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(USA Today)   Ukraine shoots down two of its own fighter jets in order to make the rebels look bad   (usatoday.com) divider line 174
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2014-07-23 08:47:26 AM  
Nice.

right near where the passenger jet went down too.
 
2014-07-23 09:18:45 AM  
Well at least commercial airlines seem to have gotten the message.  Eastern Ukraine's airspace resembles best Korea's.
 
2014-07-23 09:45:08 AM  
No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.
 
2014-07-23 09:46:54 AM  

nekom: Well at least commercial airlines seem to have gotten the message.  Eastern Ukraine's airspace resembles best Korea's.


Yeah, they can safely shoot at anything in the air now.
 
2014-07-23 09:47:27 AM  

rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.


Conservative porn thread?
 
2014-07-23 09:50:37 AM  
How did we decide it was definitely an SA-11 that shot down MH17 anyway? Is it the only missile launcher they could possibly have in that location with the range or something?
 
2014-07-23 09:50:50 AM  
It's probably lost on everyone, but every time one boards a plane now, there's a little "Do I feel lucky?" flashing though your mind. But don't worry, a firing solution for a heavy commercial flight at 560 knots at 33,000 feet would take a highly skilled and educated operator. Unless he gets lucky, too.

marketingland.com
 
2014-07-23 09:51:57 AM  
Obama to interrupt next fund raiser long enough to write a stern letter to all involved.  AFTER  a round of golf and a beer at the 19th hole.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:02 AM  
They loaded the fighter jets with corpses, sent them up like drones, brought them down with surface to air missiles.  Ground recovery crews want to know why there were 20 people aboard each of the fighter jets.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:45 AM  
That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:57 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: How did we decide it was definitely an SA-11 that shot down MH17 anyway? Is it the only missile launcher they could possibly have in that location with the range or something?


For the same reason the US knows exactly where that launcher was and who fired it.  SIGINT.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:58 AM  
FTA (Photo caption): Two Russian-built Sukhoi-25 jet fighters, like this one that belongs to the Iraq defense forces, were reportedly shot down July 23 over eastern Ukraine.

No, that won't cause any confusion AT ALL!
 
2014-07-23 09:54:25 AM  
Kids got their toys back, I see.
 
2014-07-23 09:54:57 AM  

Sammichless: rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.

Conservative porn thread?


I was thinking Bear Cavalry thread

portal.paseban.com
 
2014-07-23 09:55:03 AM  
Subby stole my headline (which was much better) and bastardized it.
 
2014-07-23 09:55:59 AM  

rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.


Who was shirtless?  Putin or the bear?
 
2014-07-23 09:56:18 AM  
And on the breaking news header a Taiwanese plane crashed.

Bad week for air travel.
 
2014-07-23 09:57:02 AM  

Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.


Check your sarcasm meter, I think.
 
2014-07-23 09:57:49 AM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Obama to interrupt next fund raiser long enough to write a stern letter to all involved.  AFTER  a round of golf and a beer at the 19th hole.


i1199.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-23 09:57:51 AM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Obama to interrupt next fund raiser long enough to write a stern letter to all involved.  AFTER  a round of golf and a beer at the 19th hole.


Yes, Obama must respond to all aircraft being shot down, including military aircraft belonging to a foreign country currently engaged in a conflict.
 
2014-07-23 09:58:16 AM  

BitwiseShift: It's probably lost on everyone, but every time one boards a plane now, there's a little "Do I feel lucky?" flashing though your mind. But don't worry, a firing solution for a heavy commercial flight at 560 knots at 33,000 feet would take a highly skilled and educated operator. Unless he gets lucky, too.

[marketingland.com image 600x322]


since the most hostile place my next flight is going to fly over is Cleveland, I think I'll take my chances.
 
2014-07-23 09:58:26 AM  

ManateeGag: rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.

Who was shirtless?  Putin or the bear?


It's a trick.  Putin IS the bear.
 
2014-07-23 09:59:01 AM  
John McCain: "Clearly we need to give the Ukrainian government a B2."
 
2014-07-23 09:59:18 AM  
Shot down, broke down, doesn't matter at this point
 
2014-07-23 10:00:02 AM  
 
2014-07-23 10:03:07 AM  
You guys, why won't the president start a world war over this? Russia is clearly winning here.
 
2014-07-23 10:03:29 AM  
pbs.twimg.com

/phrasing...
 
2014-07-23 10:03:30 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: How did we decide it was definitely an SA-11 that shot down MH17 anyway? Is it the only missile launcher they could possibly have in that location with the range or something?


http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/07/russia-shoots-down-malaysian-m h17.html?m=1
 
2014-07-23 10:05:12 AM  
That was some terrible reporting. The designation is Su-25, not Sukhoi-25. Also, given the documented combat record of the Su-25, this isn't really surprising. Frogfoots are shiat.
 
2014-07-23 10:05:12 AM  

Tom_Slick: Sammichless: rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.

Conservative porn thread?

I was thinking Bear Cavalry thread

[portal.paseban.com image 640x480]


Awesome.

/I could fap to that.
 
2014-07-23 10:06:02 AM  
So we are starting to supply Muslims who are fighting Russians with non-lethal supplies and training are we? That could never come back and bite us in the arse later
 
2014-07-23 10:06:26 AM  

Arkanaut: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Obama to interrupt next fund raiser long enough to write a stern letter to all involved.  AFTER  a round of golf and a beer at the 19th hole.

Yes, Obama must respond to all aircraft being shot down, including military aircraft belonging to a foreign country currently engaged in a conflict.


