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(Gallup)   Gallup poll says that 22% of Americans feel the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone. If there were only some way that people could do something to replace members of Congress every two years or so   (gallup.com) divider line 147
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2014-07-23 09:23:10 AM  
I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."
 
2014-07-23 09:31:52 AM  

Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."


"Our Congressman gets us help to build necessary projects for my district.  Those other Congressmen load bills up with pork."
 
2014-07-23 09:37:54 AM  

jake_lex: Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."

"Our Congressman gets us help to build necessary projects for my district.  Those other Congressmen load bills up with pork."


It's cognitive dissonance of the highest order.
 
2014-07-23 09:38:34 AM  
Every time I watch Louie Gohmert speak, I marvel at who must be voting for him.  He may be the dumbest man ever to win anything other than the lottery.
 
2014-07-23 09:38:55 AM  
I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans can even name their Congressperson.

Here in Harrisburg -- a company town with only one company, politics -- I still occasionally hear people refer to Congressman Gekas who lost in 2003. Stupid people, to be fair, but their vote counts the same as yours or mine, if they actually voted.
 
2014-07-23 09:42:11 AM  
I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see that number so low, since this is a genuinely terrible and infantile solution.
 
2014-07-23 09:47:10 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans can even name their Congressperson.


Randy Naugebauer. Sharp as a sack of wet mice and will easily win his 8th term.

If term limits are good enough for the Executive, they're good enough for the Legislative.
 
2014-07-23 09:48:06 AM  

DamnYankees: I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see that number so low, since this is a genuinely terrible and infantile solution.


what, you would rather not ignore the systemic problems with incentivization and motivation in politics or the willful ignorance of the general population? god, next you'll be saying that pointless sound bites about congressional term limits might not fix everything wrong in the world
 
2014-07-23 09:48:09 AM  
Problem is, the GOP has been saying that for the past 6 years and look at the caliber of people they're bringing in.
 
2014-07-23 10:07:11 AM  
Fire Congress? Into space? Fun thought but hardly practical.

Best way to fix Congress is to fix the system that makes the voices of the lobbyists for the multinationals not only the most important voices to be obeyed in DC but effectively the only ones.

Public financing of elections would be a good start.
 
2014-07-23 10:10:21 AM  

quatchi: Public financing of elections would be a good start.


It's really the lynchpin to any effective reform of the system.
 
2014-07-23 10:16:51 AM  
I hate my representative. I am in a district where my vote simply does not matter. He will be re-elected.  l attended a town hall meeting where a lot of people were upset about the government shutdown. If affected not only the base, but many businesses that supported the base. My rep voted for the shut down and voted against ending the shutdown, and damned near every single person at the town hall believed him when he said the shut down was caused by Obama.
 
2014-07-23 10:24:59 AM  

DeaH: I hate my representative. I am in a district where my vote simply does not matter. He will be re-elected.  l attended a town hall meeting where a lot of people were upset about the government shutdown. If affected not only the base, but many businesses that supported the base. My rep voted for the shut down and voted against ending the shutdown, and damned near every single person at the town hall believed him when he said the shut down was caused by Obama.


Do I want to know where your district is?

Any chance he's on the Flip a District final 4?
 
2014-07-23 10:25:32 AM  
It's been a longstanding theory of mine that roughly 1 in 5 people will respond in the affirmative to pretty much any poll question asked.

It explains how 26% of people believe the Sun goes around the Earth or how 18% of people say they've seen a ghost.
 
2014-07-23 10:25:37 AM  

Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."


Done in one.

And Gallup sucks.
 
2014-07-23 10:26:15 AM  
I keep hearing this, but all I read about is Nancy PEElosi.
 
2014-07-23 10:27:47 AM  

enry: Problem is, the GOP has been saying that for the past 6 years and look at the caliber of people they're bringing in.


THIS!

I'm actually surprised that the "throw the bums out" approach is only favored by 22%. It's long been a popular choice. It's also lazy and asinine.
 
2014-07-23 10:28:00 AM  
We need like 150 of these:

static.squarespace.com
 
2014-07-23 10:29:50 AM  
Even if every congressperson were launched into outer space, the replacements voted in by the rubetacular American public would just be the same provincial, parochial hayseeds trying to turn the country into an evangelical theocracy, just like we have now. The problem is the voting public being stupid and therefore incapable of governing themselves.

/Another cynical day for menschy
 
2014-07-23 10:32:36 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans can even name their Congressperson.

Here in Harrisburg -- a company town with only one company, politics -- I still occasionally hear people refer to Congressman Gekas who lost in 2003. Stupid people, to be fair, but their vote counts the same as yours or mine, if they actually voted.


I can:

it's ""
 
2014-07-23 10:33:57 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I keep hearing this, but all I read about is Nancy PEElosi.


The only time I ever hear that name is in the context of this shambling, Communist monstrosity known as Pelosiandreid.
 
2014-07-23 10:34:55 AM  
Since the district I live in has had no Democratic challenger for 3 election cycles, what the hell can I do.  The Republicans in the Ga 11th district have run unopposed for a while now.
 
2014-07-23 10:35:21 AM  

Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."


Oh mine's terrible and I try to get rid of him every chance I get.
 
2014-07-23 10:35:56 AM  
People that think voting out a few hundred people will totally work, when the people are just spokesmen and women for an ideology...

www.thetimes.co.uk

...are the kind of people that would suggest we stop pedophile puppeteers by getting rid of his puppets.

