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2014-07-27 10:51:49 PM  
I use a combination of cursive and block letters, depending on which is faster for that situation.  It's pretty bad, and my handwriting which was previously bad is now almost unreadable.  I worry the banks will stop taking the checks I write it's so bad.

/yes, some people still ask to get paid via check
 
2014-07-27 10:53:30 PM  

gunsmack: lohphat: Why are you afraid of learning more than one thing?

It's a matter of time  and priorities. Students are learning less. The job market requires more. Isn't it possible that the time used for cursive could be used for something more practical?


They're learning less because of idiotic standardized testing.

So let's continue diluting education and race to the bottom faster.
 
2014-07-27 10:55:45 PM  

CruJones: I use a combination of cursive and block letters, depending on which is faster for that situation.  It's pretty bad, and my handwriting which was previously bad is now almost unreadable.  I worry the banks will stop taking the checks I write it's so bad.

/yes, some people still ask to get paid via check


For some it beats paying 4% to MasterCard. Me, I'll happily take 96% of my fee if I don't have to go to the bank every time I get paid.
 
2014-07-27 10:56:52 PM  
Practiced cursive writing is faster than printing. Taking notes by hand leads to better retention and understanding than typing them. That's it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140424102837.htm
 
2014-07-27 11:01:29 PM  

DarkVader: Herr Flick's Revenge: Every stupid person I have ever met could not read or write cursive.
Every person I have met that was intelligent or educated wrote in block printing cursive.
My mentally ill clearly more intelligent than I am brother prefers block printing.

Using cursive block printing means you are educated and intelligent.
Using block printing cursive means mental illness, stupidity or lack of education.

FTFY.

Seriously, it's 2014.  Nobody intelligent uses cursive any more, and hasn't since elementary school.  Only the severely mentally retarded have an irrational attachment to a writing style that lost its reason to exist with the invention of the typewriter and signifies nothing but mental illness with the current ubiquity of technology.


Let us know how long you have been applying for a job.  Seriously.

Cursive writing is the most primitive form of "sophisticated" writing.  The most basic form of hand written communications.

You are only capable of printing block characters. 
Good luck there, Sparky.   You fail to be able to actually write a resume by hand.  All of your references are lies.  Thanks.

Please, brag to us about your new-hire at Google or Microsoft without basic skills.  Please do, with references.

Written language skills my be on their way out, but they are still evidence of your basic literacy.  Fail is fail, thanks for playing.
 
2014-07-27 11:14:50 PM  

odinsposse: ChrisDe: At some point in your life, somebody is going to write you a check. And you damned well should be able to sign it.

Your signature doesn't need to be in cursive. It just has to be something that will be recognized as your own mark. You could sign all your checks with a drawing of a penis if you wanted to.


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2014-07-27 11:17:07 PM  

eas81: frestcrallen: eas81: [bridgettebooth.com image 850x226]

On a certain level, yes.  It's hard to define.

So what does mine say?

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


comicsmedia.ign.com


Just kidding. It says you haven't had much cause to write in longhand in your life. Whether that's a legitimate loss or completely irrelevant is the subject of the thread.
 
2014-07-27 11:17:29 PM  
Why?  So that I can follow my dream of becoming a tattoo artist specializing in Mexican necks, that's why.
 
2014-07-27 11:24:17 PM  

frestcrallen: eas81: frestcrallen: eas81: [bridgettebooth.com image 850x226]

On a certain level, yes.  It's hard to define.

So what does mine say?

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]
[comicsmedia.ign.com image 465x310]


Just kidding. It says you haven't had much cause to write in longhand in your life. Whether that's a legitimate loss or completely irrelevant is the subject of the thread.


I/T support so it says I just use a computer all the time....:/   You should see my signature, if it ever comes to disputing a charge I know I will win.....
 
