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(WTOP)   The MD location for restaurant/arcade chain Dave and Busters, once the site of an unofficial perpetual tech job fair during the first dotcom boom, to close its doors after losing a court fight to stay open   (wtop.com) divider line 27
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2491 clicks; posted to Geek » on 25 Jul 2014 at 5:52 PM (43 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-07-25 03:51:46 PM  
Probably a good thing....White Flint Mall is a shopping mall located along Rockville Pike in Montgomery County, Maryland due for closing and demolition in 2014.
 
2014-07-25 05:57:21 PM  

Walker: Probably a good thing....White Flint Mall is a shopping mall located along Rockville Pike in Montgomery County, Maryland due for closing and demolition in 2014.


Again? That mall has had more comebacks than a boomerang.

Funny thing is the reason for tossing them out the other location opening at Arundal Mills is over 50 miles away. As long as their check cleared I would be fine with them.

Got to go there a lot for work so I had fun. But damn the lines for the DDR machines would wrap around the place some nights.
 
2014-07-25 05:59:06 PM  
but now where will the people of Maryland go when they want to spend $7 on well drinks while shelling out $15 for 30 seconds of a shiatty arcade game ?
 
2014-07-25 06:00:13 PM  
That's what they get for farking with Joe.

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2014-07-25 06:04:37 PM  

Stratohead: but now where will the people of Maryland go when they want to spend $7 on well drinks while shelling out $15 for 30 seconds of a shiatty arcade game ?


the d&b in arundel mills
 
2014-07-25 06:26:54 PM  
I've seen people in my Facebook feed expressing surprise and anger about this, and I just don't get it.

The entire rest of the mall is empty. I think only Bloomingdale's is still open, and they have a standalone building which was built right up next to the mall. D and B is on the 2nd floor though, so unlike Bloomingdale's they physically can't leave D and B alone while they tear down the rest of the mall. This is not a surprise.

They told D and B what their plans were a few years ago, and did not renew their lease. Every other store inside the mall during the last 2-3 years or so has been closed. They now have to walk through a derelict mall to get to work every day, to their restaurant with no lease. WTF did they expect was going to happen? The closed mall was just going to be left standing there forever, rotting away underneath them, because they're just that important? They had plenty of time to secure a new location and move in to it. That they did not is a failure of their own making.

White Flint mall had been an outdated waste of space for years now. They have had trouble keeping all of their stores leased for a long time, and the ones they managed to get in there did shiatty business because nobody went to that mall unless they were neighborhood senior citizens walking around, or going to D and B, Cheesecake Factory or PF Chiangs. That was it. It was out of date and crappy.

White Flint wasn't as well stocked as nearby, popular, Montgomery Mall. And Tyson's Corner is only like 20 minutes away (assuming it's not rush hour) and has an utterly ungodly number of stores, including all the "good" ones. Plus Rockville, where White Flint mall is located, is sort of the secret breeding ground of strip malls so by the time you drive down Rockville Pike to get to White Flint you've already passed a bunch of places where you could have bought whatever you are trying to go to White Flint for anyway.

The redevelopment plan is for one of those walkable, outdoor mall complexes with some apartments built in - like Reston Town Center. That's probably a good thing. All I know is that White Flint has sucked for many, many years and most businesses who bought space there have struggled.

/live in the area, obviously
 
2014-07-25 07:06:54 PM  
There's another Dave and Buster's not too far anyway.  No big loss.
 
2014-07-25 07:13:39 PM  

mongbiohazard: I've seen people in my Facebook feed expressing surprise and anger about this, and I just don't get it.


According to the article D&B sued and I guess won against the Mall's earlier attempt to remove them so they could remodel. I guess they had a lawyer go over the contract with a fine tooth comb and realized they could kick them out because of the D&B in Arundel Mills.   Honestly I'm surprised they were so unwilling to move, businesses are strange sometimes.
 
2014-07-25 07:25:34 PM  

MindStalker: mongbiohazard: I've seen people in my Facebook feed expressing surprise and anger about this, and I just don't get it.

According to the article D&B sued and I guess won against the Mall's earlier attempt to remove them so they could remodel. I guess they had a lawyer go over the contract with a fine tooth comb and realized they could kick them out because of the D&B in Arundel Mills.   Honestly I'm surprised they were so unwilling to move, businesses are strange sometimes.


Probably had low overhead there and to move it would cost a lot of money.
 
2014-07-25 07:38:53 PM  
Hmm... have to check the online auction sites for interesting stuff.
 
2014-07-25 07:39:57 PM  
I used to live 5 mins from there and go on Wed. night for half priced games. I'm sad to hear it's going, but they should have planned a relocation years ago. I think once the Borders shut down, that whole mall was farked.
 
2014-07-25 07:54:39 PM  
All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.
 
2014-07-25 07:54:50 PM  
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Judge Titus was not amused.
 
2014-07-25 08:04:16 PM  

MindStalker: mongbiohazard: I've seen people in my Facebook feed expressing surprise and anger about this, and I just don't get it.

