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(Daily Mail)   Father and son 'round the world' flight ends in tragedy as their plane goes down after leaving Pago Pago in American Samoa. The son was going for a "youngest pilot" record   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 170
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2014-07-23 07:33:45 PM
"Youngest" is not a trait one should strive for in sea captains, surgeons, or airplane pilots.

Try for "safest" or "most experienced".
 
2014-07-23 07:35:48 PM
Idiot farking parents.  Half of the job for parents is to tell their stupid kids, "Not only No, but Hell No" when they come up dumb ideas like this.  shiat like this is dangerous, and as grownups, you're supposed to know better than to let a 17 year old kid try to fly a Beechcraft Bonanza around the world.  I don't care if the father was along, it was a dumb, dumb idea.  All I have to say to the mother/widow: You managed to kill your kid and husband in a publicity stunt, hope you sleep at night.
 
2014-07-23 07:37:02 PM
I'm waiting for the conspiracy theorists to come up with a 'Bermuda Triangle' like explanation for all these planes going down recently. Mark my words, someone out there has their brains churning about aliens or magnets or CIA or turrorists or some shiat already.
 
2014-07-23 07:37:11 PM
Well, at least he got the "Youngest Pilot to Die in a Plane Crash" record.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-23 07:37:36 PM
When US laws apply there is a minimum age of 16 or 17 to try to set an aeronautical record.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Dubroff#Child_Pilot_Safety_Act
 
2014-07-23 07:50:10 PM

doglover: "Youngest" is not a trait one should strive for in sea captains, surgeons, or airplane pilots.

Try for "safest" or "most experienced".


...words to live by.
 
2014-07-23 07:54:18 PM
Must have been the coconut

/maybe the caramel
 
2014-07-23 08:14:47 PM

devildog123: Idiot farking parents


I had 20+ hours in a Cessna before I was 16.  I was wayyyyy safer in the air than I was in a car.

But I would not have flown with me.
 
2014-07-23 08:15:44 PM

syrynxx: Well, at least he got the "Youngest Pilot to Die in a Plane Crash" record.


Sadly, the record for that is 16.
 
2014-07-23 08:33:34 PM
The pair were leaving the American Samoa island for Hawaii which was due to be their next stop.   Haris' tweets suggest the pair were re-routed as they discovered there was no fuel in their next scheduled stop of Kiritimati, also known as Christmas Island

So let me get this straight.  They were going to fly 2,500 miles at 200 MPH (give or take) across the open Pacific, in a single engine airplane that has a listed ferry range of 1,000 miles.  That means they were carrying AT LEAST 1.5 times the normal max fuel as cargo.

That sounds ambitious to me.  Add in a runway temperature of 100 F, and that's not good.
 
2014-07-23 09:14:11 PM
Did anyone else's antivirus program go off on this link?
 
2014-07-23 09:15:09 PM
Dammit, I meant page, not link.
 
2014-07-23 09:50:43 PM

Marcus Aurelius: devildog123: Idiot farking parents

I had 20+ hours in a Cessna before I was 16.  I was wayyyyy safer in the air than I was in a car.

But I would not have flown with me.


Same, but I don't think I'd want to ride in a car driven by 16 year old me either.

As somebody who gets nervous the second the second I'm beyond gliding distance in a single engine piston, this trip seems ridiculously idiotic.
 
2014-07-23 10:03:19 PM

Marcus Aurelius: devildog123: Idiot farking parents

I had 20+ hours in a Cessna before I was 16.  I was wayyyyy safer in the air than I was in a car.

But I would not have flown with me.


Huh. I always like it when I learn some new interesting fact about someone I've seen here for many years. I did not know you were a pilot.
 
2014-07-23 10:38:35 PM
At least he's earned the "Youngest pilot to ever kill his father in a misguided attempt to circumnavigate the globe" trophy, though. Right? RIGHT!?
 
2014-07-23 10:40:05 PM
The kid should've known that as an elephant, Babar put them dangerously over the weight limit.
 
2014-07-23 10:41:20 PM

doglover: "most experienced"


Eh, there are way too many old pilots, in my opinion. But, yes, experience is a damn good thing, and sometimes experience (even indirect) with the wrong thing is good for a pilot.

