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(Huffington Post)   U.S./Israeli relations are so bad (HOW BAD ARE THEY?) U.S./Israeli relations are so bad, Netanyahu risks becoming Obama's Jewish (blank)   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 227
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2014-07-28 08:11:55 AM  
We're obviously not sending them enough money.
 
2014-07-28 08:38:10 AM  
Israel gets upset when we stop sucking their cock.
 
2014-07-28 09:09:40 AM  
Exactly why are we sending them money anyway?  Aren't they self-sufficient?
 
2014-07-28 09:12:18 AM  
Another day, another thread about this shiat.
 
2014-07-28 09:39:28 AM  
....accountant?  Delicatessen guy?  Mohel?  Help me out, submitter; I can't think of all the stereotypes on my own...
 
2014-07-28 09:40:36 AM  
Benghazi?
 
2014-07-28 09:44:48 AM  
Israel pretty much only has one friend in the world.  It'd be in their best interest to quit biatching about their only friend.
 
2014-07-28 09:45:04 AM  
It's up to the vassal state to make nice.
 
2014-07-28 09:45:49 AM  
mohel.
 
2014-07-28 09:46:13 AM  
Bengh..

Shakin_Haitian: Benghazi?


I see this one's taken.
 
2014-07-28 09:50:15 AM  
 Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it
 
2014-07-28 09:50:30 AM  
Birf certifcate?
 
2014-07-28 09:50:45 AM  
Headline: "US/Israel Relations going Sour"
Article: "US tells Israel to hold on a sec while we make sure their enemies lose all their weapons and ability to harass Israeli civilians. You know, the whole reason Israel started shooting at them in the first place."

Yep, no bias in that article. None at all. Not that it'd matter, if we disarm Hamas, they'll only start arming again just as quickly as before.
 
2014-07-28 09:51:39 AM  
You know the difference between a jew and a pizza?
 
2014-07-28 09:51:53 AM  
An Israeli official said the army hoped the widespread desolation would persuade Gazans to put pressure on Hamas to stop the fighting for fear of yet more devastation.

Because that's worked so well up to now?

Usually Israel would have stopped "mowing the grass" by now but with the situations in Ukraine, Syria, Iraq and Libya the world's attention is too divided to really care.

Both Democrats and Republicans support Israel in the UN with the permanent security council veto but because the Democrats don't offer them carte blanche (mostly because Democrats as a rule don't base foreign policy in Israel on biblical prophecies) US-Israeli relationships under Democratic presidents are always considered "bad".
 
2014-07-28 09:52:00 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: It's up to the vassal state to make nice.


I know, right?  The US really needs to step up their ass-kissing.
 
2014-07-28 09:54:50 AM  
How about we move all the Palestinians to someplace in the US... say Kansas, and tell Israel they're on their own from now on?
 
2014-07-28 09:55:26 AM  

karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it


LOL wut
 
2014-07-28 09:55:54 AM  

nekom: Exactly why are we sending them money anyway?  Aren't they self-sufficient?


Of course.  But why should they pay for it if they can sucker someone else into doing it.

Are Israeli corporations as hellbent on setting up shop in tax haven countries as "American" ones are?  Or do they actually feel they should pay something toward defending their country?
/really want to know
 
2014-07-28 09:56:06 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: How about we move all the Palestinians to someplace in the US... say Kansas, and tell Israel they're on their own from now on?


If only that would work.  Problem is both sides want THAT land, not land elsewhere.  Too bad they didn't learn from the Mormons.  You guys want that useless land by that salt lake where nothing can grow?  Alright, it's all yours.
 
2014-07-28 09:56:30 AM  

karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it


i want some of your drugs.
 
2014-07-28 09:57:02 AM  
Israel has some of the most ham-fisted propaganda I've seen in a long time...

Israel's Irish embassy deletes picture of Molly Malone in niqab

"Last Frontier of the Free World"? Give me a farking break...
 
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2014-07-28 09:58:50 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Benghazi?


Damnit. Came here to say that.

