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(Talking Points Memo)   How Obama can still save Obamacare, by being the dictator that he is and creating a workaround of the law   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
    More: Interesting, White House, obamacare, hhs secretary, United States courts of appeals  
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902 clicks; posted to Politics » on 23 Jul 2014 at 12:26 PM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-07-23 10:08:20 AM  
4 votes:
Go single-payer?
2014-07-23 12:58:11 PM  
2 votes:

GameSprocket: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ignoring laws has never been one of Odumbo's problems.  I predict great success.

Really? That is really something that you want associated with your Fark handle? I know you can just create a new one, but sheesh. That is some piss-poor name calling.


Well it's an improvement. I remember he left the politics tab for a while after someone pointed that googling his nickname for Obama brought up pretty much only stormfront and other racists forums.
2014-07-23 12:28:43 PM  
2 votes:
Ignoring laws has never been one of Odumbo's problems.  I predict great success.
2014-07-23 10:57:09 AM  
2 votes:
Or he could just wait for the full circuit court which is dominated by Democrats to rule in his favor, knowing that even John Roberts won't rule to kick 6.5 million people off of insurance.
2014-07-23 10:14:09 AM  
2 votes:
But with HealthCare.gov now built, states could latch onto it as their technical platform and avoid having many of their citizens pay higher premiums because they don't have a state-based exchange.

Bloody Red State leeches.
2014-07-23 10:05:20 AM  
2 votes:
Umm, making changes in compliance to court rulings isn't "creating a workaround of the law" it's "complying with the law."
2014-07-23 05:57:13 PM  
1 vote:
Republicans continue their ceaseless attack against the United States.
2014-07-23 02:15:30 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: Corvus: DeaH: Go single-payer?

Right the Republican congress is going to pass that!

If they did, they might save their party.


Your high. They are going to win lots of elections in congress this off year. Sure they have problems electing a president but the idea that the GOP is about to collapse is not true.

I would love that t be true but your kidding yourself to think it is.
2014-07-23 01:15:36 PM  
1 vote:

clkeagle: sugardave: meat0918: FTFA:
"States could continue using HealthCare.gov but pass a bill or otherwise indicate that the website functions as their state-based insurance exchange. Creating a website from scratch had been one of the biggest impediments to states creating their own exchanges. :"
Um, why the fark would they need to pass a bill.  They ARE USING IT AS THEIR STATE-BASED EXCHANGE!
And why would the fark-up states pass that law?  They're the ones that want the system to fail.

No kidding. TFA suggests that the very same governors who stamped their feet and said "NO!" to creating a state exchange will now be willing to cooperate with the administration on the federal exchange?

meat0918: FTFA:

"States could continue using HealthCare.gov but pass a bill or otherwise indicate that the website functions as their state-based insurance exchange. Creating a website from scratch had been one of the biggest impediments to states creating their own exchanges. :"

Um, why the fark would they need to pass a bill.  They ARE USING IT AS THEIR STATE-BASED EXCHANGE!

As I said in the other thread... that's exactly how the appeal ruling should come down. The federal exchange is the actor for non-exchange states, and any benefit that applies to customers of state exchanges in compliant states also apply to customers of federal exchanges in non-compliant states.


Right - you can build your own or use somebody else's, in this case the FED's.  Is the Fed Exchange the exact same for any state, I mean are the same offers from the same providers available to both Arkansas and Kansas residents?  Or are the offers specific to the State in question from providers allowed to do business in those states?  If they're specific to the state, those are State Exchanges, regardless of who built the exchange or paid for it.
2014-07-23 01:00:37 PM  
1 vote:

GameSprocket: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ignoring laws has never been one of Odumbo's problems.  I predict great success.

Really? That is really something that you want associated with your Fark handle? I know you can just create a new one, but sheesh. That is some piss-poor name calling.


He's done much, much worse with that handle. A shiatty name-calling is nothing.
2014-07-23 12:51:24 PM  
1 vote:

LeoffDaGrate: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ignoring laws has never been one of Odumbo's problems.  I predict great success.

Who's Odumbo?


i.ebayimg.com

Maybe?
2014-07-23 12:50:35 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: Corvus: DeaH: Go single-payer?

Right the Republican congress is going to pass that!

If they did, they might save their party.


They delight in denying health insurance to their constituents. They brag about it. I certainly don't expect their sociopathic behavior to change.
2014-07-23 12:34:51 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: Corvus: DeaH: Go single-payer?

Right the Republican congress is going to pass that!

If they did, they might save their party.


Retreat?  In their moment of triumph?


HAHAHAHAHA!  That strategy would involve thoughtful introspection and a modicum of human decency.
2014-07-23 12:33:40 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: FTFA:

"States could continue using HealthCare.gov but pass a bill or otherwise indicate that the website functions as their state-based insurance exchange. Creating a website from scratch had been one of the biggest impediments to states creating their own exchanges. :"

Um, why the fark would they need to pass a bill.  They ARE USING IT AS THEIR STATE-BASED EXCHANGE!


And why would the fark-up states pass that law?  They're the ones that want the system to fail.
2014-07-23 12:32:15 PM  
1 vote:

Corvus: DeaH: Go single-payer?

Right the Republican congress is going to pass that!


If they did, they might save their party.
2014-07-23 12:30:43 PM  
1 vote:
Every other judge that has looked at this ruling has ruled it as not a problem.

I think the full DC bench is going to overrule.
2014-07-23 12:30:10 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA:

"States could continue using HealthCare.gov but pass a bill or otherwise indicate that the website functions as their state-based insurance exchange. Creating a website from scratch had been one of the biggest impediments to states creating their own exchanges. :"

Um, why the fark would they need to pass a bill.  They ARE USING IT AS THEIR STATE-BASED EXCHANGE!
2014-07-23 12:29:46 PM  
1 vote:

DeaH: Go single-payer?


Right the Republican congress is going to pass that!
 
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