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2014-07-26 11:52:57 AM  
Both parties need to learn compromise

i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-26 12:52:47 PM  
"You need to compromise sometimes. You need to work across the aisle,"

I forget. Was Bob Dole already considered a RINO by the Teatards?

/In other news. Bob Dole, apparently still alive.
 
2014-07-26 01:39:51 PM  
Hey Bob Dole,

We still haven't forgotten how Bob Dole destroyed any hope of medical care in the 90s. Bob Dole. I sure as hell am not going to let people forget.

Bob Dole.
 
2014-07-26 01:43:49 PM  

quatchi: /In other news. Bob Dole, apparently still alive.


Barely ...
 
2014-07-26 01:57:20 PM  
Thanks, Bob Dole. And the Israelis should compromise more to the Gaza missile launchers, right?
/Thank you Captain Obvious for stating that the GOP should be for A, B, and C instead of against X, Y, and Z.
 
2014-07-26 01:59:14 PM  

HawgWild: quatchi: /In other news. Bob Dole, apparently still alive.

Barely ...


He's pretty stiff:

www.erectiledysfunctiontherapy.net
 
2014-07-26 01:59:15 PM  
It's pretty depressing when a guy like Bob Dole looks like a moderate.

Bob Dole.
 
2014-07-26 02:12:44 PM  
No, partisan bitterness and gridlock were not as bad back then. Until 1992 when a Satanic rapist and his uppity wife stole Murica, ending The Blessed Era of St. Reagangod, and Bob Dole helped lead the noble fight to Take Back Our Country. He and Gingrich founded modern partisan bitterness and gridlock.

F*ck you, Bob. This shiat today is your fault as much as anyone's.
 
2014-07-26 02:13:36 PM  
Bob Dole likes to alternate between appearing reasonable and throwing out "he's a dictator socialist" lately.
 
2014-07-26 02:15:43 PM  
What About Bob?
 
2014-07-26 02:20:55 PM  
38.media.tumblr.com

"Bob Dole doesn't need this..."
 
2014-07-26 02:23:52 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Bob Dole likes to alternate between appearing reasonable and throwing out "he's a dictator socialist" lately.


Old man yells at... pretty much everything
 
2014-07-26 02:24:31 PM  

Kevin72: Thanks, Bob Dole. And the Israelis should compromise more to the Gaza missile launchers, right?
/Thank you Captain Obvious for stating that the GOP should be for A, B, and C instead of against X, Y, and Z.


That's a hell of an inversion of stances. Ough to get a few angry biters.
 
2014-07-26 02:27:15 PM  

Kibbler: No, partisan bitterness and gridlock were not as bad back then. Until 1992 when a Satanic rapist and his uppity wife stole Murica, ending The Blessed Era of St. Reagangod, and Bob Dole helped lead the noble fight to Take Back Our Country. He and Gingrich founded modern partisan bitterness and gridlock.

F*ck you, Bob. This shiat today is your fault as much as anyone's.


Well said.  The "Contract On America" was the real beginning of the Us vs. Them politics of today as well as the beginning of the notion that the country needs to be "taken back" --  as if "Them" stole it in some way.
 
2014-07-26 02:36:42 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Bob Dole likes to alternate between appearing reasonable and throwing out "he's a dictator socialist" lately.


My grandpa is like that. He's about Bob's age. He can't stand democrats but he hates the "brown folks and homos are destroying America bullshiat"

He also hated Reagan and voted for JFK so he's probably a rino these days
 
2014-07-26 02:37:49 PM  
A junior officer who survived his first few minutes of combat in WWII?

I should listen to him out of respect...

Nah....he was divisive as Newtie but he had better jokes.
 
2014-07-26 02:39:54 PM  

shanrick: Both parties need to learn compromise

[i.imgur.com image 300x369]


Your statement implies that both sides are the same.  Can you show me one instance where the GOBaggers offered to work with the Democrats and the Democrats said "fark you"?

