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2014-07-26 09:26:26 AM  
I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.
 
2014-07-26 09:32:01 AM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


Big Sugar has always been huge in South Florida. Somewhat less now, but they still are fighting the fight.
 
2014-07-26 09:39:11 AM  
Why won't Florida GOP leaders talk about hunting trips to King Ranch in Texas?

Because that's where they hunt the most dangerous game of them all?
 
2014-07-26 09:45:17 AM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


FTFA: Just last year, for instance, the Legislature approved, and Gov. Scott signed, a bill that promises to save the industry millions on pollution cleanup in the Everglades.

A Times/Herald analysis shows that since late 2011, U.S. Sugar paid more than $95,000 to the Republican Party of Florida for at least 20 weekend trips


Sounds like they got a good deal to me.
 
2014-07-26 10:14:07 AM  
I used to do environmental surveys around Lake Okeechobee. The biggest reason the Everglades are dying is due to Big Sugar ripping up thousands and thousands of acres of natural water flow to plant sugar. Do you think they are going to let that go easily?
 
2014-07-26 10:22:56 AM  
This:

www.king-ranch.com

used to be Everglades. Do you see why they want Republicans on their side?
 
2014-07-26 10:31:23 AM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


They used to get wars in central America. And the whole cuba dictatorship in the 50s
 
2014-07-26 10:33:02 AM  
FTA:

Asked why he couldn't say whether he went on the trips, Whitis said that's not what U.S. Sugar pays him for. "I don't talk to the media," he said, "just like I don't do brain surgery or grow tulips."

It seems like we are reaching for new levels of equivocation here.
 
2014-07-26 10:33:39 AM  
And the polluted runoff only has one place to go, which is what's left of the Everglades. It's a phenomenal ecological disaster that would do the USSR and China proud.
 
2014-07-26 10:36:47 AM  

AntiNerd: FTA:

Asked why he couldn't say whether he went on the trips, Whitis said that's not what U.S. Sugar pays him for. "I don't talk to the media," he said, "just like I don't do brain surgery or grow tulips."

It seems like we are reaching for new levels of equivocation here.


Republicans talking to media without making fools of themselves is as likely as the layman successfully performing brain surgery.

But the tulips thing I don't get.
 
2014-07-26 10:45:20 AM  
Big Sugar is why most food processors switched to HFCS. It's heavily protected from Caribbean and Brazilian sugar, while corn is heavily subsidized. If the sugar tariffs were repealed I wouldn't be surprised to see the price of sugar halve.
 
2014-07-26 10:45:55 AM  
I blame the people drinking Kosher or Mexican Coca-Cola.

/Not really but damn, how much sweetener can one country really need?
 
2014-07-26 10:47:47 AM  

Smackledorfer: But the tulips thing I don't get.


He's saying it's the division of labor. His job is to protect Big Sugar. He doesn't operate on brains, grow tulips or talk to the media. Instead he hires a brain surgeon, a florist or a PR flack.
 
2014-07-26 10:48:36 AM  

EngineerAU: /Not really but damn, how much sweetener can one country really need?


www.drupal.org
 
2014-07-26 10:50:13 AM  
Wow. Literal sugar daddies.
 
2014-07-26 10:52:43 AM  

quatchi: EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.

FTFA: Just last year, for instance, the Legislature approved, and Gov. Scott signed, a bill that promises to save the industry millions on pollution cleanup in the Everglades.

A Times/Herald analysis shows that since late 2011, U.S. Sugar paid more than $95,000 to the Republican Party of Florida for at least 20 weekend trips

Sounds like they got a good deal to me.


If you are going to betray the public trust and whore yourself out, I only wish they would charge more.
 
2014-07-26 10:55:38 AM  

theorellior: EngineerAU: /Not really but damn, how much sweetener can one country really need?

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2014-07-26 10:58:56 AM  
www.btchflcks.com

Unavailable for comment.
 
2014-07-26 11:00:05 AM  

Smackledorfer: AntiNerd: FTA:

Asked why he couldn't say whether he went on the trips, Whitis said that's not what U.S. Sugar pays him for. "I don't talk to the media," he said, "just like I don't do brain surgery or grow tulips."

