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(Times Union)   Sometimes, when you're riding your motorcycle, you just need to stop and stretch your legs. In the middle of traffic on a busy highway off-ramp is probably not the optimal place to do it, however. Especially if your BAC is 2.5 times the legal limit   (timesunion.com) divider line 34
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2014-07-27 10:14:37 AM  
The idiot in TFA is a friend of mine from years ago.  Haven't seen him in years, but talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago, and he told me he was sober.

I'm just glad he got caught before he hurt himself or someone else.

/Alcoholism sucks.
 
2014-07-27 10:33:40 AM  
Norway is crazy.
 
2014-07-27 10:42:33 AM  
Loud Pipes Save Lives
 
2014-07-27 10:44:00 AM  
I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles. 

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.
 
2014-07-27 10:53:38 AM  

hardinparamedic: I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles. 

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.


I'm not the expert here; but isn't burning less than optimal for organ preservation?
 
2014-07-27 11:00:05 AM  

dittybopper: The idiot in TFA is a friend of mine from years ago.  Haven't seen him in years, but talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago, and he told me he was sober.

I'm just glad he got caught before he hurt himself or someone else.

/Alcoholism sucks.


Here's hoping your friend stops deluding himself and gets straight.  Alcoholism does suck.  I can attest from having grown up with an alcoholic father who was a great and wonderful dad when he was sober and a living, breathing horror show when he was drunk.  Unfortunately for our relationship, the sober periods became fewer and fewer and the blitzed episodes became the norm and he never got sober until years after I left the household.
 
2014-07-27 11:00:12 AM  

hardinparamedic: I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles. 

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.


Not really.

I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.
 
2014-07-27 11:01:57 AM  

opiumpoopy: hardinparamedic: I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles.

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.

I'm not the expert here; but isn't burning less than optimal for organ preservation?


It all depends. If someone needs new retinas, and the head is several dozen yards away from the part of the body on fire, it's good to go.
 
2014-07-27 11:20:18 AM  

KidneyStone: I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.


We have them do that in Memphis on I-40/240 during the weekends.

The city actually paid to re-open the Memphis Motorsports park for a race night every Saturday and Sunday for these people because we had several of them get creamed by unsuspecting cars and wind up in more than one piece when the unit got there to pronounce them.

I often think that the anti-helmet law lobby is in cahoots with the organ donor people. A conspiracy, if you will.
 
2014-07-27 11:20:24 AM  

Prey4reign: dittybopper: The idiot in TFA is a friend of mine from years ago.  Haven't seen him in years, but talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago, and he told me he was sober.

I'm just glad he got caught before he hurt himself or someone else.

/Alcoholism sucks.

Here's hoping your friend stops deluding himself and gets straight.  Alcoholism does suck.  I can attest from having grown up with an alcoholic father who was a great and wonderful dad when he was sober and a living, breathing horror show when he was drunk.  Unfortunately for our relationship, the sober periods became fewer and fewer and the blitzed episodes became the norm and he never got sober until years after I left the household.


The thing about John is that he isn't an asshole or violent when drunk, but he becomes a serious poonhound.

I think that's what broke up his marriage.

Hopefully a stint in jail will wake his ass up.  I hope so.
 
2014-07-27 11:27:02 AM  

hardinparamedic: KidneyStone: I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.

We have them do that in Memphis on I-40/240 during the weekends.

The city actually paid to re-open the Memphis Motorsports park for a race night every Saturday and Sunday for these people because we had several of them get creamed by unsuspecting cars and wind up in more than one piece when the unit got there to pronounce them.

I often think that the anti-helmet law lobby is in cahoots with the organ donor people. A conspiracy, if you will.


I am very much pro-helmt and anti-helmet law. Personal choice.

I started wearing a seatbelt, by choice, at age ten, long before it was mandated by law. Again, personal choice. If you want to take yourself out of the pool by not using the safety equipment, that should be your legal choice.
 
2014-07-27 11:36:15 AM  
Needs a mugshot.
 
2014-07-27 11:42:51 AM  

KidneyStone: hardinparamedic: I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles. 

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.

Not really.

I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.


North GA Mountains?  The idiots on crotch rockets are why I don't drive or ride up there any more.

/Of course I don't ride anywhere anymore because my Triumph is in need of a full rebuild and I'm not motivated enough to fix it up nor do I want to sell it.
//Since I only have 2 non-functioning bikes I refuse to sell, I'm not a hoarder, right?
 
2014-07-27 11:48:56 AM  
www.niu.edu
 
2014-07-27 12:01:50 PM  
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Why did he think you have to get off the bike to stretch your legs?
 