No?
 
2014-07-26 02:41:22 PM  

b0rg9: Kibbler: No, partisan bitterness and gridlock were not as bad back then. Until 1992 when a Satanic rapist and his uppity wife stole Murica, ending The Blessed Era of St. Reagangod, and Bob Dole helped lead the noble fight to Take Back Our Country. He and Gingrich founded modern partisan bitterness and gridlock.

F*ck you, Bob. This shiat today is your fault as much as anyone's.

Well said.  The "Contract On America" was the real beginning of the Us vs. Them politics of today as well as the beginning of the notion that the country needs to be "taken back" --  as if "Them" stole it in some way.


Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."

Rather than welcome the shift in the Democrats to come to the table--going so far as to get NAFTA approved and a few other Republican measures--folks decided that they had to be shrill and be the less than loyal opposition. Because they were the anointed few. Clinton's plan unfortunately backfired, with the rise of a media empire based upon PR and flackery, and it became the de facto news source, and a wonderful outlet for the NeoCon publishing efforts, and it created a whole new industry for generating consent through sponsored scholarship with relative little basis in fact or truth. It was the Ivory Tower dream of the NeoCons come true. And they used, and continue to use, this cottage industry to present papers, books, and studies that are essentially sponsored with their results already in chosen, they just have to massage the messaging and the means to get to those findings. It is poor scholarship, and poor policy making, but it pays really well, and it relies upon someone else cleaning up the mess that they make, and all the while someone cleans up those messes, they complain that they're not doing it fast enough, or well enough, and weakening the nation by doing so. It is win-win, if you have no ethics or shame.
 
2014-07-26 02:42:32 PM  
The idea of compromising is deader than Bob Dole's dick.
 
2014-07-26 02:46:02 PM  

Linux_Yes: What About Bob?


We should take baby steps towards an agreement.
 
2014-07-26 02:46:33 PM  

hubiestubert: Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."


I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why?  Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?  I mean, why couldn't the Republicans say, "You know we're pretty much all in agreement on this, which makes it a non-issue.  Glad we could get something done together that makes everyone happy".  Why have so many people so willingly boarded the crazytrain for derptown--to the point that they are in full opposition against policies that were championed by "the Right" years ago?
 
2014-07-26 02:51:19 PM  

born_yesterday: hubiestubert: Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."

I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why?  Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?  I mean, why couldn't the Republicans say, "You know we're pretty much all in agreement on this, which makes it a non-issue.  Glad we could get something done together that makes everyone happy".  Why have so many people so willingly boarded the crazytrain for derptown--to the point that they are in full opposition against policies that were championed by "the Right" years ago?


It's simple.  Really simple.

The GOP is, literally, "God's Own Party".  This is what conservatives actually believe.  Therefore, if they were to admit they were wrong about something, God would be wrong, too.  The same thing goes with "compromising" with the Democrats.  You see, since the GOP is for God, the Democrats are obviously for Satan, else they would be Republicans.
 
2014-07-26 02:51:41 PM  
It wasn't BOTH sides that fncked you over last time, Bob.

stmedia.startribune.com
 
2014-07-26 02:56:27 PM  

born_yesterday: hubiestubert: Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."

I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why?  Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?  I mean, why couldn't the Republicans say, "You know we're pretty much all in agreement on this, which makes it a non-issue.  Glad we could get something done together that makes everyone happy".  Why have so many people so willingly boarded the crazytrain for derptown--to the point that they are in full opposition against policies that were championed by "the Right" years ago?


The rise of the Gingrich style right is predicated on "us" always being right and "them" always being wrong. It's not about policy goals exactly. It's about perpetually trying to grind your opponent into dust. Clinton could have embraced the entire Republican Platform and the response would have been "there goes that Slick Willie bullshiat again". It's how the Obama is a feckless golfer yet dictator idea doesn't cause cognitive dissonance.
 
