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2014-07-28 07:53:08 AM  
I have a 286 laptop that I installed Minix on about 17 years ago, and it doesn't get hooked up to the intarwebs.  I'm pretty sure that one isn't spying on me.
 
2014-07-28 07:53:52 AM  
Say, 90% sure.
 
2014-07-28 08:16:32 AM  
I'm eyeing my Atari 800 suspiciously, but I'm probably okay there.

Sent from my ColecoVision
 
2014-07-28 09:00:10 AM  
I'm pretty sure our AS/400 emulating a System/36 isn't spying on us.
 
2014-07-28 10:47:19 AM  
Personal data including text messages, contact lists and photos can be extracted from iPhones through previously unpublicized techniques by Apple Inc employees, the company acknowledged this week.

That seems seedy, I knew Apple was rotten to the core.  This just proves that they're an east, west, south and northern spy!

Etc, etc.

---

Anyone who didn't already suspect this?
 
2014-07-28 10:57:30 AM  

Radak: I'm eyeing my Atari 800 suspiciously, but I'm probably okay there.

Sent from my ColecoVision


My TRS 80 Radio Shack Computer.
 
2014-07-28 11:02:53 AM  
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

A cell phone is nothing but 21st century shackle. You have no idea how much computing power is packed into one of those devices. You are all slaves.
 
2014-07-28 11:03:04 AM  
What goes on between me and my slide rule is strictly confidential. I trust it implicitly.
 
2014-07-28 11:03:31 AM  
I just snapped a pic of my flaccid junk on my iphone5, so the joke is on those dirty bastards.
 
2014-07-28 11:03:57 AM  

dittybopper: I have a 286 laptop that I installed Minix on about 17 years ago, and it doesn't get hooked up to the intarwebs.  I'm pretty sure that one isn't spying on me.


That's exactly what it wants you to think.
 
2014-07-28 11:05:47 AM  
I hope that if they ever access my camera while I am surf pooping, they at least give me an audible ding, so I look my best.
 
2014-07-28 11:13:10 AM  
Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.
 
2014-07-28 11:14:38 AM  
I don't buy anything Apple makes. I can't afford an extra vowel.
 
2014-07-28 11:17:08 AM  
Conclusion: Apple users sit on their fat asses as much as Windows users...

Shocking!
 
2014-07-28 11:17:42 AM  
Just assume you're being watched already and act accordingly.
 
2014-07-28 11:17:55 AM  
I'm not going to go all conspiracy theorist on everyone here - but, we are all being snooped, pretty much constantly.

My wife and I have had this conversation.  Normally relating to how obviously ads on Facebook (or whatever) seem to match what has been discussed in private message, emails, or even phone conversations.  This, without ever actually saying anything about it on Facebook itself.
But this is what makes it worse...  It's not just obvious digital communication.  It's personal voice conversations when no digital device is even apparently active.

This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.
 
2014-07-28 11:19:36 AM  

JackieRabbit: Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.


How about the Patent they filed for a system that would track your ever movement and even the tone and inflection of your voices to determine if it's REALLY you using your phone?
 
2014-07-28 11:19:40 AM  

durbnpoisn: This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.


I'm going to start using the word "Fleshlight" in my daily vocabulary and see what happens.

Will report back.
 
2014-07-28 11:21:39 AM  
JackieRabbit

Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.

Except they are able to collect personal data, not just randomized data like the article says.

FTFA: Personal data including text messages, contact lists and photos can be extracted from iPhones
 
2014-07-28 11:24:29 AM  
Legislatively legal does not make it correct, just convenient.  How many users actually read and understand the legalese in the software/users info that you allow the manufacturer complete access to you info/files/pictures without charge and release  the company  form any lawsuits by saying yes when you use their product.

  Look at cloud storage- you pay to let your files be stored offsite and then who knows the security of your data?  Or if the cloud storage people sell access  to others.
 
2014-07-28 11:26:35 AM  
This article brought to you by Android.
 
