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2014-07-27 09:48:13 AM  
I am not ready to dismiss the "intolerance" out of hand. True, "real" celiac disease is very rare. With SEVERE malnutrition as the problem, not "Gee, I don't feel good."
But, medically, we have no "real" investigation of intolerance. Unless you are willing to accept the Monsanto agenda laden "stuff". Humans usually display a spectrum of sensitivity and intolerance (mild to severe) rather than black/white reactions.
I find far too many patients with anecdotal reports of improvement in quality of life. We have dealt with hypochondria since decent record keeping began. Some of the alarm is due to hypochondria.
But there is something new afoot.
 
2014-07-27 01:09:32 PM  
So we're allowed to be intolerant towards gluten, but not gay marriage?

I see how it is, libs.
 
2014-07-27 01:12:55 PM  
What kind of doctor is this guy?
 
2014-07-27 01:12:58 PM  
... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.
 
2014-07-27 01:13:07 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: So we're allowed to be intolerant towards gluten, but not gay marriage?

I see how it is, libs.


Show gay marriage is a PROFIT instead of an expense and it would go in lot easier.
Should not be that hard.
 
2014-07-27 01:15:39 PM  

Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.


Subby said you, not your mom.
 
2014-07-27 01:18:34 PM  
I'm sick and tired of this shiat
 
2014-07-27 01:20:36 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: So we're allowed to be intolerant towards gluten, but not gay marriage?

I see how it is, libs.


I'm on a trip to a funeral and needed a good laugh. I'd give you two funnies, if this cheap phone would let me.
 
2014-07-27 01:21:14 PM  
Ha. I am actually in the midst of writing a feature article about gluten-free beverages.
 
2014-07-27 01:22:48 PM  
People just want to belong to groups, and to be special.  Gluten intolerance lets these snowflakes be special and unique...together!  They can form support groups and bemoan how that nasty Monsanto wheat made their tummys rumble most dis-harmoniously.  It certainly wasn't because they ate an entire box of cookies in one sitting.

Then there's the group of people who will just fleece the above group and charge them money, so that they can affirm their specialness.  These people have five billion reasons to continue the charade.

Then there are the poor folks who actually have Celiac disease, who happily now have more food choices, but unhappily have to deal with the snarky people like me who like to mock the hypochondriacs.
 
2014-07-27 01:23:36 PM  

snocone: I am not ready to dismiss the "intolerance" out of hand. True, "real" celiac disease is very rare. With SEVERE malnutrition as the problem, not "Gee, I don't feel good."
But, medically, we have no "real" investigation of intolerance. Unless you are willing to accept the Monsanto agenda laden "stuff". Humans usually display a spectrum of sensitivity and intolerance (mild to severe) rather than black/white reactions.
I find far too many patients with anecdotal reports of improvement in quality of life. We have dealt with hypochondria since decent record keeping began. Some of the alarm is due to hypochondria.
But there is something new afoot.


Celiac is about 1 in every 117 Americans.  That's not exactly rare.

As for gluten intolerance.  It's bullshiat.

The reason why you feel like shiat is because you eat shiatty food.
 
2014-07-27 01:24:03 PM  

Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.


That's a good way to be certain, but it's not so good after the fact. The trick is that the gut biopsy is how you conclusively show it. The blood test says maybe you COULD have it. But, and here's the fun part, for the gut biopsy to work, you have to be eating gluten for a couple months before it. If you were feeling bad, you heard about the gluten nonsense, stopped eating gluten and felt a lot better, now the biopsy won't show anything. I know one person in that situation. She's had the blood test, and she'd love for the doctor to be able to tell her that she has Celiac so she doesn't feel like she's lying to everyone, but as bad as it was, she's not willing to eat gluten for another couple months.
 
2014-07-27 01:25:31 PM  
Related story about how weird the human body is. (Or how weird I am)

I smoked for around 10 years. I finally decided to quit and was able to do it cold turkey. I had a persistent cough afterwords for years.
One day I Googled "Cough and Smoking" to see if I could figure out why I still had it. I got nothing but Lung cancer hits.

The next week I started to get pains in my chest, like really nasty pains. I manged to convince myself I had cancer. They were so sever they
keep me awake at night. I was scared to go to the doctor because I didn't want to hear the Big C. Finally my wife got sick of it and dragged me down
to an insta-care and they took a chest xray. I was sitting in the waiting room waiting for my death sentence when the doctor came in and told me nothing
was wrong.

The pain in my chest dissipated within 20 minutes. It was so bizarre. It was all in my head.


Morals to the story:
Don't diagnose yourself on Google.
Don't Smoke.
Be excellent to each other.

CSB!
 
2014-07-27 01:26:21 PM  

Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.


"Probably"
 
2014-07-27 01:26:28 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: Ha. I am actually in the midst of writing a feature article about gluten-free beverages.


That's unfarkingbelievable.
 
2014-07-27 01:27:13 PM  
First unwashed spinach gave us the sh&ts, now celery? Geez, it's getting so the only thing you can eat is pizza and pulled pork. Good.
 
