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(The Detroit_News)   Republican operatives make a spectacles of themselves trying to covertly infiltrate Democratic gatherings   (detroitnews.com) divider line 57
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2014-07-23 11:05:07 AM  
Non story.  Overzealous stalker.
 
2014-07-23 11:24:13 AM  
Maybe they think he will say something in private he wouldn't dare in public...
www.washingtonpost.com
 
2014-07-23 11:38:48 AM  
For some reason, when they said that they were using spyglasses, I thought they meant this:

historydrinks.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-23 12:08:21 PM  

RexTalionis: For some reason, when they said that they were using spyglasses, I thought they meant this:

[historydrinks.files.wordpress.com image 268x337]


And I was sure they'd be his glasses:

www.rawstory.com
 
2014-07-23 12:26:19 PM  

RexTalionis: For some reason, when they said that they were using spyglasses, I thought they meant this:

[historydrinks.files.wordpress.com image 268x337]


Rest assured that you're not the only one.
 
2014-07-23 12:26:35 PM  
FTFA: "From what we can tell, it looks like the Republican Party has invested in some pretty high-end technology and they have some shoddy implementation," Houston said.

Get out.  You mean these teabaggers with their super-secret undercover, ultra-patriot spy fantasies suck balls at actually doing it?  Naaahh.
 
2014-07-23 12:28:04 PM  
The difference between this and the Romney thing is it was just one of the random lower income people republicans constantly insult and attack with legislation that recorded Romney and in this case it was a couple of republican goons. Not really comparable.
 
2014-07-23 12:29:09 PM  
I remember back in 2008 I went to the local Democratic primary to vote for Obama over Hilary. This was back when the Republicans were doing Operation Whatever where they would go to the primaries and vote for Hilary to try and mess up the Democratic nomination.

The official bylaws of the Democratic Party specify Robert's Rules of Order for party meetings.

When we got there the local party secretary gave a short speech. The entire time she was giving her speech, three or four people were screaming "POINT OF ORDER POINT OF ORDER" over and over again until they were recognized. They did this constantly, raising bullshiat objections like "we didn't read the minutes of the last meeting first!", "the meeting invitation said it started at 8 but you started talking at 7:57" and shiat like that. They were overheard talking about how they were messing things up real well.

tl;dr - conservatives are assholes, and worse, enjoy being assholes
 
2014-07-23 12:29:56 PM  

Headso: The difference between this and the Romney thing is it was just one of the random lower income people republicans constantly insult and attack with legislation that recorded Romney and in this case it was a couple of republican goons. Not really comparable.


The Romney video was also opportunistic (The videographer was working there), whereas this is premeditated and with a specific purpose.
=Smidge=
 
2014-07-23 12:30:02 PM  
The bathroom stall bit was classy.

About the only way this could have been funnier is if one of the spies had kept the recording going while using a urinal in a busy restroom and he'd looked around a little too much
 
2014-07-23 12:30:16 PM  

Headso: The difference between this and the Romney thing is it was just one of the random lower income people republicans constantly insult and attack with legislation that recorded Romney and in this case it was a couple of republican goons. Not really comparable.


A couple of random lower income people who had been explicitly invited to the event in question, not plants by the Democrats.
 
2014-07-23 12:33:12 PM  
Maybe the Democrats don't say racist, stupid things at their internal meetings?  Were they expecting to catch something like, "I can't believe those coloreds haven't caught on to us yet!"
 
2014-07-23 12:34:21 PM  
a video memory disk that fell into the hands of Democrats

I was led to believe from another thread that it was a minidisc. Was it actually an SD card, or is this story as hilarious as I'd hoped?
 
2014-07-23 12:35:16 PM  

ArkPanda: Maybe the Democrats don't say racist, stupid things at their internal meetings?  Were they expecting to catch something like, "I can't believe those coloreds haven't caught on to us yet!"


No, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone really expected them to say something like "we'd better keep pushing the Global Warming lie, before that sweet grant money dries up!"
 
2014-07-23 12:35:30 PM  
www.virginmedia.com
 
2014-07-23 12:37:08 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Headso: The difference between this and the Romney thing is it was just one of the random lower income people republicans constantly insult and attack with legislation that recorded Romney and in this case it was a couple of republican goons. Not really comparable.

A couple of random lower income people who had been explicitly invited to the event in question, not plants by the Democrats.


Yep, the guy was invited because he was a bartender at it.
 
2014-07-23 12:39:49 PM  
FTA: A spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party acknowledged Wednesday the state party sent staffers Natalie Collins and Kyle Anderson into the fundraiser to videotape Schauer and his running mate, Oakland County Clerk Lisa Brown.

So they admit they broke the law.

