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2014-07-27 12:56:26 PM
Another sign that legalization is only a matter of time.
 
2014-07-27 01:13:47 PM
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2014-07-27 04:24:16 PM
Even worse, the result is racist, falling disproportionately on young black men, ruining their lives and creating new generations of career criminals.


Me thinks this was part of the plan...
 
2014-07-27 04:59:24 PM

FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...


It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.
 
2014-07-27 05:04:38 PM
I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.


I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.
 
2014-07-27 05:10:28 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.

I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.


I'm white and I'm smoking pot right now so I'm really getting a kick out of your comment.

/Sour Diesel
//$55 an eighth, but totally legal and sales tax included
///legal pot is expensive - I should go back to illegal marijuana
 
2014-07-27 05:11:09 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.

I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.


I did every day for 5 years, and it ruined my life.

Oh, wait, no it didn't, I have a great job, excellent physical health, and a wonderful home life.
 
2014-07-27 05:11:15 PM
No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.
 
2014-07-27 05:12:05 PM
In the future, when marijuana has been legal for decades, I wonder who will be playing the part of the Big Tobacco companies who will be sued for twisting people's arms into smoking and creating addicts.  This is going to be fun to watch.
 
2014-07-27 05:12:18 PM

Dinki: Another sign that legalization is only a matter of time.


This. I don't smoke, but just legalize it already. Save this country billions of dollars.
 
2014-07-27 05:12:51 PM
Okay, which mod is asleep at the wheel and keeps greenlighting articles where the Fark Headline is the EXACT SAME as the actual article headline.
 
2014-07-27 05:13:30 PM
the only problem we're having with pot in Washington State is Republicans getting in the way.
But it is here and legal.

I guess the Republicans will have to go back to prohibiting sex.
 
2014-07-27 05:13:33 PM
"There are no perfect answers to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use."..What legitimate concerns? Long term heavy abuse of soft drinks seems to be more harmful than similarly heavy use of pot.
 
2014-07-27 05:13:56 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.

I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.


Since whites are 72% of the population, there are probably more white users of any drug.
 
2014-07-27 05:15:01 PM

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.
 
2014-07-27 05:15:25 PM
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2014-07-27 05:15:42 PM

gophurt: Okay, which mod is asleep at the wheel and keeps greenlighting articles where the Fark Headline is the EXACT SAME as the actual article headline.


Headlines don't always have to be funny.
 
2014-07-27 05:16:53 PM

Target Builder: "There are no perfect answers to people's legitimate concerns about marijuana use."..What legitimate concerns? Long term heavy abuse of soft drinks seems to be more harmful than similarly heavy use of pot.


Probably use while driving or operating heavy machinery. I never had a problem driving, but I could see studies showing that reflex time is slowed. And the effects the article mentioned about adolescents' brains.

Treat it like alcohol. 21 and over, no driving.  Problems solved.
 
2014-07-27 05:19:42 PM
www.tokeofthetown.com

Marijuana is deadlier than Ebola, HIV, and Bruce Lee combined. Only one hit will cause death. These are absolute facts.
 
2014-07-27 05:20:52 PM

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


You know what didn't go up when Portugal decriminalized all drugs?

Drug use.
 
2014-07-27 05:20:56 PM
If this causes my wood-sulfide paper stocks to devalue, heads will roll.
 
2014-07-27 05:21:26 PM
yes!!
 
2014-07-27 05:22:55 PM

hardinparamedic: [www.tokeofthetown.com image 720x1105]

Marijuana is deadlier than Ebola, HIV, and Bruce Lee combined. Only one hit will cause death. These are absolute facts.


If I smoke weed, do I get a red-head with big tits?
 
2014-07-27 05:23:50 PM

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


You sound fun.
 
Al!
2014-07-27 05:24:05 PM

hardinparamedic: [www.tokeofthetown.com image 720x1105]

Marijuana is deadlier than Ebola, HIV, and Bruce Lee combined. Only one hit will cause death. These are absolute facts.


You've won me over.  Where can I get some?
 
2014-07-27 05:26:02 PM

TheOther: ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.

I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.

Since whites are 72% of the population, there are probably more white users of any drug.


That's what I was trying to allude to, though, unsuccessfully. How many white drug users do long stints in prison compared to people of color?
 
2014-07-27 05:28:56 PM

GilRuiz1: In the future, when marijuana has been legal for decades, I wonder who will be playing the part of the Big Tobacco companies who will be sued for twisting people's arms into smoking and creating addicts.  This is going to be fun to watch.


Inject a marijuana and chill the f*ck out, man.
 
2014-07-27 05:30:00 PM

stuhayes2010: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.


www.twonkhammer.com

one of your things is not like the other...
 
2014-07-27 05:31:05 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.


That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. (pun intended) I'd hoped he'd do it after getting elected the first time. And then after the 2010 midterms. And then after getting reelected. Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.
 