2014-07-26 02:57:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It wasn't BOTH sides that fncked you over last time, Bob.


I've never been a big Dole fan but that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
 
2014-07-26 02:57:37 PM  

born_yesterday: hubiestubert: Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."

I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why?  Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?  I mean, why couldn't the Republicans say, "You know we're pretty much all in agreement on this, which makes it a non-issue.  Glad we could get something done together that makes everyone happy".  Why have so many people so willingly boarded the crazytrain for derptown--to the point that they are in full opposition against policies that were championed by "the Right" years ago?


In the case of the NeoCons, they had been outliers in the party. Reagan and Bush helped them come to the center, and they came in hard. They came in, started taking up key positions, and they were still in a siege mentality. With the fall of Communism, with the rise of global economics in terms of needing less adversarial relationships, and without enemies from without to focus upon, their thinking was then turned to the enemies within. And faced with adversaries that were taking their positions, in order to appear viable, and fearing being cast off into the wilderness again, they moved to create conflict and the appearance of a battle for the heartland, because their sort of politics NEEDS adversaries that are just horrible in comparison to their own virtuous, brilliant selves. Even if that means taking on issues that are ethically and morally repugnant, so long as they can spin the positions to appear to be virtuous, they do so. It's about preserving "traditional values" it's about preserving "market integrity" it's about fighting "socialism." There's is a politics that is inherently adversarial. And until the party can push these asshats out, or marginalize them again, we are going to continue down this particular road, and it's really up to the electorate to make them irrelevant. We need to stop voting for dumb asshats because they have the proper appellation at the end of their name. We need to choose better, and until we do, we're going to see these Ivory Tower idiots keep pushing this sort of agenda.
 
2014-07-26 02:59:13 PM  

BSABSVR: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It wasn't BOTH sides that fncked you over last time, Bob.

I've never been a big Dole fan but that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


He was a good soldier, and he fell on his sword against Clinton, and for that, he was boned by the party, and at the time, I was gravely disappointed with the leadership for this. He sacrificed his career for the good of the party, and not a damn one in the Crazy Train ever thanked him for his service.
 
2014-07-26 03:01:21 PM  

hubiestubert: BSABSVR: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It wasn't BOTH sides that fncked you over last time, Bob.

I've never been a big Dole fan but that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

He was a good soldier, and he fell on his sword against Clinton, and for that, he was boned by the party, and at the time, I was gravely disappointed with the leadership for this. He sacrificed his career for the good of the party, and not a damn one in the Crazy Train ever thanked him for his service.


Does the hive thank the drone for doing its duty?  I think not.
 
2014-07-26 03:07:46 PM  

born_yesterday: I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why? Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?


Watergate. The Republicans have been nursing that butthurt for decades.
 
2014-07-26 03:08:07 PM  

hubiestubert: BSABSVR: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It wasn't BOTH sides that fncked you over last time, Bob.

I've never been a big Dole fan but that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

He was a good soldier, and he fell on his sword against Clinton, and for that, he was boned by the party, and at the time, I was gravely disappointed with the leadership for this. He sacrificed his career for the good of the party, and not a damn one in the Crazy Train ever thanked him for his service.


"Former Senate Republican Leader Bob Dole came to the Senate floor Tuesday to make a personal appeal for lawmakers to ratify a United Nations treaty for people with disabilities.
...
But Dole's presence ultimately failed to sway enough Republican votes. The treaty was defeated 61-38; a two-thirds vote was required for ratification.
The U.N. treaty is aimed at protecting the rights of the disabled. But most Republican senators opposed it, arguing that it could risk the sovereignty of the United States."

Yeah, I recall thinking that this was going to be THE low point of that Republican Congress.  Boy, was I wrong!
 
2014-07-26 03:11:07 PM  
Bob Dole is what Mitt Romney would call "a loser for life."
 
