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2014-07-28 02:38:02 PM
"In order to ensure that alcoholic beverages and tobacco are not sold to minors, Walmart is testing point-of-sale age checks in some locations across the country," the customer service statement read. "By testing this, we hope to discover the best methods for ensuring that products are not sold illegally to minors. In addition, to comply with federal laws, stores may ask for the ID from individuals within a group other than the person making the purchase."

F*cking ridiculous.

#1, idiots, is the Federal Government doesn't set drinking laws, states do. That's why they differ from state to state and also why the Federal Government had to blackmail all the states to raise their drinking age to 21. "Yeaaaaaaaah, we're not ordering you to raise your state's drinking age, but it would be a damn shame if anything happened to your Federal Highway Funds huh?" There is no Federal law that says you must ID everyone in a group if one person in the group is buying beer.

#2, so if a woman is shopping with her baby you're going to ask the baby for ID? Really? Seriously?

#3, easy way to bypass your cunning foolproof system: instead of taking their kids into the checkout line parents can just leave their kids (or their 1 month old baby) by the exit where they can be kidnapped, but at least they can buy their beer.

GET A BRAIN WALMART MORANS!
 
2014-07-28 02:41:57 PM
They'd do this when I was in college in Texas.  But we were 3 obvious kids with only one of us 21.  So 21 would go buy the beer and the rest of us would loiter around the magazines and meet up back at the car.
 
2014-07-28 02:47:45 PM
I'd be more outraged at myself for shopping at Wal-Mart, but I have standards, albeit very low ones.
 
2014-07-28 02:49:34 PM
People of Walmart Problems.
 
2014-07-28 02:50:12 PM

James!: They'd do this when I was in college in Texas.  But we were 3 obvious kids with only one of us 21.  So 21 would go buy the beer and the rest of us would loiter around the magazines and meet up back at the car.


That type of situation it makes some sense.  Doing with a parent shopping with his or her kid is beyond backasswards.
 
2014-07-28 02:50:52 PM
FTA: "If Walmart is so worried about underage drinking and smoking, why do they sell alcohol and tobacco to begin with?" Davis asked. "Are they going to do this with other potentially dangerous things they sell, like ammo?"

What about refusing to sell sugar-laced items to obviously obese customers?

/Obviously Walmart would go broke then.
 
2014-07-28 02:52:09 PM

Lando Lincoln: I'd be more outraged at myself for shopping at Wal-Mart, but I have standards, albeit very low ones.

 
2014-07-28 02:53:59 PM
Had something similar to this happen to my son when he was 20 and was out with some friends at Winco buying snacks for a gaming session. The two he was with were of legal drinking age & one of them was buying some Mike's Hard Lemonade because she wanted to try it. The cashier wouldn't let them buy it.
 
2014-07-28 02:56:53 PM

TuteTibiImperes: That type of situation it makes some sense.  Doing with a parent shopping with his or her kid is beyond backasswards.


Maybe the checkout clerk thought Dad was priming his 15-year-old daughter for sex after watching porn on their DVD player later that same evening?

/Bad Mike.
//Bad, bad, bad.
 
2014-07-28 03:02:47 PM

TuteTibiImperes: James!: They'd do this when I was in college in Texas.  But we were 3 obvious kids with only one of us 21.  So 21 would go buy the beer and the rest of us would loiter around the magazines and meet up back at the car.

That type of situation it makes some sense.  Doing with a parent shopping with his or her kid is beyond backasswards.


Yeah, I also believe it's still legal for parents to give their children alcohol. Or as it was commonly referred to in my house "you want a sip of my beer?".
 
2014-07-28 03:03:17 PM
Davis said he later got out his checkbook and realized he and his wife had spent $3,000 at that Supercenter so far this year.

i was on his side until here.  who pays by check at wal mart anymore?
 
2014-07-28 03:07:19 PM
I thought it was legal for a minor to drink at home with their parent?
 
2014-07-28 03:08:15 PM

Walker: "In order to ensure that alcoholic beverages and tobacco are not sold to minors, Walmart is testing point-of-sale age checks in some locations across the country," the customer service statement read. "By testing this, we hope to discover the best methods for ensuring that products are not sold illegally to minors. In addition, to comply with federal laws, stores may ask for the ID from individuals within a group other than the person making the purchase."


So to make sure alcohol is not sold to minors, they are carding people who are not making the purchase.

wait what?
 
2014-07-28 03:09:18 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was legal for a minor to drink at home with their parent?


Depends on the state. Here in VA it is.
 
2014-07-28 03:10:22 PM
Davis said he was humiliated by the woman's actions and now will be shopping elsewhere.

Then...

Davis said he later got out his checkbook and realized he and his wife had spent $3,000 at that Supercenter so far this year.

Your humiliations is misplaced.

 Checkbook?
 
2014-07-28 03:15:23 PM
That's what you get for shopping at Walmart.
 
2014-07-28 03:15:46 PM

stpauler: Davis said he later got out his checkbook and realized he and his wife had spent $3,000 at that Supercenter so far this year.

Your humiliations is misplaced.

Checkbook?


