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2014-07-23 03:34:35 PM  
I like my 9/80 much better than I did 10/40 and 8/80 might be even better, but I don't think I could get everything done that I need to in three 10 or 11 hour days.
 
2014-07-23 04:24:23 PM  

timujin: I like my 9/80 much better than I did 10/40 and 8/80 might be even better, but I don't think I could get everything done that I need to in three 10 or 11 hour days.


I am torn between having enjoyed my extended weekend schedule for short climbing vacations and the value of small breaks throughout the work week rather than single blocks of time.
 
2014-07-23 04:27:22 PM  
Monday Wednesday Friday work days sound awesome.  Or Monday Tuesday Thursday..

what days would you want to work?
 
2014-07-23 04:32:02 PM  
I usually work Mondays, Wednesday and Thursday. I also work a little bit on Friday, when I have time. Usually I don't, I'm too busy living my life.

And I usually take 2-3 months of vacations in a year.

I've discovered than anything more and I don't have time to actually live. So, of course I'm earning less than I'd earned if I worked 7 days a week. But I'm actually living my life while I have health and energy to enjoy it.
 
2014-07-23 04:33:09 PM  
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be ideal.

It would save me a metric shiatload of daycare costs, and a not insignificant amount of fuel.

/although so would being allowed to work from home
 
2014-07-23 04:33:37 PM  
Robots will raise unemployment to 80% in the next 40 years anyway. May as well figure out how to have a good time.
 
2014-07-23 04:33:59 PM  
The more things get automated, the more we're going to have to consider what to do about an abundance of labor. Labor-saving devices are going to save labor. We're going to have more people that need to work than there are jobs to do.
 
2014-07-23 04:38:02 PM  

El Dudereno: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be ideal.

It would save me a metric shiatload of daycare costs, and a not insignificant amount of fuel.

/although so would being allowed to work from home


This is what I do, and it makes the 5-day work week a pretty nice setup.

Gonz: The more things get automated, the more we're going to have to consider what to do about an abundance of labor. Labor-saving devices are going to save labor. We're going to have more people that need to work than there are jobs to do.


[sarcasm]

Automation has never happened before, and certainly not in times of rapidly increasing population. What a conundrum.

[/sarcasm]
 
2014-07-23 04:38:53 PM  
we should all be college professors?
 
2014-07-23 04:39:15 PM  
That's why he's only the SECOND richest guy in the world (stolen from Colbert)
 
2014-07-23 04:44:02 PM  
That would be great but a lot of us would have bosses that would ask us to come in on the weekend. My job would change a lot if that happend since I manage a loading dock and everything is on a schedule.
 
2014-07-23 04:45:41 PM  
9/80 is nice. 4x10 with 4 day weekends every other is better.
 
2014-07-23 04:47:13 PM  
Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat
 
2014-07-23 04:48:18 PM  

mrlewish: Monday Wednesday Friday work days sound awesome.  Or Monday Tuesday Thursday..

what days would you want to work?


These.  Mon, Tue, Thu.  A little mini-weekend right in the middle, followed by a proper one right where it should be.
 
2014-07-23 04:49:39 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat


Sounds like you need to work smarter, buddy, not harder.
 
2014-07-23 04:51:56 PM  
Work a 9/80 schedule here and I like it....three day weekend every other week is cool.  Done the 4/10 thing and that extra hour was a biatch, but we start at 5AM or 6AM, depending the time of year so that has something to do with it (getting up at 4AM vs 5AM).
 
2014-07-23 04:52:08 PM  
Seconded...
 
2014-07-23 04:54:41 PM  
So then does that we move to a 3 day school week, or do we hire a bunch of teachers to only work 2 days a week?
 
2014-07-23 05:02:54 PM  

El Dudereno: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be ideal.

It would save me a metric shiatload of daycare costs, and a not insignificant amount of fuel.

/although so would being allowed to work from home


I would be totally up for the three day burn, four day break.
 
2014-07-23 05:03:39 PM  
Semi-random schedules - the freelance lifestyle - is more in line with what's coming over the next decade or two. Most folks won't have a regular schedule.