*shakes fist*
 
2014-07-28 09:59:07 AM  
Khobar Towers

www.defense.gov

Beirut barracks

www.whale.to

USS Liberty

www.ussliberty.org

241 American military dead + 20 American military dead + 34 American military dead

Let's let plucky little Israel pick its own fight and keep our military out of the ME. There's over a thousand dead in Gaza, killed by the IDF. They apparently no longer  need our help, financially or militarily. If Israel wants to be the big swinging dick then they can use their own dick not ours.

And while you're never forgetting--unless when you're putting civilians in ghettos and robbing them of their lands and killing them by the thousands--just remember...

This

www.catholic.com

Paid for this

www.kingsacademy.com

/Iran is five times the size of Iraq. Maybe that's why Israel has been pushing us to invade Iran. And we are stupid enough--and some of us are greedy enough--to do it.
 
2014-07-28 09:59:08 AM  

karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it


maybe at first, yes. But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap.

I get that they've been harassed and beaten and sent to camps in the past, but having them turn around and treat others in a similar fashion leaves a bad taste in our mouths.
 
2014-07-28 09:59:11 AM  
Remember Netanyahu is a personal friend of Mitt Romney.  I think they may have worked together at one point.  The Chicaga way.
 
2014-07-28 09:59:21 AM  
Are hummus prices going to go up? Because that is all that matters.
 
2014-07-28 09:59:44 AM  

karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience a real bad case of hemorrhoids - and the world hates them for it


FIFY
 
2014-07-28 10:00:25 AM  

karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it


Just because something bad happens to you, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.
 
2014-07-28 10:00:59 AM  
Not waiting for the Fannie Flagg answer...because I know it's going to suck.
 
2014-07-28 10:01:47 AM  

nekom: If only that would work. Problem is both sides want THAT land, not land elsewhere. Too bad they didn't learn from the Mormons. You guys want that useless land by that salt lake where nothing can grow? Alright, it's all yours.


Utah actually used to be much much much larger, and had tried to declare independence at one point, the Feds weren't gonna have none of that shiat and systematically started breaking bits of it one by one. That's how we have those perfectly cut up shapes for states in the west.

It's really a fascinating, not often talked about part of our history.
 
2014-07-28 10:02:51 AM  
Muslin?
 
2014-07-28 10:03:15 AM  

vharshyde: Headline: "US/Israel Relations going Sour"
Article: "US tells Israel to hold on a sec while we make sure their enemies lose all their weapons and ability to harass Israeli civilians. You know, the whole reason Israel started shooting at them in the first place."

Yep, no bias in that article. None at all. Not that it'd matter, if we disarm Hamas, they'll only start arming again just as quickly as before.


Sounds like tunnel vision.
 
2014-07-28 10:08:59 AM  

Cataholic: Not waiting for the Fannie Flagg answer...because I know it's going to suck.


She's always better than Brett.

/butcher is the definitive answer.
 
2014-07-28 10:11:09 AM  

somedude210: karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it

maybe at first, yes. But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap.

I get that they've been harassed and beaten and sent to camps in the past, but having them turn around and treat others in a similar fashion leaves a bad taste in our mouths.


And Hamas?  They get a free pass?
 
2014-07-28 10:12:26 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it

Just because something bad happens to you, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.



How are they being an 'asshole'?
 
2014-07-28 10:16:56 AM  

karnal: somedude210: karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it

maybe at first, yes. But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap.

I get that they've been harassed and beaten and sent to camps in the past, but having them turn around and treat others in a similar fashion leaves a bad taste in our mouths.

And Hamas?  They get a free pass?


they don't, but if you corner a dog and he can't escape or leave, he will lash out. Hamas is not innocent at all, but just because one criticizes Israel, doesn't mean they aren't also critical of Hamas.

just remember that the Gazan people are not the same as Hamas, Hamas may have members from Gaza, but one is not equal to the other. Israel is oftentimes blowing the crap out of Gazans, not strictly Hamas members. Or in some cases, UN humanitarian workers
 
2014-07-28 10:19:10 AM  

karnal: Tyrone Slothrop: karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it

Just because something bad happens to you, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.


