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(IndyStar)   Survivor of the USS Indianapolis sinking describes floating in the ocean for days waiting to be rescued and it's even more terrifying than Quint's tale in 'Jaws.' "The body would go under, and then that life vest popped back up"   (indystar.com) divider line 120
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2014-07-27 05:54:12 AM  

Zizzowop: After surviving a year and a half in Korea, he was allowed to go home.


ah I see. he chose to not stay in the military.
 
2014-07-27 05:57:11 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Zizzowop: HotWingAgenda: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

If I had a biatchfit every time someone cracked jokes about my old man's career choices, I would have died of a heart attack at the age of twelve.

My Dad was drafted into the Army to fight in Korea. Tell me how that's a career choice.

He chose to be born in America in time to be drafted into Korea. Clearly he chose poorly.


I had a Spanish teacher a long time ago who knew he was going to be drafted into Vietnam, so he joined the Navy before that happened, said he got to stay up late, sleep in, get drunk, and overall had a great time. I always thought that was pretty smart.
 
2014-07-27 05:59:21 AM  

log_jammin: Zizzowop: After surviving a year and a half in Korea, he was allowed to go home.

ah I see. he chose to not stay in the military.


Yep, he chose not to go to jail.
 
2014-07-27 06:07:41 AM  

TheOther: Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!

You had a FATHER!?!?  Try being a dumpster baby grown from frozen embryo and sperm.


I didn't think it was possible for IVF embryos thrown in dumpers to grow into babies.  I'd have thought you'd need a womb for that.
 
2014-07-27 06:12:47 AM  

Zizzowop: log_jammin: Zizzowop: After surviving a year and a half in Korea, he was allowed to go home.

ah I see. he chose to not stay in the military.

Yep, he chose not to go to jail.


why would he go to jail at the end of his conscription?
 
2014-07-27 06:20:35 AM  

log_jammin: Zizzowop: log_jammin: Zizzowop: After surviving a year and a half in Korea, he was allowed to go home.

ah I see. he chose to not stay in the military.

Yep, he chose not to go to jail.

why would he go to jail at the end of his conscription?


If he didn't serve, he would have been arrested, what part of THAT choice is confusing since you brought up the concept of choices that aren't really choices.
 
2014-07-27 06:33:43 AM  

Zizzowop: If he didn't serve, he would have been arrested, what part of THAT choice is confusing since you brought up the concept of choices that aren't really choices.


here, let's try this again.

I said "did he choose to stay in or choose to get out at the end of mandatory service? "

He didn't have a choice when he was drafted, but he had a choice to make it a career or not at the end of his conscription. That is a choice that really is a choice, which was my entire point.
 
2014-07-27 06:45:23 AM  

ban_sidhe: Iczer: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x287]

These guys will eat you quite intentionally, and do so with a smile, if you happen to be involved in some kind of nautical disaster at sea...

Like this?
[img.photobucket.com image 620x400]

Fascinating article. Thanks, subby!


www.jiveturkeyjives.com
 
2014-07-27 06:56:05 AM  
Quint?
 
2014-07-27 06:56:58 AM  

Lsherm: Kittypie070: phrawgh: vomit!

Eat sh*t.

Seriously?


Yes.
 
2014-07-27 07:06:11 AM  
Weatherkiss: I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!


Yeah we know .
 
2014-07-27 07:10:46 AM  

Friction8r: Thanks to their heroism, I'm currently in the backwoods eating thin slices of salted cucumber augmented by Lay's Ranch Dip.


Wat
 
2014-07-27 07:15:37 AM  

cynicalbastard: theotherles: andynz81: I'm not too familiar with what happened, so I thought I'd have a quick read of Wikipedia. The following sentence stood out:

"The  Indianapolis sent distress calls before sinking. Three stations received the signals; however, none acted upon the call. One commander was drunk, another had ordered his men not to disturb him and a third thought it was a Japanese trap."

What.

Two officers derelict in duty and one coward.

What happened to them?

It's secret, but I'll give you a clue- starts with "N", ends with "G", and the middle rhymes with "OTHIN". It was the ending of the war, the Navy wasn't in the mood to do anything that could lower its rep too much as their budget was about to be eviscerated anyhow, so just the skipper of the sunken ship got pounded.


Didn't they bring in the Japanese sub captain who sunk the ship to testify against him?
 
2014-07-27 07:18:30 AM  

Ambivalence: TheOther: Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!

You had a FATHER!?!?  Try being a dumpster baby grown from frozen embryo and sperm.

I didn't think it was possible for IVF embryos thrown in dumpers to grow into babies.  I'd have thought you'd need a womb for that.


