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(The New York Times)   Repeal Prohibition, again   (nytimes.com) divider line 26
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2014-07-27 05:11:15 PM  
4 votes:
No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.
2014-07-27 05:20:56 PM  
3 votes:
If this causes my wood-sulfide paper stocks to devalue, heads will roll.
2014-07-27 05:20:52 PM  
3 votes:

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


You know what didn't go up when Portugal decriminalized all drugs?

Drug use.
2014-07-27 06:55:41 PM  
2 votes:
2014-07-27 06:06:09 PM  
2 votes:
zulius:

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//Still Creepy...


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2014-07-27 05:50:36 PM  
2 votes:

stuhayes2010: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.


I'm not.  I haven't had a prescription in about 5 years and that was an antibiotic.  You'd have to go back 15 years to find any prescription drug I've had that could used recreationally and even then the prescription only lasted for a week.

I've known a couple of people who have had prescriptions for Xanax.  They basically used it recreationally, IMO.  One of them used to share them with me when we were out drinking.  I can't imagine though - Hey, doc.  I get nervous sometimes, can I have some benzos?

I went to the ER once and a nurse had a really bad attitude towards me.  He decided I was a drug seeker right off the bat because I said I was in pain and there wasn't a knife sticking out of my chest.  The doctor was about to give me a shot of morphine, but the nurse pulled the doctor aside and then they asked me to piss in a cup.  Happy, nurse dude?  Yeah, I told you I smoked pot and that's the only drug you found when you tested my piss, asshole.  I swear to god, the only reason I didn't rip his lungs out was because I actually was in so much pain.

I can't imagine asking a doctor for Xanax or anything like that even though I'm probably a good candidate for such a drug.  Part of it is because I don't want to be seen as a drug seeker and part of it is because I hear benzo addiction is a real biatch.  Like Jack Nicholson said in Easy Rider, "I've got enough problems with the booze and all."

So I abuse alcohol and use marijuana - I don't think my marijuana use actually rises to the level of abuse though.

Prohibition is a nice idea - if it worked.  I think society would be much better off if people didn't drink.  I'm sure I would be.  The problem is, it can't work.  Stop the sale and legal production of alcohol in the US and within a week I'll be googling bathtub gin and so will millions of others.  We'll become criminals.  Some of us will sell and buy it from the black market.

We've also proved that we can't stop people from growing pot or even making meth.  Regulate it and tax it.  Offer people help.  This prohibition shiat ain't working.  If people have problems abusing drugs, it should be considered a medical issue, not a legal one.
2014-07-27 05:04:38 PM  
2 votes:
I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.


I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.
2014-07-27 04:24:16 PM  
2 votes:
Even worse, the result is racist, falling disproportionately on young black men, ruining their lives and creating new generations of career criminals.


Me thinks this was part of the plan...
2014-07-27 09:11:58 PM  
1 votes:
Much like Hillary Clinton's sudden support for gay marriage last year, the NY Times is a bit late.  It's so much easier taking a stand when the tide of public opinion had swayed definitively in one direction.
2014-07-27 07:31:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: teenage mutant ninja rapist: zulius: /Oblig...
//Still Creepy...

Had to get the most hideous hags availiable for that picture didn't they. Funny thing is I would have to be totally shiatfaced to even consider kissing either one of them.

I think this one is making a duckface:

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She's the eye candy in that group.
2014-07-27 07:27:38 PM  
1 votes:

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


Right because that's what happened to all the countrieswhere weed is largely de-criminalized. Vast wastelands, the lot of them.
2014-07-27 07:15:06 PM  
1 votes:

Target Builder: "There are no perfect answers to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use."..What legitimate concerns? Long term heavy abuse of soft drinks seems to be more harmful than similarly heavy use of pot.


I'm sure they mean the long term evils that come with cannabis use.  I know that after nearly daily use for 42 years, I'm still waiting for the flashbacks...I mean WTF?  This stuff is supposed to be bad for me?  How do you THINK I managed to get in all those ski days last season, and keep in good shape?  It's not drinking, that shiate nearly killed me.

Of course, we don't know what the scientific long term studies will show BECAUSE THE D**KHEADS PROSCRIBED ANY RESEARCH THAT DID NOT SHOW IT A DEADLY POISON....So I say, bugger the "we don't know enough" crowd, they had plenty of years to gather scientific studies and did not because the KNEW that they would show Cannabis to be less harmful than Tobacco and Alcohol.  And you know how the Gov't and it's Minions HATE to be found out lying...

It's not the crime, it's the cover up and your chickens have come home to roost pants-wetting prohibitionists....
2014-07-27 06:29:34 PM  
1 votes:

Orgasmatron138: Target Builder: "There are no perfect answers to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use."..What legitimate concerns? Long term heavy abuse of soft drinks seems to be more harmful than similarly heavy use of pot.

