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(Think Progress)   The GOP has a cunning plan to win back women voters: we're blocking contraception to protect you from brittle bones. Why is everyone laughing?   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 48
    More: Fail, war on women, GOP, bone disease, Kellyanne Conway, reproductive healths, breast exams, pro-life, Supreme Court  
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2014-07-24 11:54:58 PM  
She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."


Well..at least she has one good idea.
 
2014-07-25 12:01:12 AM  
That's right, Ladies! Some parties may think you're stupid, but we here at your smiling, friendly, helpful GOP are different!

/We don't just think you're stupid, WE'RE COUNTING ON IT!
 
2014-07-25 12:01:26 AM  
FTFA: "Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care," Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who helps anti-abortion groups conduct research on women's issues, told the New York Times. Conway is advising GOP candidates to challenge Democrats who use the term "women's health" to refer to reproductive rights, pivoting the conversation back to brittle bones and breast exams.

That tactic might have some legitimacy if the Democrats opposed any of those things - but they don't.  So what happens when the Republicans turn the conversation to those things?  The Democrat can just say "Great, a point we agree on, I support those women's health concerns as well, which is why I voted for the ACA, so that more women can have access to full service health care.  It seems that my opponent is talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says that these women's health issues are important, but on the other he's voted over 50 times to deprive millions of women from having access to the medical care to help prevent them"
 
2014-07-25 12:06:12 AM  
"Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care,"

That's right women!  When are you lazy broads going to realize that something like pregnancy won't become a women's health issue until after we've cured cancer and figured out how to keep people from getting old - any maybe not even then?  It's just like how insurance won't cover viagra and medicare won't cover penis pumps until because we've yet to eradicate prostate cancer.
 
2014-07-25 02:36:20 AM  
They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.
 
2014-07-25 08:11:39 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA: "Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care," Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who helps anti-abortion groups conduct research on women's issues, told the New York Times. Conway is advising GOP candidates to challenge Democrats who use the term "women's health" to refer to reproductive rights, pivoting the conversation back to brittle bones and breast exams.

That tactic might have some legitimacy if the Democrats opposed any of those things - but they don't.  So what happens when the Republicans turn the conversation to those things?  The Democrat can just say "Great, a point we agree on, I support those women's health concerns as well, which is why I voted for the ACA, so that more women can have access to full service health care.  It seems that my opponent is talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says that these women's health issues are important, but on the other he's voted over 50 times to deprive millions of women from having access to the medical care to help prevent them"


This. The ACA has done more to help women's health than anything the GOP has done.
 
2014-07-25 09:34:02 AM  
At this point, the GOP plan to get women voters is marginally less stupid than a PSA campaign with Mr. T telling them to drink their milk.
 
2014-07-25 10:11:45 AM  
Kellyanne Conway

If the con fits.
 
2014-07-25 10:13:38 AM  

grumpfuff: She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."

Well..at least she has one good idea.


Does her saying that technically still count as a rape mention?
 
2014-07-25 10:16:00 AM  
The FDA evaluates the efficacy and risk of drugs, trained and licensed doctors help individual patients choose the right drug.  Out of the whole pharmacopeia available the GOP has decided that FDA, doctors and women themselves have got this one wrong and need the GOP to rescue them.  lets be honest Republicans aren't fighting Roe they're fighting Griswold.  In the conservative mind women should beforce to have babies if they tempt men.
 
2014-07-25 10:17:30 AM  

grumpfuff: She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."


Well..at least she has one good idea.


Yeah, but now they'll just talk about rape without using the word.
 
2014-07-25 10:18:26 AM  

clkeagle: grumpfuff: She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."

Well..at least she has one good idea.

Does her saying that technically still count as a rape mention?


all i was saying is this rape is good enough for jehova
 
2014-07-25 10:19:03 AM  
So now Republicans want to give strong, thick bones to women?
 
2014-07-25 10:25:21 AM  

usernameguy: grumpfuff: She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."


Well..at least she has one good idea.

Yeah, but now they'll just talk about rape without using the word.


"Surprise sex" making a comeback?
 
2014-07-25 10:26:14 AM  

Bloody William: At this point, the GOP plan to get women voters is marginally less stupid than a PSA campaign with Mr. T telling them to drink their milk.