Not if you're determined and self reliant enough.
That's why boots have straps, libtard.
Pffft...kids these days!
 
2014-07-27 07:19:29 AM  

nickdaisy: OMG LOL these guys think they had it bad?  I'm $178,000 in debt and can't find a job because these geezers won't retire and screwed up the economy! Greatest Generation my azz!  When was the last time you saw one of these old cranks send a decent tweet, or create a cool tumblr page. The Korean War was like 500 years ago-- let it go! Whatevs!


Satire, but I've heard Millenials talk like this.

You'd figure a "178k" education would include some history and critical thinking.
 
2014-07-27 07:20:11 AM  

dstrick44: cynicalbastard: theotherles: andynz81: I'm not too familiar with what happened, so I thought I'd have a quick read of Wikipedia. The following sentence stood out:

"The  Indianapolis sent distress calls before sinking. Three stations received the signals; however, none acted upon the call. One commander was drunk, another had ordered his men not to disturb him and a third thought it was a Japanese trap."

What.

Two officers derelict in duty and one coward.

What happened to them?

It's secret, but I'll give you a clue- starts with "N", ends with "G", and the middle rhymes with "OTHIN". It was the ending of the war, the Navy wasn't in the mood to do anything that could lower its rep too much as their budget was about to be eviscerated anyhow, so just the skipper of the sunken ship got pounded.

Didn't they bring in the Japanese sub captain who sunk the ship to testify against him?


Yes . But the sub captain said there was nothing that the ship could have done . He could have sank them regardless of what they did .
 
2014-07-27 07:49:31 AM  
Interesting bit at the end about this guy holding the great granddaughter of the guy who sunk his ship, must have been quite a surreal whats it all for / why do we kill each other moment.
 
2014-07-27 07:55:18 AM  

andynz81: I'm not too familiar with what happened, so I thought I'd have a quick read of Wikipedia. The following sentence stood out:

"The  Indianapolis sent distress calls before sinking. Three stations received the signals; however, none acted upon the call. One commander was drunk, another had ordered his men not to disturb him and a third thought it was a Japanese trap."

What.


Larry, curly and moe

Or

Groucho harpo and zeppo?
 
2014-07-27 08:32:32 AM  

get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat


During WWII, my grandfather got drunk, stole a plane, and ended up spending most of the war in the brig. I think that's hilarious.
 
2014-07-27 08:36:36 AM  

AngryDragon: nickdaisy: OMG LOL these guys think they had it bad?  I'm $178,000 in debt and can't find a job because these geezers won't retire and screwed up the economy! Greatest Generation my azz!  When was the last time you saw one of these old cranks send a decent tweet, or create a cool tumblr page. The Korean War was like 500 years ago-- let it go! Whatevs!

Satire, but I've heard Millenials talk like this.

You'd figure a "178k" education would include some history and critical thinking.


I've worked with thousands of Millennials at four different universities drawing from all social and economic backgrounds. I don't recall ever once hearing them say any shiat like that.

In fact, as a whole Millennials are so damned respectful of their parents and grandparents it sometimes pissed me off.

And as far as NickDaisy's "satire" goes, that'd be the Boomer Generation that's refusing to make room in the workforce for the next generations and tanking the economy. The Greatest Generation is busy dying off. Get your rant details right. But then, I suppose it wouldn't have been topical.
 
2014-07-27 08:49:29 AM  
Man, just drop a 1600 lb weight on them.  All you have to afterwards is pick up the mess and stick it in a can of tomato bisque.  You could, also, burn them, although I think burning should only be used in cases where the convicted has turned someone into a newt.
 
2014-07-27 08:52:38 AM  
Fta:Forgiveness came - last year, Harrell held on his lap the great-granddaughter of Mochitsura Hashimoto, the commander of the Japanese submarine I-58 that sank the USS Indianapolis. The baby smiled at him; Harrell had tears in his eyes.

WAR
 
2014-07-27 09:01:04 AM  

doglover: It doesn't sound more terrifying. It sounds more detailed.

Then again, you have to remember the guy who wrote Quint's monologue was the best writer in Hollywood, not a guy on the wreck. He was the guy you called to "polish" your scripts and wrote pretty much all the best scenes for a good decade there in Hollywood.

Quint's monologue, Dirty Harry's feel lucky, and a handful of other quintessential Hollywood moments. I'll go look it up.


John Milius.

He also directed (but didn't write) Red Dawn and was the inspiration for Walter Sobchak in The Big Lebowski. There's a really good documentary about him currently streaming on Netflix called Milius.
 
