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(UPI)   With all other crimes solved in New York City, police spent the weekend collecting DNA from scene of where U.S. flags were replaced with white flags on Brooklyn Bridge. Such villainy will not stand   (upi.com) divider line 138
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2014-07-28 08:13:49 AM
Perhaps the flags were used in a rape. That way, you won't have to wait until 2020 to have it tested.
 
2014-07-28 08:24:53 AM
No shiat. You would think those flags were caked with anthrax.
 
2014-07-28 08:28:19 AM
Next time it might not be a flag on a bridge. Next time they might replace your grandma with a bomb. Then how will you feel when grandma explodes when you hug her?
 
2014-07-28 08:29:25 AM
Demote the police officer in charge of that boondoggle and send all the investigators out immediately to start working on violent crimes.
 
2014-07-28 08:34:09 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-28 08:43:24 AM
False flag operation.
 
2014-07-28 08:56:55 AM

PreMortem: No shiat. You would think those flags were caked with anthrax.


www.yellmagazine.com
 
2014-07-28 09:12:14 AM
It's a bunch of bologna...They don't stand for bologna, you know.
 
2014-07-28 09:27:33 AM
A successful, clandestine operation that seems to have been synchronized. On a very heavily traveled artery into one of the most populous cities in the world.

Seem to me that there might be reason for some concern.

/adjusts tinfoil tricorn
 
2014-07-28 09:55:50 AM

UberDave: It's a bunch of bologna...They don't stand for bologna, you know.


Well the have a suspect in mind.  Heard back from a former Army buddy who is on the NYPD.  I've encrypted the person's name for, you know, security reasons:

CASMO RREYA
 
2014-07-28 09:57:17 AM

mutterfark: A successful, clandestine operation that seems to have been synchronized. On a very heavily traveled artery into one of the most populous cities in the world.

Seem to me that there might be reason for some concern rejoicing.


FTFY.
 
2014-07-28 10:06:36 AM

itsdan: Next time it might not be a flag on a bridge. Next time they might replace your grandma with a bomb. Then how will you feel when grandma explodes when you hug her?


I'm pretty sure you won't feel much of anything at that point.
 
2014-07-28 10:14:04 AM
America takes bridge security seriously.  Until they fall down due to lack of maintenance, of course.
 
2014-07-28 10:33:50 AM
How the hell do you DNA test a bridge?
 
2014-07-28 10:34:08 AM
Well the flags were already stopped, so it was only natural to frisk them.
 
2014-07-28 10:34:55 AM

itsdan: Next time it might not be a flag on a bridge. Next time they might replace your grandma with a bomb. Then how will you feel when grandma explodes when you hug her?


My feelings would be all over the place.
 
2014-07-28 10:35:33 AM
Chris Christie farking with NY traffic again?
 
2014-07-28 10:35:56 AM
The highest taxes in the country and some of the shiattiest services and schools but they have plenty of money for this, ny = embarrassment.
 
2014-07-28 10:36:52 AM

corronchilejano: itsdan: Next time it might not be a flag on a bridge. Next time they might replace your grandma with a bomb. Then how will you feel when grandma explodes when you hug her?

My feelings would be all over the place.


So would Grandma.
 
2014-07-28 10:38:06 AM

Marcus Aurelius: America takes bridge security seriously.  Until they fall down due to lack of maintenance, of course.


Wouldnt suprise me if they spent more on security than maintenance.

Whoever did it just made whoever guards the bridge (the police)  look like a bunch of horses asses, so of course it is a serious crime.
 
2014-07-28 10:38:14 AM
Skeet Skeet Skeet??
 
2014-07-28 10:40:03 AM
Did the check the French delegation to the UN yet?

/le duh!
 
2014-07-28 10:41:28 AM
Can you imagine the horror this incident has imparted on the citizens of New York? How could they sleep at night knowing that as they slumber, THEIR flag could be the next one bleached.
 
2014-07-28 10:42:12 AM

Headso: The highest taxes in the country and some of the shiattiest services and schools but they have plenty of money for this, ny = embarrassment.


Uhhh, NYC has pretty much the most thorough policing anywhere, which is why they have one of the lowest per-capita crime rates in America. You can argue that they're TOO thorough when it comes to young black and Hispanic men, but you get what you pay for with New York cops.
 
2014-07-28 10:43:30 AM

itsdan: Next time it might not be a flag on a bridge. Next time they might replace your grandma with a bomb. Then how will you feel when grandma explodes when you hug her?


warm and moist.
 
2014-07-28 10:44:31 AM

mutterfark: A successful, clandestine operation that seems to have been synchronized. On a very heavily traveled artery into one of the most populous cities in the world.

Seem to me that there might be reason for some concern.

