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2014-07-24 09:18:36 AM  
 
2014-07-24 10:52:57 AM  
None of this is surprising.  The rebels do not represent a functioning government.  For contrast,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TgQukLNIMo this is a cell phone video of the immediate aftermath of the one in Taiwan yesterday.  I'd estimate there are no less than 100 emergency responders there.  The injured were taken to hospitals quickly, the dead were properly transporter to the morgue, and I have no doubt a full accident investigation is underway.  That's what functioning governments do.  The rebels are not equipped to handle this, it would be like a British Airways jet crashed in the woods here and our local volunteer fire department was the ONLY entity left to deal with it.
 
2014-07-24 12:40:54 PM  

nekom: crashed in the woods here and our local volunteer fire department was the ONLY entity left to deal with it.


Your local volunteers would be better equipped to deal with it than a group of people who had a vested interest in purposely obscuring forensic information.

Of course, everyone knows that these "rebels" are really CIA body double plants designed to make the Russian Government byproxy look bad.
 
2014-07-24 12:41:37 PM  
The Russian penchant for sex with corpses didn't just start with Putin, but it sure got stronger.
 
2014-07-24 12:42:28 PM  
In the 24 hours before, I had traveled from Moscow to the sight of the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.


Journalism: serious business.
 
2014-07-24 12:44:07 PM  
Waving a Dutch passport didn't help much. "I don't care where you're from. You'd be from Mars, I still check your documents and search your car," a Ukrainian army-irregular told me. He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport. Over 190 of my co-patriots died in that crash, you might just have the decency to wave me through," I said. He looked back at me. "I don't give a fark,"

Are we supposed to be outraged by this. Yeah, the tone was harsher than it needs to be (Though that's pretty standard for that part of the world), but they are in the middle of a warzone, I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.
 
2014-07-24 12:45:18 PM  
Just wondering if any people "fell" to their death, weren't killed instantly when the missile hit but tossed out of the plane.
/ got to get off Chantex
 
2014-07-24 12:45:30 PM  

BigNumber12: In the 24 hours before, I had traveled from Moscow to the sight of the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.


Journalism: serious business.


I'm willing to give non-native speakers a little more leeway, that's why New Republic has editors.
 
2014-07-24 12:46:20 PM  
hardinparamedic:
Your local volunteers would be better equipped to deal with it than a group of people who had a vested interest in purposely obscuring forensic information.

Of course, everyone knows that these "rebels" are really CIA body double plants designed to make the Russian Government byproxy look bad.


Well, that's a good point but even if this were an accident, the rebels don't have the agencies in place to deal with this any more than my local fire department would.  They could put out the fire, eventually, but beyond that they wouldn't be able to repatriate remains to a dozen different nations and couldn't even begin to conduct an investigation.  If a plane crashes here, the NTSB and if foul play is suspected the FBI begin arriving before the wreckage even cools, and most developed nations have similar agencies ready at a moment's notice to head in.  The rebels have guns, which aren't helpful in these situations.
 
2014-07-24 12:47:15 PM  

BigNumber12: In the 24 hours before, I had traveled from Moscow to the sight of the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.


Journalism: serious business.


I'm cutting him some "non-native-English-speaker" slack. I was wondering what language everyone quoted in the piece was actually speaking. I doubt there are many Dutch-o-phones in the Ukrainian rebel forces.
 
2014-07-24 12:49:51 PM  

JohnHall: I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.


Holding a grenade for apparent use as a close-in weapon pretty much speaks to his soldierly competence.
 
2014-07-24 12:50:58 PM  

JohnHall: Waving a Dutch passport didn't help much. "I don't care where you're from. You'd be from Mars, I still check your documents and search your car," a Ukrainian army-irregular told me. He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport. Over 190 of my co-patriots died in that crash, you might just have the decency to wave me through," I said. He looked back at me. "I don't give a fark,"

Are we supposed to be outraged by this. Yeah, the tone was harsher than it needs to be (Though that's pretty standard for that part of the world), but they are in the middle of a warzone, I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.


Was in the middle of posting basically this.

