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(The Cannabist)   "I'm a committed, lifelong gamer but my dirty secret is that I avoid any online entanglements. Playing GTA or Red Dead Redemption online is like hanging out with a bunch of testosterone-fueled children I'd never want to be around in real life"   (thecannabist.co) divider line 174
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2014-07-23 09:15:01 AM  
Corpse-camping griefers and serial gankers in MMORPGs can really make one lose all hope in humanities chances of ever getting taken seriously as a sentient species by other intelligent life forms in the galaxy.
 
2014-07-23 09:17:18 AM  
I'm the same way. I love video games but I really hate actual human beings in them. If I wanted to hang out with people I'd go to a bar.
 
2014-07-23 09:24:29 AM  
I hate all you people in this thread. You f*ckers.
 
2014-07-23 09:27:04 AM  
I'm not big on most online games.  Last MMORPG I played for any length of time was Ultima Online waaaay back in the day.  I tried a Star Wars one briefly, but basically played it single player or with one friend.

Occasionally, something competitive-ish and free like War Thunder or whatever I don't mind hopping onto and shooting at a few people/getting shot for a little bit, but those games are pretty quick and there isn't much room to do anything but be briefly annoying.
 
2014-07-23 09:37:44 AM  
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"Let's just say we'd like to avoid any Imperial online entanglements".
 
2014-07-23 09:44:50 AM  
In my old age, I'd rather play through a decent story solo than grind out gun unlocks in competitive EXTREME multiplayer. Dark Souls multiplayer is fine though, since it's integrated into the experience.
 
2014-07-23 09:45:29 AM  
That's one reason for me. The other is that if you want to play with friends then you all have to coordinate scheduling which I don't really like doing either. Sometimes I just want to boot up and play for half an hour and then be done. I don't want to be strapped to a party for a few hours while we work through our gaming agenda. That makes gaming seem like work.
 
2014-07-23 09:47:42 AM  
If I want a multiplayer game, I'll sit around a table with friends, beer, and dice. I play video games when I don't have actual people to play games with.
 
2014-07-23 09:49:11 AM  
That about sums it up for me to.  Only online game I ever really enjoyed was LOTRO, because you could pretty much chose to play solo if you wanted for the most part, and people tended not to be AHoles too much.

Only time I played online games a lot was back when I was in college with a lot of personal (real life) friends who also were gamers, and we all played together.  Once we all grew up and had schedules and kids and jobs, playing together stopped, and it was "play with strangers" or "don't play online".  Tried the former, stuck with the latter.

These days, any game where a significant component is online, I have no interest in it.
 
2014-07-23 09:51:37 AM  

quatchi: Corpse-camping griefers and serial gankers in MMORPGs can really make one lose all hope in humanities chances of ever getting taken seriously as a sentient species by other intelligent life forms in the galaxy.


yeah i am surprised an mmorpg has not developed a system whereby players can opt out of pvp
 
2014-07-23 09:52:07 AM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Dark Souls multiplayer is fine though, since it's integrated into the experience.


I actually ended up turning off Dark/Demon's Souls multiplayer, once I got sick of getting attacked by random power gamers.  I just wanted to play the game, not get invaded every 20 minutes and loose my progress after nearly getting to the boss.  Ended up just playing in "dead" mode to avoid invasions until I realized I could disconnect from the PSN and play in "alive" mode w/o fear of invasion, and the game was far more enjoyable.  I missed the ghosts and shadows though.  Just wish there was a mode where you could just say "Don't let me get invaded" and leave the ghosts/notes/shadows.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:54 AM  
He made two arguments here. One is that he doesnt play online because he's bad at video games and get killed by 14 year old kids. No argument from me there. Second, he described how he doesnt play online because of the verbal abuses and grieving. As a self-proclaimed gamer, he should be knowledgable enough to avoid going online on video games that are known to have a terrible reputation/community, such as GTAO, RDR, and CoD, all of which he mentioned.

I've made some great friendships playing MMOs such as WoW. The trick there was to avoid servers that are known to be full of douchebags, and yep, consider joining an RP server.
 
