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(Slate)   R.E.M.'s "Out of Time" is the most politically significant album in US history, but only because of its packaging and not because of the Cold War satire Shiny Happy People   (slate.com) divider line 67
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2014-07-26 07:54:38 PM  
Subby must have never heard ... 'A Farewell To Kings'
 
2014-07-26 08:46:17 PM  
I hated REM in college when they were doing their schtick, still hate them, in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene.  If you want to see the Hipster Prototype look at Athens in the 90s. A bunch of clove smoking, coffee swilling idiots.
 
2014-07-26 08:46:47 PM  
Okay I'm a REM fan and I never new that.  Raising national voting rates by 10% is pretty significant.
 
2014-07-26 08:49:27 PM  

Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene


REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.
 
2014-07-26 08:54:49 PM  
 
2014-07-26 08:55:19 PM  

The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.


U2, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Radio Head, Sublime, Rage Against the Machine these were great bands of that era, not the Obnoxious B52s or the whiny REM.
 
2014-07-26 08:56:47 PM  

Tom_Slick: I hated REM in college when they were doing their schtick, still hate them, in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene.  If you want to see the Hipster Prototype look at Athens in the 90s. A bunch of clove smoking, coffee swilling idiots.


thank you for your worthwhile contribution to this thread

PanicMan: Okay I'm a REM fan and I never new that.  Raising national voting rates by 10% is pretty significant.


same here

The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.


rem and pearl jam are tied for my favorite bands to be formed within my lifetime. and the b52s are awesome as well. i hate that most people only know b52s for "love shack"...i LOVE that song, but there is a surprising amount of depth in their catalog
 
2014-07-26 08:59:26 PM  

The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.


Out of Time was the album that got me into REM.
 
2014-07-26 09:00:34 PM  

The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.


I loved Kate Pierson's (of the B52s) vocals in those R.E.M. tracks.

regmedia.co.uk

Call me, Kate!
 
2014-07-26 09:03:26 PM  
Bono is inconsolable right now.
 
2014-07-26 09:03:32 PM  

ZMugg: What 'Cold War' satire may sound like.


Ummm, no. This is what 'Cold War' satire may sound like.

Tom Lehrer - So Long, Mom (A Song for World War III)
 
2014-07-26 09:04:44 PM  

PanicMan: Okay I'm a REM fan and I never new that.  Raising national voting rates by 10% is pretty significant.


I actually own the CD (it was literally one of my first CDs that I got for Christmas with a CD player one year) and I totally don't remember that being part of the packaging.

\got it along with Waking Up The Neighbors, one I don't remember right this second...and that popular album by the original No-Talent Ass-Clown.
\\no clue why I got any of them, I was into hair bands at the time
 
2014-07-26 09:05:49 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.

Out of Time was the album that got me into REM.


while i knew and enjoyed a handful of their songs throughout the years, aftp was the one that REALLY got me into them. i mean, oot had "losing my religion" and "shiney happy people", but aftp was the first album of theirs i got and really got deeply into...THEN oot...green...by the time 1999 rolled around i had all their studio releases to that point on cd, including "dead letter office". in fact, in 1999 i was tdy to aviano italy, and i recall buying "dlo" and 1 or 2 others (probably "life's rich pageant" and "murmur") at an italian music store...so they were euro releases instead on usa releases...don't know if anything was different from the usa versions, though.
 
2014-07-26 09:07:57 PM  

FriarReb98: PanicMan: Okay I'm a REM fan and I never new that.  Raising national voting rates by 10% is pretty significant.

I actually own the CD (it was literally one of my first CDs that I got for Christmas with a CD player one year) and I totally don't remember that being part of the packaging.

\got it along with Waking Up The Neighbours, one I don't remember right this second...and that popular album by the original No-Talent Ass-Clown.
\\no clue why I got any of them, I was into hair bands at the time


ftfy
 
2014-07-26 09:12:51 PM  
Yep. Politically significant because it helped dilute the electorate with new voters who couldn't be bothered to vote until the government tried to take away their dirty music. Rock the Vote got apathetic, politically naive folks to vote- they grew up and elected Bush the Younger. Twice. Um, thanks Mr. Stipe?
 
2014-07-26 09:16:18 PM  

redsquid: - they grew up and elected Bush the Younger. Twice


Once.
 
2014-07-26 09:17:25 PM  
I know they were wasteful, but CD longboxes were great to use for decorating my high school lockers
 
2014-07-26 09:18:30 PM  

Mugato: redsquid: - they grew up and elected Bush the Younger. Twice

Once.


OK, OK, but they stood by and let the second one get stolen.
 
2014-07-26 09:19:53 PM  

jaytkay: ZMugg: What 'Cold War' satire may sound like.

Ummm, no. This is what 'Cold War' satire may sound like.

Tom Lehrer - So Long, Mom (A Song for World War III)


Take three :

Genesis - Land Of Confusion (clicky pops)
 
2014-07-26 09:20:41 PM  

Mugato: redsquid: - they grew up and elected Bush the Younger. Twice

Once.


No more than once...
 
2014-07-26 09:29:58 PM  
If you're not listening to 99% Invisible, you're doin' it wrong.
 