It seems like we are reaching for new levels of equivocation here.

Republicans talking to media without making fools of themselves is as likely as the layman successfully performing brain surgery.

But the tulips thing I don't get.


Real men don't grow flowers!
 
2014-07-26 11:01:05 AM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


Cuban embargo.
 
2014-07-26 11:03:11 AM  

Confabulat: This:

[www.king-ranch.com image 585x320]

used to be Everglades. Do you see why they want Republicans on their side?


Why do you hate that one guy in the tractor's job?
 
2014-07-26 11:09:03 AM  
Fanjul family can't compete on the world sugar market without subsidies. Buying the Republican Party of Florida is cheap insurance. Big Sugar pollutes the water and the air, while paying their workforce next to nothing.
 
2014-07-26 11:12:32 AM  

WickerNipple: Why do you hate that one guy in the tractor's job?


Wait till the Republicans find out he's an illegal immigrant.
 
2014-07-26 11:16:39 AM  
I feel bad now for loving suger.
 
2014-07-26 11:18:03 AM  
First you get the sugar...
 
2014-07-26 11:20:26 AM  

quatchi: Why won't Florida GOP leaders talk about hunting trips to King Ranch in Texas?

Because that's where they hunt the most dangerous game of them all?


i.stack.imgur.com


Disapproves.
 
2014-07-26 11:24:45 AM  

Stoj: First you get the sugar...


Then you get the power...
 
2014-07-26 11:27:55 AM  
So they're using the Sgt. Schultz defense
 
GBB
2014-07-26 11:28:16 AM  

Smackledorfer: AntiNerd: FTA:

Asked why he couldn't say whether he went on the trips, Whitis said that's not what U.S. Sugar pays him for. "I don't talk to the media," he said, "just like I don't do brain surgery or grow tulips."

It seems like we are reaching for new levels of equivocation here.

Republicans talking to media without making fools of themselves is as likely as the layman successfully performing brain surgery.

But the tulips thing I don't get.


The brain surgery line means that it's something he doesn't know how to do because he lacks the skill or knowledge.  The tulip line means that it's something he doesn't want to do even though he might be able to do it; he lacks the motivation and/or the desire to do it; there's no value in it for him.
 
2014-07-26 11:30:49 AM  

pacochu: Stoj: First you get the sugar...

Then you get the power...


.....and then you get the votes.
 
2014-07-26 11:48:31 AM  

pacochu: Stoj: First you get the sugar...

Then you get the power...


The strong must defend the sweet....
 
2014-07-26 11:50:13 AM  

GBB:
The brain surgery line means that it's something he doesn't know how to do because he lacks the skill or knowledge.  The tulip line means that it's something he doesn't want to do even though he might be able to do it; he lacks the motivation and/or the desire to do it; there's no value in it for him.

What he really did not want to do is answer the question. There is no value in it for him.
 
2014-07-26 12:03:17 PM  
Meanwhile the libtards are on a Splenda cruise. Both sides are bad so use Equal.
 
2014-07-26 12:03:56 PM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.



Price fixing perks, Dinky.    ain't Freeedom great!
 
2014-07-26 12:10:54 PM  
The Booger Sugar Industry is doin' real well in Florida too!


ain't Freedom great!
 
2014-07-26 12:41:27 PM  

HighOnCraic: quatchi: Why won't Florida GOP leaders talk about hunting trips to King Ranch in Texas?

Because that's where they hunt the most dangerous game of them all?

[i.stack.imgur.com image 587x295]

Disapproves.


I was waiting for someone to have some fun with that. Thanks!

Rann Xerox: pacochu: Stoj: First you get the sugar...

Then you get the power...

.....and then you get the votes.


Then you get the Beetus?
 
2014-07-26 01:48:08 PM  
So

Sugar industry hands a politician a big stack of cash and he uses it to buy a luxury hunting trip = bribery

Sugar pays for politician's luxury hunting trip = legal and none of your business.

Seems legit
 
2014-07-26 02:02:30 PM  
Have I ever told you just how much I despise Big Sugar?

...and SFWMD

Because I do.
 