2014-07-27 11:24:55 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: DarkVader: Herr Flick's Revenge: Every stupid person I have ever met could not read or write cursive.
Every person I have met that was intelligent or educated wrote in block printing cursive.
My mentally ill clearly more intelligent than I am brother prefers block printing.

Using cursive block printing means you are educated and intelligent.
Using block printing cursive means mental illness, stupidity or lack of education.

FTFY.

Seriously, it's 2014.  Nobody intelligent uses cursive any more, and hasn't since elementary school.  Only the severely mentally retarded have an irrational attachment to a writing style that lost its reason to exist with the invention of the typewriter and signifies nothing but mental illness with the current ubiquity of technology.

Let us know how long you have been applying for a job.  Seriously.

Cursive writing is the most primitive form of "sophisticated" writing.  The most basic form of hand written communications.

You are only capable of printing block characters. 
Good luck there, Sparky.   You fail to be able to actually write a resume by hand.  All of your references are lies.  Thanks.

Please, brag to us about your new-hire at Google or Microsoft without basic skills.  Please do, with references.

Written language skills my be on their way out, but they are still evidence of your basic literacy.  Fail is fail, thanks for playing.


Wow, you're kind of a dick, aren't you?

On what measure are you making these claims? Just your own say so? I interview people for technical jobs where they need to communicate. I don't give a good god damn if they can write in cursive, because all of their reports will be on a word processor.  I wanna know if they can speak intelligently to someone who isn't a computer geek. Can they explain the Heartbleed attack in 90 seconds without gobbledygook?

Communication is important. Ability to articulate yourself is mandatory. But cursive writing has little to do with that, and I don't see it as some proof of your overall worth as an employee or of your literacy.  Literacy is about the mind, about your words, not your medium. I have horrible hand eye coordination - my printing and cursive are awful, but I have written papers that have been kept as examples of great writing. I write for work for proposals and have written for general officers. My horrible penmanship neither detracted nor contributed.
 
2014-07-27 11:26:00 PM  
The best reason I can think of for a grammar school student to develop a solid cursive hand involves career choice: If he or she aspires to join the exciting world of newspaper journalism, it's good to have a clean handwriting style that can be easily read out of wire-bound notebook.

That way, when you're typing up your story, you'll have a reduced risk of misspelled words. It's not like that spelling checks itself, you know!
 
2014-07-27 11:30:29 PM  

balisane: Practiced cursive writing is faster than printing. Taking notes by hand leads to better retention and understanding than typing them. That's it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140424102837.htm


My best coursework ever was when I took handwritten notes in cursive (with a number of abbreviations and symbols mixed in) and later that day transcribed those notes into a typed outline.  I took all my trial notes in cursive writing using similar abbreviations and became fast enough to keep up with most witness' testimony.  I could have never done that with a keyboard.  When you have to encode information mentally in more than one way you'll retain it better than if you do it only once.  Write it and speak it, write it and type it, write it and translate it- it doesn't matter what the different encoding methods are used so long as you use more than one.
 
2014-07-27 11:32:25 PM  
I learned cursive in school -- but my method of writing went to shiat, so I started printing and using a typewriter. Typewriter: mechanical device, unpowered, which uses precision connected keys and levers to move steel rods holding squares of Times New Roman letters to impact a cloth or plastic inked ribbon between them and a sheet of paper on a roller to produce legible, organized print.

However, I have had the opportunity to read letters and notes written by people whose cursive writing was absolutely beautiful, easy to read, and a treasure to behold. Those letters you didn't want to wad up and throw away.

The forms of the words just flowed like art, soothing to the eye and almost mesmerizing. One of the best examples is the Constitution of the United States, having been written by 'regular folks' and not by a calligrapher. Old letters from back then, written on parchment or linen paper, by quill -- or later -- fountain pen make you want to mount them and hang them on the wall.

Women actually usually surpassed men in this form of writing and receiving a love letter from one back then was a true jewel.

Fonts, not matter how well made, by computer just do not carry the same magic. Times New Roman -- created mainly for mass printing, is sterile and cold but easy to read and easy to make into movable type.