2014-07-23 09:53:22 AM  
OTOH, RDR, GTA and tons of other games played solo are damned fun,
and really don't need yammering crotchspawn yammering in your ear to enjoy.

where's my fallout 4???????
 
2014-07-23 09:56:16 AM  
King of the MMO Assholes has to go to EVE.
 
2014-07-23 09:58:29 AM  

odinsposse: That's one reason for me. The other is that if you want to play with friends then you all have to coordinate scheduling which I don't really like doing either. Sometimes I just want to boot up and play for half an hour and then be done. I don't want to be strapped to a party for a few hours while we work through our gaming agenda. That makes gaming seem like work.


A few friends and I tried scheduling some gaming time about a year ago, this was made difficult due to timezone differences.  We finally managed to find a 30 minute window on Mondays when Top Gear was in reruns.  The window went away not to long after we started due to someone taking a new job.  Now its just ad hoc joining up with someone if they happen to be on and playing what I want to play.

I've found that as I've aged I actually prefer slower paced games (even in FPS) to twitchier ones - When I was in my late teens Call of Duty was awesome, Halo was to slow.  Nowadays CoD is way to fast and the maps are way to small while Halo 4 is the right speed for me.  I haven't played an MMO seriously in years since the guild I used to play with disintegrated, I like the genre, but I find them tedious if you don't have the social aspect to keep you hooked.
 
2014-07-23 09:58:49 AM  
God, I thought I was alone... I've played CounterStrike since it was in the beta days, and I'll still play that occasionally. TF2 is still pretty fun, and lately, I've started playing Ghost Recon: Phantoms, but that's it. 3 titles in 15 years of online gaming. There are different reasons, some nights I don't want to put up with the 12 year olds on Red Bull who have talked their folks into a top of the line machine. Other nights, I get the game loaded, play for a minute or two, and decide I was wrong. Sometimes, it just isn't fun. I don't like my whims impacting other people's enjoyment, so I feel guilty if I leave early...

I really resent games that don't have a single player element. When I started playing, online was the 'bonus content', not the main game.
 
2014-07-23 10:00:17 AM  

PhDemented: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Dark Souls multiplayer is fine though, since it's integrated into the experience.

I actually ended up turning off Dark/Demon's Souls multiplayer, once I got sick of getting attacked by random power gamers.  I just wanted to play the game, not get invaded every 20 minutes and loose my progress after nearly getting to the boss.  Ended up just playing in "dead" mode to avoid invasions until I realized I could disconnect from the PSN and play in "alive" mode w/o fear of invasion, and the game was far more enjoyable.  I missed the ghosts and shadows though.  Just wish there was a mode where you could just say "Don't let me get invaded" and leave the ghosts/notes/shadows.


I did that in Demon's and maybe the first Dark, but Dark Souls 2 managed to ride that fine line between benefit and punishment.
 
2014-07-23 10:01:06 AM  

PhDemented: Only time I played online games a lot was back when I was in college with a lot of personal (real life) friends who also were gamers, and we all played together. Once we all grew up and had schedules and kids and jobs, playing together stopped, and it was "play with strangers" or "don't play online". Tried the former, stuck with the latter.


This is exactly it, right here.

When gaming time is minimized by life, you want nice small chunks you can chip away at on your own time.

When my second daughter was born in 2011, it was Skyrim that got me through the sleepless nights.


Console gaming has ruined multiplayer.

And don't even get me started about XBOX gold. F*cking rip off scam artist mother*ckers.
 
2014-07-23 10:02:26 AM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: PhDemented: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Dark Souls multiplayer is fine though, since it's integrated into the experience.

I actually ended up turning off Dark/Demon's Souls multiplayer, once I got sick of getting attacked by random power gamers.  I just wanted to play the game, not get invaded every 20 minutes and loose my progress after nearly getting to the boss.  Ended up just playing in "dead" mode to avoid invasions until I realized I could disconnect from the PSN and play in "alive" mode w/o fear of invasion, and the game was far more enjoyable.  I missed the ghosts and shadows though.  Just wish there was a mode where you could just say "Don't let me get invaded" and leave the ghosts/notes/shadows.

I did that in Demon's and maybe the first Dark, but Dark Souls 2 managed to ride that fine line between benefit and punishment.


