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(Huffington Post)   The good news is that you probably don't have celiac disease. The bad news is you're a hypochondriac   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 175
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2014-07-27 02:43:57 PM  
I'll put it this way: I'm a stutterer, and we also comprise 1 percent of the population. I bet you probably know many people who claim they're celiac, but how many stutterers do you know?

It would really suck to be a celiac stutterer--it's virtually impossible to order a single tuna sandwich.
 
2014-07-27 02:44:08 PM  
ZOMG GLUTEN!!1!!!1!!


/idiots
 
2014-07-27 02:45:18 PM  

BeerLion: elysive: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

Cutting food out of one's diet might help weight loss? No farkin' way!

Close minded is close minded.  Another FARK expert.  Rice Pasta instead of traditional, corn tortillas instead of wheat, a gluten free pizza crust instead of normal etc.  It's easy enough to do and there is no downside I can think of. I have tried it but I like my breads more than I liked losing weight.

/I lost 8 pounds for the month I did it.
//Didn't change exercise habits or portions


Btw--the down side of the foods you describe (all junk foods in every iteration) is reduced fiber. Good luck to those who take your advice and want to keep shiatting.
 
2014-07-27 02:45:18 PM  

EVERYBODY PANIC: Farking Canuck: Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.

Interesting approach to topical matters.

I do have a condition. I'm diabetic. It is certainly genetic, and it ravages us all in my family. And yet, I recognize a definite, provable relationship between diabetes and grain consumption. Celiac be damned, I contend with about 20 years of observations that diabetes is a grain related condition. I anticipate serious disagreement from others here at fark.com, but using your stated gold standard, if they are not themselves diabetic, regardless of their level of education or expertise, I can haughtily dismiss them as dicks. Cool!

Regarding your comment above, my being a diabetic somehow gives me clout in discussing the matter which exceeds the foolish opinions of those pesky medical professionals. I'm a god!

/If only this rule applied in the Politics Tab, the world would be a better place. Thanks Canuck!


Actually, grains DO contribute to Diabetes. But, it has nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with the high concentration of complex carbohydrates, and to a larger degree, the added sugars in processed bread and pastas. The reason for the added sugar? To balance out the removal of the flavor from the milling and bleaching processes.

Still, even a diabetic can't go completely without grains. Sticking with whole grains, with no added sugars, is the best policy for those times you eat bread or pasta. Also, avoid products made from potatoes, and sauces made with white flour.
 
2014-07-27 02:46:18 PM  
Fat boy on a diet. Don't try it. I'll check yo ass like a looter in a riot.
 
2014-07-27 02:46:21 PM  
elysive:. There are lots of ways to lose weight on diets (few of them sustainable) but removing a food group from your diet is one really easy way.

Wheat isn't a food group and my father and sister still eat plenty of grains.  They just avoid wheat, barley and rye.
 
2014-07-27 02:46:54 PM  

PanicMan: Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.


Might be something related to a carbohydrate intolerance (see low-FODMAP diet for details).  It's often mistaken for gluten intolerance because some of the same foods trigger IBS symptoms.
 
2014-07-27 02:47:45 PM  
As someone who HAS Celiac I've heard it all. I was sick and I mean sick for 15 years with a few doctors without doing one test. I heard everything from your lazy and eating wrong EAT MORE GRAINS which of course just made it worse. To your crazy we need to send you to a shrink.

I made fun of the gluten free and peanut allergy people too. But I don't make a big deal out of it. I still go the same restaurants I'm just careful and what I order. I don't act like a a**hole and make a stink!

Finally found a doctor who first had me keep a food diary for a month then put me on a very restrictive diet. He slowly had me add foods back and when I had a reaction he had tests preformed. It could have been a milk allergy for all I knew I was surprised that I had Celiac Disease.

No one would think of going up to someone with cancer and telling them that they're crazy. People who had cancer hundreds of years ago were probably called crazy too until medical science caught up.