Under Michigan law, any person who willfully uses any device to overhear or record a conversation without the consent of all parties is guilty of illegal eavesdropping, whether or not they were present for the conversation. Illegal eavesdropping can be punished as a felony carrying a jail term of up to two years and a fine of up to $2,000. Mich. Comp. Laws § 750.539c.

And since the Republican Party acknowledged they were the ones who sent them, they too are guilty.

I look forward to the attorney general prosecuting these criminals and they organization.
 
2014-07-23 12:41:36 PM  
"The disk containing the video was found on the floor of the Pipefitters Local 636 union hall in Farmington Hills after a July 8 Oakland County Democratic Party meeting, Houston said."

Must've been James Blonde.
 
2014-07-23 12:43:45 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I remember back in 2008 I went to the local Democratic primary to vote for Obama over Hilary. This was back when the Republicans were doing Operation Whatever where they would go to the primaries and vote for Hilary to try and mess up the Democratic nomination.
The official bylaws of the Democratic Party specify Robert's Rules of Order for party meetings.
When we got there the local party secretary gave a short speech. The entire time she was giving her speech, three or four people were screaming "POINT OF ORDER POINT OF ORDER" over and over again until they were recognized. They did this constantly, raising bullshiat objections like "we didn't read the minutes of the last meeting first!", "the meeting invitation said it started at 8 but you started talking at 7:57" and shiat like that. They were overheard talking about how they were messing things up real well.
tl;dr - conservatives are assholes, and worse, enjoy being assholes


Bad on the local Democratic party officials for not knowing Robert's Rules well enough.

You can only be recognized if you are a member of the body in question. Random people can't scream from the Gallery of the House "Point of Order" and disrupt the proceedings of Congress. Or rather, they can, but will promptly be arrested.
 
2014-07-23 12:45:01 PM  

Muta: So they admit they broke the law.


When I read what state this was in I was curious if they had that same wiretapping kinda law like MA does... thanks for bothering to actually look.
 
2014-07-23 12:45:31 PM  

Lord Dimwit: ArkPanda: Maybe the Democrats don't say racist, stupid things at their internal meetings?  Were they expecting to catch something like, "I can't believe those coloreds haven't caught on to us yet!"

No, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone really expected them to say something like "we'd better keep pushing the Global Warming lie, before that sweet grant money dries up!"


Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if "I can't believe those coloreds haven't caught on to us yet!" is exactly the kind of thing they were expecting to hear. That and/or satanic rituals involving the sacrifice of pretty white girls or something.

It fits the Republican rhetoric of "otherism" perfectly
 
2014-07-23 12:48:14 PM  
I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.
 
2014-07-23 12:48:27 PM  

Lord Dimwit: ArkPanda: Maybe the Democrats don't say racist, stupid things at their internal meetings?  Were they expecting to catch something like, "I can't believe those coloreds haven't caught on to us yet!"

No, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone really expected them to say something like "we'd better keep pushing the Global Warming lie, before that sweet grant money dries up!"


This guy my cousin's wife works with goes to Democrat meetings and they hand out Obama phones and coupons for gay abortions.
 
2014-07-23 12:49:51 PM  
Dems already say exactly what they believe in public. It's the Reps - poodles to corporations and fanatical religions - who have to bite their tongues in public and use dog whistle phrases with a wink. Hence, the 47%'er comment, which even though it was based on a ridiculous twisting of statistics, Romney still managed to actually believe.
 
2014-07-23 12:50:44 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-23 12:50:55 PM  
llwproductions.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-23 12:51:04 PM  

Headso: Muta: So they admit they broke the law.

When I read what state this was in I was curious if they had that same wiretapping kinda law like MA does... thanks for bothering to actually look.


I live in Michigan and it relevant to me.  I don't think I am absurd in wanting to avoid having  a criminal organization run my state.
 
2014-07-23 12:52:47 PM  

Muta: I look forward to the attorney general prosecuting these criminals and they organization.


Bwahahaha!  Good one!  "Bill Schuette prosecuting Republican crooks!"  Classic!
 
2014-07-23 12:53:13 PM  

snowshovel: I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-23 12:56:36 PM  
Pathetic...
 
2014-07-23 12:57:25 PM  
Of course you went straight to the food, Natalie, 'cause you're a frikkin' cow.
 
2014-07-23 01:08:03 PM  
crooksandliars.com
Of course, if you want to infiltrate Republican gatherings, covert isn't really the way to go.
 
2014-07-23 01:09:11 PM  
Came for the twunt hiding in the bushes, left satisfied
 
2014-07-23 01:17:42 PM  
Was it a hunting trip?

liberal-hunting-permit.jpg
 
2014-07-23 01:22:32 PM  

Lord Dimwit: tl;dr - conservatives are assholes, and worse, enjoy being assholes BUT DON'T YOU DARE ACCUSE THEM OF BEING ASSHOLES~!


FTFY.
 
2014-07-23 01:23:25 PM  

snowshovel: I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.