Scratch that. I played Demon's as undead the entire time to avoid the hassle.
 
2014-07-23 10:02:47 AM  
I played GTA V Online for about 20 minutes before I decided fark this and never tried it again. Never got deep into any MMOs despite trying, because I don't have the time to sink into them and some of the players take them way too damn seriously and squash any bit of joy or experimentation out of it for "noobs."

I did spend several hours this morning playing the Destiny beta on XBone and it's pretty enjoyable so far, although everyone I saw was running around doing there own thing and not even attempting to interact with each other.

/still have one Destiny beta key for the XBone if anyone wants it.
 
2014-07-23 10:03:39 AM  
I played GTA online for about 20 minutes.  Got tired of it quick then went back to the Single Player.  It was like watching chimps at the zoo.
 
2014-07-23 10:07:11 AM  
I kind of wish total war had a campaign multi player.... But yeah that's a serious life commitment.

So I will continue to enjoy it by myself
 
2014-07-23 10:08:08 AM  
Single player modes offer no challenges.

Human opponents ie multiplayer mode do.


Maybe the author should stick to Hello Kitty Adventure Island.

I hear Mike likes that game too.
 
2014-07-23 10:12:02 AM  
My sister is a lawyer. My brother is a doctor. I'm a gamer.
 
2014-07-23 10:12:32 AM  
I play Counterstrike because of the people who play.

I also consider never playing Counterstrike again because of the people who play.
 
2014-07-23 10:15:11 AM  

elvisaintdead: OTOH, RDR, GTA and tons of other games played solo are damned fun,
and really don't need yammering crotchspawn yammering in your ear to enjoy.

where's my fallout 4???????


There is a reason those games have a convenient "mute player" function.

Kinda wish there was a "don't get shot by crazy old Mexican woman riding a fast ass zebra" function in RDR though.
 
2014-07-23 10:16:09 AM  
World War 2 Online was is the only MMO I consistently played. Small enough community and complex enough game play that it kept the kids and griefers away.
 
2014-07-23 10:17:46 AM  
Glad to see I'm not alone in my refusal to wade into online multiplayer. I attempted it with the original X-Box and Crimson Skies and hated listening to all the kids playing. Can't imagine it's gotten better. Maybe it's an age thing at this point.
 
2014-07-23 10:18:20 AM  

Ethertap: When I was in my late teens Call of Duty was awesome, Halo was to slow.  Nowadays CoD is way to fast and the maps are way to small while Halo 4 is the right speed for me.


to be fair, cod has drastically ramped up the speed in the last few iterations, with smaller maps, more chaotic spawning, and flashier killstreaks

Rev.K: Console gaming has ruined multiplayer.


only to the extent that the elimination of dedicated servers is a Really Bad Thing
 
2014-07-23 10:18:27 AM  

wesmon: World War 2 Online was is the only MMO I consistently played. Small enough community and complex enough game play that it kept the kids and griefers away.


The ARMA series is the same way....except there are less keyboard commands to remember.
 
2014-07-23 10:18:47 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I play Counterstrike because of the people who play.

I also consider never playing Counterstrike again because of the people who play.


I was a life long Quake player; hell I was part of the traveling Lan Brigade that went to different internet cafes to play for cash and prizes; back then a decent voodoo 2 video card ran over $500, I managed to win two at that time. I did try to go professional with counterstrike in the early days; biggest problem was getting a bunch of ego driven teenagers to work together; everyone was more involved in their little world then actually sitting down and coming up with a decent game plan.

Cal league was mostly bullshiat as well, as for some of the teams/players. Much as I loved Quake; the only game I can see myself playing now a days is DayZ standalone if it ever gets finished - I had a great crew that ran around stealing from every other server.

/Funniest Dayz moment when we raided the northwest airfield; one of my friends decided it would be funny to throw a smoke grenade and scream on skype "dude I think someone is here;  I turn around after picking up an M-40 only to see my other friend just open up with a 240 Bravo. Fark.
//Helicopter flying was fun as well; until the hackers spawn inside your helicopter and blow it up; along with most of Chenarus.
 