2014-07-27 12:05:14 PM  

Lokkii: [img.fark.net image 380x526]
Why did he think you have to get off the bike to stretch your legs?


Or air out yer coochie.
 
2014-07-27 12:06:22 PM  
KidneyStone:

I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.

I witnessed something similar in Dallas many years ago. Jackass with his girlfriend on the back ran a red light at high speed and T-boned a pickup. The rider flew through the passenger side window killing himself and the pickup driver. The girl was seriously fscked up. She was so messed up all I could do was wait for the meat wagon to show up.
 
2014-07-27 12:15:24 PM  

stuhayes2010: Needs a mugshot.


Only pictures of him that I know about online are on facebook.
 
2014-07-27 12:28:47 PM  

dittybopper: The idiot in TFA is a friend of mine from years ago.  Haven't seen him in years, but talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago, and he told me he was sober.

I'm just glad he got caught before he hurt himself or someone else.

/Alcoholism sucks.


it really does. I have had two uncles pretty much kill themselves with Alcoholism one to the point where with one of the uncles we had to take his guns away from him cause we didn't want him to lose control and hurt anybody with them. the other just drank until he died from it. tried everything we could to get him to stop but when he lived at my aunt's house and a bar was within walking distance...

"I started wearing a seatbelt, by choice, at age ten, long before it was mandated by law. Again, personal choice. If you want to take yourself out of the pool by not using the safety equipment, that should be your legal choice. "

the only problem with that is even though it should be personal choice in this day and age and in this country if the person survives they will be looking for a way to sue somebody or if they die the family will..regardless of the fact that the person decide not to wear a seatbelt or helmet...
 
2014-07-27 01:12:03 PM  

skinink: Riding a motorcycle is a challenge as it is. Riding drunk is just so stupid. I wish riding a motorcycle while you're drunk resulted in an automatic license suspension.


Should the punishment be based on risk to the perpetrator or risk to others? It would seem to me someone driving a Humvee or Suburban while drunk should get the stricter punishment.
 
2014-07-27 01:21:23 PM  

dittybopper: The idiot in TFA is a friend of mine from years ago.  Haven't seen him in years, but talked to him on the phone a couple weeks ago, and he told me he was sober.

I'm just glad he got caught before he hurt himself or someone else.

/Alcoholism sucks.


Stepsons father is a full blown alcoholic.  12 years ago he flew out to spend the summer with his dad and ended up coming home early with a broken nose that he wouldn't talk about.  6 years ago when my stepson got married his dad couldn't be there because he was in a involuntary rehab treatment center.  Last summer my s-son and his wife dropped in to surprise him and found out he was in jail for his 4th DUI and DV assault.

Yeah, I think he's about done with his dad now.

/sucks indeed.
 
2014-07-27 01:46:34 PM  
The guy should have just said he was drunk so he was pushing his motorcycle home and left it there because he got tired and would come back for it later. Cant charge you with DUI if they never saw you driving.
 
2014-07-27 02:34:13 PM  

skinink: Riding a motorcycle is a challenge as it is. Riding drunk is just so stupid. I wish riding a motorcycle while you're drunk resulted in an automatic license suspension.


It does. It's called DWI, and it's the same for all drivers.

Wait... did I just see what you did there?...

KidneyStone: hardinparamedic: I for one support drunk driving assholes on motorcycles. 

There are children dying of the need for an organ transplant, and at least they won't kill anyone else when they crash and burn.

Not really.

I remember seeing a minivan on its side with a crotch rocket sticking out of the passenger window. Two assholes were racing at over 100 mph up a busy 45 mph road and the guy torpedoed the van. Killed himself as well as the van driver.


Even given the possibility that you didn't just make this up out of wholecloth, a motorcyclist killing anyone but himself in a crash is extremely rare.  About 10 times as many people die each year in cars as do on motorcycles, and about half of all motorcycle accidents are single vehicle.
 
2014-07-27 02:50:13 PM  

ReapTheChaos: The guy should have just said he was drunk so he was pushing his motorcycle home and left it there because he got tired and would come back for it later. Cant charge you with DUI if they never saw you driving.


RTFA:  He was so drunk he couldn't remember why he parked it there.

Plus, he parked in the middle of the off-ramp to a limited access highway.  It's not plausible that he pushed it several miles from the previous exit to that one in the condition he was in.  Plus, all they have to do is feel the engine to see if it was hot, which they probably did when they moved it off the road (it was blocking traffic).

