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(Science Daily)   Pot appears to slow tumor growth in study. But Denver has more homeless since pot was legalized, so we can ignore the study   (sciencedaily.com) divider line 109
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2014-07-27 01:01:40 PM
It is hoped that the findings could help develop a synthetic equivalent with anti-cancer properties. ...

Cancer patients should not use cannabis to self-medicate, but I hope that our research will lead to a safe synthetic equivalent being available in the future.


Good thing they managed to think of the pharmaceutical companies. For a minute there I thought the study would be a rational examination and not another shill for big pharma. Glad they didn't disappoint.
 
2014-07-27 01:42:01 PM
Its almost like pharmaceuticals are carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes and not random shiat growing in the ground.

Must be a conspiracy. Study it out
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 01:58:42 PM
Well, tumors appeared to researchers to be growing more slowly when the researchers smoked pot.
 
2014-07-27 02:13:25 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Its almost like pharmaceuticals are carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes and not random shiat growing in the ground.


Care to compare the number of people killed every year by those "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances " versus those killed by that "  random shiat growing in the ground "?
 
2014-07-27 02:18:09 PM

Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: Its almost like pharmaceuticals are carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes and not random shiat growing in the ground.

Care to compare the number of people killed every year by those "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances " versus those killed by that "  random shiat growing in the ground "?


How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!
 
2014-07-27 02:20:16 PM
You find the chemical in cannabis that slows cancer growth. You synthesise it and package that specific chemical and make it a useful drug instead of hoping the marijuana you grow happens to have enough to have a therapeutic effect. You have a headache you get aspirin you don't peel the bark off a willow tree and make tea
 
2014-07-27 02:24:33 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!


Yes, thanks for that perfect example of false equivalence! When study after study has shown marijuana to have therapeutic effects, let's throw out some random shiat about roots and berries and cancer!

Still didn't answer the question- which is safer, your "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes " or weed? You can think real hard on this, we'll wait.

In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year
 
2014-07-27 02:29:07 PM

Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!

Yes, thanks for that perfect example of false equivalence! When study after study has shown marijuana to have therapeutic effects, let's throw out some random shiat about roots and berries and cancer!

Still didn't answer the question- which is safer, your "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes " or weed? You can think real hard on this, we'll wait.

In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year


Ok so recreational marijuana is much safer than many other significantly more useful pharmaceuticals. So is asprin or ibuprofen. What's your point? If it can't fulfill the same function then its not a fair comparison
 
2014-07-27 02:30:45 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: You find the chemical in cannabis that slows cancer growth. You synthesise it and package that specific chemical and make it a useful drug instead of hoping the marijuana you grow happens to have enough to have a therapeutic effect. You have a headache you get aspirin you don't peel the bark off a willow tree and make tea


Or, you identify which strains of pot have the ingredient that slows cancer growth and let people either grow or purchase those strains of pot, without Big Pharma making obscene profits for simply modifying the delivery system. oh and lots of people use alternative medications for headaches that work pretty well.
 
2014-07-27 02:32:32 PM
Damn, guys... smoke a bowl and mellow out
 
2014-07-27 02:35:46 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damn, guys... smoke a bowl and mellow out


No no no. They are amusing me. Let them continue.

Proceed ...
 
2014-07-27 02:36:45 PM

HawgWild: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damn, guys... smoke a bowl and mellow out

No no no. They are amusing me. Let them continue.

Proceed ...


Heh...

/want some popcorn while I'm up?
 
2014-07-27 02:41:05 PM

Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: You find the chemical in cannabis that slows cancer growth. You synthesise it and package that specific chemical and make it a useful drug instead of hoping the marijuana you grow happens to have enough to have a therapeutic effect. You have a headache you get aspirin you don't peel the bark off a willow tree and make tea

Or, you identify which strains of pot have the ingredient that slows cancer growth and let people either grow or purchase those strains of pot, without Big Pharma making obscene profits for simply modifying the delivery system. oh and lots of people use alternative medications for headaches that work pretty well.


I use crystals because they're natural and hold my aura
 
2014-07-27 02:43:18 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: HawgWild: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damn, guys... smoke a bowl and mellow out

No no no. They are amusing me. Let them continue.

Proceed ...

Heh...

/want some popcorn while I'm up?


Oh! Oh! I have some popcorn flavoring! Do you want white cheddar or nacho cheese?
 
2014-07-27 03:03:56 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: I use crystals because they're natural and hold my aura



I keep my aura in a bowl on my dresser. It gives the room a nice purplish glow at night. And it smells awesome!
 
2014-07-27 04:15:04 PM
Have you ever looked at tumor growth... ON WEED?
 
2014-07-27 04:45:11 PM
I thought I saw somewhere that the reason the homeless numbers have gone up is that stoners are giving up everything to go live on the streets of Denver, Boulder, etc. just so they can smoke legally?
 
2014-07-27 04:49:20 PM

FriarReb98: I thought I saw somewhere that the reason the homeless numbers have gone up is that stoners are giving up everything to go live on the streets of Denver, Boulder, etc. just so they can smoke legally?