Why do Europeans and Americans feel like their passports are magic documents that will force anyone on earth to suddenly pull out all the stops and offer them every courtesy? At least in the U.S., the assumption is based on our significant international clout. But the Netherlands? Nobody cares about your country, and you're sure looking in the wrong place for "sympathy" now that this has happened. I guess this sort of inflated self-importance is a remnant of colonial times.


Additionally,

He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport.

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-24 12:52:24 PM  

jjorsett: JohnHall: I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.

Holding a grenade for apparent use as a close-in weapon pretty much speaks to his soldierly competence.


I figured it was to toss into the car if things got shooty.
 
2014-07-24 12:53:28 PM  

cig-mkr: Just wondering if any people "fell" to their death, weren't killed instantly when the missile hit but tossed out of the plane.
/ got to get off Chantex


I really hope not. I've read a few stories about bodies crashing through people's ceilings and how horrific it was. For my mental benefit, everyone died almost instantly and they felt no pain or terror.
 
2014-07-24 12:53:31 PM  

jjorsett: BigNumber12: In the 24 hours before, I had traveled from Moscow to the sight of the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.


Journalism: serious business.

I'm cutting him some "non-native-English-speaker" slack. I was wondering what language everyone quoted in the piece was actually speaking. I doubt there are many Dutch-o-phones in the Ukrainian rebel forces.


He is a foreign correspondent based in Russia, he speaks Russian
 
2014-07-24 12:58:27 PM  
The Gods must be crazy.
 
2014-07-24 01:00:14 PM  
The plane didn't fall and hit the ground. The Earth came up and hit the plane.
 
2014-07-24 01:00:46 PM  

nekom: hardinparamedic:
Your local volunteers would be better equipped to deal with it than a group of people who had a vested interest in purposely obscuring forensic information.

Of course, everyone knows that these "rebels" are really CIA body double plants designed to make the Russian Government byproxy look bad.

Well, that's a good point but even if this were an accident, the rebels don't have the agencies in place to deal with this any more than my local fire department would.  They could put out the fire, eventually, but beyond that they wouldn't be able to repatriate remains to a dozen different nations and couldn't even begin to conduct an investigation.  If a plane crashes here, the NTSB and if foul play is suspected the FBI begin arriving before the wreckage even cools, and most developed nations have similar agencies ready at a moment's notice to head in.  The rebels have guns, which aren't helpful in these situations.


You have very odd ideas about how the fire service works in incidents of national significance, such as a plane crash with such large loss of life. Your local fire service is tasked with initial emergency response and protection of life and property. They have no duty to investigate, and are not tasked with any recovery operations. Their only operational priority is saving those victims which are salvageable, preventing the expansion of the incident, and securing the scene until arrival of the NTSB, FAA Investigators, and State and Federal Police.

I guess what I'm saying is that it's not really a good analogy to make.

In this case, the rebels have a vested interest in creating as much confusion and uncertainty as possible, while looting, contaminating, and obscuring the wreckage.

I'm honestly surprised that they didn't thermite the black boxes.
 
2014-07-24 01:06:55 PM  
Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.
 
2014-07-24 01:08:40 PM  
They died burning and screaming as the plane fell out of the sky. Almost certainly it felt like they were all in slow motion with the flames devouring their flesh as they hurdled toward the certain death they all had plenty of time to embrace before their inevitable death.

There I said it. Now you can stop hiding your head in the sand and pretending this isn't something horrible that was done to them by ignorant savages.

/Just like the space shuttle
//Don't cut those idiots deny any of this.
///Three is a lucky number
 
2014-07-24 01:09:30 PM  

BigNumber12: JohnHall: Waving a Dutch passport didn't help much. "I don't care where you're from. You'd be from Mars, I still check your documents and search your car," a Ukrainian army-irregular told me. He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport. Over 190 of my co-patriots died in that crash, you might just have the decency to wave me through," I said. He looked back at me. "I don't give a fark,"

Are we supposed to be outraged by this. Yeah, the tone was harsher than it needs to be (Though that's pretty standard for that part of the world), but they are in the middle of a warzone, I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.

Was in the middle of posting basically this.