Just because it's not you doesn't mean it's not real.
 
2014-07-27 02:48:11 PM  

mongbiohazard: PanicMan: Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: "Gluten Intolerance" pretty much appeared out of nowhere a couple years ago. What's afoot are buzzwords and the placebo effect.

Or maybe people were having a reaction and didn't know the term to describe it.  Or what foods to consider avoiding.

Celiac is a real thing... but so are the placebo and nocebo effects. In a large population you will always have a certain percentage who are susceptible to suggestion and irrationality.

Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World he has a whole chapter which talks about how every time something airs on TV about aliens people in the region it aired suddenly have a spike in alien reports. And when something about aliens is popularized suddenly those reports change in detail to match what was aired on TV also. Like people used to report "little green men" but after the Roswell myths with grey, elongated, skinny aliens came out all of a sudden people's reports mysteriously and suddenly changed to match that new, popularized fictional vision.

It isn't that there were so many aliens flying around out there abducting people that no one had the words to describe them all, it's that there's a percentage of the population who is now going to make up shiat that matches the stuff they saw on TV. That's just a fact when you live in a society.

So celiac disease is real, and it sucks to have it, but that's not why a lot of other low information people are going to claim they have it. Gluten has been demonized by a lot of folks out to make a buck, and now a lot of people have convinced themselves they have an intolerance to it not because they actually do, or even have any idea what they're talking about, but instead because they are susceptible to suggestion. Hence him noting that the woman drinks beer, which has gluten in it, and wouldn't eat risotto which doesn't. If she really had Celiac she would have known better... THAT'S how you can tell without being a doctor... Like in the tales of King Soloman, sometime ...


memecrunch.com

We aren't green or grey, Hooman.
 
2014-07-27 02:48:40 PM  

BeerLion: elysive:. There are lots of ways to lose weight on diets (few of them sustainable) but removing a food group from your diet is one really easy way.

Wheat isn't a food group and my father and sister still eat plenty of grains.  They just avoid wheat, barley and rye.


I guess I should have said "group of foods".
 
2014-07-27 02:49:12 PM  

HalfOffOffer: yes lots of people have a wheat intolerance due to the GMO frankenwheat that is in everything.


I can't help but be curious.  How would your answer change if there were no GMO wheat in commercial production anywhere in the world?
 
2014-07-27 02:50:34 PM  

BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal


You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?
 
2014-07-27 02:50:46 PM  

elysive: alternaloser: the bad news is i actually have it.
/the good news is after my diagnosis i lost 40 pounds in 3 months
//feel a lot better too

I didn't know that Celiacs absorbed food well enough to get overweight.

/learn something new every day


Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me either, but I can't argue with the results.
 
2014-07-27 02:51:02 PM  

HalfOffOffer: yes lots of people have a wheat intolerance due to the GMO frankenwheat that is in everything.


No, they don't.
 
2014-07-27 02:52:41 PM  

BeerLion: elysive: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

Cutting food out of one's diet might help weight loss? No farkin' way!

Close minded is close minded.  Another FARK expert.  Rice Pasta instead of traditional, corn tortillas instead of wheat, a gluten free pizza crust instead of normal etc.  It's easy enough to do and there is no downside I can think of. I have tried it but I like my breads more than I liked losing weight.

/I lost 8 pounds for the month I did it.
//Didn't change exercise habits or portions


Those foods tend to be lower in calories though. Just as an example, corn tortillas have 20 less calories per ounce than wheat. So no one is doubting they lost weight on a gluten free diet, just the actual mechanism.
 
2014-07-27 02:52:58 PM  

Gary-L: PanicMan: Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: "Gluten Intolerance" pretty much appeared out of nowhere a couple years ago. What's afoot are buzzwords and the placebo effect.

Or maybe people were having a reaction and didn't know the term to describe it.  Or what foods to consider avoiding.


Case in point: For years, stomach ulcers were considered to be a dietary (alcohol) and/or stress related issue until a doctor hypothesized they were actually caused by bacteria.  His paper was ridiculed until he performed tests and started treating people with proper medication.