You're right, but that's not hysteric enough.
 
2014-07-27 04:53:50 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damn, guys... smoke a bowl and mellow out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6vyTM_qJAE
 
2014-07-27 05:06:22 PM
I heard this on the radio, legal pot is to blame for the rise in Denver's homeless population since January 1, 2014, and it certainly has nothing at all to do with the fact that the city f*cking thawed out. I bet Colorado's legal weed will be responsible for Phoenix's sudden jump in homeless population this coming winter too.
 
2014-07-27 06:00:42 PM
It's not a toomah...bay-bee.
 
2014-07-27 06:03:05 PM
homeless and cancer free
 
2014-07-27 06:06:38 PM
"Pot appears to slow tumor growth in study. "

Stop studying,  Or, smoke more pot.  Or, something.  Already.

Just do it.
 
2014-07-27 06:07:27 PM
if only there was an appropriate metaphor to describe Denver's growing homeless population
 
2014-07-27 06:08:01 PM
 
2014-07-27 06:16:59 PM

Chunky Pumpkinhead: if only there was an appropriate metaphor to describe Denver's growing homeless population


This is Reefer Madness!
 
2014-07-27 06:20:12 PM
i'm torn. on the one hand, it's awesome all those brainwashed "weed ruins your life" people keep getting proven more and more wrong by science. on the other hand, all those obnoxious natural news, "rick simpson oil" woo woo nutjobs might actually be right for once.
 
2014-07-27 06:22:09 PM
The basis of chemo therapy is that the poison in your body kills way more defective cells than healthy ones.

After reading TFA I'm pretty sure THC should be classified as poison.
 
2014-07-27 06:23:40 PM
So pot even makes diseases lazy? Are they heard cough laughing too?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-27 06:24:16 PM
You know how many substances appear to slow or stop tumors in studies? Calculate the number of substances in the universe. Divide by two. That's your answer. That's why we have a "still no cure for... wait, what?" headline every few months.
 
2014-07-27 06:24:16 PM
See, that's why most modern house designers don't include a study anymore. Even if you can smoke pot in it, why would you want a room full of tumors?
 
2014-07-27 06:24:17 PM
That's great and all, but let's not pretend we want it legal solely for slowing cancer.  I want to get high, and not worry about the man.  I want to buy a product from a local business and even pay some taxes.  And I want this for personal recreational use.
 
2014-07-27 06:25:00 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!

Yes, thanks for that perfect example of false equivalence! When study after study has shown marijuana to have therapeutic effects, let's throw out some random shiat about roots and berries and cancer!

Still didn't answer the question- which is safer, your "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes " or weed? You can think real hard on this, we'll wait.

In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year

Ok so recreational marijuana is much safer than many other significantly more useful pharmaceuticals. So is asprin or ibuprofen. What's your point? If it can't fulfill the same function then its not a fair comparison


Did we NOT just have a multi-hundred-post thread about how that's bullshiat?

We did. whew, must be all that willow bark farkin' up my memory :)
 
2014-07-27 06:26:38 PM

Dinki: Good thing they managed to think of the pharmaceutical companies. For a minute there I thought the study would be a rational examination and not another shill for big pharma. Glad they didn't disappoint.


It's almost as if cancer is a highly complex umbrella of diseases, and that a science-based approach utilizing highly purified, selected and targeted cannabanoids would work better than just smoking a joint and calling it "medicine".

Must be a conspiracy. Study it out for us.
 
2014-07-27 06:28:54 PM
At this point, the DEA and Surgeon General, when arguing that Marijuana has no accepted medical use, are just arguing against an observable reality. It's as dumb as if they were arguing that the sky is polka dotted pink and green.
 
2014-07-27 06:29:30 PM

FriarReb98: I thought I saw somewhere that the reason the homeless numbers have gone up is that stoners are giving up everything to go live on the streets of Denver, Boulder, etc. just so they can smoke legally?


But you can't smoke legally on the streets in Colorado.
 
2014-07-27 06:31:44 PM

sobriquet by any other name: Did we NOT just have a multi-hundred-post thread about how that's bullshiat?

We did. whew, must be all that willow bark farkin' up my memory :)


So it's impossible to be supportive of science-based applications for marijuana and cannabanoid compounds (Yay for treatments for neurogenic pain and Dravet's Syndrome!) and against the amount of woo-ish crap out there about home made marijuana oils and smoking?

Nice to know.

Remind me again when the last time was that you scraped some willow bark off of a tree and downed it with some tonic water, versus going to the drug store and paying 89 cents for a bottle of highly purified acetylsalicylic acid  distributed in highly controlled and homogenized dose form?
 
2014-07-27 06:34:55 PM

Dinki: In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year


Well, that's what "Doctor" Joseph Mercola claims, anyway. Whether you find him to be a reliable source on information or not probably speaks loads of your ability to critically judge sources of information.
 
2014-07-27 06:39:31 PM
Can't we all just get a bong?
 