2014-07-26 02:11:16 PM  

Confabulat: I used to do environmental surveys around Lake Okeechobee. The biggest reason the Everglades are dying is due to Big Sugar ripping up thousands and thousands of acres of natural water flow to plant sugar. Do you think they are going to let that go easily?


Confabulat: This:

[www.king-ranch.com image 585x320]

used to be Everglades. Do you see why they want Republicans on their side?


As the state purchases land from Big Sugar, ruined by Big Sugar, for everglades restoration projects, there's a doubleplus good in it for Big Sugar to court whichever party is creating/signing off on budgets.  Currently, that's the GOP.

/ I said rape three times.
 
2014-07-26 02:14:08 PM  
Big Sugar has been polluting the Everglades for decades, and now that it needs to be cleaned up, they want you to pay for it. The Gov et al. are very OK with that.
Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-07-26 02:21:10 PM  

Richard Saunders: Have I ever told you just how much I despise Big Sugar?


I don't know. Turn the Lights On is a pretty decent song.
 
2014-07-26 02:34:26 PM  
Any Florida politician accepting money from the sugar industry needs to be captured in the dead of night, driven out into the middle of what remains of the Everglades, and left to die. We have lost half of the historical size of the Everglades and continued to pollute the waters and choke off native habitat for over a hundred years due to fertilizer run-off, disruption of the water flow from Lake Okeechobee, planting of invasive species such as the melaleuca tree, overall efforts to inhibit paying for and providing land for restoration, and more in the name of this industry. F*ck the sugar industry, Rick Scott, and anyone else accepting what any fool should recognize is a bribe.
 
2014-07-26 04:21:39 PM  

AntiNerd: FTA:

Asked why he couldn't say whether he went on the trips, Whitis said that's not what U.S. Sugar pays him for. "I don't talk to the media," he said, "just like I don't do brain surgery or grow tulips."

It seems like we are reaching for new levels of equivocation here.


O_o
 
m00
2014-07-26 05:22:06 PM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


Subsidies for a wildly profitable multi-billion dollar operation that doesn't want to follow labor or environmental laws?
 
2014-07-26 07:19:19 PM  

beakerxf: So

Sugar industry hands a politician a big stack of cash and he uses it to buy a luxury hunting trip = bribery

Sugar pays for politician's luxury hunting trip = legal and none of your business.

Seems legit


No, the sugar industry gave the money to the Florida GOP to support the goals of the party, and the Florida GOP just happened to coincidentally decide that the best way to further their goals  was to send Rick Scott on a hunting trip at a lodge owned by the sugar industry.

It's all on the up-and-up.
 
2014-07-26 08:16:02 PM  
Cheney needs to get invited on every GOP King Ranch hunting trip. And it's not over 'til he bags something.

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2014-07-26 08:31:09 PM  

The Larch: beakerxf: So

Sugar industry hands a politician a big stack of cash and he uses it to buy a luxury hunting trip = bribery

Sugar pays for politician's luxury hunting trip = legal and none of your business.

Seems legit

No, the sugar industry gave the money to the Florida GOP to support the goals of the party, and the Florida GOP just happened to coincidentally decide that the best way to further their goals  was to send Rick Scott on a hunting trip at a lodge owned by the sugar industry.

It's all on the up-and-up.


Ah, I get it now. It was categorized as a fundraising trip. Funds were raised and promptly spent.

I feel foolish for even questioning it.
 
2014-07-26 09:30:03 PM  

theorellior: Smackledorfer: But the tulips thing I don't get.

He's saying it's the division of labor. His job is to protect Big Sugar. He doesn't operate on brains, grow tulips or talk to the media. Instead he hires a brain surgeon, a florist or a PR flack.


And all the while I thought he meant "two lips." As in, suck it Tea Baggers.
 
2014-07-26 10:20:03 PM  

EvilEgg: I am not sure what kind of perks the sugar industry is getting from these trips.


The right to continue to pollute S Florida for years after they sold their property.
 
2014-07-27 05:37:07 PM  

BitwiseShift: Cheney needs to get invited on every GOP King Ranch hunting trip. And it's not over 'til he bags something.someone

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ftfy
 
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