Not to mention the fact that it happened just before 4pm on a weekday.  The Clifton Park area is a "bedroom community" for the state capital, Albany.  The people who get out of work at 3:00pm are just coming home about that time, which is what indirectly led to the arrest:  People called it in on their cell phones, and almost certainly someone saw him do it.  Too much traffic that time of day for it not to be witnessed, so I'm sure they gave the state police a description.
 
2014-07-27 02:51:54 PM  

Z-clipped: About 10 times as many people die each year in cars as do on motorcycles


Is that a rate, or an absolute number?
 
2014-07-27 03:55:52 PM  

dittybopper: Z-clipped: About 10 times as many people die each year in cars as do on motorcycles

Is that a rate, or an absolute number?


I wouldn't be surprised, more people have cars and use them at least twice daily.
 
2014-07-27 04:10:48 PM  

dittybopper: Z-clipped: About 10 times as many people die each year in cars as do on motorcycles

Is that a rate, or an absolute number?


It's exactly what it says. Each year, the number of motorcycle deaths is approximately 1/10 the number of auto deaths, nationally.
 
2014-07-27 05:10:19 PM  

farkmedown: I am very much pro-helmt and anti-helmet law. Personal choice.


This is the quote I use to answer that statement. And it's pretty comprehensive on the matter.

From the moment of the injury, society picks the person up off the highway; delivers him to a municipal hospital and municipal doctors; provides him with unemployment compensation if, after recovery, he cannot replace his lost job, and, if the injury causes permanent disability, may assume the responsibility for his and his family's continued subsistence. We do not understand a state of mind that permits plaintiff to think that only he himself is concerned.

- Excerpt from the case  Simon v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 1972.
 
2014-07-27 05:13:05 PM  
Z-clipped:About 10 times as many people die each year in cars as do on motorcycles, and about half of all motorcycle accidents are single vehicle.

And for some reason there are very few motorcycle accidents during MI winters, but snowmobile accidents go way up.

/obvious statements are obvious.
 
2014-07-27 05:23:42 PM  

hardinparamedic: farkmedown: I am very much pro-helmt and anti-helmet law. Personal choice.

This is the quote I use to answer that statement. And it's pretty comprehensive on the matter.

From the moment of the injury, society picks the person up off the highway; delivers him to a municipal hospital and municipal doctors; provides him with unemployment compensation if, after recovery, he cannot replace his lost job, and, if the injury causes permanent disability, may assume the responsibility for his and his family's continued subsistence. We do not understand a state of mind that permits plaintiff to think that only he himself is concerned.

- Excerpt from the case  Simon v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 1972.


That could easily be twisted into an argument for any nanny-state tactic a person chooses to pursue.
 
2014-07-27 05:28:08 PM  

farkmedown: That could easily be twisted into an argument for any nanny-state tactic a person chooses to pursue.


Except it wasn't. It was highly specific, and pointed out that it is NOT a personal decision, as the whole of society is punished - in the terms of an emotional, financial, and man-power loss, directly by your actions.

Quite frankly, if you're willing to pay out of pocket for your own insurance care, sign away any access to SSDI, Medicare, State Medicaid, and any government aid program, and be a mandatory organ donor, I'm perfectly okay with you not wearing a helmet.
 
2014-07-27 05:57:07 PM  
I never said I wouldn't wear a helmet or use a seatbelt.
 
2014-07-27 05:58:14 PM  

farkmedown: I never said I wouldn't wear a helmet or use a seatbelt.


I meant the collective "you". Not you in specific.

I've just had the misfortune of pealing too many brains off the asphalt from people that would have lived had they worn a helmet.
 
2014-07-27 11:32:45 PM  

hardinparamedic: farkmedown: That could easily be twisted into an argument for any nanny-state tactic a person chooses to pursue.

Except it wasn't. It was highly specific, and pointed out that it is NOT a personal decision, as the whole of society is punished - in the terms of an emotional, financial, and man-power loss, directly by your actions.

Quite frankly, if you're willing to pay out of pocket for your own insurance care, sign away any access to SSDI, Medicare, State Medicaid, and any government aid program, and be a mandatory organ donor, I'm perfectly okay with you not wearing a helmet.


I've been riding and racing motorcycles for over 20 years, and while there are almost no situations in which I would get on a bike without wearing a full-face helmet, every once in a while, it's nice to have the option to hop around a beach town while on vacation or drive a few blocks in the city without having to wear one.  Basically, if I'm not going to be moving faster than I would on a bicycle, and I'm not going to be on the bike for more than 10 or 15 minutes, I'll sometimes leave the lid at home.
 
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