Most online banking debt cards offer downloadable files (A Checkbook) sorted by merchant. Yours might have that ability if you look for it; most will have interface with Quicken. Comes in handy at Tax time with keeping track of business expenses, travel, gas etc.
 
2014-07-28 03:15:47 PM
This actually happened with my Mother and brother once and they wouldn't sell it to her because he was with her. And he wasn't even underage at the time, but the ID he had on him was expired so they wouldn't accept it. Somehow they didn't manage to make the news over the issue. It was still pretty stupid though.
 
2014-07-28 03:19:05 PM
So now I can't leave my kid locked in a hot car, and I can't bring them inside with me to buy booze.

I'm running out of options, here.
 
2014-07-28 03:21:16 PM

optikeye: stpauler: Davis said he later got out his checkbook and realized he and his wife had spent $3,000 at that Supercenter so far this year.

Your humiliations is misplaced.

Checkbook?

Most online banking debt cards offer downloadable files (A Checkbook) sorted by merchant. Yours might have that ability if you look for it; most will have interface with Quicken. Comes in handy at Tax time with keeping track of business expenses, travel, gas etc.


Ahh. And fixed my noun/verb agreement.
 
2014-07-28 03:25:05 PM
I've seen this happen, especially when it's a group of young adults who are of drinking age, so they'll ask for everybody's ID. You learn to send in a designated buyer. It makes for less work for everybody.
 
2014-07-28 03:26:05 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Lando Lincoln: I'd be more outraged at myself for shopping at Wal-Mart, but I have standards, albeit very low ones.


There is a simple way to avoid these WalMart problems.

/will not shop there
 
2014-07-28 03:39:20 PM
This happened to me once in a liquor store in Massachusetts. We were buying a bottle of wine and my friend didn't have a valid US driver's license, because she didn't live in the US. She did, however, have a military ID, but the genius at the counter didn't know what a military ID was, so she wouldn't sell us booze.
 
2014-07-28 03:42:58 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was legal for a minor to drink at home with their parent?


yes it is legal, in almost EVERY state for a parent to serve liquor to their own kids.
it is also legal in some states to serve to other kids, with their parents permission ...

fricking liquor laws are retarded. if your crotch spawn is going to drink, they are going to find a way, and no law will stop them. There is always some adult that will buy for them in exchange ... money or sex or cop a feel or or or.
 
2014-07-28 03:46:21 PM

TheOmni: This actually happened with my Mother and brother once and they wouldn't sell it to her because he was with her. And he wasn't even underage at the time, but the ID he had on him was expired so they wouldn't accept it. Somehow they didn't manage to make the news over the issue. It was still pretty stupid though.


Expired? ROFL - that does not invalidate the VALIDITY of the birth date.
My god, people are even dumber than we thought.

Sorry, you are 95, but your license expired 25 years ago, we cant sell to you.
Seriously, I am going to stop buying from places that refuse to sell to me without an ID.
If you are too stupid to tell that I am OLD, you are not getting my business. Ever.
 
2014-07-28 03:52:28 PM

JoieD'Zen: Marcus Aurelius: Lando Lincoln: I'd be more outraged at myself for shopping at Wal-Mart, but I have standards, albeit very low ones.

There is a simple way to avoid these WalMart problems.

/will not shop there


It happens at other locations besides Walmart.
 
2014-07-28 03:54:03 PM
My wife saw this happen in an Illinois Walmart. Grandma and a 8 year old. Can't trust them.
 
2014-07-28 04:04:38 PM
The man was shopping with a teenage girl at Wal-Mart. I'm sure he needed that beer.
 
2014-07-28 04:34:41 PM
#1- If this was in Wisconsin, the kid could have been at a bar with the dad drinking, any time of the day or night. But then they'd have to live in Wisconsin.

#2- Maybe the cashier was just concerned the guy was buying Bud and Smirnoff. If so, Hero tag for the cashier.
 
2014-07-28 04:59:49 PM

Diogenes: So now I can't leave my kid locked in a hot car, and I can't bring them inside with me to buy booze.

I'm running out of options, here.


Just ask some lady if they'll watch your kid for a few minutes. Buy your booze, go out to your car and put the booze in the trunk, and then drive away.
 
2014-07-28 05:26:10 PM
Backing in my days of waiting tables, I'd get underage kids sitting at the table who were waiting for a friend. The friend, over 21, would pick up a pitcher and glasses at the bar and bring to the table with the underage friends. Boy would they pitch a fit when I'd card everyone.

But a parent? That's just stupid. I wonder, though, if the person at Walmart thought they were dating.
 
2014-07-28 05:59:33 PM
If there's anyone who needs a few beers, it's a man with a 15 year old daughter.
 
2014-07-28 05:59:34 PM
That's why I make that guy's 15-year-old daughter wait in the car while I go buy the beer.
 
2014-07-28 05:59:53 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I thought it was legal for a minor to drink at home with their parent

PERVERT?

Sorry, just how I read it the 1st time...
 
2014-07-28 05:59:54 PM
I would be too.

What else is Wal-Mart for if not redneck convenience?
 
2014-07-28 06:00:27 PM
But was she hot...?
 