According to the article D&B sued and I guess won against the Mall's earlier attempt to remove them so they could remodel. I guess they had a lawyer go over the contract with a fine tooth comb and realized they could kick them out because of the D&B in Arundel Mills.   Honestly I'm surprised they were so unwilling to move, businesses are strange sometimes.



I don't see anything in TFA about a remodel. I do know that the folks who own White Flint have been talking about redeveloping it for many years. I don't think the D&B in Arundel Mills would even have come up if D&B hadn't tried to foolishly block the redevelopment plan. Once they did the lawyers for Lerner surely went looking for anything they could use as ammo, and that was something they probably dug up.

The thing is, Lerner was under no obligation to renew their lease. That's the thing about leasing a place vs. buying it... You can get non-renewed if you lease and need to move. Dave and Busters was grasping at straws the whole time. And seriously, the whole mall is dead. It's a mall's corpse now, slowly falling apart. Dave and Busters insisting on staying open upstairs makes no sense from almost any angle you approach it from.
 
2014-07-25 08:07:04 PM  

CBob: All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.


Meh. It's not like 80s style shopping malls are historical landmarks. They have to change it up or otherwise they'll look like one of my local malls. He's a shot of it taken during actual business hours.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-25 08:14:08 PM  

Mad_Radhu: CBob: All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.

Meh. It's not like 80s style shopping malls are historical landmarks. They have to change it up or otherwise they'll look like one of my local malls. He's a shot of it taken during actual business hours.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x478]


Looks like Dawn of the Dead.
 
2014-07-25 08:24:39 PM  

Mad_Radhu: CBob: All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.

Meh. It's not like 80s style shopping malls are historical landmarks. They have to change it up or otherwise they'll look like one of my local malls. He's a shot of it taken during actual business hours.


The last store in our local dead mall was a card store with its public entrance through the back emergency door for the last month. Beforehand, the rest of the mall was corded off from the store down the darkened halls, with misspelled signs prohibiting pictures and trespassing, signed by "The Public Safety Commission". They also had ominous signs out saying there were cameras filming and ready to be handed to the police for prosecution of violators.

In truth, there was one rent-a-cop and the lights were turned off in the halls.
 
2014-07-25 08:24:41 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Looks like Dawn of the Dead.


Just wait until you see the lunch crowd shamble out of the Old Country Buffet.
 
2014-07-25 08:30:17 PM  

Mad_Radhu: RedPhoenix122: Looks like Dawn of the Dead.

Just wait until you see the lunch crowd shamble out of the Old Country Buffet.


I didn't know zombies could operate a Hoverround.
 
2014-07-25 08:46:31 PM  

mongbiohazard: White Flint mall had been an outdated waste of space for years now.


Hell even the post office moved out a long time ago. And that was the only reason I ever went to White Flint Mall.

/way back when, White Flint was the "good mall."
// Way Way Way back when.
 
2014-07-25 08:48:17 PM  
first world problems indeed
 
2014-07-25 08:52:21 PM  
Talk about the cutting off your nose to spite your face.
 
2014-07-26 06:05:10 AM  
Is Hank Deitl's still down the street?
 
GBB
2014-07-26 06:24:01 AM  

Mad_Radhu: CBob: All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.

Meh. It's not like 80s style shopping malls are historical landmarks. They have to change it up or otherwise they'll look like one of my local malls. He's a shot of it taken during actual business hours.


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That mall is begging for a Blue Brothers chase scene.
I can't look at this pic without "Turn You Loose" playing in my head.
 
2014-07-26 07:52:22 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Mad_Radhu: CBob: All part of the massive economic recovery that the US is having. One of the 'local' malls here tossed out a dozen+ smaller paying tenants and tore itself down into a strip mall. The township gave them their blessing & a re-evaluation. It'll prob give every homeowner a nice tax increase as a bonus.

Meh. It's not like 80s style shopping malls are historical landmarks. They have to change it up or otherwise they'll look like one of my local malls. He's a shot of it taken during actual business hours.

The last store in our local dead mall was a card store with its public entrance through the back emergency door for the last month. Beforehand, the rest of the mall was corded off from the store down the darkened halls, with misspelled signs prohibiting pictures and trespassing, signed by "The Public Safety Commission". They also had ominous signs out saying there were cameras filming and ready to be handed to the police for prosecution of violators.

In truth, there was one rent-a-cop and the lights were turned off in the halls.


...and murderous robots roamed the halls.
 
2014-07-26 10:45:47 AM  
The larger problem is that the indoor mall concept is dying in the US. Foot traffic is down because why schlep to the mall when Amazon is a click away? The only places that seem to be doing well are high-end stores. There have been no malls built since 2006 and they are closing at an accelerating rate.I think I read somewhere that 50% of all malls in the US will close within the next 10 years. But [citation needed] for that.
 
2014-07-26 11:32:32 AM  

Tax Boy: mongbiohazard: White Flint mall had been an outdated waste of space for years now.

Hell even the post office moved out a long time ago. And that was the only reason I ever went to White Flint Mall.

/way back when, White Flint was the "good mall."
// Way Way Way back when.


yes it was. was probably my fave as a kid. just for the cool elevators. first ones i had seen like that in the 70's.
 
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