2014-07-26 03:12:16 PM  
I was still a pup when Dole ran, but I recall him suddenly demonstrating a great sense of humor...AFTER the election. If he had just removed that stick he carried in his ass throughout the campaign trail he might have actually won.

You won't often find me in strict agreement with ole Bob, but I certainly respect the man. Whatever his faults (real or perceived), he represents a generation of lawmakers who brokered agreements, in stark contrast to the petulant, intransigent f*cknuggets currently masquerading as GOP lawmakers.
 
2014-07-26 03:21:20 PM  

theorellior: born_yesterday: I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why? Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?

Watergate. The Republicans have been nursing that butthurt for decades.


I don't think so. What they can't get past is the Archie Bunker Problem, where straight white WASP males are always and automatically better
 
2014-07-26 03:27:21 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: A junior officer who survived his first few minutes of combat in WWII?

I should listen to him out of respect...

Nah....he was divisive as Newtie but he had better jokes.


You have to give Dole a bit of credit- he did work with combat veterans like Akaka, Innoye,  Kerrey and Kerry across the aisle on veteran's issues and with vet Harkin on the ADA in the Senate.  It was disgraceful when today's GOTP disrespected him to his face on the Senate floor, all for a cheap political stunt to appease the paranoid anti-UN delusions  that Glenn Beck and the rest of the talk radio ranters had whipped up in the Teahadist base.
 
2014-07-26 03:30:57 PM  

hubiestubert: and it relies upon someone else cleaning up the mess that they make, and all the while someone cleans up those messes, they complain that they're not doing it fast enough, or well enough, and weakening the nation by doing so. It is win-win, if you have no ethics or shame.



This right here is what depresses me most.  Governing the USA is not about a game of fifty-two card pickup.
 
2014-07-26 03:32:59 PM  

Kibbler: theorellior: born_yesterday: I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why? Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?

Watergate. The Republicans have been nursing that butthurt for decades.

I don't think so. What they can't get past is the Archie Bunker Problem, where straight white WASP males are always and automatically better


Nixon's whole second campaign was predicated on the Archie Bunker vote ("Silent Majority"). The fact that Watergate took their guy down solidified the butthurt and made it metastasize.
 
2014-07-26 03:36:12 PM  
For the past 30-40 years, the Republicans have defined the political center as wherever they're standing at any time. And for at least the last 20 years, they've been moving further to the right, always demanding that the Democrats meet them in the middle, except that's no longer the middle.

By pandering to the radical right, they normalized the radicals and radicalized the normals. Thus, the simplest, most sensible ideas like universal healthcare and alternative energy, become "too extreme" for the nation.
 
2014-07-26 03:39:18 PM  
Bob Dole is left of Obama, making him the libbyist lib.
 
2014-07-26 03:40:18 PM  

sugardave: Your statement implies that both sides are the same.  Can you show me one instance where the GOBaggers offered to work with the Democrats and the Democrats said "fark you"?

No?


Obama has compromised to the point where the Republicans have turned that around to saying that he's ineffectual. On the off days when he's not an oppressive despot.
 
2014-07-26 03:42:53 PM  

dickfreckle: I was still a pup when Dole ran, but I recall him suddenly demonstrating a great sense of humor...AFTER the election. If he had just removed that stick he carried in his ass throughout the campaign trail he might have actually won.


I had a friend that worked for C-SPAN when Dole was a Senator.  He said almost exactly the same thing right after the election.  According to him, Dole was never one to shy away from a dirty joke.  He was also apparently instructed by his campaign advisers to be a stick in the mud, IIRC because it was thought to be "more presidential".
 
2014-07-26 03:55:25 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: By pandering to the radical right, they normalized the radicals and radicalized the normals. Thus, the simplest, most sensible ideas like universal healthcare and alternative energy, become "too extreme" for the nation.



Yep.  Never thought in my almost 50 years that I'd be seeing us fighting alternative energy or affordable healthcare, but here we are.