2014-07-28 11:27:55 AM  
i299.photobucket.com

durbnpoisn: It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.


That's one of the many reasons I don't have one of the newer iphones. My phone company keeps wanting to give me a free, newer phone. They're very insistent.
 
2014-07-28 11:27:59 AM  
"A user must have unlocked their device and agreed to trust another computer before that computer is able to access this limited diagnostic data."

why is this news?
 
2014-07-28 11:27:59 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: This article brought to you by Android.


Haha...  I'm a huge fan of Android.  But Google is probably the most insane with their tracking.
 
2014-07-28 11:28:49 AM  
This is starting to get creepy. I'm on my couch and across the room are no less then 7 devises that seem to be watching me. My phone is in my bag, next to me. And I think my tablet just winked at me!
 
2014-07-28 11:29:31 AM  

durbnpoisn: I'm not going to go all conspiracy theorist on everyone here - but, we are all being snooped, pretty much constantly.

My wife and I have had this conversation.  Normally relating to how obviously ads on Facebook (or whatever) seem to match what has been discussed in private message, emails, or even phone conversations.  This, without ever actually saying anything about it on Facebook itself.
But this is what makes it worse...  It's not just obvious digital communication.  It's personal voice conversations when no digital device is even apparently active.

This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.


My wife bought asparagus the other day. We were discussing how to cook it. We haven't made it a couple years. I typed "as" in google and the first thing that popped up was "asparagus recipe". Sh*t's weird for sure.
 
2014-07-28 11:31:05 AM  
That is what is so great about Open Source and Linux.  no company owns it. the Community owns it and since the source code is open, anyone who cares to look can read the code, so no backdoors can be hidden. someone would eventually find them if they were.

Good luck, boys, with your Big Business buddies and their software.  i'm sure you can trust them. i'm pretty sure......
 
2014-07-28 11:32:33 AM  

dittybopper: I have a 286 laptop that I installed Minix on about 17 years ago, and it doesn't get hooked up to the intarwebs.  I'm pretty sure that one isn't spying on me.



you're better off with Linux Mint 17 and the Mate desktop.  fast as hell and no Big Business crooks inside.
 
2014-07-28 11:33:11 AM  

JackieRabbit: Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.


And the first Apple apologist enters the ring!

First he said "Security industry analyst Rich Mogull said Zdziarski's work was overhyped but technically accurate. "

Then the guy said " "They are collecting more than they should be, and the only way to get it is to compromise security," said Mogull, chief executive officer of Securosis. "

So he said he thought it was over hyped but technically accurate.   That is like  saying "well while black is the absence of all color, we are still seeing black as a color".

The same "Security Expert" who has made a career of writing Apple positive articles for Macworld and running an Apple-centric newsletter,blog for 24 years...   No bias there.
 
2014-07-28 11:34:25 AM  

Clash City Farker: WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

A cell phone is nothing but 21st century shackle. You have no idea how much computing power is packed into one of those devices. You are all slaves.



what if you don't have a cell phone??   just sayin'.
 
2014-07-28 11:34:38 AM  

powhound: I just snapped a pic of my flaccid junk on my iphone5, so the joke is on those dirty bastards.


I did that and for some odd reason started receiving a lot more "Enlarge Your Penis" emails than usual.
 
2014-07-28 11:34:48 AM  

Godscrack: [i299.photobucket.com image 621x632]

durbnpoisn: It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.

That's one of the many reasons I don't have one of the newer iphones. My phone company keeps wanting to give me a free, newer phone. They're very insistent.


Good I hope they do listen. I sing in my car and I have a terrible voice!I hope I make Their ears bleed!
 
2014-07-28 11:35:30 AM  

powhound: I just snapped a pic of my flaccid junk on my iphone5, so the joke is on those dirty bastards.



just don't show them your brown button. might turn them on and they'll come looking for you.
 
2014-07-28 11:36:03 AM  
Dear jesus.  That pieces was nothing but mays coulds and possiblies.

