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(Calgary Herald)   Fertility clinic tells white woman she can only choose white semen. She was okay with that until they also said she can only choose from white donors   (calgaryherald.com) divider line 178
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2014-07-26 03:50:43 AM  
"I would ask you, why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?"

I would ask, why do you think it's appropriate for you to be the one to make that decision for them?

But to answer the above question, there are genetic benefits to hybridization.
 
2014-07-26 07:30:15 AM  

Ambivalence: "I would ask you, why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?"

I would ask, why do you think it's appropriate for you to be the one to make that decision for them?

But to answer the above question, there are genetic benefits to hybridization.


And the reverse can be bad, if you catch my genetic drift.
 
2014-07-26 07:31:42 AM  
White cum, white donors... It's all semen-tics.
 
2014-07-26 07:32:07 AM  
FTA: "it is the practice of the Regional Fertility Program not to permit the use of a sperm donor that would result in a future child appearing racially different than the recipient or the recipient's partner.  ...a child of an ethnic background should have the ability to be able to identify with their ethnic roots.   Patients should have a "cultural connection" to their donors. "


Yeah, ain't that about the nicest way I've ever heard someone explain being a big fat racial purity bigot.
 
2014-07-26 07:34:50 AM  
Someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know the difference between culture and nature. And someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know that race does not exist, genetically speaking.

Somebody in this story wasted their years in college, it looks like. Shame.
 
2014-07-26 07:35:44 AM  
"patients must go to Edmonton, Saskatoon, Vancouver,   Walla Walla, Keokuk, Cucamonga  , Seattle... "


HEY HEY!
 
2014-07-26 07:35:47 AM  
If only there were some other way for a woman to get some semen...
 
2014-07-26 07:38:10 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know the difference between culture and nature. And someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know that race does not exist, genetically speaking.

Somebody in this story wasted their years in college, it looks like. Shame.


What I don't get is this is happening in Canada which is supposed to be this giant socialist country, why is this kind of policy even legal?  I realize that bigotry exists in Canada, but why is it legal int his instance?
 
2014-07-26 07:38:48 AM  
Is Calgary the Alabama of Canada?
Normally, I would say let the guy run the business (into the ground) the way he wants, but he's managed to stay in business for 30 years. Aren't there discrimination laws in Canada?
 
2014-07-26 07:40:00 AM  
I disagree with the idea that there needs to be a cultural connection because someone's culture is what (s)he grows up in, not some ethnic inborn knowledge and the history of "their" people is in the past so just keep it there. I do, however, agree with having one of the parents resembling the donor. Nobody gets to saddle a child with the obvious teasing that will come from the parents wanting to have a half [whatever they are not] child for shiats and giggles. Children are assholes and a child doesn't need a visual reminder for other children that his/her parents don't look like him/her.

/Also: there is a reason for the saying "To beat someone like a red headed step-child".
 
2014-07-26 07:40:14 AM  

Ambivalence: "I would ask you, why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?"

I would ask, why do you think it's appropriate for you to be the one to make that decision for them?

But to answer the above question, there are genetic benefits to hybridization.


That's not what's wrong with the question, tho. Cultural background will be determined as the child is raised, not by the color of their own or their parents' skin.
 
2014-07-26 07:40:46 AM  
She wasn't spooge-worthy.
 
2014-07-26 07:41:58 AM  
Who wants a white baby nowadays? If I could choose, I would have a mixed child.
/single and gay
 
2014-07-26 07:43:08 AM  
Huh? Wha? All of the reasoning given by the clinic is severely flawed or a matter of opinion at best. Boggles my mind that this is even an issue. If a white chick goes to a sperm bank and asks for some interracial spunk that is none of their business and she is a paying customer just say "Absolutely! that will be 27.50 plus materials, unless you provide your own turkey baster"

My favorite reason was that they wanted to avoid designer babies... Uh if you can pick from a pool of donors and say I want a 6'2" white guy with blue eyes and a ivy league education that is by definition a designer baby.
 
2014-07-26 07:43:47 AM  
So they are a fertile couple, but just shopping for designer colors?

www.daviespaints.com.ph
 
2014-07-26 07:45:52 AM  
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2014-07-26 07:47:37 AM  
I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?
 
2014-07-26 07:49:41 AM  
White COUPLE that wants a 'mixed' baby?


Sounds more like a fetish to me.
 
2014-07-26 07:51:22 AM  
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2014-07-26 07:51:59 AM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know the difference between culture and nature. And someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know that race does not exist, genetically speaking.

Somebody in this story wasted their years in college, it looks like. Shame.