2014-07-27 06:40:06 PM
media3.giphy.com

/buncha grumpy stoners
 
2014-07-27 06:41:31 PM

hardinparamedic: sobriquet by any other name: Did we NOT just have a multi-hundred-post thread about how that's bullshiat?

We did. whew, must be all that willow bark farkin' up my memory :)

So it's impossible to be supportive of science-based applications for marijuana and cannabanoid compounds (Yay for treatments for neurogenic pain and Dravet's Syndrome!) and against the amount of woo-ish crap out there about home made marijuana oils and smoking?

Nice to know.

Remind me again when the last time was that you scraped some willow bark off of a tree and downed it with some tonic water, versus going to the drug store and paying 89 cents for a bottle of highly purified acetylsalicylic acid  distributed in highly controlled and homogenized dose form?


you know, the one thing that stands out is "wooish crap" about homemade oils. It's going to contain CBD, it's going to help to whatever limit such things do help. We're not talking "crystal" science here.

we're talking about something shown over and over again to be helpful, and if someone wants to isolate it so they can use patent law to extract wealth from sick people that's great.

acting like advocating marijuana oil for cancer patients with little other hope isn't "woo woo". It's compassionate. And the science supports it, local variations of potency be damned.
 
2014-07-27 06:45:42 PM
The tumors became lazy and directionless, growing only occasionally and spending the rest of the day playing Call of Duty.
 
2014-07-27 06:46:06 PM
(im pissed because now a study shows that marijuana can cause a 100% remission in Crohn's Disease and rheumatoid arthritis and my dad, without 15 ft of his intestine, was denied that help because christian idiots think brainwashing is a better high. That's IT. Assholes everywhere.)
 
2014-07-27 06:47:28 PM

Abox: FriarReb98: I thought I saw somewhere that the reason the homeless numbers have gone up is that stoners are giving up everything to go live on the streets of Denver, Boulder, etc. just so they can smoke legally?

But you can't smoke legally on the streets in Colorado.


You can buy it legally. You can carry it legally. Trust me, people are smoking it on the streets.

Not that it bothers me, smells better than cigarette smoke.
 
2014-07-27 06:49:14 PM
Didn't Bob Marley die of cancer?
 
2014-07-27 06:52:23 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!

Yes, thanks for that perfect example of false equivalence! When study after study has shown marijuana to have therapeutic effects, let's throw out some random shiat about roots and berries and cancer!

Still didn't answer the question- which is safer, your "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes " or weed? You can think real hard on this, we'll wait.

In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year

Ok so recreational marijuana is much safer than many other significantly more useful pharmaceuticals. So is asprin or ibuprofen. What's your point? If it can't fulfill the same function then its not a fair comparison



Soooo... I guess you don't realize that NSAID's actually kill people each year, and that one overdose can end your life, right? If aspirin was discovered today it would be tightly controlled prescription drug. We take it for granted, but it's a dangerous and potentially lethal drug. And not in the "oh everything is dangerous, you can OD on water" way... In the, our casual use of it is so dangerous that there's a debate whether it might actually be more of a killer than auto accidents.

The reason why it's over-the-counter is only an accident of history. Same as a lot of things. If aspirin, alcohol and marijuana were all discovered today it's likely that marijuana would be the only one of them legal for sale without a prescription.
 
2014-07-27 06:53:11 PM

Nowhereman: Didn't Bob Marley die of cancer?


yeah, but he was inhaling something like 10-20 joints a day, unfiltered.

and the only reason he did that was that jamaica wasn't a hot-bed of ecig development,

Look, if you spray chemotherapy compounds down your throat using battery acid, it also wont turn out well. We all know smoking burning particulates isn't particularly smart, any time any where. Give us another option.

/oh thanks CO, i'll have two.
 
2014-07-27 06:54:27 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Dinki: Doktor_Zhivago: How many people are saved from cancer from chemo vs roots and berries

False equivalence is great!

Yes, thanks for that perfect example of false equivalence! When study after study has shown marijuana to have therapeutic effects, let's throw out some random shiat about roots and berries and cancer!

Still didn't answer the question- which is safer, your "carefully measured and quality controlled doses of specific substances developed for specific purposes " or weed? You can think real hard on this, we'll wait.

In case you need some help -
Prescription Drugs Kill Over 100,000 People Each Year

Ok so recreational marijuana is much safer than many other significantly more useful pharmaceuticals. So is asprin or ibuprofen. What's your point? If it can't fulfill the same function then its not a fair comparison


Define "more useful pharmaceuticals". I bet I can find a marijuana strain that does the same thing for every equivalent pharma pill on the market.
 
2014-07-27 06:56:12 PM
^^^ challenge accepted.... category: "Weight loss"

/actually i eat less when high so...
 
2014-07-27 07:05:15 PM

sobriquet by any other name: (im pissed because now a study shows that marijuana can cause a 100% remission in Crohn's Disease and rheumatoid arthritis and my dad, without 15 ft of his intestine, was denied that help because christian idiots think brainwashing is a better high. That's IT. Assholes everywhere.)



Hey, I'm in IT, and I don't block pot.

/I block porn. Ha!
 
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