And he was getting so little traction that his initial test was knocking back a vial of helicobacter to prove that it gave him ulcers. Lose/Win, I guess? Proved that he was right in a manner that was pretty damn unpleasant for him.

/or, as they were known, "the glory days of research"
//have no doubt that celiac is real
///even less doubt that a decent number of "I can't have gluten" snowflakes are faking it to feel special
 
2014-07-27 02:54:49 PM  

Loreweaver: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?


Yeah I'm sure I read that people tend to gain weight after transitioning to gluten free because the alternate breads are made of rice, corn, and/or potato that has more calories in it.  Your mileage may vary of course.
 
2014-07-27 02:57:19 PM  

I'm_out_of_popcorn: My mom is allergic to wheat. She was happy at first when they started making all these gluten free things. Then she figured out it's all junk food. She doesn't see the the point to it anymore.


I'm helping to host a party and offered to look into gluten free foods because I've invited 2 people who are celiac. I've noticed that the majority of gluten free food/catering is for baked goods. Looked at some gluten free meals and realized it was basic food just without flour/bread/other grains etc.
 
2014-07-27 03:14:06 PM  
With me, it was my liver that was out of order.  I knew it was my liver
that was out of order, because I had just been reading a patent
liver-pill circular, in which were detailed the various symptoms by which
a man could tell when his liver was out of order.  I had them all.

It is a most extraordinary thing, but I never read a patent medicine
advertisement without being impelled to the conclusion that I am
suffering from the particular disease therein dealt with in its most
virulent form.  The diagnosis seems in every case to correspond exactly
with all the sensations that I have ever felt.

I remember going to the British Museum one
day to read up the treatment for some slight ailment of which I had a
touch-hay fever, I fancy it was.  I got down the book, and read all I
came to read; and then, in an unthinking moment, I idly turned the
leaves, and began to indolently study diseases, generally.  I forget
which was the first distemper I plunged into-some fearful, devastating
scourge, I know-and, before I had glanced half down the list of
"premonitory symptoms," it was borne in upon me that I had fairly got it.

I sat for awhile, frozen with horror; and then, in the listlessness of
despair, I again turned over the pages.  I came to typhoid fever-read the
symptoms-discovered that I had typhoid fever, must have had it for months
without knowing it-wondered what else I had got; turned up St. Vitus's
Dance-found, as I expected, that I had that too,-began to get interested
in my case, and determined to sift it to the bottom, and so started
alphabetically-read up ague, and learnt that I was sickening for it, and
that the acute stage would commence in about another fortnight.  Bright's
disease, I was relieved to find, I had only in a modified form, and, so
far as that was concerned, I might live for years.  Cholera I had, with
severe complications; and diphtheria I seemed to have been born with.  I
plodded conscientiously through the twenty-six letters, and the only
malady I could conclude I had not got was housemaid's knee.

I felt rather hurt about this at first; it seemed somehow to be a sort of
slight.  Why hadn't I got housemaid's knee?  Why this invidious
reservation?  After a while, however, less grasping feelings prevailed.
I reflected that I had every other known malady in the pharmacology, and
I grew less selfish, and determined to do without housemaid's knee.
Gout, in its most malignant stage, it would appear, had seized me without
my being aware of it; and zymosis I had evidently been suffering with
from boyhood.  There were no more diseases after zymosis, so I concluded
there was nothing else the matter with me.
 
2014-07-27 03:14:20 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: Ha. I am actually in the midst of writing a feature article about gluten-free beverages.


a "feature article"?

Just stop right now.
 
2014-07-27 03:15:08 PM  
The whole business with allergies is ripe with bullshiat and precious little snowflake millennial douchebags trying to be hip and unique and force the world around them to bend and cave in to their demands because the world and everybody in it owes them something. Peanuts, shrimp, fish, tomatoes, gluten, cigarettes, sunlight, etc, exist in such a very small percentage of people but you would think everybody has it now and it's killing people like atomic bombs going off.