2014-07-23 10:19:52 AM  

Gaambit: Glad to see I'm not alone in my refusal to wade into online multiplayer. I attempted it with the original X-Box and Crimson Skies and hated listening to all the kids playing. Can't imagine it's gotten better. Maybe it's an age thing at this point.


"Secrets. Golden secrets..."
 
2014-07-23 10:20:44 AM  
When I was in college Diablo came out.  My close friends noticed the time-suck almost immediately and within a week four or five of them had gone out and spent the money to buy the game (we were poor college students...fifty bucks meant alot back then) and we were putting in a ridiculous amount of time playing.

When Diablo 2 came out we'd just graduated and were getting careers together.  We played together a few times online.  Not that much though.

This past Fall Diablo 3 came out for the XBox 360 and all of us were at the point where we'd had kids that were a few years old or didn't have any at all.  There were four of us who would text back and forth during the day to see if we we'd be around that night for some fun. We'd plan to play from 8 to 10 PM but usually it was around 1 AM where we'd have to admit that we were too bleary-eyed to continue on.  Even to this day we pop into each others games to play if we see the each other online.

I think the key is controlling the experience.  If I've got some obnoxious kid throwing racial epithets I'm not going to be having much fun.  I wouldn't put up with that in real life, I won't online.
 
2014-07-23 10:21:33 AM  
I've got a love/hate thing with the online multiplayer. I too like a good story, but sometimes I just like to go in and do some semi-mindless shooting and the Battlefield series has been (mostly) fun for that. I like that the maps are larger and there's a value to actually working with your squad mates.

My friends and I also grew up playing hockey and video game hockey, so we have our team for NHL 14 and that is either a lot of fun or incredibly enraging. The lobbies and pre-game's are filled with racist, bigoted idiots who then exploit the bad programming to score the same goal over and over. That just does not seem to be a good time to me, but hey, I guess they need to brag about their 800 goals in 300 games.

I tried Red Dead Redemption and one of the Star Wars MMORPG but found both way to repetitive.
 
2014-07-23 10:23:01 AM  

PhDemented: Jaden Smith First of His Name: Dark Souls multiplayer is fine though, since it's integrated into the experience.

I actually ended up turning off Dark/Demon's Souls multiplayer, once I got sick of getting attacked by random power gamers.  I just wanted to play the game, not get invaded every 20 minutes and loose my progress after nearly getting to the boss.  Ended up just playing in "dead" mode to avoid invasions until I realized I could disconnect from the PSN and play in "alive" mode w/o fear of invasion, and the game was far more enjoyable.  I missed the ghosts and shadows though.  Just wish there was a mode where you could just say "Don't let me get invaded" and leave the ghosts/notes/shadows.


But then you miss the satisfaction of turning the tables on an invader and killing them.

The online multiplayer is why I put so many hours into Dark Souls. I loved getting summoned into other games to help out, and towards the end there, I also enjoyed being that invader you hated. I haven't played the second one yet, but I'm also looking forward to the multiplayer.

I like online multiplayer that doesn't let you talk to each other conventionally. In Dark Souls, you can only use emotes. In Journey, you have that chirp. That way I dn't have to put up with the annoying things people say and it can actually create a better online experience.
 
2014-07-23 10:24:19 AM  
I can't play any FPS online, too many idiot teens shouting obscenities. Add in the fact I'm a chick and I turn into a gigantic target for a bunch of kids who haven't seen a non-pixelated boob.

Funny enough, I did play WoW for years and met my husband off of it. I'm done with most MMOs though, too much of a time-sink.
 
2014-07-23 10:28:38 AM  
I've always hated online gaming.  Hell, I don't even like playing with another player in the same room as me.
 
2014-07-23 10:30:18 AM  
That's not a dirty secret.  That's the matter-of-fact life of anyone who plays online games.  You avoid childish douchebags like the plague.
 
2014-07-23 10:31:04 AM  
While playing the Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare fight-off-the-waves-of-zombies game online, I came across one clever chap from the other side of the pond. During the pre-game waiting period, he discovered a cliff, and before jumping, yelled, "ALLAH AKBAR." Then, during play, one of our teammates was not assisting other players as they were downed, and the Brit called him out on it, saying, "Don't help (name that I can't really recall). He's failed at making friends in the real world, and now he's failing at it in the fake one."  I was rather amused by it.
 