The whole "nobody will need to work" thing only goes so far (for the near future, at least). Some jobs will be in demand (like fixing all of that automation), others will be going away (most fast-food and large-scale retail).

The hard part will be finding something useful for the less-skilled to do... Like this?
 
2014-07-23 05:14:38 PM  
I would be happy just to work from home one god damn day a week. I work a 5/10 minimum lol. Commute a 5/3 minimum. FML
 
2014-07-23 05:16:40 PM  
I'm sure you would all be singing different tunes after a while of only being paid for working 3 days a week. Oh, you thought your salary would stay at what you earn for a 5 day week? Let me laugh even harder.
 
2014-07-23 05:21:04 PM  

extroverted_suicide: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like you need to work smarter, buddy, not harder.


Nah, we bill by the hour and the client loves to make last minute changes.
 
2014-07-23 05:26:57 PM  
Three-day work week would only mean all those people who now work two or three jobs would go out and get two more three-day jobs.
 
2014-07-23 05:37:40 PM  
Or I could just move to Germany now...

/hmmm
 
2014-07-23 05:49:29 PM  

umad: I'm sure you would all be singing different tunes after a while of only being paid for working 3 days a week. Oh, you thought your salary would stay at what you earn for a 5 day week? Let me laugh even harder.


This. The reduction is meant to hire 2 workers for the price of one. No burnout on a 3 day week. Of course when the building butns down, that's another story
 
2014-07-23 05:59:49 PM  
i already do this. only work on wed, thurs, fri.....
 
2014-07-23 06:02:24 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat


Way to be a slave to your corporate masters.
 
2014-07-23 06:06:46 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat


Sounds like your company needs to hire more employees and knock that unemployment number down.
 
2014-07-23 06:16:13 PM  

12349876: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like your company needs to hire more employees and knock that unemployment number down.


How can a company do that in Obama's economy, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton Benghazi?
 
2014-07-23 06:18:01 PM  

12349876: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like your company needs to hire more employees and knock that unemployment number down.


Good luck finding help that isn't shiat. We go through so many idiots.
 
2014-07-23 06:19:20 PM  
Sounds great except for that retirement at 70-75 part
 
2014-07-23 06:24:53 PM  

extroverted_suicide: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like you need to work smarter, buddy, not harder.


dilbert.com
 
2014-07-23 07:36:35 PM  

Intrepid00: 12349876: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like your company needs to hire more employees and knock that unemployment number down.

Good luck finding help that isn't shiat. We go through so many idiots.


Thinking it's good to work 50 hours a week seems pretty idiotic.
 
2014-07-23 08:00:19 PM  
Doing a 4 day schedule here, 2x11hrs, 2x9hrs, kind of a biatch because my days off are Tuesday-Thursday. But in general
it goes pretty well.
Lots of emails to cull through when I'm back on Friday.
 
2014-07-23 09:25:39 PM  

cirby: The whole "nobody will need to work" thing only goes so far (for the near future, at least). Some jobs will be in demand (like fixing all of that automation), others will be going away (most fast-food and large-scale retail).


Retail and service positions are the ones everyone knows about, but there's plenty of "proper" jobs that will have far fewer needed workers due to technology leading to increased efficiency - supposedly law firms need about half the staff they needed 20 years ago, and something similar is happening with accounting firms.

And of course there's a few jobs that will permanently die out - Automated cars alone are gonna kill off taxis and long haul freight transport (truckers) in the next decade.
 
2014-07-23 10:21:09 PM  

Gunther: cirby: The whole "nobody will need to work" thing only goes so far (for the near future, at least). Some jobs will be in demand (like fixing all of that automation), others will be going away (most fast-food and large-scale retail).

Retail and service positions are the ones everyone knows about, but there's plenty of "proper" jobs that will have far fewer needed workers due to technology leading to increased efficiency - supposedly law firms need about half the staff they needed 20 years ago, and something similar is happening with accounting firms.

And of course there's a few jobs that will permanently die out - Automated cars alone are gonna kill off taxis and long haul freight transport (truckers) in the next decade.