2014-07-28 06:02:01 PM

Diogenes: So now I can't leave my kid locked in a hot car, and I can't bring them inside with me to buy booze.

I'm running out of options, here.


Lock them up on the bike racks outside the store. If you're going to be inside for a while, give them a bottle of water and some Doritos first.
 
2014-07-28 06:02:08 PM
I still get carded for cigarettes at Rite Aid.  I tell them I'm twice my own age.  It gives them crinkly confused face.
 
2014-07-28 06:05:57 PM

SlothB77: Walker: "In order to ensure that alcoholic beverages and tobacco are not sold to minors, Walmart is testing point-of-sale age checks in some locations across the country," the customer service statement read. "By testing this, we hope to discover the best methods for ensuring that products are not sold illegally to minors. In addition, to comply with federal laws, stores may ask for the ID from individuals within a group other than the person making the purchase."

So to make sure alcohol is not sold to minors, they are carding people who are not making the purchase.

wait what?


This isn't that uncommon.  more and more stores are switching to ID everyone policies, not because they actually care about underage drinkers but because it reduces liability for the company to just ID everyone.  If a cashier sells without ID and they get sued for it they can just point out the fact that their official policy is to ID everyone no matter what age.
 
2014-07-28 06:06:34 PM

thamike


I still get carded for cigarettes at Rite Aid. I tell them I'm twice my own age. It gives them crinkly confused face.


They're Rite Aid cashiers. You could tell them the name of their store is misspelled and give them crinkly confused face.
 
2014-07-28 06:07:13 PM
I remember going to bar a week or so before my 21st birthday, a pool hall where I had been drinking for at least 3 years prior.  I got carded.  I got kicked out. My friends all got to stay and drink, even though some of them were years younger than I was.  Seems I was the only one carded.

Was back there the next week drinking legally.

Where was I going with this...?  I don't know.  Story is almost 15 years old now, so I guess if I took it to Walmart I wouldn't be able to purchase beer.
 
2014-07-28 06:07:55 PM

thamike: I still get carded for cigarettes at Rite Aid.  I tell them I'm twice my own age.  It gives them crinkly confused face.


When I get carded I tell people I look young because I was born at such a young age.

It gets the same face.
 
2014-07-28 06:10:20 PM

James!: TuteTibiImperes: James!: They'd do this when I was in college in Texas.  But we were 3 obvious kids with only one of us 21.  So 21 would go buy the beer and the rest of us would loiter around the magazines and meet up back at the car.

That type of situation it makes some sense.  Doing with a parent shopping with his or her kid is beyond backasswards.

Yeah, I also believe it's still legal for parents to give their children alcohol. Or as it was commonly referred to in my house "you want a sip of my beer?".


That varies by state (and there's more exceptions, such as for religious purposes, medical purposes, etc.), but 29 states allow it within the home itself, and 16 other states have other exceptions (45 states total):

http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002591
 
2014-07-28 06:10:38 PM
Had this happen at Safeway 5 years ago with my 12 year old son.

fark stores that don't want my money, I'll gladly shop elsewhere.
 
2014-07-28 06:11:01 PM

SlothB77: Davis said he later got out his checkbook and realized he and his wife had spent $3,000 at that Supercenter so far this year.

i was on his side until here.  who pays by check at wal mart anymore?


i291.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-28 06:11:18 PM

TheOmni: This actually happened with my Mother and brother once and they wouldn't sell it to her because he was with her. And he wasn't even underage at the time, but the ID he had on him was expired so they wouldn't accept it. Somehow they didn't manage to make the news over the issue. It was still pretty stupid though.


That happened to me after I turned 21. My friend and I went to a liquor store to buy some beer, and after seeing that my ID had expired a week prior, the clerk refused to sell to either of us.

I do believe that most states have laws on the books that say you can purchase alcohol only with a VALID ID, but IANAL.
 
2014-07-28 06:11:29 PM

ragekage: #1- If this was in Wisconsin, the kid could have been at a bar with the dad drinking, any time of the day or night. But then they'd have to live in Wisconsin.

#2- Maybe the cashier was just concerned the guy was buying Bud and Smirnoff. If so, Hero tag for the cashier.


I thought kids(and women although that law may have changed) had to sit at a table and not at the bar?
 
2014-07-28 06:12:18 PM

kortex: But was she hot...?


She would've been if they had sold him the beer.
 
2014-07-28 06:12:35 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: thamike

I still get carded for cigarettes at Rite Aid. I tell them I'm twice my own age. It gives them crinkly confused face.


They're Rite Aid cashiers. You could tell them the name of their store is misspelled and give them crinkly confused face.


I was filling a prescription at rite aid, I was in the system so they didn't need my ID for the Oxycodone, but when I asked for some allergy meds, they had to see it.

/Pointless policies for nothing more than the appearance of caring.
 
2014-07-28 06:12:38 PM

Diogenes: So now I can't leave my kid locked in a hot car, and I can't bring them inside with me to buy booze.

I'm running out of options, here.


I guess you''ll just have to leave them chained to a bedpost in their locked bedroom
 
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