I need to get in the business of writing articles like this.  Just pull something from my ass and use mays and coulds to scare the shiat out of people.
 
2014-07-28 11:37:33 AM  

durbnpoisn: I'm not going to go all conspiracy theorist on everyone here - but, we are all being snooped, pretty much constantly.

My wife and I have had this conversation.  Normally relating to how obviously ads on Facebook (or whatever) seem to match what has been discussed in private message, emails, or even phone conversations.  This, without ever actually saying anything about it on Facebook itself.
But this is what makes it worse...  It's not just obvious digital communication.  It's personal voice conversations when no digital device is even apparently active.

This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.


Check out "Baader Meinhoff Phenomenon"
 
2014-07-28 11:38:08 AM  

Fluid: Just assume you're being watched already and act accordingly.



as it should be in the Land of the Brave and the Home of the Free.   the only ones Free in 'murica are those who can afford to be Free.  the rest of you shut up and get back to work so WE can stay Free!  hey, someone has to live off the labor of others (stocks). might as well be us.
 
2014-07-28 11:38:52 AM  

Linux_Yes: Clash City Farker: WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

A cell phone is nothing but 21st century shackle. You have no idea how much computing power is packed into one of those devices. You are all slaves.


what if you don't have a cell phone??   just sayin'.


I don't have one.
 
2014-07-28 11:39:55 AM  

durbnpoisn: I'm not going to go all conspiracy theorist on everyone here - but, we are all being snooped, pretty much constantly.

My wife and I have had this conversation.  Normally relating to how obviously ads on Facebook (or whatever) seem to match what has been discussed in private message, emails, or even phone conversations.  This, without ever actually saying anything about it on Facebook itself.
But this is what makes it worse...  It's not just obvious digital communication.  It's personal voice conversations when no digital device is even apparently active.

This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.



Best Buy, and others, are just tryin' to keep you Free.  Wink.
 
2014-07-28 11:40:20 AM  

K3rmy: powhound: I just snapped a pic of my flaccid junk on my iphone5, so the joke is on those dirty bastards.

I did that and for some odd reason started receiving a lot more "Enlarge Your Penis" emails than usual.


Laughed so hard, I scared my dog.
 
2014-07-28 11:41:07 AM  

Clash City Farker: Linux_Yes: Clash City Farker: WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

A cell phone is nothing but 21st century shackle. You have no idea how much computing power is packed into one of those devices. You are all slaves.


what if you don't have a cell phone??   just sayin'.

I don't have one.



that means you cannot be tracked. unless there's no cloud cover and/or nightime.   ((::
 
2014-07-28 11:44:35 AM  

theflatline: JackieRabbit: Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.

And the first Apple apologist enters the ring!

First he said "Security industry analyst Rich Mogull said Zdziarski's work was overhyped but technically accurate. "

Then the guy said " "They are collecting more than they should be, and the only way to get it is to compromise security," said Mogull, chief executive officer of Securosis. "

So he said he thought it was over hyped but technically accurate.   That is like  saying "well while black is the absence of all color, we are still seeing black as a color".

The same "Security Expert" who has made a career of writing Apple positive articles for Macworld and running an Apple-centric newsletter,blog for 24 years...   No bias there.



once you understand that Information/Knowledge is Power and that Big Business loves only money and power, then it all makes sense. Big Business knows that the more information/knowledge they have, the more money they will make.

if those Turds CAN spy on you, THEY WILL.    it's called Freedom.


ain't it Great!
 
2014-07-28 11:46:18 AM  

Linux_Yes: theflatline: JackieRabbit: Oh good lord.... The security experts looking at Apple's diagnostic data collection say there is no reason to be concerned, but the media is going to go all OMFG! Then subbies on Fark freak and post with the "Scary" tag. All equipment and OS makers collect diagnostic information. This isn't spying.

And the first Apple apologist enters the ring!