We used to fly in planes during daylight and could smoke a cigarette while eating our bag of honey roasted peanuts and drinking a beer without half the population of the planet dropping dead. If your flight had a meal and it consisted of seafood you could simply not order that and life would go on.True story, kiddos.

STFU and DIAF with your so called alleged allergies you hypochondriac attention whores.

To the very small and tiny 1% of the population with actual real allergies, my apologies and thank you for those of you old enough to just avoid the things you were allergic to instead of making a big stink of it like the millennial vermin do these days.
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2014-07-27 03:20:19 PM  

Dragonflew: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

Did they stop eating junk food all the time and start preparing their own healthy meals to go gluten free?


Not sure. The population I deal with these days is mostly impaired in the first place.
And the population of persons with various and sundry Genetic Lottery Awards has been trending larger for some decades.
But advantage, total control of their diet and 24/7 observation reports. There are a lot of compounded medicaments also in the mix.
Any way you you want it,
Conclusion: we need a lot more information, SURPRISE!
 
2014-07-27 03:23:06 PM  
You're a hypochondriac.  Stop looking up diseases and symptoms on the internet.  You didn't go to 4 years of medical school, you don't know what you're talking about.  Now, trust me, your doctor, while I prescribe you these anti-depressants and ADHD medication...
 
2014-07-27 03:23:25 PM  

elysive: I didn't know that Celiacs absorbed food well enough to get overweight.

/learn something new every day


It isn't quite that simple.  Celiac screws with absorption, but it isn't in a specific way.  I'm (still) overweight, though I've been losing steadily since my diagnosis (better lifestyle, it isn't the lack of gluten doing it), but my issues with absorption weren't caloric, I was dangerously low on B12 and pretty low on a few other markers, and I'd developed pretty severe lactose intolerance (which vanished after about 3 weeks of going gluten-free).

Gluten-free isn't a health diet, unless you've got celiac or something.  If someone's having intestinal troubles and they can't figure out why they feel like shiat all the time, I often suggest going gluten-free for a couple weeks because it's an easy and safe thing to check, but I'd never recommend it to someone for weight loss or general health.  Unless you have an issue with gluten, it does nothing.
 
2014-07-27 03:30:52 PM  

moeburn: You're a hypochondriac.  Stop looking up diseases and symptoms on the internet.  You didn't go to 4 years of medical school, you don't know what you're talking about.  Now, trust me, your doctor, while I prescribe you these anti-depressants and ADHD medication...


BTW, 4th year Med Students are THE WORST hypochondriacs on the planet.
And their self-med consumption supports that.
 
2014-07-27 03:32:22 PM  

elysive: alternaloser: the bad news is i actually have it.
/the good news is after my diagnosis i lost 40 pounds in 3 months
//feel a lot better too

I didn't know that Celiacs absorbed food well enough to get overweight.

/learn something new every day


Celiac disease mainly inhibits the absorption of iron, calcium, and vitamin D. You can still get plenty fat without those.
 
2014-07-27 03:37:56 PM  

HalfOffOffer: In related news, fibromyalgia isn't real. I know this because I don't have it. Everyone who claims to have it is just making it up.


My mom says the same thing about depression and her daughter is on disability for it

Amish Tech Support: The pain in my chest dissipated within 20 minutes. It was so bizarre. It was all in my head.


When I was in school there was a woman who thought she had every disease in our textbook. She had to take a semester off

RoxtarRyan: It's like people not saying they have cancer, but say they have cells that are "non-malignant intolerant", so they shave their heads and get chemotherapy because they're attention whores.


A woman I work with has a mother that has a diagnosis of facticious disorder and facticious disorder by proxy. When my co-worker was little her mom shaved her own head and told people she had prostate cancer.
 
2014-07-27 03:38:33 PM  

LV426: Just because it's not you doesn't mean it's not real.