2014-07-27 05:31:23 PM

worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


Ladies and gents, this is a logical fallacy known as a False Dilemma.
 
2014-07-27 05:33:01 PM

Orgasmatron138: Probably use while driving or operating heavy machinery. I never had a problem driving, but I could see studies showing that reflex time is slowed.


Those studies already exist(the NHTSA had them commissioned years ago in the Netherlands), and they're as you said.  Poor reflex time, very bad lane drift.  The same study also tested alcohol and a mixture of the two.  Alcohol had other bad effects and the mixture was the worst possible scenario(kind of obvious).  Basically, yea, you're impaired.  The only real problem is that there is no quick test a cop can do to see if you're currently under the influence, though, apparently, cops in Colorado are piloting a 10 minute saliva test for roadside stops.

Basically, use existing DUI laws(which generally cover any form of impairment), but improve testing, and we're good to go on that front.
 
2014-07-27 05:34:43 PM

Stone Meadow: ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. (pun intended) I'd hoped he'd do it after getting elected the first time. And then after the 2010 midterms. And then after getting reelected. Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.


Unlikely.  Consider what he said about targeting states with legal marijuana when he was elected, and then the following DEA raids in California at legal dispensaries.
 
2014-07-27 05:38:46 PM
Poor reflex time, very bad lane drift.

I call bullshiat. I know alot of very heavy habitual smokers and they all drive just fine. Perhaps occasional users or lightweights might suffer from anxiety/paranoia causing reduced driving ability but regular smokers aren't impaired at all.
 
2014-07-27 05:40:42 PM
Dammit, who the high holy fark voted smart for worlddan?  We know it was you, worlddan.
 
2014-07-27 05:41:30 PM

bhcompy: Stone Meadow: ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. (pun intended) I'd hoped he'd do it after getting elected the first time. And then after the 2010 midterms. And then after getting reelected. Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.

Unlikely.  Consider what he said about targeting states with legal marijuana when he was elected, and then the following DEA raids in California at legal dispensaries.


Although after he said he considers it less dangerous than alcohol there is some hope.
 
2014-07-27 05:41:31 PM

bhcompy: Stone Meadow: ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. (pun intended) I'd hoped he'd do it after getting elected the first time. And then after the 2010 midterms. And then after getting reelected. Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.

Unlikely.  Consider what he said about targeting states with legal marijuana when he was elected, and then the following DEA raids in California at legal dispensaries.


Yeah, there's that, too. So I guess we're back where we started. The President won't expend any political capital. The Feds will continue to do whatever the fark they wake up that morning and feel like doing. What the heck, maybe having the NYT feature a series of well written op-ed pieces might do the trick. Sure as shiat, Congress won't on their own.
 
2014-07-27 05:49:06 PM

stuhayes2010: gophurt: Okay, which mod is asleep at the wheel and keeps greenlighting articles where the Fark Headline is the EXACT SAME as the actual article headline.

Headlines don't always have to be funny.


Yes they do. It's in the rules.
 
2014-07-27 05:50:36 PM

stuhayes2010: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

We already are drugging ourselves. "Everybody" is on Zoloft, Xanax, oxi, etc and no congressman bats an eye.


I'm not.  I haven't had a prescription in about 5 years and that was an antibiotic.  You'd have to go back 15 years to find any prescription drug I've had that could used recreationally and even then the prescription only lasted for a week.

I've known a couple of people who have had prescriptions for Xanax.  They basically used it recreationally, IMO.  One of them used to share them with me when we were out drinking.  I can't imagine though - Hey, doc.  I get nervous sometimes, can I have some benzos?

I went to the ER once and a nurse had a really bad attitude towards me.  He decided I was a drug seeker right off the bat because I said I was in pain and there wasn't a knife sticking out of my chest.  The doctor was about to give me a shot of morphine, but the nurse pulled the doctor aside and then they asked me to piss in a cup.  Happy, nurse dude?  Yeah, I told you I smoked pot and that's the only drug you found when you tested my piss, asshole.  I swear to god, the only reason I didn't rip his lungs out was because I actually was in so much pain.

I can't imagine asking a doctor for Xanax or anything like that even though I'm probably a good candidate for such a drug.  Part of it is because I don't want to be seen as a drug seeker and part of it is because I hear benzo addiction is a real biatch.  Like Jack Nicholson said in Easy Rider, "I've got enough problems with the booze and all."

So I abuse alcohol and use marijuana - I don't think my marijuana use actually rises to the level of abuse though.

Prohibition is a nice idea - if it worked.  I think society would be much better off if people didn't drink.  I'm sure I would be.  The problem is, it can't work.  Stop the sale and legal production of alcohol in the US and within a week I'll be googling bathtub gin and so will millions of others.  We'll become criminals.  Some of us will sell and buy it from the black market.