..and if he did, the reich-wingers would gripe about how he's interefering in other peoples affairs and should be focusing on domestic problems. There's literally nothing he does or could do that they wouldn't whine about.

Anybody else having problems with TFA? It was like a russian nesting doll of pop-ups for me, but the pop-ups seemed to be trying to be the article, but failing.
 
2014-07-23 10:06:29 AM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Obama to interrupt next fund raiser long enough to write a stern letter to all involved.  AFTER  a round of golf and a beer at the 19th hole.


Uhhhh......I am not certain that that had anything to do with the conversation.
 
2014-07-23 10:06:52 AM  
Good troll, subs.   That'll lure in the Putin shill from the other thread.
 
2014-07-23 10:07:36 AM  

Vodka Zombie: ManateeGag: rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.

Who was shirtless?  Putin or the bear?

It's a trick.  Putin IS the bear.


He certainly is.

/Grrrr.
 
2014-07-23 10:07:37 AM  
You know, for safety's sake, we really do need a proving ground for our drone arsenal. I'm sure Ukraine wouldn't mind NOT losing a few jets and pilots while we test-drove a few Lockheed specialty products...
 
2014-07-23 10:07:56 AM  
Christ, there's been another bad crash - http://news.yahoo.com/plane-crashes-bad-weather-taiwan-killing-51-135 0 48061.html

I'm not going to be flying anywhere for a while.
 
2014-07-23 10:10:13 AM  

mikaloyd: So we are starting to supply Muslims who are fighting Russians with non-lethal supplies and training are we? That could never come back and bite us in the arse later


Muslims? I thought they were neo-nazis?
 
2014-07-23 10:10:23 AM  

cc_rider: Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.

Check your sarcasm meter, I think.


Oh, sarcasm just means being wrong now? Sorry, I didn't get the memo.
 
2014-07-23 10:10:47 AM  

Medic Zero: reich-wingers


I like this.
 
2014-07-23 10:13:28 AM  

RINO: That was some terrible reporting. The designation is Su-25, not Sukhoi-25. Also, given the documented combat record of the Su-25, this isn't really surprising. Frogfoots are shiat.


I keep up to date with defense/news from around the world; I am willing to bet the Su-25's were not even shot down; rather they were not maintained at all and likely crashed due to lack of maintenance. Last time I checked Ukraine had over 40 Su-25's in service since 2001; however that number dropped down to barely 10 last time I checked.

Lack of spare parts and piss poor maintenance; yeah I can see them going down without a sam fired.
 
2014-07-23 10:13:43 AM  

traylor: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x284]

/phrasing...


Holy hell that's poor syntax for delivering clear and concise information. Someone needs to get them one of these stat.
 
2014-07-23 10:13:47 AM  

Arkanaut: cc_rider: Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.

Check your sarcasm meter, I think.

Oh, sarcasm just means being wrong now? Sorry, I didn't get the memo.


Not big on lateral thinking, are we?
 
2014-07-23 10:15:49 AM  
Clearly the insurgents were angered by people posting pictures of the complicated control panel for a SAM and saying there's no way a vodka-soaked, pro-Russian dimwit could operate one. Showed them! Showed them good! Ha! Wait...
 
2014-07-23 10:17:30 AM  

ManateeGag: BitwiseShift: It's probably lost on everyone, but every time one boards a plane now, there's a little "Do I feel lucky?" flashing though your mind. But don't worry, a firing solution for a heavy commercial flight at 560 knots at 33,000 feet would take a highly skilled and educated operator. Unless he gets lucky, too.

[marketingland.com image 600x322]

since the most hostile place my next flight is going to fly over is Cleveland, I think I'll take my chances.


All you need to worry about is the disproportionate number of serial killers that emerge from that godforsaken hellhole.
 
2014-07-23 10:17:52 AM  
Over Macho Grande?
 
2014-07-23 10:18:49 AM  

Arkanaut: cc_rider: Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.

Check your sarcasm meter, I think.

Oh, sarcasm just means being wrong now? Sorry, I didn't get the memo.



And you've never seen a troll-y my favorite website headline in the whole time you've been hanging out on here?

Allrighty then.
 
2014-07-23 10:19:03 AM  

Arkanaut: cc_rider: Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.

Check your sarcasm meter, I think.

Oh, sarcasm just means being wrong now? Sorry, I didn't get the memo.


That's some serious joke comprehension fail there, Arkanaut.
 
2014-07-23 10:21:10 AM  

Vodka Zombie: ManateeGag: rwfan: No doubt they thought Putin was doing a flyover photo op.

In a fighter jet.  While riding a bear.  Shirtless.

Who was shirtless?  Putin or the bear?

It's a trick.  Putin IS the bear.


Putin doesn't have a beard.
 
2014-07-23 10:21:23 AM  

Arkanaut: cc_rider: Arkanaut: That's some serious reading comprehension fail there, subby.

Check your sarcasm meter, I think.

Oh, sarcasm just means being wrong now? Sorry, I didn't get the memo.


To explain the joke: Russian media is trying desperately to imply that the evidence on MH-17 points to Ukraine or one of its Western allies being behind the crash, either mistaking it for Putin's private plane that flew in the previous day, intentionally targeting a civilian plane with the intention of framing the insurgents of the crime, or purposely mocking up a fake crash in the area to blame on the rebel groups. So if there is no way those groups could have been able to down a civilian plane, it stands to reason that Ukraine must be shooting down their own military jets too.
 
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