Why do Europeans and Americans feel like their passports are magic documents that will force anyone on earth to suddenly pull out all the stops and offer them every courtesy? At least in the U.S., the assumption is based on our significant international clout. But the Netherlands? Nobody cares about your country, and you're sure looking in the wrong place for "sympathy" now that this has happened. I guess this sort of inflated self-importance is a remnant of colonial times.


Additionally,

He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport.

[img.fark.net image 322x452]


And don't forget the journalist spelled a word incorrectly when relating his experience in a war zone.  Pffft.
 
2014-07-24 01:12:18 PM  
Fank:
Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

The human story often gets lost in the politics, but it is definitely worth remembering.  These people were doing nothing wrong.  Some of them were heading for a beach vacation, maybe some of them were heading home or visiting relatives in Malaysia.  Some were planning to go on to Australia or other parts of the world.  And of course some of them were putting in another day at the office, the pilots and cabin staff.  Every one of them had a story, and it's absolutely heartbreaking.

If I lived near a Dutch embassy, I would have brought flowers.  Instead, all I can say is that I weep with you, this would be a terrible catastrophe even if it were an accident, but the fact that someone caused it, accidentally or not, is far more enraging.  This didn't have to happen.
 
2014-07-24 01:13:46 PM  

BigNumber12: ut the Netherlands? Nobody cares about your country, and you're sure looking in the wrong place for "sympathy" now that this has happened. I guess this sort of inflated self-importance is a remnant of colonial times.


Perhaps he very simply thought his Dutch passport would possibly generate some empathy as over one hundred of his innocent fellow countrymen were just slaughtered for no reason.

Or maybe young Dutch reporters really do want to relive colonial times (wtf?).

/you feeling oppressed, brah?
 
2014-07-24 01:18:04 PM  

jjorsett: JohnHall: I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.

Holding a grenade for apparent use as a close-in weapon pretty much speaks to his soldierly competence.


He can be soldierly once.
 
2014-07-24 01:20:01 PM  

Luven: They died burning and screaming as the plane fell out of the sky. Almost certainly it felt like they were all in slow motion with the flames devouring their flesh as they hurdled toward the certain death they all had plenty of time to embrace before their inevitable death.

There I said it. Now you can stop hiding your head in the sand and pretending this isn't something horrible that was done to them by ignorant savages.

/Just like the space shuttle
//Don't cut those idiots deny any of this.
///Three is a lucky number


Drunken savages who could care less about helping out the victims they themselves killed so blatantly. That Putin and Russia are not bending over backwards to satisfy the international community while lying lies so pathetic is symbolic of what Russia has become.
 
2014-07-24 01:20:18 PM  
Is this the one that was taken down by a DVD laser to the cockpit?
 
2014-07-24 01:25:14 PM  
Waving a Dutch passport didn't help much. "I don't care where you're from. You'd be from Mars, I still check your documents and search your car," a Ukrainian army-irregular told me. He had a grenade in his hand, the ring with the pin around his left finger as he flipped through the stamped pages of my passport.

www.weirdlyodd.com
img.myconfinedspace.com

Certian things don't work well as close combat weapons. Unless he was planning on beating him to death with it, or giving him a Man on Fire style colonoscopy.
 
2014-07-24 01:26:50 PM  

rinasaunce: Or maybe young Dutch reporters really do want to relive colonial times (wtf?).


Who said "relive?" Spend some time in old colonial capitals like Vienna and then tell me that there isn't massive nostalgia for the days when they ran empires, along with emotional remnants of those old attitudes of superiority.

rinasaunce: Perhaps he very simply thought his Dutch passport would possibly generate some empathy as over one hundred of his innocent fellow countrymen were just slaughtered for no reason.


From the Russians, after all they've said and done since the crash? Some might call that "naive."

rinasaunce: /you feeling oppressed, brah?


By the Dutch? Yeah, that's it.
 
2014-07-24 01:27:18 PM  

bearcats1983: cig-mkr: Just wondering if any people "fell" to their death, weren't killed instantly when the missile hit but tossed out of the plane.
/ got to get off Chantex

I really hope not. I've read a few stories about bodies crashing through people's ceilings and how horrific it was. For my mental benefit, everyone died almost instantly and they felt no pain or terror.