As many people have already pointed out, no one is claiming it isn't real. It's just that most people who claim to be gluten intolerant are lying attention whores.
 
2014-07-27 03:41:45 PM  

Loreweaver: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?


Seems like a great way to lose weight if so but I don't exactly know why it i as most gluten free substitutes are actually higher in calories than regular,  i just know that whatever the mechanism it has worked wonders on my families health.
 
2014-07-27 03:45:49 PM  

BeerLion: Loreweaver: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?

Seems like a great way to lose weight if so but I don't exactly know why it i as most gluten free substitutes are actually higher in calories than regular,  i just know that whatever the mechanism it has worked wonders on my families health.


Carbohydrates carry a log of calories.  Most junk food is made of carbs.  If you remove wheat from your diet, most junk food is also removed from your diet.

Not exactly shocking.
 
2014-07-27 03:49:00 PM  

rohar: BeerLion: Loreweaver: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?

Seems like a great way to lose weight if so but I don't exactly know why it i as most gluten free substitutes are actually higher in calories than regular,  i just know that whatever the mechanism it has worked wonders on my families health.

Carbohydrates carry a log of calories.  Most junk food is made of carbs.  If you remove wheat from your diet, most junk food is also removed from your diet.

Not exactly shocking.


They will never take my doritos.
 
2014-07-27 03:54:11 PM  

moeburn: rohar: BeerLion: Loreweaver: BeerLion: My Father and my sister have both lost over 70 pounds each in a little over a year by doing nothing different but going gluten free.

/anecdotal

You do realize their weight loss had nothing to do with gluten, and everything to do with them cutting back on processed white bread and pasta, which have lots of added sugar and calories?

Seems like a great way to lose weight if so but I don't exactly know why it i as most gluten free substitutes are actually higher in calories than regular,  i just know that whatever the mechanism it has worked wonders on my families health.

Carbohydrates carry a log of calories.  Most junk food is made of carbs.  If you remove wheat from your diet, most junk food is also removed from your diet.

Not exactly shocking.

They will never take my doritos.


I grew up with a misdiagnosis of celiac.  You have no idea how my life changed when we finally figured it out, and I could eat Doritos.  When that day came, I finally understood the idea of "born again".  It was breathtaking.  Even remembering it, all these years later, it brings a tear to my eye.

/don't event get me started on pizza
//still make pancakes with rice flour.  They're better.  Seriously.
 
2014-07-27 03:54:52 PM  
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2014-07-27 03:56:18 PM  

Nowhereman: HalfOffOffer: In related news, fibromyalgia isn't real. I know this because I don't have it. Everyone who claims to have it is just making it up.

My mom says the same thing about depression and her daughter is on disability for it

Amish Tech Support: The pain in my chest dissipated within 20 minutes. It was so bizarre. It was all in my head.

When I was in school there was a woman who thought she had every disease in our textbook. She had to take a semester off

RoxtarRyan: It's like people not saying they have cancer, but say they have cells that are "non-malignant intolerant", so they shave their heads and get chemotherapy because they're attention whores.

A woman I work with has a mother that has a diagnosis of facticious disorder and facticious disorder by proxy. When my co-worker was little her mom shaved her own head and told people she had prostate cancer.


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First thing I thought of
 
2014-07-27 04:04:37 PM  

rohar: I grew up with a misdiagnosis of celiac. You have no idea how my life changed when we finally figured it out, and I could eat Doritos. When that day came, I finally understood the idea of "born again". It was breathtaking. Even remembering it, all these years later, it brings a tear to my eye.


What did you actually have?
 
2014-07-27 04:06:02 PM  

Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.


Your mothers case sounds legitimate.

Unlike the vast majority of others.
 
2014-07-27 04:07:47 PM  
As someone who actually has family members with celiac I understand the frustration. The fact is, they rarely if ever eat out because cooks don't understand how sensitive the issue is. Wheat is in farking everything and if you're highly allergic it contaminates everything very easily. Most restaurants that claim to have gluten-free dishes are not actually gluten-free. As witnessed by life-threatening dierra and vomiting from eating at these places.