Less? It was Mister. T telling you to drink milk. Of course I drunk milk after that.
/Mister T once brought a kid out of a coma.
//Not even joking about that.
 
2014-07-25 10:26:31 AM  

Karac: "Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care,"

That's right women!  When are you lazy broads going to realize that something like pregnancy won't become a women's health issue until after we've cured cancer and figured out how to keep people from getting old - any maybe not even then?  It's just like how insurance won't cover viagra and medicare won't cover penis pumps until because we've yet to eradicate prostate cancer.


What are "3 conditions primarily affecting older people", Alex?

// trying to peel off older (whiter) women from the Dems' base
// just as stupid as trying to peel off older whites in 2010 by promising to "reform" SS/Medicare
 
2014-07-25 10:27:22 AM  

Notabunny: So now Republicans want to give strong, thick bones to women?


Not just women, but yeah, that was my first thought.
 
2014-07-25 10:27:29 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA: "Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care," Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who helps anti-abortion groups conduct research on women's issues, told the New York Times. Conway is advising GOP candidates to challenge Democrats who use the term "women's health" to refer to reproductive rights, pivoting the conversation back to brittle bones and breast exams.

That tactic might have some legitimacy if the Democrats opposed any of those things - but they don't.  So what happens when the Republicans turn the conversation to those things?  The Democrat can just say "Great, a point we agree on, I support those women's health concerns as well, which is why I voted for the ACA, so that more women can have access to full service health care.  It seems that my opponent is talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says that these women's health issues are important, but on the other he's voted over 50 times to deprive millions of women from having access to the medical care to help prevent them"


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It's like they never think their cunning plans all the way through or something.

Yes, GOP. Do that.

Get a pollster who specializes in working with anti-abortion groups to make the "Democrats are the ones waging a war on women" argument.
 
2014-07-25 10:29:16 AM  

thisdaydreamer: They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.


Women of child-bearing age are more likely to be sluts, so it fits the narrative.
 
2014-07-25 10:30:26 AM  
Wow....

Yeah, good plan, GOP. That'll really turn things around for you with that demographic.
 
2014-07-25 10:30:27 AM  
Sorry, I have to nitpick a bit here:  Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?  I don't mean mainstream across the country, but mainstream within the GOP.  When you refer to things like the idea in TFA as "right wing," you implicitly endorse the lie that it's just a teensy-weensy, itty-bitty portion of the GOP that supports these things, when in reality it has the support of virtually every Republican lawmaker.

The headline should actually be something like, "GOP pursues traditional platform of banning contraception."
 
2014-07-25 10:32:15 AM  

The Name: Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?


because "right wing" refers to "right of center". you're confusing "right wing" with "right fringe"
 
2014-07-25 10:35:20 AM  

sprawl15: The Name: Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?

because "right wing" refers to "right of center". you're confusing "right wing" with "right fringe"


Perhaps.  But I've heard it used in the way I've described, as well, such as, "John McCain is being attacked by the right wing" or "the right wing forced Republicans to nearly default on the debt."
 
2014-07-25 10:35:58 AM  

sprawl15: The Name: Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?

because "right wing" refers to "right of center". you're confusing "right wing" with "right fringe"


Explain the difference, please.
 
2014-07-25 10:36:20 AM  

The Name: Sorry, I have to nitpick a bit here:  Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?  I don't mean mainstream across the country, but mainstream within the GOP.  When you refer to things like the idea in TFA as "right wing," you implicitly endorse the lie that it's just a teensy-weensy, itty-bitty portion of the GOP that supports these things, when in reality it has the support of virtually every Republican lawmaker.

The headline should actually be something like, "GOP pursues traditional platform of banning contraception."


I pretty much include the entire GOP when I say 'right wing'.  There may be some sane centrists left, but they've been doing their best to purge them out, so any of the centrists still the party seem to be keeping their yaps shut for the moment.
 
2014-07-25 10:37:01 AM  
Taking medical advice from a medical doctor instead of your nearest Tea Party congressman makes you a commie.
 
2014-07-25 10:37:12 AM  
Since everybody knows that Abortions cause Breast Cancer, I don't know why the GOP doesn't just start slut-shaming at chemo centers, cutting funding for "breast cancer research" (since we know what actually caused it you whores) and excommunicating members who have breast cancer.