Type was made from lead and hand set, later to be set by an ingenious, massive typewriter like machine, and worn type was dropped into the 'Hell Bucket' attached to the machine. A hot pot which melted the lead to be formed into new type.

There was basic cursive also, not the overly illuminated or fancified versions you find from the Middle Ages, where Monks spent years copying texts by hand. Basic cursive is easy to read.
 
2014-07-27 11:34:16 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: Let us know how long you have been applying for a job.  Seriously.

Cursive writing is the most primitive form of "sophisticated" writing.  The most basic form of hand written communications.

You are only capable of printing block characters.
Good luck there, Sparky.   You fail to be able to actually write a resume by hand.  All of your references are lies.  Thanks.

Please, brag to us about your new-hire at Google or Microsoft without basic skills.  Please do, with references.

Written language skills my be on their way out, but they are still evidence of your basic literacy.  Fail is fail, thanks for playing.


Competency with multiple writing forms is a very small, if even applicable in today's electronic environment, aspect of conveying intelligible ideas in print. The beauty of one's writing is irrelevant if no one can understand the information being presented due to poor grammar and sentence structure. I think that schools should prioritize the latter and place much less emphasis on the former... 'construct the carriage before hitching up the mule,' as it were.

You know what I mean?
 
2014-07-27 11:37:27 PM  
Why learn to read cursive?  So you'll know what something like www.jfklibrary.orgthis says if you ever get one:
 
2014-07-27 11:38:17 PM  

ElLoco: MylesHeartVodak: Let us know how long you have been applying for a job.  Seriously.

Cursive writing is the most primitive form of "sophisticated" writing.  The most basic form of hand written communications.

You are only capable of printing block characters.
Good luck there, Sparky.   You fail to be able to actually write a resume by hand.  All of your references are lies.  Thanks.

Please, brag to us about your new-hire at Google or Microsoft without basic skills.  Please do, with references.

Written language skills my be on their way out, but they are still evidence of your basic literacy.  Fail is fail, thanks for playing.

Competency with multiple writing forms is a very small, if even applicable in today's electronic environment, aspect of conveying intelligible ideas in print. The beauty of one's writing is irrelevant if no one can understand the information being presented due to poor grammar and sentence structure. I think that schools should prioritize the latter and place much less emphasis on the former... 'construct the carriage before hitching up the mule,' as it were.

You know what I mean?


Don't you find it strange that forty years ago children in public schools did all of the above, and even though we spend much more now our children are less capable than before? My children are learning cursive. And Latin. And a shiat ton of other electives. I call it the Parenting Gap. My kids will be Haves.
 
2014-07-27 11:40:43 PM  

toejam:


Fuuuuuuu...

Does this mean that gay Robert Downey Jr is going to show up soon?
 
2014-07-27 11:41:36 PM  

stan unusual: says if you ever get one:


Heh, that reminds me of the "welcome" card my son received from the White House when he was born.  If my son can't read that card one day, I've failed as a parent in a lot of ways.
 
2014-07-27 11:42:09 PM  
How the heck are future doctors supposed to write unintelligible prescriptions if they don't know cursive?
 
2014-07-27 11:43:27 PM  

stan unusual: Why learn to read cursive?  So you'll know what something like [www.jfklibrary.org image 850x574]this says if you ever get one:


This just proves that learning cursive gets you shot in the head, they will kill you for learning.
 
2014-07-27 11:45:44 PM  

danceswithcrows: Fireproof: I would hunt-and-peck while typing until I discovered Fark my Freshman year of college.

In 7th grade, all of us had to take Typing. It was 1989, there were IBM Selectrics, computers were not really considerd ready for prime time yet. I didn't learn much from the class because the teacher was pretty terrible. I didn't really learn to type well until several years later, when I wrote a novel on my dad's SE/30. Practice, practice, practice every day = eventual 70 wpm.