2014-07-26 09:35:53 PM  
Anything REM did after Lifes Rich Pageant sucks balls.
 
2014-07-26 09:38:59 PM  

doyner: Mugato: redsquid: - they grew up and elected Bush the Younger. Twice

Once.

No more than once...


So we all agree. Once. No more than once.
 
2014-07-26 09:39:24 PM  

Tom_Slick: The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.

U2, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Radio Head, Sublime, Rage Against the Machine these were great bands of that era, not the Obnoxious B52s or the whiny REM.



REM and The B-52s were great. REM is one of the more influential bands of its era, and the B-52s are just a lot of fun.

I'll give you most of you list, except:

STP: Please. shiatty wanna-be rock/metal band that somehow latched onto grunge and rode that to record sales.


Sublime: One of the worst bands ever to get swept up in with "alternative". Poor music, shiatty lyrics, a bunch of wanna-be third-wave ska posers. The fact that these guys are still consistently played on radio is one of the main reasons I now stick with an iPod in my car.
 
2014-07-26 09:39:24 PM  
 
2014-07-26 09:40:37 PM  
When I finally conquer the East Coast, TMBG's I'll take Manhattan will sound prophetic.
 
2014-07-26 09:41:28 PM  

Majick Thise: Subby must have never heard ... 'A Farewell To Kings'


That would be under "Canadian history."
 
2014-07-26 09:42:46 PM  
Slate's article (big .jpeg) is the most insignificant (video) poorly formatted (worthless soundcloud) piece of sh*t (video) allegedly about music (big f*cking .jpeg) ever.

/ also, anything by REM after Eponymous blows goats (big f*cking .jpeg of a goat)
 
2014-07-26 09:47:57 PM  
Yes, labeling music as explicit is "censorship". Thank God for Rock the Vote for ending all that tyrannical censorship! Oh wait...

mike.kruckenberg.com

Damn you, iTunes!!!! When will your reign of terror cease?!
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-07-26 09:55:29 PM  

theflatline: Anything REM did after Lifes Rich Pageant sucks balls.


Even kids born after Automatic know that's not true.
 
2014-07-26 10:00:06 PM  

Tom_Slick: I hated REM in college when they were doing their schtick, still hate them, in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene.  If you want to see the Hipster Prototype look at Athens in the 90s. A bunch of clove smoking, coffee swilling idiots.


Can't really disagree with this. They mark when the weird edginess of post-punk (Mission of Burma, Gang of Four, Wire, etc.) lost any of its bite and just became safe, banal, if slightly quirky College Rock.
 
2014-07-26 10:00:12 PM  

433: theflatline: Anything REM did after Lifes Rich Pageant sucks balls.

Even kids born after Automatic know that's not true.


Fables and Chronictown are incredible, not the record company pop rock that came after.

Oddly enough REMs popularity got started as frat house band...
 
2014-07-26 10:00:55 PM  
Anything after that mono cassette they recorded at their third practice on that tape recorder Stipe stole from his high school AV club was just sell-out posturing, but you've probably never heard it.
 
2014-07-26 10:03:51 PM  

Tom_Slick: The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.

U2, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Radio Head, Sublime, Rage Against the Machine these were great bands of that era, not the Obnoxious B52s or the whiny REM.


I'd rather listen to T-Pain shiat a sparrow than any of those bands. And I can't stand his shiatty 'I'm going to scream in a weird voice and call it rap' thing.

In fact, of the ones you mentioned, I like a couple of B52 songs, and a few REM songs.

/Born in '83, the 90's was 'my era' for music according to developmentalists
//it all sucked, wasn't till the 2000s or even 2010s that I found stuff I like
 
2014-07-26 10:36:35 PM  

Tom_Slick: I hated REM in college when they were doing their schtick, still hate them, in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene.  If you want to see the Hipster Prototype look at Athens in the 90s. A bunch of clove smoking, coffee swilling idiots.


...by which time all the Athens bands that arose a decade earlier had either established mainstream popularity or else had broken up or slid back into some level of semi-obscurity. The "Athens in the 90s" you speak of wasn't really the same music scene by then.
 
2014-07-26 10:38:11 PM  
Out of Time was good. It was one of the first CDs I ever bought with my lawn mowing money. But when Automatic for the People came out I thought it was the best collection of songs I ever heard.

Still do after all these years.
 
2014-07-26 10:56:09 PM  
The Nicleback of the '90's.....
 
M-G
2014-07-26 11:07:09 PM  

spiralscratch: I know they were wasteful, but CD longboxes were great to use for decorating my high school lockers


And their demise led to those damn impossible to remove stickers across the top of the jewel case....
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-07-26 11:20:13 PM  

loral: The Nicleback of the '90's.....


...Creed, dude.  The Nicleback of the 90's is Creed.  And they went on until 2004.

They were preceded by Warrant.
 
2014-07-26 11:25:44 PM  

Tom_Slick: The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.

U2, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Radio Head, Sublime, Rage Against the Machine these were great bands of that era, not the Obnoxious B52s or the whiny REM.


Sublime? Really?
 