We've also proved that we can't stop people from growing pot or even making meth.  Regulate it and tax it.  Offer people help.  This prohibition shiat ain't working.  If people have problems abusing drugs, it should be considered a medical issue, not a legal one.
 
2014-07-27 05:51:27 PM

Stone Meadow: Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.


That would be the best.
 
2014-07-27 05:51:57 PM

GilRuiz1: In the future, when marijuana has been legal for decades, I wonder who will be playing the part of the Big Tobacco companies who will be sued for twisting people's arms into smoking and creating addicts.  This is going to be fun to watch.


Thaaattt's not really why the tobacco companies got sued.
 
2014-07-27 05:58:10 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Stone Meadow: Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.

That would be the best.


Just imagine Obama coming out for a presser about his new Executive Order (which nobody knows what it will be). He walks up to the podium with  joint hanging out of his mouth. "Ladies and Gentlemen, of the United States of America, I have issued an Executive Order that immediately legalizes Marijuana in the United States on the Federal Level. It is now up to the states to decide their own actions of legalization and sale *COUGH COUGH COUGH* Sorry, I was trying something given to me by the Head of our new Department of Cannibs, Mr. Calvin Broadus. Also have you noticed how bright these lights are, and how cool this little tele screen thingy is?"

The next day the Republican candidate for Pres in 2016 would be on TV.

"I PROMISE IF I'M ELECTED I WILL REPEAL OBAMA'S END OF MARIJUANA PROHIBITION."

And that would put the nail in the coffin for that candidate.
 
2014-07-27 05:59:49 PM
 "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. "
George Santayana
 
2014-07-27 06:06:09 PM
zulius:

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2014-07-27 06:07:32 PM

Mad_Radhu: zulius:

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I am always reminded of those macabre photos taken with dressed up and posed corpses.
 
2014-07-27 06:08:21 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I wonder if we could see it happen through an executive order after November. Obama has nothing to lose on this one. And everybody knows that he smokes those jazz cigarettes, anyway.

Marcus Aurelius: FoonFlake: Me thinks this was part of the plan...

It was originally designed to target Mexicans, but it worked just as well on black people and hippies.

I'd really like to know some real numbers as to who are the biggest pot smokers. My guess is white people. Lots and lots of white people smoke pot.


It's the tough part of the law. Research supports that there may be more Caucasian marijuana smokers, however, if caught/arrested, Caucasians are more likely to get a fine/more lenient penalty. African-American/Hispanic are more likely to get initial and extended jail time and are definitely less likely to be put into the Drug Court system for the same offense. There's also research supporting that African-Americans are more likely to be involved in precontextual stops (i.e. tail light is out, didn't put on blinker far enough in advance of turn).

You want to see some good old fashion racism though, try to find some of the things that Anslinger used to say in speeches to get people hyped toward a marijuana ban.
 
2014-07-27 06:10:10 PM

Professor Farksworth: ecmoRandomNumbers: Stone Meadow: Maybe he'll do it just to troll the GOP.

That would be the best.

Just imagine Obama coming out for a presser about his new Executive Order (which nobody knows what it will be). He walks up to the podium with  joint hanging out of his mouth. "Ladies and Gentlemen, of the United States of America, I have issued an Executive Order that immediately legalizes Marijuana in the United States on the Federal Level. It is now up to the states to decide their own actions of legalization and sale *COUGH COUGH COUGH* Sorry, I was trying something given to me by the Head of our new Department of Cannibs, Mr. Calvin Broadus. Also have you noticed how bright these lights are, and how cool this little tele screen thingy is?"

The next day the Republican candidate for Pres in 2016 would be on TV.

"I PROMISE IF I'M ELECTED I WILL REPEAL OBAMA'S END OF MARIJUANA PROHIBITION."

And that would put the nail in the coffin for that candidate.


Actually, the Tea-tard backlash of a black man legalizing weed might be why we haven't done it. Just distracts from more important things.
 
2014-07-27 06:11:33 PM

give me doughnuts: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

You know what didn't go up when Portugal decriminalized all drugs?

Drug use.


Because the experience of a culturally homogenous population of 10 million will be exactly replicated in a culturally heterogeneous society 30X its size.


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2014-07-27 06:16:37 PM

worlddan: give me doughnuts: worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.

You know what didn't go up when Portugal decriminalized all drugs?

Drug use.

Because the experience of a culturally homogenous population of 10 million will be exactly replicated in a culturally heterogeneous society 30X its size.


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worlddan: No, the real solution is to reinstall prohibition for alcohol. But that will never happen.  So we might as well go wild and legalize everything and let America drug itself into the oblivion of history.


img.fark.net
 
2014-07-27 06:18:39 PM
anyone making brownies right now?
 
2014-07-27 06:20:16 PM

hardinparamedic: Marijuana is deadlier than Ebola, HIV, and Bruce Lee combined. Only one hit will cause death. These are absolute facts.


I once got close to someone smoking pot and got hit in the face by Bruce Lee's elbow.
 
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