Probably a lot died of shrapnel wounds from the initial blast.  A couple of days ago, someone posted a photo of a piece of the fuselage.  It was supposed to be the window to the left of the pilot and some of the plane's body (I'm assuming that this is correct).  The piece was peppered with what looked like shrapnel entrance holes.  If the identification of this fragment is correct, appears that the missile's proximity fuse detonated the warhead to the left of the aircraft.  Based on the number of holes, the pilot and co-pilot would have been killed instantly.  I'm think that other parts of the fuselage from the left side would show the same pattern of holes.  The warheads on these suckers are pretty large, so I have to imagine that the shrapnel spray is extensive and that a large number of passengers were dead with in seconds of the initial blast.

/Just my take on what we've been shown, which isn't much.
//Examination of the bodies will tell the story, one way or the other.
 
2014-07-24 01:29:19 PM  

Fank: Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.



My condolences on your loss.


/born & raised New Yorker
 
2014-07-24 01:30:43 PM  

nekom: Fank:
Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

If I lived near a Dutch embassy, I would have brought flowers.  Instead, all I can say is that I weep with you, this would be a terrible catastrophe even if it were an accident, but the fact that someone caused it, accidentally or not, is far more enraging. This didn't have to happen.


Thanks man, but I haven't cried about this. I've been too pissed off for that; not the type of person to cry anyway. I went to the military base near my house were the bodies are kept for ID and just stood there looking at the sea of flowers. CNN was there filming a segment and it was all so surreal.
 
2014-07-24 01:32:01 PM  

rinasaunce: Perhaps he very simply thought his Dutch passport would possibly generate some empathy as over one hundred of his innocent fellow countrymen were just slaughtered for no reason.


Hah, the more I think about this... expecting "empathy" from the very people that shot it down, and have been busy looting and tampering with the crash site.

Yeah, obviously very well-grounded in reality.
 
2014-07-24 01:46:08 PM  
This is the end. After this it just can't get any worse. But it will.

Yep.
 
2014-07-24 01:57:41 PM  
I must say, the way the first coffins were received beack in the Netherlands was one of the most impressive things I have  seen in the past few years.  They will hold the same ceremony for each further flight that arrives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airl in es-crash/index.html
 
2014-07-24 02:02:59 PM  
This incident and the behavior of the "rebels" afterwards has crystallized my opinion about the "rebels" and their Russian sponsors.

It is not a good opinion. Before, I was kinda "meh." I'm not "meh" anymore.
 
2014-07-24 02:06:51 PM  

bikkurikun: I must say, the way the first coffins were received beack in the Netherlands was one of the most impressive things I have  seen in the past few years.  They will hold the same ceremony for each further flight that arrives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airl in es-crash/index.html


It is good to see the dead finally getting the respect and dignity they deserve.

Smelly Pirate Hooker: This incident and the behavior of the "rebels" afterwards has crystallized my opinion about the "rebels" and their Russian sponsors.

It is not a good opinion. Before, I was kinda "meh." I'm not "meh" anymore.


At first I thought well these people appear to want to be Russian, what's the big deal?  Now all of the sudden they seem far more sinister.
 
2014-07-24 02:25:47 PM  
People don't just fall from the sky...
content7.flixster.com
Beautiful women don't just fall out of the sky.
/obscure?
//too soon?
 
2014-07-24 02:29:44 PM  

Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.


Condolences to you and your countrymen.  But even if the Netherlands was a huge military power, you'd be a bit frustrated as well- warfare with a nuclear power is a very risky thing if you are a nuclear power and even if you are closely allied with one as you are.  There's a risk that things will escalate to a level no one wants or perhaps can survive.  But your country can lead the EU to make the Russians pay economically if it can shame the rest of the EU and the US into sanctions that really hurt.  I hope you do.
 
2014-07-24 02:34:35 PM  

stan unusual: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Condolences to you and your countrymen.  But even if the Netherlands was a huge military power, you'd be a bit frustrated as well- warfare with a nuclear power is a very risky thing if you are a nuclear power and even if you are closely allied with one as you are.  There's a risk that things will escalate to a level no one wants or perhaps can survive.  But your country can lead the EU to make the Russians pay economically if it can shame the rest of the EU and the US into sanctions that really hurt.  I hope you do.