@M, finished #relaxingwithmartinit #cuteblonde #pussyGALORE! Say hi to Moneypenny #frustratedmilf
 
2014-07-23 01:23:46 PM  

phaseolus: The bathroom stall bit was classy.

About the only way this could have been funnier is if one of the spies had kept the recording going while using a urinal in a busy restroom and he'd looked around a little too much


This. I hope you Colbert Report writers are taking notes.
 
2014-07-23 01:25:59 PM  

Headso: The difference between this and the Romney thing is it was just one of the random lower income people republicans constantly insult and attack with legislation that recorded Romney and in this case it was a couple of republican goons. Not really comparable.


Plus, the employee was at his place of work and was not there under false pretenses.  Also, I think their is a distinction between recording a speech and a series of private conversations.
 
2014-07-23 01:26:05 PM  

Tax Boy: snowshovel: I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.


James Bond is the code name for whichever agent had the 007 position. That's why he's so many different people. Study it out.
 
2014-07-23 01:37:33 PM  

Muta: Headso: Muta: So they admit they broke the law.

When I read what state this was in I was curious if they had that same wiretapping kinda law like MA does... thanks for bothering to actually look.

I live in Michigan and it relevant to me.  I don't think I am absurd in wanting to avoid having  a criminal organization run my state.


I wasn't being sarcastic, thanks for bothering to actually look into it. The problem with the one in MA is the cops use it to punish anyone who records their shady behavior.
 
2014-07-23 01:41:09 PM  

Tax Boy: snowshovel: I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.


...

That's not his real name.
 
2014-07-23 01:50:28 PM  
paganj:

James Bond is the code name for whichever agent had the 007 position. That's why he's so many different people. Study it out.

LazarusLong42:
...

That's not his real name.


Clearly reading books is hard for you and even watching Skyfall was a challenge.
 
2014-07-23 01:50:33 PM  
Look at all the laws we can brag about breaking! Take that, libtardos!
 
2014-07-23 01:52:06 PM  

LazarusLong42: Tax Boy: snowshovel: I found it funny that the girl was wondering if the Democrats were following her on twitter at the end. Because the very first thing James Bond does when he goes on a super secret mission is to post on twitter about it.

...

That's not his real name.


www.liveforfilms.com
 
2014-07-23 01:53:58 PM  

2.bp.blogspot.com

 
2014-07-23 01:56:33 PM  
The woman who's talking sounds like she has something caught in her throat. It's an incredibly irritating voice.
 
2014-07-23 02:03:36 PM  

Tax Boy: paganj:

James Bond is the code name for whichever agent had the 007 position. That's why he's so many different people. Study it out.

LazarusLong42:
...

That's not his real name.

Clearly reading books is hard for you and even watching Skyfall was a challenge.


I'm sorry I was just passing along something I read years ago. I apologize if I offended your delicate fanboy sensibilities. Perhaps if you stopped reading grocery store trash and tried some real literature you mighty lighten up a bit.
 
2014-07-23 02:05:59 PM  

Snarfangel: Maybe they think he will say something in private he wouldn't dare in public...
[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x478]


I just don't remember that being a Democratic staffer. Do you?
 
2014-07-23 02:19:05 PM  

Tax Boy: paganj:

James Bond is the code name for whichever agent had the 007 position. That's why he's so many different people. Study it out.

LazarusLong42:
...

That's not his real name.

Clearly reading books is hard for you and even watching Skyfall was a challenge.


Lol, wow. James Bond: Serious Business.
 
2014-07-23 02:47:36 PM  

Muta: FTA: A spokesman for the Michigan Republican Party acknowledged Wednesday the state party sent staffers Natalie Collins and Kyle Anderson into the fundraiser to videotape Schauer and his running mate, Oakland County Clerk Lisa Brown.

So they admit they broke the law.

Under Michigan law, any person who willfully uses any device to overhear or record a conversation without the consent of all parties is guilty of illegal eavesdropping, whether or not they were present for the conversation. Illegal eavesdropping can be punished as a felony carrying a jail term of up to two years and a fine of up to $2,000. Mich. Comp. Laws § 750.539c.

And since the Republican Party acknowledged they were the ones who sent them, they too are guilty.

I look forward to the attorney general prosecuting these criminals and they organization.


FYI, it depends what the definition of "eavesdrop" is. For instance, Michigan courts have ruled that the term eavesdrop means to "overhear, record, amplify or transmit any part of the private discourse of others;" therefore if you are part of the discourse, by definition you are not eavesdropping and you can record without the consent of others. One could possibly argue that a speech is not private discourse, or that listening to a speech in plain sight counts as being a participant (successfully arguing these points is another matter). I think the question would be if the gathering would be considered invite-only. If not, you can possibly add trespassing to the list of charges.

Disclaimer: IANAL. This is just what I found on the internet.
 
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