2014-07-27 01:27:52 PM  
I probably don't, because I literally do.
 
2014-07-27 01:28:29 PM  
 
2014-07-27 01:29:44 PM  
the bad news is i actually have it.
/the good news is after my diagnosis i lost 40 pounds in 3 months
//feel a lot better too
 
2014-07-27 01:31:37 PM  
Can we get this on a billboard?
 
2014-07-27 01:31:38 PM  
It's probably lupus.
 
2014-07-27 01:32:22 PM  
Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.
 
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2014-07-27 01:35:37 PM  
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2014-07-27 01:37:10 PM  
Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.
 
2014-07-27 01:38:17 PM  

snocone: I am not ready to dismiss the "intolerance" out of hand. True, "real" celiac disease is very rare. With SEVERE malnutrition as the problem, not "Gee, I don't feel good."
But, medically, we have no "real" investigation of intolerance. Unless you are willing to accept the Monsanto agenda laden "stuff". Humans usually display a spectrum of sensitivity and intolerance (mild to severe) rather than black/white reactions.
I find far too many patients with anecdotal reports of improvement in quality of life. We have dealt with hypochondria since decent record keeping began. Some of the alarm is due to hypochondria.
But there is something new afoot.


"Gluten Intolerance" pretty much appeared out of nowhere a couple years ago. What's afoot are buzzwords and the placebo effect.
 
2014-07-27 01:39:05 PM  

PanicMan: Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.


I'd get a second opinion at that point.
 
2014-07-27 01:39:10 PM  

TanHamster: Celiac: The Trendy Disease For Rich White People


I'll tell that to the full blooded Italian daughter of an Italian couple. After she finishes giving me injuries painful enough to duplicate her 3 day stint in the ER last week from accidentally ingesting something with gluten in it, maybe we'll have a chat about what is white and what isn't.
 
2014-07-27 01:42:04 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: ruta: It would be nice if the link went to Marc Vetri's article instead of an article about it [link].

Speaking of TFA, "Get your grain milled locally, or buy a hand-crank mill of your own."

Great idea.  I think I'll run down to the local water mill and... oh, wait.  The local water mill is now a B&B with a charming old-timey restaurant attached.  How the hell can someone write an article suggesting that one make one's own flour without a reference, a link, somethingabout how precisely one might go about that?


There's a minimum of two local bakeries in my area that mill their own wheat. They sell heavenly bread for $5 a loaf, 50% off for day-old. and that's just the suburb I'm in- there's many more in the whole area.
 
2014-07-27 01:42:31 PM  

cwolf20: TanHamster: Celiac: The Trendy Disease For Rich White People

I'll tell that to the full blooded Italian daughter of an Italian couple. After she finishes giving me injuries painful enough to duplicate her 3 day stint in the ER last week from accidentally ingesting something with gluten in it, maybe we'll have a chat about what is white and what isn't.


Please, Italians have been White since Hispanics became the new Blacks.
 
2014-07-27 01:42:37 PM  
You probably don't have Lyme disease either.  Or Bartonella.  Or Babeosis but you certainly have hypochondria.
 
2014-07-27 01:42:51 PM  
Celiac sucks balls for those few who have it, and I sympathize with them.

There are a lot of hypochondriacs out there.

Marc Vetri is the farking man.  One of the very best chefs in the United States, with no pomp or ego about it. The guy is class act.

/that is all
 
2014-07-27 01:43:29 PM  
In related news, fibromyalgia isn't real.  I know this because I don't have it.  Everyone who claims to have it is just making it up.
 
2014-07-27 01:43:36 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.

Subby said you, not your mom.


That's unusual for Fark.
 
2014-07-27 01:45:12 PM  

Farking Canuck: Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.


Want to know how I know you've never worked in a restaurant?

Every time something hits the news, like MSG and gluten intolerances, suddenly EVERYONE has it. Even when the dishes they've been eating for years never contained any to begin with.

The Placebo Effect is a powerful thing...
 
2014-07-27 01:45:16 PM  

Katie98_KT: Manfred J. Hattan: ruta: It would be nice if the link went to Marc Vetri's article instead of an article about it [link].

Speaking of TFA, "Get your grain milled locally, or buy a hand-crank mill of your own."

Great idea.  I think I'll run down to the local water mill and... oh, wait.  The local water mill is now a B&B with a charming old-timey restaurant attached.  How the hell can someone write an article suggesting that one make one's own flour without a reference, a link, somethingabout how precisely one might go about that?

There's a minimum of two local bakeries in my area that mill their own wheat. They sell heavenly bread for $5 a loaf, 50% off for day-old. and that's just the suburb I'm in- there's many more in the whole area.


Not to mention a little thing called Google
 
2014-07-27 01:45:27 PM  
My wife's best friend is "gluten intolerant" and refuses to eat wheat claiming it makes her sick. She also works for Univera and daily consumes their 20 dollar orange juice because it sooo much healthier.

A few months ago she got drunk on Coors at our house and ate half a medium pizza that was left over in the fridge.
 
2014-07-27 01:45:45 PM  

Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.