Yes, I agree many people who think they have celiac do not actually have it but it is a real problem.
 
2014-07-27 04:11:49 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Farking Canuck: Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.

If you had Celiacs, you'd know it. It isn't "mild discomfort", it is a life threatening condition. Having dated a girl for a couple years (lived with her for a while as well) and learned how to cook for someone with Celiacs, you appreciate how hard life is for them, how every little decision they make when it comes to food and drink can either allow them to feel normal, or send them to the hospital.

For others who heard about gluten from some shiat for brains asshole like Doctor Oz and think it is trendy to play make believe and they have Celiacs also, makes me want to remove their ability to procreate. I've met too many assholes who claim to have "gluten intolerance" and play the "I'm a precious snowflake" card at restaurants to seem hip and trendy, but they have a kitchen and pantry full of gluten-containing food products. When called out on it, they claim they didn't know those foods had gluten in them. They pretty much live a public life of "gluten intolerance" to make the lives of others more difficult and to draw attention to themselves, plain and simple.

It's like people not saying they have cancer, but say they have cells that are  "non-malignant intolerant", so they shave their heads and get chemotherapy because they're attention whores.


To be fair, there are neurologists who ask patients who are prone to frequent seizures to stop eating wheat/gluten because--and I wish I was making this up--that treatment approach has been proven to lessen the frequency of seizures in dogs. It's also been shown over the past 5 years or so to be effective in treating humans with "refractory" (seizures that are uncontrolled with medication) epilepsy.

My own neurologists have asked me to radically decrease the amount of wheat/gluten I consume, and yes, it does help dramatically in terms of frequency of seizures as well as overall "brain fog." There's also a noticeable difference for me when I do eat more wheat/gluten versus when I do not.

But no, I'm not allergic or intolerant. I simply avoid eating gluten-rich foods as much as possible. It won't kill me or (necessarily--unless I cannot stop seizing) hospitalize me if I do eat wheat or gluten, but I know that the consequences if I do are a bit of "brain fog" and/or the probability of having more seizures until it's out of my system. It's entirely up to me to make the choice whether or not those consequences are worth it--and sometimes (fresh Irish soda bread, freshly baked bread), they are totally worth it.

But it's completely unfair to state that the only reason people should avoid gluten is because they are Celiacs (which is a horrible disease and sucks for those who have it and anyone claiming to have it when they don't should be biatchslapped). It's also completely untrue--there are other valid medical reasons why a doctor might put a patient on a dietary restriction from wheat and gluten that have nothing to do with hypochondria, and everything to do with keeping them alive (epilepsy can be fatal if a patient cannot stop seizing--that's why it's generally advisable to call 911 if someone has a seizure or series of seizures that does not stop).
 
2014-07-27 04:19:51 PM  

DemonEater: rohar: I grew up with a misdiagnosis of celiac. You have no idea how my life changed when we finally figured it out, and I could eat Doritos. When that day came, I finally understood the idea of "born again". It was breathtaking. Even remembering it, all these years later, it brings a tear to my eye.

What did you actually have?


A sore tummy for a few days?
 
2014-07-27 04:19:51 PM  

rohar: I grew up with a misdiagnosis of celiac.  You have no idea how my life changed when we finally figured it out, and I could eat Doritos.



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At least in Canada, a lot of varieties of Doritos are definitely certified gluten-free.  So I'm not sure what you're saying; were you incorrectly diagnosed as having celiac, and you were thankful you could eat Doritos again now that you knew you weren't?  Cause they're gluten-free, and you didn't have to give them up in the first place.

True of at least the Nacho and Zesty Cheese versions, that I know of (Nacho bag above)
 
2014-07-27 04:23:43 PM  

Aigoo: RoxtarRyan: Farking Canuck: Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.