Marcus Aurelius: The pair were leaving the American Samoa island for Hawaii which was due to be their next stop.   Haris' tweets suggest the pair were re-routed as they discovered there was no fuel in their next scheduled stop of Kiritimati, also known as Christmas Island

So let me get this straight.  They were going to fly 2,500 miles at 200 MPH (give or take) across the open Pacific, in a single engine airplane that has a listed ferry range of 1,000 miles.  That means they were carrying AT LEAST 1.5 times the normal max fuel as cargo.

That sounds ambitious to me.  Add in a runway temperature of 100 F, and that's not good.


I know little about models of plane and what their various capabilities may be, but that sounds frightening. What would the typical max cargo for a non-fluid load be in that kind of aircraft?
 
2014-07-23 10:42:15 PM
I started building hours in a Cessna when I was 8/9.

/*waves tail rudder*
 
2014-07-23 10:42:20 PM
i.imgur.com

Witness account of the accident.
 
2014-07-23 10:42:21 PM
He died doing what he loved.
 
2014-07-23 10:44:09 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The pair were leaving the American Samoa island for Hawaii which was due to be their next stop.   Haris' tweets suggest the pair were re-routed as they discovered there was no fuel in their next scheduled stop of Kiritimati, also known as Christmas Island

So let me get this straight.  They were going to fly 2,500 miles at 200 MPH (give or take) across the open Pacific, in a single engine airplane that has a listed ferry range of 1,000 miles.  That means they were carrying AT LEAST 1.5 times the normal max fuel as cargo.

That sounds ambitious to me.  Add in a runway temperature of 100 F, and that's not good.


My father besides being an engineer and an army ranger, also was a flight instructor.  When I was learning to fly he said "Son, the single engine is great to learn, but when you get your license, and decide to take a real trip, take a twin".

He has a story about flying a single engine to the bahamas and the fuel cap vibrating off and landing on vapors.  And the next week he mortgaged his house to buy a Beechcraft Travel Aire.
 
2014-07-23 10:46:10 PM

squidloe: He died doing what he loved.


Screaming in abject terror as he crashed into the ocean?
 
2014-07-23 10:46:45 PM
I was at Plainfield High School to watch my nephew graduate this past June.  I wonder if he knew Haris.  Anyway, they were only a couple of hops from home.  What is it about the South Pacific and globe-circling pilots going down?  Amelia Earhart lost it in the South Pacific, too.
 
2014-07-23 10:46:50 PM
Jeebus, those pro-Russian rebels are shooting down everyone's planes.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:16 PM
I put my kid through flight school before he tried for a driver's license. Much better training. However, three years later he does not care to get his driver's license. Neither do most of his friends. Sorta freaks me because I thought it gave me freedom from my parents and interesting dates.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:29 PM
Amelia Earheart was blind, deaf, and running from the Nazis. Pikers.

/Condolences to their family.
 
2014-07-23 10:49:01 PM

morg: [i.imgur.com image 250x250]

Witness account of the accident.


There's his problem right there.  Had he picked Dumbo to be his co-pilot instead of Babar, he'd still be with us.
 
2014-07-23 10:50:52 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: squidloe: He died doing what he loved.

Screaming in abject terror as he crashed into the ocean?


And killing his dad.
 
2014-07-23 10:51:22 PM

syrynxx: Well, at least he got the "Youngest Pilot to Die in a Plane Crash" record.


Um, about that.......

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/12/us/girl-7-seeking-us-flight-record -d ies-in-crash.html
 
2014-07-23 10:52:07 PM

theflatline: Marcus Aurelius: The pair were leaving the American Samoa island for Hawaii which was due to be their next stop.   Haris' tweets suggest the pair were re-routed as they discovered there was no fuel in their next scheduled stop of Kiritimati, also known as Christmas Island

So let me get this straight.  They were going to fly 2,500 miles at 200 MPH (give or take) across the open Pacific, in a single engine airplane that has a listed ferry range of 1,000 miles.  That means they were carrying AT LEAST 1.5 times the normal max fuel as cargo.

That sounds ambitious to me.  Add in a runway temperature of 100 F, and that's not good.

My father besides being an engineer and an army ranger, also was a flight instructor.  When I was learning to fly he said "Son, the single engine is great to learn, but when you get your license, and decide to take a real trip, take a twin".

He has a story about flying a single engine to the bahamas and the fuel cap vibrating off and landing on vapors.  And the next week he mortgaged his house to buy a Beechcraft Travel Aire.