Probably use while driving or operating heavy machinery. I never had a problem driving, but I could see studies showing that reflex time is slowed. And the effects the article mentioned about adolescents' brains.

Treat it like alcohol. 21 and over, no driving.  Problems solved.


Not at all.
Pot inebriated drivers can walk a straight line, touch their nose, fail to demonstrate nystagmus and can count backward.
When they stop giggling.
In all honesty, there is no reliable field sobriety test for marijuana and it does not cause the toxic effects and loss of motor control seen with alcohol.
2014-07-27 06:28:04 PM  
1 votes:

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.



Bullshiat.  Darwin takes the hindmost (and those who can't find the vaults of erowid), most use whatever substance in moderation, others simply don't bother/ and those who feel they have a problem go for treatment (~10% of users of most every substance).

Want to get so drunk in your backyard that you pass out and aspirate to death on your own vomit?  Your choice.
Want to sit in your living room and hot shot Heroin and die from the pulmonary edema?  Your choice
Interfere with the life or liberty of fellow citizens while under the influence of ANY substance?  Mandatory treatment/Mandatory Minimums
2014-07-27 06:10:10 PM  
1 votes:

Professor Farksworth: ecmoRandomNumbers: Stone Meadow: Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.

That would be the best.

Just imagine Obama coming out for a presser about his new Executive Order (which nobody knows what it will be). He walks up to the podium with  joint hanging out of his mouth. "Ladies and Gentlemen, of the United States of America, I have issued an Executive Order that immediately legalizes Marijuana in the United States on the Federal Level. It is now up to the states to decide their own actions of legalization and sale *COUGH COUGH COUGH* Sorry, I was trying something given to me by the Head of our new Department of Cannibs, Mr. Calvin Broadus. Also have you noticed how bright these lights are, and how cool this little tele screen thingy is?"

The next day the Republican candidate for Pres in 2016 would be on TV.

"I PROMISE IF I'M ELECTED I WILL REPEAL OBAMA'S END OF MARIJUANA PROHIBITION."

And that would put the nail in the coffin for that candidate.


Actually, the Tea-tard backlash of a black man legalizing weed might be why we haven't done it. Just distracts from more important things.
2014-07-27 05:51:57 PM  
1 votes:

GilRuiz1: In the future, when marijuana has been legal for decades, I wonder who will be playing the part of the Big Tobacco companies who will be sued for twisting people's arms into smoking and creating addicts.  This is going to be fun to watch.


Thaaattt's not really why the tobacco companies got sued.
2014-07-27 05:33:01 PM  
1 votes:

Orgasmatron138: Probably use while driving or operating heavy machinery. I never had a problem driving, but I could see studies showing that reflex time is slowed.


Those studies already exist(the NHTSA had them commissioned years ago in the Netherlands), and they're as you said.  Poor reflex time, very bad lane drift.  The same study also tested alcohol and a mixture of the two.  Alcohol had other bad effects and the mixture was the worst possible scenario(kind of obvious).  Basically, yea, you're impaired.  The only real problem is that there is no quick test a cop can do to see if you're currently under the influence, though, apparently, cops in Colorado are piloting a 10 minute saliva test for roadside stops.

Basically, use existing DUI laws(which generally cover any form of impairment), but improve testing, and we're good to go on that front.
2014-07-27 05:30:00 PM  
1 votes:

stuhayes2010: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.


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one of your things is not like the other...
2014-07-27 05:23:50 PM  
1 votes:

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


You sound fun.
2014-07-27 05:22:55 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: [www.tokeofthetown.com image 720x1105]

Marijuana is deadlier than Ebola, HIV, and Bruce Lee combined. Only one hit will cause death. These are absolute facts.


If I smoke weed, do I get a red-head with big tits?
2014-07-27 05:15:01 PM  
1 votes:

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.
2014-07-27 05:13:33 PM  
1 votes:
"There are no perfect answers to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use."..What legitimate concerns? Long term heavy abuse of soft drinks seems to be more harmful than similarly heavy use of pot.
2014-07-27 05:13:30 PM  
1 votes:
the only problem we're having with pot in Washington State is Republicans getting in the way.
But it is here and legal.

I guess the Republicans will have to go back to prohibiting sex.
2014-07-27 05:12:51 PM  
1 votes:
Okay, which mod is asleep at the wheel and keeps greenlighting articles where the Fark Headline is the EXACT SAME as the actual article headline.
2014-07-27 05:12:18 PM  
1 votes:

Dinki: Another sign that legalization is only a matter of time.


This. I don't smoke, but just legalize it already. Save this country billions of dollars.
2014-07-27 04:59:24 PM  
1 votes:

FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...


It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.
 
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