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(SeattlePI)   After investigating for three years, aviation authorities say helicopter crash was caused by "failure to maintain clearance" near mountains. In related news, flying into a mountain makes you crash   (seattlepi.com ) divider line
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2014-07-26 10:08:53 AM  
My failure to maintain clearance from beer and pizza crashed my diet
 
2014-07-26 11:14:49 AM  
News at 11 water is wet and the sky is blue
 
2014-07-26 11:32:19 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
Maybe he was trying to find the secret lair...
 
2014-07-26 11:33:21 AM  
95% of the time it's pilot error. The other 5% of the time it's usually pilot error.
 
2014-07-26 11:34:23 AM  
If only somebody would have shared this wisdom about oceans with JFK Jr. Or his daddy with grassy knolls.

Teh sad.
 
2014-07-26 11:36:17 AM  
Let's not oversimplify things, please. Flying into a mountain while failing to maintain clearance is the problem. Any good helicopter manual will tell you that you should only do this in an emergency, never for thrills or to impress the cute hitchhiker chicks you picked up by the tarmac.
 
2014-07-26 11:39:41 AM  
i91.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-26 11:40:02 AM  
CFIT. Or cumulo-granite.
 
2014-07-26 11:40:12 AM  
CFIT, baby!

/don't let it happen, TO YOU!
 
2014-07-26 11:40:50 AM  
"Maintain thine airspeed. Lest the ground rise up and Smite Thee."
 
2014-07-26 12:00:28 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: CFIT. Or cumulo-granite.


"Controlled Flight Into Terrain", for those unfamiliar with the jargon. For situations when a perfectly functioning plane in clear skies and good weather conditions, under the full control of the pilot and for no discernible reason... collides with the ground.

/happened to a *very* experienced pilot friend of mine a couple of years back, as far as I know they never found a cause.
 
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2014-07-26 12:08:28 PM  
Controlled Flight Into Terrain is like when you pick little Zoë's cup off the floor in the back seat and hand it to her and admonish her brother to stop throwing it and text a picture of the cute little brats making trouble to your BFF and grab your lipstick from the ... hey, why is everybody else driving the wrong w--
 
2014-07-26 12:13:33 PM  
Weird.
It's usually gravity.
 
2014-07-26 12:16:09 PM  
This just in: the ground is hard.
 
2014-07-26 12:39:03 PM  

czetie: JohnAnnArbor: CFIT. Or cumulo-granite.

"Controlled Flight Into Terrain", for those unfamiliar with the jargon. For situations when a perfectly functioning plane in clear skies and good weather conditions, under the full control of the pilot and for no discernible reason... collides with the ground.

/happened to a *very* experienced pilot friend of mine a couple of years back, as far as I know they never found a cause.


I was part of a team that was dispatched to a target range to secure a crash site until the investigators could arrive, the plane (an A-7 corsair if my ancient memory is good) had smashed into a mockup 3 story building at its center, continued through and splattered itself into a debris field the better part of a half mile long behind it. The story we were told later (no idea if its true) was that the pilot was practicing with walleye inert bombs and had either confused his flir for the walleye screen or had gotten target fixation and followed the bomb in
 
2014-07-26 01:15:35 PM  
When you get the wind whip up over that mountain it can play merry hell with your altitude in a small craft. One bad downdraft and you get a really intimate close up of terra firma.
 
2014-07-26 02:24:22 PM  

Pribar: had either confused his flir for the walleye screen or had gotten target fixation and followed the bomb in


Jesus Christ that's a terrifying idea to confuse your FLIR and Walleye screen. "This is going to be the best shack ever... why are we so low?"
 
2014-07-26 03:30:31 PM  
Rule #1 of flying: STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIR.  DON'T GET NEAR THE EDGES OF THE AIR.
 
2014-07-26 04:02:29 PM  
Being a CFI and flying here in Hawaii, me and my fellow pilots get ramp checked on a regular basis from the FFA so we've gotten to know them pretty well. They told us about this crash mainly because half of them are also members of the NTSB crash investigating team for the islands.
     The pilot was a young, fairly inexperienced guy who was flying in very high wind conditions next to the cliffs of Molokai. He was too low and the wind shear coming over the top of the cliffs no only took all his lift away but actually bent the rotors down so hard they cut off the tail rotor of the helicopter. They found the tail section about 50 yards from the crash site. If he would have been only 400-500 ft higher, this wouldn't have happened. Everyone died because he made a poor decision.

/and yes, it is rarely not going to be pilot error.
 
2014-07-26 06:36:07 PM  

dolphinsgonwild: Being a CFI and flying here in Hawaii, me and my fellow pilots get ramp checked on a regular basis from the FFA so we've gotten to know them pretty well. They told us about this crash mainly because half of them are also members of the NTSB crash investigating team for the islands.
     The pilot was a young, fairly inexperienced guy who was flying in very high wind conditions next to the cliffs of Molokai. He was too low and the wind shear coming over the top of the cliffs no only took all his lift away but actually bent the rotors down so hard they cut off the tail rotor of the helicopter. They found the tail section about 50 yards from the crash site. If he would have been only 400-500 ft higher, this wouldn't have happened. Everyone died because he made a poor decision.

/and yes, it is rarely not going to be pilot error.


By the way, if anybody is wondering why we don't have flying cars yet...

/It's a damn sight harder than it looks
//We'll get flying cars when they can fly themselves, and not before
 
2014-07-26 10:49:16 PM  
I have flown in a helicopter once.  In Hawaii. My brothers friend asked me if I wanted to come along for the ride, so I did.  She later outed me for taking acid while watching "The Matrix", so I now hate her.  Fat biatch.
 
2014-07-26 10:49:43 PM  

czetie: JohnAnnArbor: CFIT. Or cumulo-granite.

"Controlled Flight Into Terrain", for those unfamiliar with the jargon. For situations when a perfectly functioning plane in clear skies and good weather conditions, under the full control of the pilot and for no discernible reason... collides with the ground.

/happened to a *very* experienced pilot friend of mine a couple of years back, as far as I know they never found a cause.


Weather has nothing to do with it.
 
2014-07-26 10:51:47 PM  
Correction, weather that is not extreme has nothing to do with it. Microbursts and tornadoes etc notwithstanding.
 
2014-07-27 05:57:39 PM  

czetie: JohnAnnArbor: CFIT. Or cumulo-granite.

"Controlled Flight Into Terrain", for those unfamiliar with the jargon. For situations when a perfectly functioning plane in clear skies and good weather conditions, under the full control of the pilot and for no discernible reason... collides with the ground.

/happened to a *very* experienced pilot friend of mine a couple of years back, as far as I know they never found a cause.


Happens more often in bad weather and/or low visibility. CFIT in clear skies and good visibility is rare.
 
2014-07-27 05:58:44 PM  

Whale Biologist: Correction, weather that is not extreme has nothing to do with it. Microbursts and tornadoes etc notwithstanding.


If a microburst or tornado contributes to the cash, if's not *C*fit.

C = Controlled.
 
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