I feel both bad and happy for the younger generation.  I feel bad because you're all sort of farked in your youth with some of these ideals still strongly held.  But I feel happy that it seems inevitable that these regressive positions will fade in the next decades.

Y'all are just gonna have to be patient.  You may be pleasantly surprised, too.  I'm seeing marijuana legalization and gay marriage where I think, at a point, I'd written it off.
 
2014-07-26 04:26:53 PM  
That's a cute bumper sticker, Bob. But compromise is only possible when both sides start with rational positions and have reality-based representatives.
 
2014-07-26 04:35:00 PM  

born_yesterday: hubiestubert: Well, Clinton did. He came in as a centerist, and he adopted many of the issues that were traditionally Republican, and tainted the waters according to folks like Rove and his ilk, and thus, you saw folks swerve harder Right. It was the beginning of the drive to make the NeoCons and the Religious Right and the Lunatic Fringe the "base."

I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why?  Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?  I mean, why couldn't the Republicans say, "You know we're pretty much all in agreement on this, which makes it a non-issue.  Glad we could get something done together that makes everyone happy".  Why have so many people so willingly boarded the crazytrain for derptown--to the point that they are in full opposition against policies that were championed by "the Right" years ago?


Newt helped poison the well by pushing partisanship very efficiently. . .


  As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that "language matters." In the video "We are a Majority," Language is listed as a key mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates we have heard a plaintive plea: "I wish I could speak like Newt."

   That takes years of practice. But, we believe that you could have a significant impact on your campaign and the way you communicate if we help a little. That is why we have created this list of words and phrases.

   This list is prepared so that you might have a directory of words to use in writing literature and mail, in preparing speeches, and in producing electronic media. The words and phrases are powerful. Read them. Memorize as many as possible. And remember that like any tool, these words will not help if they are not used.

   While the list could be the size of the latest "College Edition" dictionary, we have attempted to keep it small enough to be readily useful yet large enough to be broadly functional. The list is divided into two sections: Optimistic Positive Governing words and phrases to help describe your vision for the future of your community (your message) and Contrasting words to help you clearly define the policies and record of your opponent and the Democratic party.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

But part of it is, Republicans needed outrage to rally their base in the 90s.

The party faces a crisis of confidence that has many symptoms -- repudiation in the most sophisticated parts of the country, widespread distrust of the Republican leadership, an inability to speak coherently on issues. All of them grow out of the same root cause: a vain search to rediscover the formula that made that unformulaic President, Ronald Reagan, so broadly appealing -- even beloved. Congressional Republicans triumphed decisively in 1994 on such Reaganite issues as free trade, welfare reform, and shrinking the government. But thanks to a deficit-dissolving economy and a dwindling memory of the Cold War, those issues were of declining importance even then, and they have given way to a bipartisan consensus. "Consensus," of course, is only another way of describing the issues that have been takenoffthe table. What remains for the party to talk about? On first thought, not much. The Republican strategist Ed Gillespie says, "We're like the dog that caught the bus."

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98jun/gop.htm

/I realize that I post quotes from that Caldwell piece a lot, but it says a great deal about the problems faced by the GOP today, and it was written by a conservative concerned about the future of his party, so it can't be ignored as "liberal media herpderp."
//Maybe the rise of Southern Republicans in Congress grew intense when a "scalawag" like Clinton was elected president. . .
 
2014-07-26 04:41:09 PM  

b0rg9: Bith Set Me Up: By pandering to the radical right, they normalized the radicals and radicalized the normals. Thus, the simplest, most sensible ideas like universal healthcare and alternative energy, become "too extreme" for the nation.


Yep.  Never thought in my almost 50 years that I'd be seeing us fighting alternative energy or affordable healthcare, but here we are.

I feel both bad and happy for the younger generation.  I feel bad because you're all sort of farked in your youth with some of these ideals still strongly held.  But I feel happy that it seems inevitable that these regressive positions will fade in the next decades.