I also taught myself how to write in italics, blackletter, and Fëanorian Tengwar. None of these are really that useful. Kind of fun though....


So you taught yourself how to make art. Do you fill out forms or write letters to people in Blackletter? No? And as for your "Italics"...no. Just no. That isn't Italics, but something more akin to calligraphy.
 
2014-07-27 11:46:35 PM  
"Paul was meticulous and organized: he always carried a notebook around with him, in which he methodically wrote down lyrics and chord changes in his neat handwriting. In contrast, John seemed to live in chaos: he was constantly searching for scraps of paper that he'd hurriedly scribbled ideas on."

Not sure if that makes an argument for or against.
 
2014-07-27 11:48:16 PM  

badhatharry: Number40: Cursive should be outlawed.

Should analog clocks be outlawed?


No, because analog clocks are useful.

Our system of timekeeping is bizarre. It may not seem that way, but that's just because you're used to it. But think about it: the second is a meaningless and arbitrary unit. Things get weirder with minutes and seconds. (Why sixty?) Then it just goes to hell: We have twelve names for hours (why?), where "twelve" is the lowest, "one" is next lowest, and up to "eleven", the highest. It's a nightmare.

Dial clocks organize that crap. Once you understand the system, you can skip the dial and use a digital clock, which just displays the numbers. But a graphical display helps you get a handle on the rigmarole.
 
2014-07-27 11:49:49 PM  

J Noble Daggett: daffy: My sister wrights so beautifully, my mother was always proud. I, on the other hand, wrote so badly that even I could not read it. Soon my signature is going to flat line----------------.

My son's was so bad we used to scan his homework and print it. The teacher asked me to have him print his work. After a few days she said to have him use the computer.

What does your sister wright? And what's that got to do with cursive writing?
Sorry for the spelling lame but, people judge each other. Potential employers judge, bosses judge, co-workers judge, clients judge, employees judge. Cursive is another communication skill, like spelling, grammar, construction. Communication skills serve you in ways you may never realize, nor never have anticipated.
Giving up on something as basic as writing skills is a bit like getting a neck tattoo. It advertises something about you that you may not always want to advertise.


Sorry. Did I say that it was not needed? I happen to think it is something that is needed. I also think that history is important, but that does not seem important in schools either. All I said was that my son and I write badly. I worked for 25 years. My son just graduated collage with honors. Is it possible that you may have judged me a bit unfairly?
 
2014-07-27 11:50:22 PM  
This argument reminds me a lot of those "having solved all other problems..." headlines and people pointing out that it's possible to do more than one thing at a time. In addition to all the other crap I learned in school, I don't remember learning cursive (we called it handwriting) taking very long. Of course, back then we could learn more than one thing a year.
 
2014-07-27 11:50:39 PM  

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: How the heck are future doctors supposed to write unintelligible prescriptions if they don't know cursive?


The ER doctor I saw yesterday just printed my three prescriptions off a computer. Didn't even sign anything on them.
 
2014-07-27 11:53:26 PM  

Captain Horatio Mindblower: badhatharry: Number40: Cursive should be outlawed.

Should analog clocks be outlawed?

No, because analog clocks are useful.

Our system of timekeeping is bizarre. It may not seem that way, but that's just because you're used to it. But think about it: the second is a meaningless and arbitrary unit. Things get weirder with minutes and seconds. (Why sixty?) Then it just goes to hell: We have twelve names for hours (why?), where "twelve" is the lowest, "one" is next lowest, and up to "eleven", the highest. It's a nightmare.

Dial clocks organize that crap. Once you understand the system, you can skip the dial and use a digital clock, which just displays the numbers. But a graphical display helps you get a handle on the rigmarole.


And this is but one more reason I switched to military-style timekeeping. My daily watch is analog, sure, but all my digital clocks (computer, phone, tablet, digital watch, etc) all go from 0:00 to 23:59.
 