I never mentioned nuclear weapons. And fark paying economically. I want to have all russian rebels put against a wall and shot.

Krijg de tering, rusland.
 
2014-07-24 02:51:07 PM  

jjorsett: JohnHall: I can't imagine any competent soldier "waving someone through" because of something like this, his job is to confirm you are who you say you are and that you aren't a danger to his people.

Holding a grenade for apparent use as a close-in weapon pretty much speaks to his soldierly competence.



The grenade was in case they shot him.   With the pin around his finger, if you shoot him, he'll drop the grenade (even with a head shot), but pin stays in his hand.   Ideally it'll be a zero time grenade, but either way it greatly increases the risk of someone wanting to blow the checkpoint.

So yes, it speaks to his competence, but not in a bad way.
 
2014-07-24 02:51:54 PM  
In one day, by relative scale, the Netherlands lost at least as many as the US did on 9/11 perhaps many more.
 
2014-07-24 02:55:37 PM  

Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.


Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.
 
2014-07-24 02:59:01 PM  

bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.


Made a typo, should read 'krijg de tering', that does translate to fark.
 
2014-07-24 03:01:11 PM  

Fank: bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.

Made a typo, should read 'krijg de tering', that does translate to fark.


Thought that was intentional :)
 
2014-07-24 03:05:22 PM  

bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.


Teringtyfuskankerklere-russen
 
2014-07-24 03:06:47 PM  

BitwiseShift: In one day, by relative scale, the Netherlands lost at least as many as the US did on 9/11 perhaps many more.


2977 victims vs 318,000,000 - .000009 of the population
190 victims vs 16,000,000 -  .000012 of the population

So yeah, technically true and I'm sure also true in terms of the nation's feeling of shock and loss.
 
2014-07-24 03:06:53 PM  

bikkurikun: bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.

Teringtyfuskankerklere-russen


That is AWESOME
 
2014-07-24 03:11:42 PM  

bikerdiva: bikkurikun: bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.

Teringtyfuskankerklere-russen

That is AWESOME

Yes, you could combine every possible disease, and will be a perfectly fine Dutch swearword. You can also randomly insert a piss or shiate reference, and end any combination with either lul or kut.
Personally I am quite partial to the curse words of the piss-family. Pisvinger, Piskut, Pislul etc.

 
2014-07-24 03:15:33 PM  

bikkurikun: bikerdiva: bikkurikun: bikerdiva: Fank: Being Dutch myself I can only say one thing: fark russia. fark every single last farking russian who tries to justify this. fark every single last farking russian rebel. fark every single last russian asshole who supplied them with the weapons. fark Putin. fark everyone who voted on Putin.

Oh sorry, I was only going to say one thing. Let it be this then: fark RUSSIA.

Now to avoid the fark-filter: Krijg de terig, rusland. Ah cool, google translate cant translate that.

Those were almost 200 of my countrymen who were lying there. Going on a farking vacation. Remember how you felt after 9/11? Thats what I am feeling now. But sadly I come from a weaker country. We will get them back.

Sweating with diseases? Oh hell yeah, you're Dutch. Gecondoleerd en sterkte.

Teringtyfuskankerklere-russen

That is AWESOME

Yes, you could combine every possible disease, and will be a perfectly fine Dutch swearword. You can also randomly insert a piss or shiate reference, and end any combination with either lul or kut.
Personally I am quite partial to the curse words of the piss-family. Pisvinger, Piskut, Pislul etc.


I just learned vise tietelikker (spelling is off I'm sure). That cracked me up to no end. And seriously, I love Dutch swear words. I felt like I arrived when I was called a kanker hoer while fighting traffic
 
2014-07-24 03:18:13 PM  

bikkurikun: I must say, the way the first coffins were received beack in the Netherlands was one of the most impressive things I have  seen in the past few years.  They will hold the same ceremony for each further flight that arrives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/23/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airl in es-crash/index.html


It got dusty in here all the sudden.
 
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