/adjusts tinfoil tricorn


Right. After all the money spent on security after 9-11, all the cops dressed up in their killer-bot body armor, the attack helicopters, the armored vehicles, the drones and cameras covering every square inch, a couple of skate board dudes managed to climb to the top of the Brooklyn Bridge and no body noticed them.   Embarrassing, and that's the worst thing you can do to cop's little ego.
 
2014-07-28 10:45:08 AM

LazyMedia: Uhhh, NYC has pretty much the most thorough policing anywhere, which is why they have one of the lowest per-capita crime rates in America. You can argue that they're TOO thorough when it comes to young black and Hispanic men, but you get what you pay for with New York cops.


I have long wanted to shift "stop and frisk" stops to young affluent nightclubbers for a few weekends just to see how many millions of dollars in Estacy are siezed.
 
2014-07-28 10:47:10 AM
Right. This is what I've been thinking every time I see an article saying how the cops don't know who did this. Well, so what? If this was the biggest problem we had to deal with as a society, we'd be ecstatic.
 
2014-07-28 10:47:49 AM
As anyone else getting tired of the 'With all other crime solved...' cliche?  Is anyone really of the opinion that all crime should be worked in a  linear queue, with all crimes besides the front of the queue being ignored?

This headline is basically saying 'I am going to aqct smug and superior and criticize police for doing something reasonable and logical by implying that they should act in an illogical manner?'
 
2014-07-28 10:51:14 AM

Headso: The highest taxes in the country and some of the shiattiest services and schools but they have plenty of money for this, ny = embarrassment.


They also have some of the greatest public schools in the country, also one of the lowest crime rates of any big city in the United States. I'm curious what "services" you think are the "shiattiest".

I'm sure they are doing this from a security standpoint, and that some of the funding would be coming from Homeland Security.
 
2014-07-28 10:51:59 AM
Looks like all this expensive high tech security is just a scam.
 
2014-07-28 10:53:55 AM

Deep Contact: Looks like all this expensive high tech security is just a scam.


Technology is just a tool.  A computer in the hands of a chimp is not going to help the chimp find a cure for cancer.  Most cops are really only a step or two above chimp.
 
2014-07-28 10:55:21 AM
The crime here is what...trespassing? Or is it more of a damaged ego because someone's stunt highlights a vulnerability in the security of a bridge? Address the security issue, if it's even fixable and move on.
 
2014-07-28 10:56:55 AM

squidloe: The crime here is what...trespassing? Or is it more of a damaged ego because someone's stunt highlights a vulnerability in the security of a bridge? Address the security issue, if it's even fixable and move on.


They should offer the skate dudes a reward in exchange for telling them how it was accomplished.
 
2014-07-28 10:57:45 AM

squidloe: The crime here is what...trespassing? Or is it more of a damaged ego because someone's stunt highlights a vulnerability in the security of a bridge? Address the security issue, if it's even fixable and move on.



Look, if people kill each other, that's once thing. Embarrass police and politicians?
www.hadafewbeers.com
 
2014-07-28 10:57:46 AM

myrrh: Right. This is what I've been thinking every time I see an article saying how the cops don't know who did this. Well, so what? If this was the biggest problem we had to deal with as a society, we'd be ecstatic.


Hi, this is common sense speaking. It turns out security on a bridge that carries hundreds of thousands of people a day is kind of important.
 
2014-07-28 11:00:26 AM
$10 this is related somehow to those guys busted for flying their drone near the GW bridge.
 
2014-07-28 11:01:05 AM

Headso: The highest taxes in the country and some of the shiattiest services and schools but they have plenty of money for this, ny = embarrassment.


Exactly how much money do you think they spent extra?  They were already up there to remove the flags, they picked up the other stuff the guys left behind and noticed DNA evidence (I would guess blood).  Is it really that big a deal to you that they ran it through a lab and checked it against their database?  If they have evidence sitting there in front of them, are you honestly thinking they should have said 'Well, our schools aren't great, and we don't have a perfect infrastructure, so let's just not inestigate this DNA evidence, even though it would be asy and cheap to do, and doesn't really affect those other budgets anyways.'

You find this logical?
 
2014-07-28 11:02:26 AM

moothemagiccow: Hi, this is common sense speaking. It turns out security on a bridge that carries hundreds of thousands of people a day is kind of important.


Hi, Common Sense. I've wanted to have a discussion with you for a while now, but you've been elusive.

If security on a bridge, especially post-9/11, is so important, then why was this "crime" even possible?
 
2014-07-28 11:03:02 AM

moothemagiccow: myrrh: Right. This is what I've been thinking every time I see an article saying how the cops don't know who did this. Well, so what? If this was the biggest problem we had to deal with as a society, we'd be ecstatic.

Hi, this is common sense speaking. It turns out security on a bridge that carries hundreds of thousands of people a day is kind of important.


So important that some idiots can bypass what ever security measures are in place, climb to the top of the Brooklyn Bridge, remove large existing flags and replace with large bleached flags. Has anyone been fired or reprimanded yet? What's the fallout on the security side of things rather than law enforcement chasing their tail looking for the criminal masterminds?
 