2014-07-27 09:06:07 AM  
♪♫WE ARE FLOATING, WE ARE FLOATING
/chop
 
2014-07-27 09:08:15 AM  

Kittypie070: Lsherm: Kittypie070: phrawgh: vomit!

Eat sh*t.

Seriously?

Yes.


He was coming in at a solid 3/10 until you leapt on him like some voracious creature of the sea when it finds food just floating around. If only I could come up with a better metaphor. Damn.
 
2014-07-27 09:11:23 AM  

Oldiron_79: andynz81: I'm not too familiar with what happened, so I thought I'd have a quick read of Wikipedia. The following sentence stood out:

"The  Indianapolis sent distress calls before sinking. Three stations received the signals; however, none acted upon the call. One commander was drunk, another had ordered his men not to disturb him and a third thought it was a Japanese trap."

What.

Was the third Admiral Akbar?


It's a Jap trap!!!
 
2014-07-27 09:28:45 AM  

child_god: Fta:Forgiveness came - last year, Harrell held on his lap the great-granddaughter of Mochitsura Hashimoto, the commander of the Japanese submarine I-58 that sank the USS Indianapolis. The baby smiled at him; Harrell had tears in his eyes.

WAR


Huh good God y'all
 
2014-07-27 09:51:38 AM  

TheOther: Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!

You had a FATHER!?!?  Try being a dumpster baby grown from frozen embryo and sperm.


You had a DUMPSTER!¿!? Try being a toilet baby abandoned at junior prom.
 
2014-07-27 09:51:38 AM  

ghare: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

What's REALLY funny is they all fought and died so Germany could be the economic powerhouse of Europe today! LOL!


And for the Japanese to take all of our manufacturing and technology jobs in the 80s!
 
2014-07-27 09:59:15 AM  

Mugato: Quint's monolog was a bit disjointed in places, I think the point was that he was half in the bag while telling it.


And maybe because Robert Shaw was half in the bag during that scene, as he (anecdotally) was for pretty much all his scenes.
 
2014-07-27 10:13:12 AM  

mcmnky: TheOther: Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!

You had a FATHER!?!?  Try being a dumpster baby grown from frozen embryo and sperm.

You had a DUMPSTER!¿!? Try being a toilet baby abandoned at junior prom.


I got named Waste M. Ment.

Are you  A. Stan Dard or Kay Ohler?
 
2014-07-27 10:15:56 AM  

DeathRaySanta: Mugato: Quint's monolog was a bit disjointed in places, I think the point was that he was half in the bag while telling it.

And maybe because Robert Shaw was half in the bag during that scene, as he (anecdotally) was for pretty much all his scenes.


If the "making of Jaws" thing I watched on TV is accurate, and since they were interviewing everyone actually involved in the film, I have to assume it is, the monolog actually consists of two separately filmed scenes.  Shaw's first delivery was when he was in the bag, and was pretty awful.  He apparently called and apologized to Spielberg.  He was sober during the second filming.  The final version consists of edited sections of both deliveries.
 
2014-07-27 10:23:59 AM  

mcmnky: TheOther: Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!

You had a FATHER!?!?  Try being a dumpster baby grown from frozen embryo and sperm.


You had a DUMPSTER!¿!? Try being a toilet baby abandoned at junior prom.


In my day, we had to get up an hour before we went to sleep, lick the dumpster clean, dad would beat us until we couldn't walk, work 27 hours at mill, then walk a hundred miles to our prom, just to find out that our date was in the bathroom havin babies instead of dancin with us.
 
2014-07-27 10:35:17 AM  

brimed03: AngryDragon: nickdaisy: OMG LOL these guys think they had it bad?  I'm $178,000 in debt and can't find a job because these geezers won't retire and screwed up the economy! Greatest Generation my azz!  When was the last time you saw one of these old cranks send a decent tweet, or create a cool tumblr page. The Korean War was like 500 years ago-- let it go! Whatevs!

Satire, but I've heard Millenials talk like this.

You'd figure a "178k" education would include some history and critical thinking.

I've worked with thousands of Millennials at four different universities drawing from all social and economic backgrounds. I don't recall ever once hearing them say any shiat like that.

In fact, as a whole Millennials are so damned respectful of their parents and grandparents it sometimes pissed me off.

And as far as NickDaisy's "satire" goes, that'd be the Boomer Generation that's refusing to make room in the workforce for the next generations and tanking the economy. The Greatest Generation is busy dying off. Get your rant details right. But then, I suppose it wouldn't have been topical.


I'm 26, so I guess I'm a millennial. I'm also in charge of hiring for my department, and I usually try to fill my part time jobs with college kids. Overall, the 17-22 age group is incredibly lazy. Absolutely no work ethic. It's an easy job, they're paid by the job, so the harder they work the more they make. When I was working my way up, I made about $14/hr, busting my hump, part time. Most of the part time guys barely hit $8.