Yup, single engine+any major breakdown=one really inefficient glider
 
2014-07-23 10:53:03 PM

squidloe: Jaden Smith First of His Name: squidloe: He died doing what he loved.

Screaming in abject terror as he crashed into the ocean?

And killing his dad.


I wish I could shake your hand right now.
 
2014-07-23 10:55:47 PM

devildog123: Idiot farking parents.


I think this pretty much covers it.

/ at least the kid took one of them out
 
2014-07-23 10:59:23 PM
Trifecta complete. :(
 
2014-07-23 10:59:34 PM
Sometes I doubt myself because I tend to see the negative side of things, and I checked in here to see what you guys weighed in at.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one here who sees this as completely idiotic.

But then again, I don't even go to air shows because it seems to me they're pushing safety boundaries for attention.
 
2014-07-23 11:01:06 PM
Darwin Award double header.

Siblings?

DNRTFA
 
2014-07-23 11:01:59 PM

devildog123: Idiot farking parents.  Half of the job for parents is to tell their stupid kids, "Not only No, but Hell No" when they come up dumb ideas like this.  shiat like this is dangerous, and as grownups, you're supposed to know better than to let a 17 year old kid try to fly a Beechcraft Bonanza around the world.  I don't care if the father was along, it was a dumb, dumb idea.  All I have to say to the mother/widow: You managed to kill your kid and husband in a publicity stunt, hope you sleep at night.


Oh no! Not something  dangerous.  Best to stay in your house all the time, where nothing can hurt you, and wait to die of the beetus.
 
2014-07-23 11:03:44 PM
Suleman, huh... now why does that name sound familiar?

i50.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-23 11:04:13 PM
It sucks but we let 16 yo kids get behind the wheel on interstates and rush hour traffic everyday.

Plane probably had engine failure after take off and that was it. Dad who was an experienced pilot was there too and he couldnt save it. Kid wasnt flying solo.
 
2014-07-23 11:04:56 PM

squidloe: He died doing what he loved.


Fapping furiously?  Maybe that's why the plane crashed.
 
2014-07-23 11:05:17 PM
Sad
 
2014-07-23 11:05:26 PM

Hollie Maea: Oh no! Not something  dangerous.  Best to stay in your house all the time, where nothing can hurt you, and wait to die of the beetus.


Yeah, it's 'fly a simple aircraft with no redundancy across the pacific ocean' or what you described. Nothing at all in between.
 
2014-07-23 11:06:20 PM
What a downer.
 
2014-07-23 11:06:34 PM

Igor Jakovsky: It sucks but we let 16 yo kids get behind the wheel on interstates and rush hour traffic everyday.

Plane probably had engine failure after take off and that was it. Dad who was an experienced pilot was there too and he couldnt save it. Kid wasnt flying solo.


He was flying solo he crashed....
 
2014-07-23 11:07:42 PM
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
 
2014-07-23 11:07:44 PM

lohphat: Darwin Award double header.

Siblings?

DNRTFA


The father and son?

Probably not.
 
2014-07-23 11:07:53 PM
If it's any consolation, he still set a record.
 
2014-07-23 11:08:27 PM

Cerebral Ballsy: Sometes I doubt myself because I tend to see the negative side of things, and I checked in here to see what you guys weighed in at.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one here who sees this as completely idiotic.

But then again, I don't even go to air shows because it seems to me they're pushing safety boundaries for attention.


Funny, that's the main reason I do go to airshows.
 
2014-07-23 11:09:26 PM
If I were young and came from such a wealthy family, I would have picked someone younger and more competent as a co-pilot.
 
2014-07-23 11:09:35 PM

Hollie Maea: devildog123: Idiot farking parents.  Half of the job for parents is to tell their stupid kids, "Not only No, but Hell No" when they come up dumb ideas like this.  shiat like this is dangerous, and as grownups, you're supposed to know better than to let a 17 year old kid try to fly a Beechcraft Bonanza around the world.  I don't care if the father was along, it was a dumb, dumb idea.  All I have to say to the mother/widow: You managed to kill your kid and husband in a publicity stunt, hope you sleep at night.

Oh no! Not something  dangerous.  Best to stay in your house all the time, where nothing can hurt you, and wait to die of the beetus.


You seem to know what you're talking about.
 
2014-07-23 11:10:33 PM

Tchernobog: lohphat: Darwin Award double header.

Siblings?

DNRTFA

The father and son?

Probably not.


They were from Indiana, not West Virginia.
 
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