According to Wikipedia "In the 20th century, "culture" emerged as a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of human phenomena that cannot be directly attributed to genetic inheritance." (my bold)

You cannot inherit culture. You can inherit physical characteristics which is what the clinic are referring too. To be fair the woman seeking a donor is also attempting the impossible by looking for one who could supply "demeanour and personality"
 
2014-07-26 07:55:12 AM  

filter: White COUPLE that wants a 'mixed' baby?


Sounds more like a fetish to me.


Rolling the dice for a professional athlete.
 
2014-07-26 07:55:23 AM  
Hallmark really needs to make a series of cards : "Congratulations, your company just made global news because you're farkING RETARDED."
 
2014-07-26 07:55:51 AM  
WTF is a "cultural background" these days?  If you're white-looking, you could be from any number of "cultural backgrounds."  MIXED backgrounds, even.

If you're darker, you can still be from a culturally white background...and so on and so forth with asian-looks and whatever the hell else there is out there.

I don't remember having a definite "cultural background" growing up white, unless you count my love of The Clancy Brothers. 
But I love Bob Marley just as much.
 
2014-07-26 07:55:52 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?


This, with an extra side of this to dip this in.  Either they were just mining for a reason to be outraged, want a designer baby, or mom's banging a black dude on the side and is looking for her cover.  Keeping a labelled specimen of every race's baby batter in the freezer might be her goto for divorce prevention.  Hubby must have money.
 
2014-07-26 07:57:19 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-07-26 07:57:21 AM  

jamspoon: You cannot inherit culture. You can inherit physical characteristics which is what the clinic are referring too. To be fair the woman seeking a donor is also attempting the impossible by looking for one who could supply "demeanour and personality"


I don't think that's what she was saying. Rather, she was more concerned with behavioral traits rather than physical ones that the child would inherit from the father, so the color of its skin was unimportant.

Plus, she didn't want to have a child that would have several half-siblings running around the city, since the white donors available to her had already been used numerous times. The man-whores...
 
2014-07-26 07:57:55 AM  

jamspoon: To be fair the woman seeking a donor is also attempting the impossible by looking for one who could supply "demeanour and personality"


Except that that isn't impossible. Behaviour is influenced by various hormones and neurotransmitters, producing more or less of a certain compound, or simply not being very sensitive to a certain hormone or neurotransmitter can therefore be a genetic basis for personality.

Hell, just ask these foxes.
 
2014-07-26 07:58:25 AM  

jamspoon: Coming on a Bicycle: Someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know the difference between culture and nature. And someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know that race does not exist, genetically speaking.

Somebody in this story wasted their years in college, it looks like. Shame.

According to Wikipedia "In the 20th century, "culture" emerged as a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of human phenomena that cannot be directly attributed to genetic inheritance." (my bold)

You cannot inherit culture. You can inherit physical characteristics which is what the clinic are referring too. To be fair the woman seeking a donor is also attempting the impossible by looking for one who could supply "demeanour and personality"


you typed faster than me.

I watched a Comedy Central show (an old one) with a stand-up comic who is totally Asian, but talks like he grew up in the Bronx.  The old Bronx.  It was both fascinating and confusing.

We need more of this sort of confusion, not less.
 
2014-07-26 07:58:27 AM  
As a member of a "mixed" family, I'm offended by this, and I would demand that some Canadian apologize... but I know they're not really into saying "sorry" all that much.

What next? Telling a student just entering med school: "We're afraid we need to kick you out. You see, your father is a coal miner and your mother is a waitress, so you're not part of the medical 'culture'. You need to keep with your own kind."?
 
2014-07-26 08:00:33 AM  
Fertility clinic tells white woman she can only choose white semen. She was okay with that until they also said Informer she can only choose from white donors
 
2014-07-26 08:02:39 AM  

filter: White COUPLE that wants a 'mixed' baby?


Sounds more like a fetish to me.


If you want a mixed baby why not adopt one of the many unwanted ones rather than making one for shiats and giggles?
 
2014-07-26 08:03:18 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?




There could be genetic disorders they want to avoid. He could be a carrier of Tasacs or OI or ginger.
 
2014-07-26 08:08:19 AM  
hitnrun74:
This, with an extra side of this to dip this in.  Either they were just mining for a reason to be outraged, want a designer baby, or mom's banging a black dude on the side and is looking for her cover.  Keeping a labelled specimen of every race's baby batter in the freezer might be her goto for divorce prevention.  Hubby must have money.

The only possible reason I could think of is that the guy has some hereditary genetic disease in his family that he doesn't want to pass on. That's giving them the benefit of the doubt.
However, they may have just done it as a stunt to highlight the clinic's rather dubious policy.
 
2014-07-26 08:09:43 AM  

what_now: No Catchy Nickname: I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?

There could be genetic disorders they want to avoid. He could be a carrier of Tasacs or OI or ginger.



Fu(k you, pal. :)

I'm assuming the male is just a typical cuck whose wife won't even let him touch her.
 