To fly in the face of bigots, I took a chance and hired a kid who failed his screen , on condition he pay for his own screenings, every two weeks, for 3 months. He runs circles around the shiatty white redneck kids I usually get.

It isn't the kids, it's the shiatty parents.

/anecdotes, I know.
//isn't this thread about jaws or something?
 
2014-07-27 10:35:20 AM  

DeathRaySanta: Mugato: Quint's monolog was a bit disjointed in places, I think the point was that he was half in the bag while telling it.

And maybe because Robert Shaw was half in the bag during that scene, as he (anecdotally) was for pretty much all his scenes.


Can't blame him, it was supposedly a nightmare of a shoot.
 
2014-07-27 10:39:58 AM  

born_yesterday: DeathRaySanta: Mugato: Quint's monolog was a bit disjointed in places, I think the point was that he was half in the bag while telling it.

And maybe because Robert Shaw was half in the bag during that scene, as he (anecdotally) was for pretty much all his scenes.

If the "making of Jaws" thing I watched on TV is accurate, and since they were interviewing everyone actually involved in the film, I have to assume it is, the monolog actually consists of two separately filmed scenes.  Shaw's first delivery was when he was in the bag, and was pretty awful.  He apparently called and apologized to Spielberg.  He was sober during the second filming.  The final version consists of edited sections of both deliveries.


That's how I remember the doc too. Oh, and Lorraine Gray? Yummy.
 
2014-07-27 10:42:36 AM  
Yeah, it was a good line, but it wasn't all that scary........

diskreaderrorblog.files.wordpress.com

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
 
2014-07-27 11:08:21 AM  
It wasn't just the Indianapolis that had a big percentage of its crew die in the water. The USS Juneau was torpedoed and sank in 1942; the explosion that sank her was so violent the crew of the ships she was with thought no one could have survived, so they didn't bother telling anyone until they reached port. About 400 men survived the sinking, but only a small handful were actually rescued. Then there was the USS Houston and HMAS Perth, sunk in early 1942 and the Japanese basically left the crew to drown. For that matter, there were literally thousands of ships sunk in the Pacific where the crew realized they were on their own and one by one, died without anyone ever knowing what happened to them. What's so interesting about the Indianapolis' survivors is we DO know what happened to them, and can imagine the same fate occurred to all those other men who found themselves in that situation.
 
2014-07-27 11:25:58 AM  

Ex-Texan: Wasn't there a senate inquiry a few years ago, that came to the conclusion sharks didn't get the guys? Now I'm no icthyologist, but it seems to me there'd be a lot of blood in the water. I'm thinking bullshiat on that story. When I was in junior high, I remember mandatory reading stories likew this, sailors going in the water, and being picked off by sharks. One part, a guy in a life jacket bobbed up, they knew the sharks got him, but didn't realize for sure until he flipped over in the water, and his bottom half was gone.
Speaking of "Jaws", I remember when it came out in '76 or so, my Uncle was telling my Dad about it, he said it scared you shiatless. He said when the movie was over,"That theatre stunk!" Was before Star Wars.
Lotsa kids nowadays cry over paper cuts, any blood in movies, or their parents expressing outrage over a movie that isn't Sky Wizard specific, or a diluted, mentally ill representative of such.


The huge about of oil and guel pooling at the surface would have prevented the blood from surfacing.
It would have spread out beneath the surface which would have been a nice dinner bell for even more sharks.
 
2014-07-27 11:26:33 AM  
I mean 'oil and fuel' pooling at the surface.
 
2014-07-27 11:28:43 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: How about "no shiat". We're still covering the farking sinking of the Indianapolis?

Boat goes into water.
People go into water
Sharks in the water.
Our sharks.

*nom nom nom*


Evidently there used to be a LOT (like mucho beaucoup) more sharks back then. Pretty horrific.

/ Probably not a good sign that there are WAY less sharks now...
 
2014-07-27 11:30:19 AM  

Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!


 A sizable amount of WWII vets also served in Korea.
And not necessarily willingly.
Ted Williams the famous baseball served in WWII and got called up again for Korea.
He missed his best baseball years fighting 2 wars.
Probably would have hit so many more records out of the park had he not spent so many years away at war.
 
2014-07-27 11:30:48 AM  
My wife's uncle survived the Indianapolis.  She has vague memories of him from when she was small.  He lived out his years in a catatonic condition, rocking on the front porch and chain smoking cigarettes.  The family had placed him in a veteran's home where he was bathed, dressed, fed, and parked on the front porch where he said nothing ever.  He died in his fifties from lung cancer.  He had been the pride of his family.  They describe him as a brilliant young man with an ebullient personality and a limitless future.
 