2014-07-27 11:56:41 PM  
There are people who have succeeded in life despite severe reading disabilities. However, you would not want you kid to have a reading disability. Cursive writing is a skill they should attempt. Perhaps they won't master it. Fine. But while trying they will be reinforcing other writing skills that will serve them well, especially the very basics of spelling, even though spell checkers help, you have to get close for them to work well.
It's not like kids are going to be failed a grade (as if they even do that anymore) for poor penmanship.
 
2014-07-28 12:00:49 AM  

wademh: It's not like kids are going to be failed a grade (as if they even do that anymore) for poor penmanship.


Largely they don't fail kids a grade anymore.  It permanently damages their ability to make friends.  Seriously, that's the rational.  Timmy won't be able to make meaningful friends with kids a year younger and they may even tease him.
 
2014-07-28 12:02:44 AM  

daffy: J Noble Daggett: daffy: My sister wrights so beautifully, my mother was always proud. I, on the other hand, wrote so badly that even I could not read it. Soon my signature is going to flat line----------------.

My son's was so bad we used to scan his homework and print it. The teacher asked me to have him print his work. After a few days she said to have him use the computer.

What does your sister wright? And what's that got to do with cursive writing?
Sorry for the spelling lame but, people judge each other. Potential employers judge, bosses judge, co-workers judge, clients judge, employees judge. Cursive is another communication skill, like spelling, grammar, construction. Communication skills serve you in ways you may never realize, nor never have anticipated.
Giving up on something as basic as writing skills is a bit like getting a neck tattoo. It advertises something about you that you may not always want to advertise.

Sorry. Did I say that it was not needed? I happen to think it is something that is needed. I also think that history is important, but that does not seem important in schools either. All I said was that my son and I write badly. I worked for 25 years. My son just graduated collage with honors. Is it possible that you may have judged me a bit unfairly?


With apologies, my comments were intended more as a general broadcast, taking advantage of your typo/misspelling as a means of introducing my thoughts. I did not intend for it to be a lecture targeted at you or to imply that you expressed an antagonistic point of view.
 
2014-07-28 12:05:17 AM  

frestcrallen: "Paul was meticulous and organized: he always carried a notebook around with him, in which he methodically wrote down lyrics and chord changes in his neat handwriting. In contrast, John seemed to live in chaos: he was constantly searching for scraps of paper that he'd hurriedly scribbled ideas on."

Not sure if that makes an argument for or against.


For against it doesn't matter it's a Beatles reference, unless you are a 13 year old girl in 1966 there is no reason to care.
 
2014-07-28 12:07:39 AM  
Hand writing analysis.  An effective tool if you would all just please conform!
 
2014-07-28 12:10:49 AM  
I feel it is an issue of dividing people based on socio-economic class.  The students I taught weren't learning cursive because they were being drilled on math and reading skills.  They enter school so far behind the usual suburban norm that many things are left out of their education, usually the things that enhance one's life...art, music, play.
 
2014-07-28 12:11:54 AM  

gadian: wademh: It's not like kids are going to be failed a grade (as if they even do that anymore) for poor penmanship.

Largely they don't fail kids a grade anymore.  It permanently damages their ability to make friends.  Seriously, that's the rational.  Timmy won't be able to make meaningful friends with kids a year younger and they may even tease him.


This is not un-rational, putting people out of there social group, is problematic at best, I went to school it people that where held back and the didn't make it, in the sense that that actually killed them. So don't be so glib about the damage that social alienation does to people, because it is real
 
2014-07-28 12:21:14 AM  

gingerjet: The most useless thing I was taught in school?  Cursive writing.  The most useful thing I was taught in school?  Keyboarding.


So how are you going to sign legal documents with your keyboard?  Or are you going to print your name in big block letters like a 4 year old?
 
2014-07-28 12:28:29 AM  

silverjets: gingerjet: The most useless thing I was taught in school?  Cursive writing.  The most useful thing I was taught in school?  Keyboarding.