So how close are automated cars to being commercially viable?
 
2014-07-23 10:26:14 PM  

llortcM_yllort: So how close are automated cars to being commercially viable?


The tech is here now, it depends entirely on how they're regulated. I give it a decade before we're all using Johnny Cabs.

files.abovetopsecret.com
 
2014-07-23 11:29:35 PM  
World's second richest man touts the value of a 3-day work week.

People working for the world's second richest man still working 5 day work weeks.


Shut up and do it, smart guy.
 
2014-07-23 11:30:59 PM  

llortcM_yllort: So how close are automated cars to being commercially viable?


The technology will be ready within 5 years, and broadly affordable within 10.

Lawmakers won't be comfortable with the idea for another 20, though.
 
2014-07-24 02:05:49 AM  
I'd be happy working 3-4 days a week, even if it means working longer days.

Just can't get everything I need done in 2 days off, much less enjoying life and relaxing.
 
2014-07-24 04:32:34 AM  
4 10s isn't bad plenty of time to enjoy a weekend. 3 12s is too much, everyone I've known whose done both prefers 4 10s. There was some math a ways back that showed the amount of fuel that would be saved by shifting to 4 day work weeks, but that relied on keeping a 5 day week but staggering the workforce. 20% less commuters reducing traffic so you drive less and when you do drive there is less traffic as well.

/Normal work week is 5 days between 9 and 11 hours.
 
2014-07-24 07:29:37 AM  

extroverted_suicide: Smeggy Smurf: Yeah, we can hardly get the work done as it is with 40 and 50 hour weeks and you want us to cut back?  Let me mock you as your economy goes to shiat

Sounds like you need to work smarter, buddy, not harder.


I don't really think that's an option for smeggy.
 
2014-07-24 07:47:44 AM  
If I worked for someone else, I would work Tues, Wed, Thurs.
 
2014-07-24 08:12:26 AM  

altside: we should all be college professors?


You do realize college professors teach more than one class and have to prepare material to teach said classes, right?
 
2014-07-24 08:15:24 AM  

YixilTesiphon: El Dudereno: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday would be ideal.

It would save me a metric shiatload of daycare costs, and a not insignificant amount of fuel.

/although so would being allowed to work from home

This is what I do, and it makes the 5-day work week a pretty nice setup.

Gonz: The more things get automated, the more we're going to have to consider what to do about an abundance of labor. Labor-saving devices are going to save labor. We're going to have more people that need to work than there are jobs to do.

[sarcasm]

Automation has never happened before, and certainly not in times of rapidly increasing population. What a conundrum.

[/sarcasm]


Yeah mechanical shovels and tree choppers aren't the same thing as software and hardware that can design and assemble.
 
2014-07-24 08:46:34 AM  
We could do it if we got the $1.35 minimum wage of the 60's adjusted for inflation. That'd run them about $45.90 an hour.In fact back then wasn't a 30 hour week a goal?
 
kab
2014-07-24 08:56:27 AM  

mrlewish: Monday Wednesday Friday work days sound awesome.  Or Monday Tuesday Thursday..

what days would you want to work?


Mon - Tues - Wed, with 4 straight off.

Many industries have no real reason for a 5 day work week as it stands now.   It's nothing more than a 'but... that's how we'v always done it' mentality, much like office work that can absolutely be done from home, but people go to a site anyhow.

The good news is that eventually, shorter work weeks will simply be a reality rather than a 'what if', thanks to technology.
 
2014-07-24 09:07:51 AM  
I am in the office Monday,Tuesday and Thursday, and at home Wednesday and Friday.  I am enjoying it but working toward more work from home days.

When I went over to France, I was expecting a 35 hour work week.  What I got was a 45 hour work week it seemed.  It was an international project however, so that might have had something to do with it.
 
2014-07-24 09:16:47 AM  
Typical lazy Mexican.

Life is meant to be endured. Work from sunup until you are done, and if you finish early, find some other way to be useful.

You can relax and enjoy life when you are dead.
 
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