First he said "Security industry analyst Rich Mogull said Zdziarski's work was overhyped but technically accurate. "

Then the guy said " "They are collecting more than they should be, and the only way to get it is to compromise security," said Mogull, chief executive officer of Securosis. "

So he said he thought it was over hyped but technically accurate.   That is like  saying "well while black is the absence of all color, we are still seeing black as a color".

The same "Security Expert" who has made a career of writing Apple positive articles for Macworld and running an Apple-centric newsletter,blog for 24 years...   No bias there.


once you understand that Information/Knowledge is Power and that Big Business loves only money and power, then it all makes sense. Big Business knows that the more information/knowledge they have, the more money they will make.

if those Turds CAN spy on you, THEY WILL.    it's called Freedom.


ain't it Great!



also, Big Business (and the wealthy) know that the more information/knowledge they have the more control they have.  and if they have control, then they know the money/wealth will follow.

ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-07-28 11:46:58 AM  
Is the end game here really just higher profits? If they are smart enough to figure out how to do this blanket monitoring then certainly they'd be smart enough to realize they wouldn't get away with it forever.  I suppose they're counting on people just not caring about it that much and feel they will be able to stay ahead of the backlash because they should know most everything going on due to the widespread surveillance.   It's also hard to believe it's some huge sinister plot at control because they already accomplish that through their current efforts.  It really seems like you could do a lot more good with all this information than bad provided that you have the heart to do so.
 
2014-07-28 11:47:55 AM  

daffy: K3rmy: powhound: I just snapped a pic of my flaccid junk on my iphone5, so the joke is on those dirty bastards.

I did that and for some odd reason started receiving a lot more "Enlarge Your Penis" emails than usual.

Laughed so hard, I scared my dog.



the reason your dog was scared is because he, unknown to you, has charged your CC for Canine Penis Enlargment pills.  go easy on him.
 
2014-07-28 11:49:13 AM  
It's those damn license agreements that I'm concerned about.

img.fark.net
 
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2014-07-28 11:55:33 AM  
nekom: I'm pretty sure our AS/400 emulating a System/36 isn't spying on us.

Big computers and storage used to come with modems for support to call in and check what's going on. These days support interfaces aren't supposed to have access to customer data. So they say.
 
2014-07-28 11:56:46 AM  
It's good to see that a number of Farkers are deftly avoiding allowing themselves to be tracked in every way.

Yes sir, they should be applauded for their ability to remain anonymous.

I'm sure it's working as well as they think.
 
2014-07-28 11:57:15 AM  

Fluid: Just assume you're being watched already and act accordingly.


This is possibly the most Orwellian statement possible.
 
2014-07-28 11:58:53 AM  

sprgrss: Dear jesus.  That pieces was nothing but mays coulds and possiblies.

I need to get in the business of writing articles like this.  Just pull something from my ass and use mays and coulds to scare the shiat out of people.


It's called click-bait and it makes up 90% of "news" on the web.

/unlpug me, please
 
2014-07-28 12:03:29 PM  

omgbears: durbnpoisn: I'm not going to go all conspiracy theorist on everyone here - but, we are all being snooped, pretty much constantly.

My wife and I have had this conversation.  Normally relating to how obviously ads on Facebook (or whatever) seem to match what has been discussed in private message, emails, or even phone conversations.  This, without ever actually saying anything about it on Facebook itself.
But this is what makes it worse...  It's not just obvious digital communication.  It's personal voice conversations when no digital device is even apparently active.

This is the thing...  A few weeks ago, our oven died.  So we were standing in the kitchen discussing pricing for new ovens.  Something we'd never discussed in any manner before.  So I reached over and grabbed my tablet, and brought up the Best Buy site.  I'd never been there before.  Ever.  The opening page was loaded with advertisements for ovens.  Seriously.  That is way too big of a coincidence to ignore.  It seems somewhat clear that one of our phones must have been listening in to our converasation and related the contents to advertisers that targeted our conversion as if by magic.

Check out "Baader Meinhoff Phenomenon"


I was just talking about that with a friend!!
 
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