How are they being an 'asshole'?


Uh...bombing children's hospitals comes to mind...
 
2014-07-28 10:21:40 AM  

Mrs.Sharpier: Uh...bombing children's hospitals comes to mind...


Collateral damage.There was no way of knowing there would be children in there.
 
2014-07-28 10:23:00 AM  

somedude210: just remember that the Gazan people are not the same as Hamas, Hamas may have members from Gaza, but one is not equal to the other. Israel is oftentimes blowing the crap out of Gazans, not strictly Hamas members. Or in some cases, UN humanitarian workers


Gazans voted for Hamas in the Palestinian elections. But that's besides the point.

Why do people think so many Palestinian civilians are dying? Do people really think Israel wants to kill them?

No. Hamas stores weapons in homes, schools, UN buildings, and hospitals and fires them from those locations. When Israel tries to destroy the weapons and launch facilities, those civilians are hurt. It's a cynical way to use human shields -- Hamas can point to the deaths and then get the world to condemn Israel. It's 100% the fault of Hamas.
 
2014-07-28 10:24:08 AM  

somedude210: But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap


The founders of modern day Israel were all terrorists and agitators.  They've been treating the Palestinians like crap since day 1.
 
2014-07-28 10:25:07 AM  

somedude210: Or in some cases, UN humanitarian workers


Or American citizens.

Time to cut these scumbags loose.
 
2014-07-28 10:29:28 AM  

bostonguy: somedude210: just remember that the Gazan people are not the same as Hamas, Hamas may have members from Gaza, but one is not equal to the other. Israel is oftentimes blowing the crap out of Gazans, not strictly Hamas members. Or in some cases, UN humanitarian workers

Gazans voted for Hamas in the Palestinian elections. But that's besides the point.

Why do people think so many Palestinian civilians are dying? Do people really think Israel wants to kill them?

No. Hamas stores weapons in homes, schools, UN buildings, and hospitals and fires them from those locations. When Israel tries to destroy the weapons and launch facilities, those civilians are hurt. It's a cynical way to use human shields -- Hamas can point to the deaths and then get the world to condemn Israel. It's 100% the fault of Hamas.


So much for responsibility for one's own actions.  Hamas does not force Israel to respond the way they have - that's all on Israel.  If Israel wanted to avoid slaughtering innocent Gazans they could.
 
2014-07-28 10:30:52 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: somedude210: But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap

The founders of modern day Israel were all terrorists and agitators.  They've been treating the Palestinians like crap since day 1.


Now, now. Just because Menachem Begin and his Irgun murdered 91 people in the King David Hotel, then blamed the local British Chief Secretary Shaw for the deaths, then sent a letter bomb to Shaw's new offices in Trinidad and Tobago doesn't make Begin a terrorist.

After all, Israel elected him Prime Minister. So he couldn't be a terrorist and a murderer.

Plus Israel hands out ribbons to former members of the Irgun. Israel wouldn't give a ribbon to a terrorist and murderer.
 
2014-07-28 10:32:32 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: So much for responsibility for one's own actions.  Hamas does not force Israel to respond the way they have - that's all on Israel.  If Israel wanted to avoid slaughtering innocent Gazans they could.


OK, so if you were Israel and facing thousands of rockets being fired at your citizens like me in Tel Aviv, how would you respond. Answer this directly and precisely -- what exactly would you do?

And there's no way to avoid killing Gazan civilians when they are inside the same building that is storing weapons and from which they are being fired.
 
2014-07-28 10:32:41 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Marcus Aurelius: somedude210: But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap

The founders of modern day Israel were all terrorists and agitators.  They've been treating the Palestinians like crap since day 1.

Now, now. Just because Menachem Begin and his Irgun murdered 91 people in the King David Hotel, then blamed the local British Chief Secretary Shaw for the deaths, then sent a letter bomb to Shaw's new offices in Trinidad and Tobago doesn't make Begin a terrorist.