2014-07-28 11:05:23 AM

PreMortem: No shiat. You would think those flags were caked with anthrax.


doglover: Demote the police officer in charge of that boondoggle and send all the investigators out immediately to start working on violent crimes.


squidloe: The crime here is what...trespassing? Or is it more of a damaged ego because someone's stunt highlights a vulnerability in the security of a bridge?


"collecting DNA from scene" entails swabbing something with the equivalent of a Q-tip using good scientific technique.

Testing that DNA is a series of extremely similar chemical reactions that in total costs a crime lab about $20 in materials and takes 3 hours or so.

Then they ran the results through a computer.

So I'm with you guys, this is the largest overreach in police effort and waste since, well ever.
 
2014-07-28 11:06:03 AM

Deep Contact: Looks like all this expensive high tech security is just a scam.


I really wouldn't put it past that the security company that installs and maintains the systems at the bridge were the ones that executed this.  They will certainly look to be beefing up the system here with this incident which means more business for the integrator.
 
2014-07-28 11:06:08 AM
Um, many PD departments regularly use DNA evidence for plain residential burglaries these days. And the article says a single swab was taken. It probably took 5 minutes by a bored technician. I'm really not getting the outrage.
 
2014-07-28 11:08:50 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Um, many PD departments regularly use DNA evidence for plain residential burglaries these days. And the article says a single swab was taken. It probably took 5 minutes by a bored technician. I'm really not getting the outrage.


And you probably get your money from automated ATM machines.
 
2014-07-28 11:12:10 AM

MycroftHolmes: Headso: The highest taxes in the country and some of the shiattiest services and schools but they have plenty of money for this, ny = embarrassment.

Exactly how much money do you think they spent extra?  They were already up there to remove the flags, they picked up the other stuff the guys left behind and noticed DNA evidence (I would guess blood).  Is it really that big a deal to you that they ran it through a lab and checked it against their database?  If they have evidence sitting there in front of them, are you honestly thinking they should have said 'Well, our schools aren't great, and we don't have a perfect infrastructure, so let's just not inestigate this DNA evidence, even though it would be asy and cheap to do, and doesn't really affect those other budgets anyways.'

You find this logical?


no it's perfectly logical that a state has seemingly unlimited amounts of money for toys and games and pensions for the police and has crumbling infrastructure and shiatty schools. Which wouldn't even be that bad if they didn't have a ridiculous level of regressive taxation and fees and fines. If they want to run this state like a shiathole redstate then lower the taxes.
 
2014-07-28 11:14:22 AM

fireclown: LazyMedia: Uhhh, NYC has pretty much the most thorough policing anywhere, which is why they have one of the lowest per-capita crime rates in America. You can argue that they're TOO thorough when it comes to young black and Hispanic men, but you get what you pay for with New York cops.

I have long wanted to shift "stop and frisk" stops to young affluent nightclubbers for a few weekends just to see how many millions of dollars in Estacy are siezed.


I always think "Oh no, here come some young affluent nightclubbers.  I hope they don't have millions of dollars of Estacy on them."
 
2014-07-28 11:14:58 AM

moothemagiccow: myrrh: Right. This is what I've been thinking every time I see an article saying how the cops don't know who did this. Well, so what? If this was the biggest problem we had to deal with as a society, we'd be ecstatic.

Hi, this is common sense speaking. It turns out security on a bridge that carries hundreds of thousands of people a day is kind of important.


Hi, this is uncommon sense.  It turns out that there is a certain amount of irreducible amount of risk that comes with living in a reasonably free society.  The more you try to reduce that risk, the less free your society winds up being.
 
2014-07-28 11:22:39 AM

squidloe: The crime here is what...trespassing? Or is it more of a damaged ego because someone's stunt highlights a vulnerability in the security of a bridge? Address the security issue, if it's even fixable and move on.



It's pissing off the police force of the most paranoid and hypersecure American city.
 
2014-07-28 11:22:43 AM
How about investigating (and firing) whoever was supposed to be in charge of security?
 
2014-07-28 11:26:31 AM

MycroftHolmes: As anyone else getting tired of the 'With all other crime solved...' cliche?  Is anyone really of the opinion that all crime should be worked in a  linear queue, with all crimes besides the front of the queue being ignored?

This headline is basically saying 'I am going to aqct smug and superior and criticize police for doing something reasonable and logical by implying that they should act in an illogical manner?'


In this case, it's especially unwarranted.  The fact that someone could pull this off, in one of the most eavily trafficked and populated areas in the entire country is a valid concern.

It might just be flags.  But consider that it may just be a test run for something that is not so friggin mundane.  Identifying the shortcomings in how this happened completely undetected, and fixing those security holes, is actually a pretty big deal.
 
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