It's science Dumbocrats!
 
2014-07-25 10:42:53 AM  
The funny thing is, I really was laughing by the time I got to the end of the headline.

Oh, GOP, don't ever change.
 
2014-07-25 10:44:05 AM  

markfara: sprawl15: The Name: Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?

because "right wing" refers to "right of center". you're confusing "right wing" with "right fringe"

Explain the difference, please.


right wing is anything to the right. right fringe is anything far to the right.

kind of self explanatory

The Name: But I've heard it used in the way I've described, as well, such as, "John McCain is being attacked by the right wing" or "the right wing forced Republicans to nearly default on the debt."


people will say 'right wing extremists' (or 'wingnuts'), but anyone saying 'the right wing' and referring solely to extreme elements is using the phrase wrong. or just assuming everyone in politics who self identifies as a right winger is insane, which isn't too hyperbolic an assumption nowadays
 
2014-07-25 10:47:13 AM  
Preventing brittle bones also explains why Viagra is covered and both control is not.
 
2014-07-25 10:47:15 AM  

sprawl15: markfara: sprawl15: The Name: Why are completely mainstream ideas and people within the GOP referred to as "right wing"?

because "right wing" refers to "right of center". you're confusing "right wing" with "right fringe"

Explain the difference, please.

right wing is anything to the right. right fringe is anything far to the right.

kind of self explanatory

The Name: But I've heard it used in the way I've described, as well, such as, "John McCain is being attacked by the right wing" or "the right wing forced Republicans to nearly default on the debt."

people will say 'right wing extremists' (or 'wingnuts'), but anyone saying 'the right wing' and referring solely to extreme elements is using the phrase wrong. or just assuming everyone in politics who self identifies as a right winger is insane, which isn't too hyperbolic an assumption nowadays


My point exactly.
 
2014-07-25 10:47:22 AM  
i'm no doctor (though I do still have that medical coat in my closet from that time I dated a girl who was really into me wearing medical gloves with it) but doesn't a fetus suck a bunch of calcium right out of a woman's bones. So wouldn't birth control actually help women to prevent bone loss?
 
2014-07-25 10:49:51 AM  
That's right, ladies. Let us mansplain (through our front-woman) exactly what your health issues are. Keep in mind that anything not on our list is not a health issue, and you can stop worrying your pretty, little head. It gives you wrinkles, and that makes it hard to get a husband.
 
2014-07-25 10:53:09 AM  

kbronsito: i'm no doctor (though I do still have that medical coat in my closet from that time I dated a girl who was really into me wearing medical gloves with it) but doesn't a fetus suck a bunch of calcium right out of a woman's bones. So wouldn't birth control actually help women to prevent bone loss?


I'm sorry, the fetus is a Gift from God and automatically takes precedence over the health concerns of a fully cognizant adult woman, who is merely a chalice for the seed of her husband.
 
2014-07-25 11:00:03 AM  

thisdaydreamer: They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.


Don't give then any f$cking ideas.
 
2014-07-25 11:30:00 AM  
Over the years I've dated a girl on pretty much any birth control available and the only one I remember that caused bone density loss was Depro (the shot that lasted like 3 months) she loved it except for that of course.  I could be wrong but I don't remember any of the others, ring, patch, pill, the other pill, diaphragm, having similar effects.  I never (knowingly) went out with someone with an IUD.  Is bone loss a factor for the others?  I always though osteoporosis was more related to having had children/hitting menopause and not having enough calcium in diet.  Or something like that, no one I've known has had it so I don't know much.
 
2014-07-25 11:39:21 AM  

thisdaydreamer: They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.


Cancer prevention. And they're on record about it, too.
 
2014-07-25 11:55:16 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Cancer prevention. And they're on record about it, too.


Oh, yeah. "Slut" cancer. Forgot about that.
 
2014-07-25 12:03:35 PM  

GoldSpider: thisdaydreamer: They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.

Women of child-bearing age are more likely to be sluts, so it fits the narrative.


You know how I can tell you've never worked at or with a nursing home?
 
2014-07-25 12:08:56 PM  

glmorrs1: GoldSpider: thisdaydreamer: They don't think we fought for Obamacare for this stuff? How adorable.