After all, Israel elected him Prime Minister. So he couldn't be a terrorist and a murderer.

Plus Israel hands out ribbons to former members of the Irgun. Israel wouldn't give a ribbon to a terrorist and murderer.


You have a very valid point there.  On top of that, there is no way the US government would hand out $3 billion a year in taxpayer money to a terrorist state.  Clearly, Israel is pure as the driven snow.
 
2014-07-28 10:33:18 AM  

bostonguy: Gazans voted for Hamas in the Palestinian elections. But that's besides the point.


Gazans voted for Republicans in most House races, that doesn't mean we all want to see Obama impeached.

bostonguy: Why do people think so many Palestinian civilians are dying? Do people really think Israel wants to kill them?


Well, see, that's the rub. Is it that Palestinians are innocent victims and in the wrong place at the wrong time or is it that Israel is just careless in their hunt for the Hamasian White Whale?

bostonguy: No. Hamas stores weapons in homes, schools, UN buildings, and hospitals and fires them from those locations. When Israel tries to destroy the weapons and launch facilities, those civilians are hurt. It's a cynical way to use human shields -- Hamas can point to the deaths and then get the world to condemn Israel. It's 100% the fault of Hamas.


You really think that Hamas is firing from UN humanitarian buildings while the UN occupies them? Really?
Or hospitals? That main Gazan hospital that took a hit last week? Israel stated that "there was rocket fire in the area of the hospital" and instead, the hospital gets hit.

So are the Israelis just terrible shots or are they doing this deliberately?
 
2014-07-28 10:35:00 AM  

bostonguy: OK, so if you were Israel and facing thousands of rockets being fired at your citizens like me in Tel Aviv, how would you respond


My very first action would be to ask myself, self, why are the Gazans firing rockets at me?  Could it have something to do with the 7 year siege that Gaza is still suffering through, a collective punishment on all of Gaza for voting Hamas?

That's what I would do first.
 
2014-07-28 10:35:30 AM  

somedude210: karnal: somedude210: karnal: Israel gave the world a conscience - and the world hates them for it

maybe at first, yes. But then they started treating the Palestinians like crap.

I get that they've been harassed and beaten and sent to camps in the past, but having them turn around and treat others in a similar fashion leaves a bad taste in our mouths.

And Hamas?  They get a free pass?

they don't, but if you corner a dog and he can't escape or leave, he will lash out. Hamas is not innocent at all, but just because one criticizes Israel, doesn't mean they aren't also critical of Hamas.

just remember that the Gazan people are not the same as Hamas, Hamas may have members from Gaza, but one is not equal to the other. Israel is oftentimes blowing the crap out of Gazans, not strictly Hamas members. Or in some cases, UN humanitarian workers


And remember that the Israel people are not the same as the Israel government.....plus, if it wasn't for the Iron Dome there would be a lot more casualties on the Israel's side.  It's not for lack of trying....
 
2014-07-28 10:36:32 AM  
somedude210:

bostonguy: No. Hamas stores weapons in homes, schools, UN buildings, and hospitals and fires them from those locations. When Israel tries to destroy the weapons and launch facilities, those civilians are hurt. It's a cynical way to use human shields -- Hamas can point to the deaths and then get the world to condemn Israel. It's 100% the fault of Hamas.

You really think that Hamas is firing from UN humanitarian buildings while the UN occupies them? Really?
Or hospitals? That main Gazan hospital that took a hit last week? Israel stated that "there was rocket fire in the area of the hospital" and instead, the hospital gets hit.

So are the Israelis just terrible shots or are they doing this deliberately?


And I'm pretty certain if Hamas built military bases in Gaza to store their weapons in, the Israelis would have no problems with Hama at all. Oh sure, maybe Israel would use Willy Pete rounds to illuminate the bases so civilian Gazans wouldn't stray into Hamas' military but that's just Israel playing nice.
 
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