2014-07-26 11:28:42 PM  
Out of Time also got me into liking REM. That being said, it was obvious that it was something of a change from what came before, and I didn't really care for anything after, except for about half of New Adventures in Hi-Fi. The early catalog was golden, though.
 
2014-07-26 11:32:59 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Yes, labeling music as explicit is "censorship". Thank God for Rock the Vote for ending all that tyrannical censorship! Oh wait...

[mike.kruckenberg.com image 300x118]

Damn you, iTunes!!!! When will your reign of terror cease?!


No, it really isn't censorship by any definition of the term. It's no different than putting an R rating on a movie or a TV-MA rating on a TV show. It's actually pretty helpful to have that labeling. When I was younger it let me know what music to pick out to show my teenage rebellion, and now that I'm older it helps me filter out music I probably shouldn't play at the office or parties where parents will bringing their children. Unless the government is saying you can't sell a certain item at all, it is simply not censorship.
 
2014-07-26 11:49:33 PM  
Politically wha???

cps-static.rovicorp.com
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-07-26 11:54:16 PM  
"most politically significant album in US history"

I loathe the current trend of hyperbole in internet articles
 
2014-07-26 11:56:56 PM  

Tom_Slick: The Bestest: Tom_Slick: in fact I hated the entire Athens music scene

REM and the B-52s are a couple of the greatest bands ever. Stop hatin.

U2, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Radio Head, Sublime, Rage Against the Machine these were great bands of that era, not the Obnoxious B52s or the whiny REM.


If that's your list from "that era", I'm guessing you didn't stray from Top40 radio stations much.
 
2014-07-27 12:35:46 AM  
I generally prefer Automatic for the People since it has the underrated Monty Got a Raw Deal. After that, I like Up (I like the sad bastard part of R.E.M.) and I had a weird appreciation for Around the Sun...maybe it's because it was the first album I listened to that wasn't a Best Of..
 
2014-07-27 12:41:40 AM  

davynelson: Politically wha???

[cps-static.rovicorp.com image 398x400]


Hey, you can't mix ROI and R.E.M. Everyone knows that.
 
2014-07-27 01:35:18 AM  

Mad_Radhu: B.L.Z. Bub: Yes, labeling music as explicit is "censorship". Thank God for Rock the Vote for ending all that tyrannical censorship! Oh wait...

[mike.kruckenberg.com image 300x118]

Damn you, iTunes!!!! When will your reign of terror cease?!

No, it really isn't censorship by any definition of the term. It's no different than putting an R rating on a movie or a TV-MA rating on a TV show. It's actually pretty helpful to have that labeling. When I was younger it let me know what music to pick out to show my teenage rebellion, and now that I'm older it helps me filter out music I probably shouldn't play at the office or parties where parents will bringing their children. Unless the government is saying you can't sell a certain item at all, it is simply not censorship.


For a while, a lot of department store chains wouldn't carry music with "Parental Advisory" stickers. Record companies would produce "clean edit" versions of the CDs so they wouldn't lose sales.
 
2014-07-27 01:45:30 AM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Mad_Radhu: B.L.Z. Bub: Yes, labeling music as explicit is "censorship". Thank God for Rock the Vote for ending all that tyrannical censorship! Oh wait...

[mike.kruckenberg.com image 300x118]

Damn you, iTunes!!!! When will your reign of terror cease?!

No, it really isn't censorship by any definition of the term. It's no different than putting an R rating on a movie or a TV-MA rating on a TV show. It's actually pretty helpful to have that labeling. When I was younger it let me know what music to pick out to show my teenage rebellion, and now that I'm older it helps me filter out music I probably shouldn't play at the office or parties where parents will bringing their children. Unless the government is saying you can't sell a certain item at all, it is simply not censorship.

For a while, a lot of department store chains wouldn't carry music with "Parental Advisory" stickers. Record companies would produce "clean edit" versions of the CDs so they wouldn't lose sales.


Still not censorship, really. The store decides what inventory they are going to stock, and if you don't like their selection you can go somewhere else. Sucks if you are in a small podunk town somewhere REALLY out in BFE, but when I was that age in the late 80s/early 90s and living in rural VA where even Wal-Mart wouldn't open a store because the town was too damn small, I could always hit the Sam Goody when my family took a trip to the mall and when I was 16 I could drive to the college town an hour down the road to hit the stores down there.

At most it was a minor inconvenience. To treat it as being in any way equivalent to the kind of government censorship that was happening in the USSR at the time is disingenuous at best. I grew up in the era and it in no way stopped me from picking up all the NIN, Jane's Addition, and Ice Cube that I wanted.
 
2014-07-27 02:22:24 AM  
I don't remember long boxes. I had that album on cassette.

It was one of four tapes given to me by my granparents when I was given my first tape player. The other three were Michael Jackson, Michael Bolton, and MC Hammer. My grandparents clearly just went to the store and bought whatever was on the charts.

I have to thank them for that, though, because REM became my favorite band and remained so until around the time Up was released. By that time, the alt-rock genre was pretty much dead, IIRC, and I started listening to 60s rock and the music in which it was rooted --- blues, folk, and country.
 
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