Y'all are just gonna have to be patient.  You may be pleasantly surprised, too.  I'm seeing marijuana legalization and gay marriage where I think, at a point, I'd written it off.

I'm 26, so I was a teenager throughout much of George W. Bush's presidency. I had to come of age in a "watch what you say" administration, where disagreeing to any degree was awful. And as a Muslim, it was so much harder, having to always be seen as an "other", to always bear the collective guilt of America's "ultimate" enemy. Not allowed to stay silent or be accused of abetting/approving of awful acts, yet never allowed to speak out or be accused of rabble-rousing. The only silver lining to this was that this was the first time I'd thought critically about my faith.

My political views first took shape in 2006 when I started college, and voted heavily Democratic in the 2006 election, disappointed by the GOP at that time. For the 2008 election, I was still inclined towards the Democrats, but I didn't know what to think about Obama (I'd wanted John Edwards). I was ambivalent about him until the GOP got Sarah Palin. Yet despite leaning leftward, I'd never had very strong thoughts about the GOP until the 2012 election, when I finally realized their true hopes of demolishing the American government so that the very wealthy few would turn their profits. 2013 was my breaking point, when the Republicans refused to back the Sandy Hook gun bill in April, and their petty shutdown in October.
 
2014-07-26 05:35:29 PM  
Bob Dole.
 
2014-07-26 05:39:26 PM  

Notabunny: That's a cute bumper sticker, Bob. But compromise is only possible when both sides start with rational positions and have reality-based representatives.


Also, it requires that both sides are willing to bargain in good faith, which the Congressional Republicans have repeatedly demonstrated they are unwilling to do.
 
2014-07-26 06:12:30 PM  
Bob Dole is a war hero who left bits and pieces of himself in Europe fighting to protect the rights of cheetoh-stained retards to display their ignorance on social media while waiting for mommy to pick them up from Neckbeard-Com.
 
2014-07-26 06:13:29 PM  

theorellior: Kibbler: theorellior: born_yesterday: I guess this question could be rhetorical, but why? Why is there a human need for this adversarial positioning, or is that cultural to us?

Watergate. The Republicans have been nursing that butthurt for decades.

I don't think so. What they can't get past is the Archie Bunker Problem, where straight white WASP males are always and automatically better

Nixon's whole second campaign was predicated on the Archie Bunker vote ("Silent Majority"). The fact that Watergate took their guy down solidified the butthurt and made it metastasize.


True about Nixon's strategy, and, I think, it proves my point.  People today are not walking around with outrage about Watergate.  Let's face it, it was a long time ago, most people are either too young, or their attention span is too short.  But resentment about losing the Top Dog spot is evergreen.  What you hear is "I want a solid steel wall along every foot of our border and I don't want to see brown people voting because we know that's always fraud," not "I want it proven that DemoRATs crucified an innocent Nixon."

But I don't know, maybe that's what you mean by metastasize.
 
2014-07-26 06:18:36 PM  

carrion_luggage: Bob Dole is a war hero who left bits and pieces of himself in Europe fighting to protect the rights of cheetoh-stained retards to display their ignorance on social media while waiting for mommy to pick them up from Neckbeard-Com.


And John Kerry was a deserter who lied about his desertion when he totally deserted, in contrast to Dubya who totally defended Murica amirite?

And Joe Walsh (former congressman, not musician) was totally right about Tammy Duckworth just using her conveniently blown off legs to get herself a sweet position of Libby Lib Tyrant amirite?

Yes Bob Dole served bravely in World War II and was gravely wounded.  Can you point out in this thread when it was said otherwise?  Do you think that military service justifies everything someone does, or fails to do, after that service?

3 troll points for combination of "cheeto-stained," "mommy" and "neckbeard."
 
2014-07-26 06:28:07 PM  

Kibbler: 3 troll points for combination of "cheeto-stained," "mommy" and "neckbeard."


There was no mention of a basement.
 
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