2014-07-26 08:09:46 AM  

what_now: No Catchy Nickname: I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?

There could be genetic disorders they want to avoid. He could be a carrier of Tasacs or OI or ginger.


Heh, you out-typed me.
 
2014-07-26 08:11:24 AM  

filter: White COUPLE that wants a 'mixed' baby?


Sounds more like a fetish to me.


Methinks you are right with this one.
 
2014-07-26 08:13:53 AM  
That's farked up.
 
2014-07-26 08:13:54 AM  

No Catchy Nickname: what_now: No Catchy Nickname: I can see why restrictions might exist (avoid designer babies), but the doctor's own argument was pretty poor.
Nevertheless, if they are not infertile (the article said they were good to go), why not use the male partner's baby-making paste instead of a random donor's?

There could be genetic disorders they want to avoid. He could be a carrier of Tasacs or OI or ginger.

Heh, you out-typed me.


And me too
 
2014-07-26 08:18:02 AM  
Since when does sperm have culture to share or not share?

Is there some sort of arts program going on in my scrotum that I'm not aware of?
 
2014-07-26 08:18:40 AM  

LewDux: Fertility clinic tells white woman she can only choose white semen. She was okay with that until they also said Informer she can only choose from white donors


Lickey boom boom down
 
2014-07-26 08:19:10 AM  
Saw an interesting interview from 1971 about Muhammad Ali's view on race and mixing.

His was against it.
 
2014-07-26 08:22:02 AM  

granolasteak: jamspoon: Coming on a Bicycle: Someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know the difference between culture and nature. And someone, who is apparently a doctor, does not know that race does not exist, genetically speaking.

Somebody in this story wasted their years in college, it looks like. Shame.

According to Wikipedia "In the 20th century, "culture" emerged as a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of human phenomena that cannot be directly attributed to genetic inheritance." (my bold)

You cannot inherit culture. You can inherit physical characteristics which is what the clinic are referring too. To be fair the woman seeking a donor is also attempting the impossible by looking for one who could supply "demeanour and personality"

you typed faster than me.

I watched a Comedy Central show (an old one) with a stand-up comic who is totally Asian, but talks like he grew up in the Bronx.  The old Bronx.  It was both fascinating and confusing.

We need more of this sort of confusion, not less.


Idris Farking Elba.
 
2014-07-26 08:23:26 AM  
I'm more disturbed by the woman's comment at the end of the article about "owning" children.

Perhaps it's better for everybody if she just drops the idea entirely.
 
2014-07-26 08:25:19 AM  

profplump: Since when does sperm have culture to share or not share?

Is there some sort of arts program going on in my scrotum that I'm not aware of?


/imagines 200,000,000 sperm doing a line dance in hilarious stereotypical ethnic garb and smiles
//it's-a me, Spermio!
 
2014-07-26 08:25:48 AM  

DubyaHater: Is Calgary the Alabama of Canada?
Normally, I would say let the guy run the business (into the ground) the way he wants, but he's managed to stay in business for 30 years. Aren't there discrimination laws in Canada?


Calgary is a city. Alberta, however, is the Texas of Canada.
 
2014-07-26 08:29:47 AM  

Bonzo_1116: I'm more disturbed by the woman's comment at the end of the article about "owning" children.

Perhaps it's better for everybody if she just drops the idea entirely.


Yeah, I don't think much of the clinics policy, but TFA doesn't make the couple sound entirely right in the head either.
 
2014-07-26 08:31:14 AM  

socoloco: Saw an interesting interview from 1971 about Muhammad Ali's view on race and mixing.

His was against it.


Well, that's good enough for me. How could a guy who was punched in the head thousands of times by the strongest, fastest, toughest men in the world be wrong about anything?
 
2014-07-26 08:31:17 AM  

stirfrybry: LewDux: Fertility clinic tells white woman she can only choose white semen. She was okay with that until they also said Informer she can only choose from white donors

Lickey boom boom down


Now that's stuck in my head.
 
2014-07-26 08:32:22 AM  

Hilary T. N. Seuss: As a member of a "mixed" family, I'm offended by this, and I would demand that some Canadian apologize... but I know they're not really into saying "sorry" all that much.

What next? Telling a student just entering med school: "We're afraid we need to kick you out. You see, your father is a coal miner and your mother is a waitress, so you're not part of the medical 'culture'. You need to keep with your own kind."?


So you're telling us.... You're proud to be a coal miners daughter?
 
2014-07-26 08:33:13 AM  

Ambivalence: "I would ask you, why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?"

I would ask, why do you think it's appropriate for you to be the one to make that decision for them?

But to answer the above question, there are genetic benefits to hybridization.


Yeah... It's also not a good idea to use the same argument that people used back when interracial marriage was illegal.

/Alberta is the Texas of Canada
 
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