So how are you going to sign legal documents with your keyboard?  Or are you going to print your name in big block letters like a 4 year old?





Electronic signature how does it work
 
2014-07-28 12:34:52 AM  

eas81: silverjets: gingerjet: The most useless thing I was taught in school?  Cursive writing.  The most useful thing I was taught in school?  Keyboarding.

So how are you going to sign legal documents with your keyboard?  Or are you going to print your name in big block letters like a 4 year old?

Electronic signature how does it work


not in the way you clearly think, there are fewer points of reference for my signature, math does not solve everything actually, and IRL there is trust knowledge of people, if you divorce all social interaction and trust from what we do in life, we may as well take off an nuke it ALL from obit because it really is the only way to be sure.
 
2014-07-28 12:39:16 AM  

eas81: silverjets: gingerjet: The most useless thing I was taught in school?  Cursive writing.  The most useful thing I was taught in school?  Keyboarding.

So how are you going to sign legal documents with your keyboard?  Or are you going to print your name in big block letters like a 4 year old?


Electronic signature how does it work


I'd like to see you put an electronic signature on an original paper document.
 
2014-07-28 12:39:21 AM  

albatros183: This is not un-rational, putting people out of there social group, is problematic at best, I went to school it people that where held back and the didn't make it, in the sense that that actually killed them. So don't be so glib about the damage that social alienation does to people, because it is real


The alternative is graduating people who can't read, do basic math, or who because of their lack of skill in basic reading, writing, and arithmetic has missed a substantial portion of the rest of their education. Fundamentally, if the parents cared, their kid wouldn't be failing academically.  They would've at least been put on a learning plan a long time ago.  I realize that, because parents just don't care, we put the school system into the role of parents far more often than we should.  I draw the line at the school making sure a kid makes friends once he is held back.  If a kid suffers so greatly from being held back, they really ought to then be moved to special ed or home schooled because there is more wrong with them than academics. 

How is it going to play out for a kid who graduates who can't read?  We all know the answer to that.  Ideally, we'd encompass all aspects of a child's development at all times, but as is the crux with the handwriting issue, there isn't enough time to do everything all the time.  Hold the kid back, don't let other kids bully them, and maybe the kid will learn something.  They get held back now or they get held back later.
 
2014-07-28 12:46:51 AM  

gadian: How is it going to play out for a kid who graduates who can't read?  We all know the answer to that.


It's true that they'll be significantly affected. But giving a diploma to an illiterate person is pure bad. Let them take a thirteenth year if they're still not reading fast enough, or let them graduate by night school. A diploma not being proof of literacy is making the bachelor's degree more common than it is necessary and more expensive than is sustainable (along with a host of other things making college expensive) and it needs to STOP.
 
2014-07-28 12:50:14 AM  

gadian: albatros183: This is not un-rational, putting people out of there social group, is problematic at best, I went to school it people that where held back and the didn't make it, in the sense that that actually killed them. So don't be so glib about the damage that social alienation does to people, because it is real

The alternative is graduating people who can't read, do basic math, or who because of their lack of skill in basic reading, writing, and arithmetic has missed a substantial portion of the rest of their education. Fundamentally, if the parents cared, their kid wouldn't be failing academically.  They would've at least been put on a learning plan a long time ago.  I realize that, because parents just don't care, we put the school system into the role of parents far more often than we should.  I draw the line at the school making sure a kid makes friends once he is held back.  If a kid suffers so greatly from being held back, they really ought to then be moved to special ed or home schooled because there is more wrong with them than academics. 

How is it going to play out for a kid who graduates who can't read?  We all know the answer to that.  Ideally, we'd encompass all aspects of a child's development at all times, but as is the crux with the handwriting issue, there isn't enough time to do everything all the time.  Hold the kid back, don't let other kids bully them, and maybe the kid will learn something.  They get held back now or they get held back later.


No that is not the alternative.