It wouldn't and the article isn't about that. You COULD read it before just creating a whole fictional narrative in your head about what it says, you know.
 
2014-07-27 01:46:46 PM  

Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: "Gluten Intolerance" pretty much appeared out of nowhere a couple years ago. What's afoot are buzzwords and the placebo effect.


Or maybe people were having a reaction and didn't know the term to describe it.  Or what foods to consider avoiding.
 
2014-07-27 01:48:09 PM  

Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: cwolf20: TanHamster: Celiac: The Trendy Disease For Rich White People

I'll tell that to the full blooded Italian daughter of an Italian couple. After she finishes giving me injuries painful enough to duplicate her 3 day stint in the ER last week from accidentally ingesting something with gluten in it, maybe we'll have a chat about what is white and what isn't.

Please, Italians have been White since Hispanics became the new Blacks.


Tell that to the rednecks in Tennessee who confused her uncle with a "damn farking muslim farker. get the fark back to your farking shiat country"
 
2014-07-27 01:49:26 PM  
There are too many people that have the strong opinion that anything they, i A- know nothing about B- have no experience with C- cannot grasp the concept of, simply cannot be real. If it exists outside their little cubicle of life it scares them.
Idiots.
Trends are stupid.
 
2014-07-27 01:50:29 PM  

HalfOffOffer: In related news, fibromyalgia isn't real.  I know this because I don't have it.  Everyone who claims to have it is just making it up.


Same thing for you. The article isn't about that. You could try reading it rather than just making up a whole fictional article in your head and replying to that.
 
2014-07-27 01:50:38 PM  

Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: cwolf20: TanHamster: Celiac: The Trendy Disease For Rich White People

I'll tell that to the full blooded Italian daughter of an Italian couple. After she finishes giving me injuries painful enough to duplicate her 3 day stint in the ER last week from accidentally ingesting something with gluten in it, maybe we'll have a chat about what is white and what isn't.

Please, Italians have been White since Hispanics became the new Blacks.


On another note. A friend of mine was born with the recessive Italian gene that makes him pasty white. He's the only white Italian at periodic holiday vacations and family reunions with rooms full of Italians.  In his words, he's the token white man. Also as he put it  "Italian skin, italian skin, oh look it's James, Italian skin, italian skin.."
 
2014-07-27 01:51:53 PM  
cwolf20:

Tell that to the rednecks in Tennessee who confused her uncle with a "damn farking muslim farker. get the fark back to your farking shiat country"

To be fair, rednecks aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.
 
2014-07-27 01:52:34 PM  
I have a friend who recently "became holistic." Since then everyone she knows suffer from some syndrome, allergy, ailment, or disease. It Is annoying.
 
2014-07-27 01:52:39 PM  

Farking Canuck: Great. More comments from people who do not have a condition claiming the condition is fake. AKA dicks.


Interesting approach to topical matters.

I do have a condition. I'm diabetic. It is certainly genetic, and it ravages us all in my family. And yet, I recognize a definite, provable relationship between diabetes and grain consumption. Celiac be damned, I contend with about 20 years of observations that diabetes is a grain related condition. I anticipate serious disagreement from others here at fark.com, but using your stated gold standard, if they are not themselves diabetic, regardless of their level of education or expertise, I can haughtily dismiss them as dicks. Cool!

Regarding your comment above, my being a diabetic somehow gives me clout in discussing the matter which exceeds the foolish opinions of those pesky medical professionals. I'm a god!

/If only this rule applied in the Politics Tab, the world would be a better place. Thanks Canuck!
 
2014-07-27 01:52:40 PM  

PanicMan: Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.


It absolutely must be the gluten. Cuz gluten is absolutely the sole thing on Earth that might cause pain.

And a sip of beer is pretty much 450% gluten.
 
2014-07-27 01:53:53 PM  

mongbiohazard: Felgraf: ... Uh?
Preettyyy sure my mom has it, given they did A) A blood test, and then B) a *Gut biopsy*.

Not really sure how being a hypochondriac could alter those tests.

It wouldn't and the article isn't about that. You COULD read it before just creating a whole fictional narrative in your head about what it says, you know.


Why are you complaining about not reading articles when you didn't even read the headline?
 
2014-07-27 01:54:49 PM  

jaytkay: PanicMan: Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.

It absolutely must be the gluten. Cuz gluten is absolutely the sole thing on Earth that might cause pain.

And a sip of beer is pretty much 450% gluten.


Unless it's one specifically made without it.  There are a few types. Granted the companies did it for the increased profit not out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
2014-07-27 01:56:47 PM  

jaytkay: PanicMan: Right until you see someone doubled over in pain because of one beer that they thought was gluten-free but was actually gluten-removed.

And they've been to a doctor and are clear for celiacs.

It absolutely must be the gluten. Cuz gluten is absolutely the sole thing on Earth that might cause pain.

And a sip of beer is pretty much 450% gluten.


One example of many.  But thank you for your concern.
 
2014-07-27 01:58:08 PM  
There isn't any doubt that some people have a reaction to gluten.  They're a small minority compared to people who self diagnosed based on something they saw on Dr Oz.
 
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