Nice to know they only look at me as a walking womb until I get either cancer or osteoporosis. Or do they realize that chemo ends fertility?

Oops. Now they're going to try to ban cancer treatment in women of childbearing age.

Women of child-bearing age are more likely to be sluts, so it fits the narrative.

You know how I can tell you've never worked at or with a nursing home?


Touché.
 
2014-07-25 12:12:57 PM  

Dr Dreidel: What are "3 conditions primarily affecting older people", Alex?


You know what's worse for a woman's bones than birth control, Alex? Pregnancy. It's when women's teeth start rotting away, because that little succubus leeches all the calcium out of her body to make its own bones. Pregnant women are told to go see their doctor after their baby is born, because their teeth and gums have probably deteriorated during the pregnancy.
 
2014-07-25 12:50:13 PM  

ProdigalSigh: Over the years I've dated a girl on pretty much any birth control available and the only one I remember that caused bone density loss was Depro (the shot that lasted like 3 months) she loved it except for that of course.  I could be wrong but I don't remember any of the others, ring, patch, pill, the other pill, diaphragm, having similar effects.  I never (knowingly) went out with someone with an IUD.  Is bone loss a factor for the others?  I always though osteoporosis was more related to having had children/hitting menopause and not having enough calcium in diet.  Or something like that, no one I've known has had it so I don't know much.


Read that as "derpo" which is a drug many on Fark use I think.
 
2014-07-25 01:12:49 PM  

cryinoutloud: Dr Dreidel: What are "3 conditions primarily affecting older people", Alex?

You know what's worse for a woman's bones than birth control, Alex? Pregnancy. It's when women's teeth start rotting away, because that little succubus leeches all the calcium out of her body to make its own bones. Pregnant women are told to go see their doctor after their baby is born, because their teeth and gums have probably deteriorated during the pregnancy.


1. There's a reason I said "primarily".
2. "Seniors living alone with no access to care" generally does not affect younger people at all, let alone women of child-bearing age.

My point was that this seems like a "we need more old people voting for us" move by the GOP disguised as "we're the true supporters of women's health" crapola.

// we all know it's crapola, the question is "what flavor?"
 
2014-07-25 03:49:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: FTFA: "Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care," Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who helps anti-abortion groups conduct research on women's issues, told the New York Times. Conway is advising GOP candidates to challenge Democrats who use the term "women's health" to refer to reproductive rights, pivoting the conversation back to brittle bones and breast exams.

That tactic might have some legitimacy if the Democrats opposed any of those things - but they don't.  So what happens when the Republicans turn the conversation to those things?  The Democrat can just say "Great, a point we agree on, I support those women's health concerns as well, which is why I voted for the ACA, so that more women can have access to full service health care.  It seems that my opponent is talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one hand he says that these women's health issues are important, but on the other he's voted over 50 times to deprive millions of women from having access to the medical care to help prevent them"


BING!

i think they haven't thought their plan all the way through
 
2014-07-25 03:50:52 PM  
Ain't it amazing?  Every move the Republicans make will further alienate potential voters.  The fact these nincompoops win any elections ever shows you the power of money, plain and simple.  They sure don't have "right" on their sides.
 
2014-07-25 04:54:39 PM  
FTA:  "Last week, Republican Scott Brown, who is running for office in New Hampshire, reportedly took shelter in the bathroom to avoid answering a reporter's questions about Hobby Lobby..."

Apparently the GOP doesn't need women's votes because they've already got pussies...
 
2014-07-25 05:28:20 PM  

PunGent: FTA:  "Last week, Republican Scott Brown, who is running for office in New Hampshire, reportedly took shelter in the bathroom to avoid answering a reporter's questions about Hobby Lobby..."

Apparently the GOP doesn't need women's votes because they've already got pussies...


The author misread Brown's actions.  He wasn't trying to avoid the reporter, he just got a massive hard-on from thinking about how his party successfully stuck it to the sluts, and when Republican men get horny their natural instinct is to run to the nearest men's room stall.
 
2014-07-25 10:58:40 PM  

grumpfuff: She also wants Republicans to avoid ever mentioning the word "rape."


Well..at least she has one good idea.


Too bad it has a snowball's chance to ever be followed...
 
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