If you had Celiacs, you'd know it. It isn't "mild discomfort", it is a life threatening condition. Having dated a girl for a couple years (lived with her for a while as well) and learned how to cook for someone with Celiacs, you appreciate how hard life is for them, how every little decision they make when it comes to food and drink can either allow them to feel normal, or send them to the hospital.

For others who heard about gluten from some shiat for brains asshole like Doctor Oz and think it is trendy to play make believe and they have Celiacs also, makes me want to remove their ability to procreate. I've met too many assholes who claim to have "gluten intolerance" and play the "I'm a precious snowflake" card at restaurants to seem hip and trendy, but they have a kitchen and pantry full of gluten-containing food products. When called out on it, they claim they didn't know those foods had gluten in them. They pretty much live a public life of "gluten intolerance" to make the lives of others more difficult and to draw attention to themselves, plain and simple.

It's like people not saying they have cancer, but say they have cells that are  "non-malignant intolerant", so they shave their heads and get chemotherapy because they're attention whores.

To be fair, there are neurologists who ask patients who are prone to frequent seizures to stop eating wheat/gluten because--and I wish I was making this up--that treatment approach has been proven to lessen the frequency of seizures in dogs. It's also been shown over the past 5 years or so to be effective in treating humans with "refractory" (seizures that are uncontrolled with medication) epilepsy.

My own neurologists have asked me to radically decrease the amount of wheat/gluten I consume, and yes, it does help dramatically in terms of frequency of seizures as well as overall "brain fog. ...


According to  http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/epilepsy/detail_epilepsy.htm  , the gluten-epilepsy link is only there if the patient is already intolerant to gluten.
 
2014-07-27 04:26:41 PM  
The absolutely only way to be sure you have celiac/coeliac disease is a blood test followed by biopsy. If you self-diagnose then the chances are you don't.

That said, anyone who has suffered chronic digestive issues, fatigue etc. should probably buy a blood test kit or ask their GP and find out.
 
2014-07-27 04:31:36 PM  

DemonEater: rohar: I grew up with a misdiagnosis of celiac. You have no idea how my life changed when we finally figured it out, and I could eat Doritos. When that day came, I finally understood the idea of "born again". It was breathtaking. Even remembering it, all these years later, it brings a tear to my eye.

What did you actually have?


I'm going to guess "parents with Münchausen syndrome by proxy."

/considering all the other horrifying things such people sometimes latch onto for their ailments of choice for their kids, celiac misdiagnoses probably saved lives
//as has Facebook, providing a relatively harmless and occasionally amusing outlet for attention whoring
 
2014-07-27 04:42:08 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.

That's a good way to be certain, but it's not so good after the fact. The trick is that the gut biopsy is how you conclusively show it. The blood test says maybe you COULD have it. But, and here's the fun part, for the gut biopsy to work, you have to be eating gluten for a couple months before it. If you were feeling bad, you heard about the gluten nonsense, stopped eating gluten and felt a lot better, now the biopsy won't show anything. I know one person in that situation. She's had the blood test, and she'd love for the doctor to be able to tell her that she has Celiac so she doesn't feel like she's lying to everyone, but as bad as it was, she's not willing to eat gluten for another couple months.


That's a very creative twist on "why I know I'm sick but they can't prove it." if it's so important, suck it up and eat gluten for a couple of months.
 
2014-07-27 05:00:02 PM  
I saw a package of tea today that proclaimed on its box that it was gluten free.
My palm nearly went out the back of my head.
 
2014-07-27 05:05:47 PM  

addy2: I May Be Crazy But...: Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.

That's a good way to be certain, but it's not so good after the fact. The trick is that the gut biopsy is how you conclusively show it. The blood test says maybe you COULD have it. But, and here's the fun part, for the gut biopsy to work, you have to be eating gluten for a couple months before it. If you were feeling bad, you heard about the gluten nonsense, stopped eating gluten and felt a lot better, now the biopsy won't show anything. I know one person in that situation. She's had the blood test, and she'd love for the doctor to be able to tell her that she has Celiac so she doesn't feel like she's lying to everyone, but as bad as it was, she's not willing to eat gluten for another couple months.