2014-07-23 10:31:22 AM  

sprawl15: quatchi: Corpse-camping griefers and serial gankers in MMORPGs can really make one lose all hope in humanities chances of ever getting taken seriously as a sentient species by other intelligent life forms in the galaxy.

yeah i am surprised an mmorpg has not developed a system whereby players can opt out of pvp


Been playing WoW for years, they have PVE servers that do not flag all participants unless you willfully attack the other party or manually select to turn it on yourself. Of course, being an MMO, people have found ways around this, but Blizzard is usually pretty good about fixing this. Most recent grievance has been the Timeless Isle coin farming griefers and the Cross Realm issues on Timeless Isle where if someone from a PVP server sets up as the leader of the party - it will pull everyone to that zone (and flag us all PVP).
 
2014-07-23 10:35:36 AM  
I've played MMOs for a very long time, but for the past five years or so I typically play them solo. I simply can't commit to consistently setting aside blocks of time for organized play. Casual guilds that I've tried fall apart too quickly, so I don't bother with them anymore. I just play solo, avoid group content, and cancel my subscription when I get bored.

I've encountered similar problems with other multiplayer games. I've wanted and been invited to play Civ V multiplayer, but everyone I've tried to play with have not followed through.
 
2014-07-23 10:36:29 AM  
I don't really care about the all the dumb people who play and their trash talk. Hell, my friends and I were trash talking each other on our college campus back when Mortal Kombat came out, that's hardly new.

I just have too many meaningful responsibilities to devote the time required to hone my skills in these games, so I see no reason in playing them competitively. I wouldn't go up against RGIII, who spends hours a day at the gym and in practice, in a punt/pass/kick competition, why would I go up against people who get home from school at 4:00 PM and then sit in front of Call of Duty until they go to bed? I just don't have the time to do that and, even if I did, I wouldn't.
 
2014-07-23 10:38:03 AM  
I avoid competitive multiplayer as much as I possibly can.  I really don't understand the need to try and shoehorn in multiplayer to every damn game that comes out these days.
 
2014-07-23 10:39:26 AM  

Gaambit: Glad to see I'm not alone in my refusal to wade into online multiplayer. I attempted it with the original X-Box and Crimson Skies and hated listening to all the kids playing. Can't imagine it's gotten better. Maybe it's an age thing at this point.


You're never alone in a circle jerk.
 
2014-07-23 10:39:55 AM  
I couldnt imagine how much time I have sunk in various online games, mainly FPSs but my only online experience for about a year is CoC.  Kids just get in way.
 
2014-07-23 10:40:37 AM  
Online gaming lets the game makers off the hook.  They don't need to come up with story lines or anything of substance.  Just make a world and let the gamers go.
 
2014-07-23 10:40:45 AM  

Crudbucket: /still have one Destiny beta key for the XBone if anyone wants it.


Uh...yes?
 
2014-07-23 10:42:11 AM  

bulldg4life: Crudbucket: /still have one Destiny beta key for the XBone if anyone wants it.

Uh...yes?


Sold
 
2014-07-23 10:45:04 AM  

RoosterCogburn: sprawl15: quatchi: Corpse-camping griefers and serial gankers in MMORPGs can really make one lose all hope in humanities chances of ever getting taken seriously as a sentient species by other intelligent life forms in the galaxy.

yeah i am surprised an mmorpg has not developed a system whereby players can opt out of pvp

Been playing WoW for years, they have PVE servers that do not flag all participants unless you willfully attack the other party or manually select to turn it on yourself. Of course, being an MMO, people have found ways around this, but Blizzard is usually pretty good about fixing this. Most recent grievance has been the Timeless Isle coin farming griefers and the Cross Realm issues on Timeless Isle where if someone from a PVP server sets up as the leader of the party - it will pull everyone to that zone (and flag us all PVP).


DAoC was only PVP if you went into the frontiers and even then it was mostly large scale battles were you worked as groups.  You really couldn't go alone.  It was probably the best PvP/PvE setup I've seen in a game.
 
2014-07-23 10:48:26 AM  
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