There is no reason kids should graduate that cannot read, period, no reason except choice, it is not parents, greg in my example was 14 when I was in grade 5, he helped me, looked out for me, he was not in anyway stupid, he was poor, I was not, he would have been called a bully I think, he protected me, and you want to tell me that holding him back 4 years was a good thing?.

You would be wrong to say such a thing.

OK anecdote is not reason but, we choose,  "Ideally, we'd encompass all aspects of a child's development at all times, but as is the crux with the handwriting issue..."

We can make this choice, we make society...WE MAKE IT. PERIOD.
 
2014-07-28 01:04:56 AM  
I accidentally renewed my cursive writing last year and it's a blast. Everything just looks classier. It does to the eyes what a smooth English accent does to the ears.
 
2014-07-28 01:07:45 AM  

jst3p: I would rather take the time they use to teach cursive and use it to teach HTML or any scripting.


How about we lengthen the school day and teach both.

And give teachers the healthy uptick in salary they deserve.

Problem solved.
 
2014-07-28 01:10:21 AM  

Hermione_Granger: jst3p: I would rather take the time they use to teach cursive and use it to teach HTML or any scripting.

How about we lengthen the school day and teach both.

And give teachers the healthy uptick in salary they deserve.

Problem solved.


I only teach scripting in Script.
 
2014-07-28 01:10:44 AM  

UsikFark: A mix of cursive and print letters is the sign of educated, efficient handwriting. Meanwhile, I know people born just a few years after me who write their (print) letters like crooked tombstones in a graveyard.

Here is an example of the sort of cursive/print hybrid:
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x278]
That is not the best handwriting, but you can tell they learned cursive and still link frequent letter pairs.


see now depending on the age I think that's embarassing and uneducated. this country is a sinking ship and the current dumbing down of our children- thanks to dumb parents- is going to turn this country into a 3rd world sinkhole in another 60 years.

/only write in cursive
//yes i have beautiful handwriting
///i write wedding invitations by hand. biatches.
 
2014-07-28 01:14:37 AM  

jst3p: I would rather take the time they use to teach cursive and use it to teach HTML or any scripting.


You think the world needs more shiatty webpages?
 
2014-07-28 01:17:37 AM  

Hermione_Granger: jst3p: I would rather take the time they use to teach cursive and use it to teach HTML or any scripting.

How about we lengthen the school day and teach both.

And give teachers the healthy uptick in salary they deserve.

Problem solved.


Time and money haven't improved things yet. More time and money have more correlation to decline than improvement. Let's not do that. Paying more teachers is great if, by a consistent set of rules (not necessarily standardized testing) they can earn the money by demonstrating improved performance. Otherwise it's feel-good money that allows us to ignore the dumbing down of our country.
 
2014-07-28 01:17:39 AM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Every stupid person I have ever met could not read or write cursive.
Every person I have met that was intelligent or educated wrote cursive.
My mentally ill brother prefers block printing.

Using cursive means you are educated and intelligent.
Using block printing means mental illness, stupidity or lack of education.


Plus, those who cannot write in cursive tend to be very defensive, yet touchy about it.

Stupid dumb people.  Just shut up and deliver my pizza.
 
2014-07-28 01:18:17 AM  
Really this is not the first FARK cursive thread, and I wish mine was better than it is, so how about something constructive and someone post links to making it better?
 
2014-07-28 01:23:42 AM  

albatros183: Really this is not the first FARK cursive thread, and I wish mine was better than it is, so how about something constructive and someone post links to making it better?


I had a very tough time sourcing good material on this. In the end, I simply wrote about a hundred different alphabets and saw what I liked and didn't like. I revised it for speed and ended up with something I really enjoy. Maybe the best incentive, if you can get into this sort of thing, is to reward yourself with nice pens. Not a stupid $20 Cross pen. Do some window shopping and set your eyes on a fine gentleman's (or lady's) pen. I used a new sepia fountain pen up thread. It was very enjoyable.
 
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