2014-07-27 11:31:12 AM  

Medic Zero: ArcadianRefugee: How about "no shiat". We're still covering the farking sinking of the Indianapolis?

Boat goes into water.
People go into water
Sharks in the water.
Our sharks.

*nom nom nom*

Evidently there used to be a LOT (like mucho beaucoup) more sharks back then. Pretty horrific.

/ Probably not a good sign that there are WAY less sharks now...


There are still plenty of sharks. They just don't swim as well with their tasty fins removed.
 
2014-07-27 11:32:01 AM  

Weatherkiss: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

I only had one father. I think it'd be awesome to have two dads!


That sounds pretty gay.

/NTTAWWT
 
2014-07-27 11:35:20 AM  

Mock26: get real: You all kinda suck.....having a father in WW2 and Korea....it must be fun to laugh at what your parent or grandparent did so you post shiat

Pfft.  He was probably a liar.  I bet your daddy shoveled schitt in Louisiana.


wearecinemaniax.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-27 11:37:11 AM  

pissnmoan: My wife's uncle survived the Indianapolis.  She has vague memories of him from when she was small.  He lived out his years in a catatonic condition, rocking on the front porch and chain smoking cigarettes.  The family had placed him in a veteran's home where he was bathed, dressed, fed, and parked on the front porch where he said nothing ever.  He died in his fifties from lung cancer.  He had been the pride of his family.  They describe him as a brilliant young man with an ebullient personality and a limitless future.


Christ, that's sad.
 
2014-07-27 11:48:45 AM  

Medic Zero: Evidently there used to be a LOT (like mucho beaucoup) more sharks back then. Pretty horrific.
/ Probably not a good sign that there are WAY less sharks now...


There's still plenty of sharks, they've just "evolved" into having fewer fins now.

No, wait, I'm getting a late report--oh, they're all dead. Turns out they don't survive too well having their fins cuts off by the millions.

pissnmoan: My wife's uncle survived the Indianapolis.  She has vague memories of him from when she was small.  He lived out his years in a catatonic condition, rocking on the front porch and chain smoking cigarettes.  The family had placed him in a veteran's home where he was bathed, dressed, fed, and parked on the front porch where he said nothing ever.  He died in his fifties from lung cancer.  He had been the pride of his family.  They describe him as a brilliant young man with an ebullient personality and a limitless future.


War, huh, what is it good for? Fark yeah, or however that song goes.
 
2014-07-27 11:56:50 AM  

SauronWasFramed: If you get the chance, read "Only 317 Survived  USS Indianapolis (CA-35) Navy's Worst Tragedy at Sea...880 Men Died"  ISBN 0-9725960-0-3, 2002.  It is a book about the real experiences of the USS Indianapolis survivors as told by the survivors.


There was also "Abandon Ship!" which came out in the mid-1950s, I think, and then again after "Jaws" revived the story, and then again awhile back with updates...excellent book that covered the journey, the sinking, the aftermath, the court-martial.  The Navy was so intent on the cover-up of its negligence and trying to lay the blame on the captain, that it actually subpoenaed the Japanese sub commander that sank the Indianapolis...The Navy wanted to prove that the Indy should have taken zigzag evasion moves.  The sub commander said that that's what they expected ships to do, so it wouldn't have made any difference....
 
2014-07-27 12:05:31 PM  

Billy Liar: SauronWasFramed: If you get the chance, read "Only 317 Survived  USS Indianapolis (CA-35) Navy's Worst Tragedy at Sea...880 Men Died"  ISBN 0-9725960-0-3, 2002.  It is a book about the real experiences of the USS Indianapolis survivors as told by the survivors.

There was also "Abandon Ship!" which came out in the mid-1950s, I think, and then again after "Jaws" revived the story, and then again awhile back with updates...excellent book that covered the journey, the sinking, the aftermath, the court-martial.  The Navy was so intent on the cover-up of its negligence and trying to lay the blame on the captain, that it actually subpoenaed the Japanese sub commander that sank the Indianapolis...The Navy wanted to prove that the Indy should have taken zigzag evasion moves.  The sub commander said that that's what they expected ships to do, so it wouldn't have made any difference....


Huh, I was looking for why the captain was cout-marshaled but that explains it.

It seems really strange to me to court-martial someone for the actions of the enemy. Court-martial should be for disobeying orders or gross negligence, like the drunk and the guy who ignored the distress call.
 
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