That's a very creative twist on "why I know I'm sick but they can't prove it." if it's so important, suck it up and eat gluten for a couple of months.


Go back to feeling like absolute shiat for three months so you can get a doctor to tell you to stop eating the stuff you'd already stopped eating before you started eating it again just so you could get the doctor to tell you to stop eating it?

On what planet does that make sense?
 
2014-07-27 05:06:36 PM  
I have an aunt who claims to be gluten intolerant. I don't know if it is self-diagnosed or something she has actually seen a doctor about, but since she is generally a decent person I give her the benefit of the doubt. The only problem I had with her was when she decided that my younger daughter's developmental delays were caused by gluten, despite the fact that said daughter was born by emergency C-section after having the cord wrapped around her neck and deprived of oxygen.

I already have enough issues with the kid. Now I'm supposed to tell her that she can't have all of the foods that she loves, like pizza and pb&j sandwiches and spaghetti, just because someone has mirrored their own issues on to a child? I mean christ, we're talking about behavior and learning issues, not digestion. (Well, there are times that she can clear a room with her farts, but that is usually bean related, not wheat.) The only thing I've been able to do is thank her for the information, and tell her I'll look into it, because I don't want to be a biatch about it. *sigh*
 
2014-07-27 05:08:35 PM  

SilentStrider: I saw a package of tea today that proclaimed on its box that it was gluten free.
My palm nearly went out the back of my head.


Steak! Now Gluten Free!

I always loved all the candy packages loudly proclaiming, "A Fat-Free Snack!". No shiat, the only ingredients are sugar, sugar, more sugar, and artificial flavoring.
 
2014-07-27 05:09:37 PM  

Iggie: I have an aunt who claims to be gluten intolerant. I don't know if it is self-diagnosed or something she has actually seen a doctor about, but since she is generally a decent person I give her the benefit of the doubt. The only problem I had with her was when she decided that my younger daughter's developmental delays were caused by gluten, despite the fact that said daughter was born by emergency C-section after having the cord wrapped around her neck and deprived of oxygen.

I already have enough issues with the kid. Now I'm supposed to tell her that she can't have all of the foods that she loves, like pizza and pb&j sandwiches and spaghetti, just because someone has mirrored their own issues on to a child? I mean christ, we're talking about behavior and learning issues, not digestion. (Well, there are times that she can clear a room with her farts, but that is usually bean related, not wheat.) The only thing I've been able to do is thank her for the information, and tell her I'll look into it, because I don't want to be a biatch about it. *sigh*


Your aunt sounds well intentioned but stupid.
 
2014-07-27 05:17:18 PM  

Bonobo62: addy2: I May Be Crazy But...: Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.

That's a good way to be certain, but it's not so good after the fact. The trick is that the gut biopsy is how you conclusively show it. The blood test says maybe you COULD have it. But, and here's the fun part, for the gut biopsy to work, you have to be eating gluten for a couple months before it. If you were feeling bad, you heard about the gluten nonsense, stopped eating gluten and felt a lot better, now the biopsy won't show anything. I know one person in that situation. She's had the blood test, and she'd love for the doctor to be able to tell her that she has Celiac so she doesn't feel like she's lying to everyone, but as bad as it was, she's not willing to eat gluten for another couple months.

That's a very creative twist on "why I know I'm sick but they can't prove it." if it's so important, suck it up and eat gluten for a couple of months.

Go back to feeling like absolute shiat for three months so you can get a doctor to tell you to stop eating the stuff you'd already stopped eating before you started eating it again just so you could get the doctor to tell you to stop eating it?

On what planet does that make sense?


It makes sense if you're whining that no one believes you. Till then she's just like everyone else who's self diagnosing.
 
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