You know when people say things they think is smart, but is actually moronic? Stuff like "I couldn't even program a VCR when they were popular" or "oh, I don't read" or "why should I pay taxes?"...? This is one of those times.

If you've ever truly felt that you're one of these 22%; if you honestly can say the conclusion you've come to is that getting rid of the incumbents is the best way to fix whatever you think is the problem; you either haven't thought much about the issue, or you should just stop thinking because this "we have a leaky pipe, best we rip out the entire plumbing system" strategy isn't helping.
 
2014-07-23 10:36:15 AM  
I want to meet this mythical 20% of people who are wrong about damn near everything. Every single poll, it's like one-fifth of people are complete, willful twats.
 
2014-07-23 10:37:05 AM  

menschenfresser: Even if every congressperson were launched into outer space, the replacements voted in by the rubetacular American public would just be the same provincial, parochial hayseeds trying to turn the country into an evangelical theocracy, just like we have now. The problem is the voting public being stupid and therefore incapable of governing themselves.

/Another cynical day for menschy


Nope, not cynical. Realistic. I just said the same thing.
 
2014-07-23 10:37:11 AM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: it's like one-fifth of people are complete, willful twats.


You know...voters.
 
2014-07-23 10:38:37 AM  
My rep is Andy "Where's My Health Insurance" Harris; foisted upon the good citizens of the Eastern Shore by the State of Maryland to gerrymander the Republican vote in eastern Baltimore County and Harford County into one district. The unfortunate result is that those two areas have the population to swing the district and we kepp getting morons like this gas bag , er, gas passer, as our elected official in Washington. What really needs to be done is to have sensible districts and more voter participation.
 
2014-07-23 10:39:22 AM  

jake_lex: Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."

"Our Congressman gets us help to build necessary projects for my district.  Those other Congressmen load bills up with pork."


I'm sad because my representative is Elijah E. Commings. I have nothing to complain about :(
 
2014-07-23 10:40:07 AM  
yeah fire this fiscal conservative who funnels money to the very wealthy and hire that fiscal conservative who funnels money to the very wealthy.
 
2014-07-23 10:40:09 AM  
Since the younger members of the far left are committed to "both sides are bad so sit on your ass while everybody else votes Republican," we're pretty well stuck with this bullshiat.
 
2014-07-23 10:40:13 AM  

Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."


Proposal: Included with every regular Congressional ballot is a "kick out a bastard" line, where you get to vote on ONE member's removal, from any district but your own (obviously). If enough people (to borrow from the Constitution, let's say 2/3 of either votes cast or eligible voters*) vote to kick out the same member, they're gone and a special election is held ASAP (so no appointments would be allowed - there are probably separation of powers issues there as well. I'm willing to let go of that one, though).

There's no way in hell this ever happens, but when Louie Gohmert is disliked by more people than he represents, I'd say there is a structural problem in need of fixing.

* the latter would be damn near impossible, as this kind of thing should be
 
2014-07-23 10:40:14 AM  

rev. dave: Since the district I live in has had no Democratic challenger for 3 election cycles, what the hell can I do.  The Republicans in the Ga 11th district have run unopposed for a while now.


Dig into politics and run a campaign. As an unknown, it's likely that you'll have less dirt to dig up.

----

This is a novel idea, sure, but there are some good members of Congress. There's also Captain Orange and Rafael Cruz. The people who want to "get rid of everyone" so to speak don't recognize who the poison is or where it's coming from. Get out and vote in 2016, let's flip this whole country around.

/don't read too far into my "gut Congress" comment in another thread, it's tongue in cheek with a single payer reference and I did it on purpose
 
2014-07-23 10:40:15 AM  
I actually really like my Congressman.  But I live in Lakeview in Chicago (home to Wrigley Field), so it's not like I'm going to get stuck with a Tea Partier any time soon.
 
2014-07-23 10:41:40 AM  
Increase the membership of the House to 8000.

Smaller districts would be more homogeneous and difficult to gerrymander, so each member will be more responsive to his/her voters. And the Kock brothers will have to spend 200 times as much money trying to buy elections.
 
2014-07-23 10:42:18 AM  

jake_lex: Trivia Jockey: I strongly suspect most people who answer surveys that way are really thinking "the best way to fix Congress is to fire everyone else's Congressman.  Ours is fine."

"Our Congressman gets us help to build necessary projects for my district.  Those other Congressmen load bills up with pork."


Studies back this up.
 
2014-07-23 10:42:51 AM  
If only there was a way to vote NO!

/But there isn't so move along citizen
 
2014-07-23 10:43:00 AM  

Trivia Jockey: Every time I watch Louie Gohmert speak, I marvel at who must be voting for him.  He may be the dumbest man ever to win anything other than the lottery.


If you look at where his district is, it kind of makes sense, but he is basically just the schizophrenic man from the street corner in a suit.
 
2014-07-23 10:43:12 AM  

Anonymous Bosch: Since the younger members of the far left are committed to "both sides are bad so sit on your ass while everybody else votes Republican," we're pretty well stuck with this bullshiat.


BSABSSOYAWEEVR may take awhile to catch on.....
 
2014-07-23 10:45:17 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans can even name their Congressperson.

Here in Harrisburg -- a company town with only one company, politics -- I still occasionally hear people refer to Congressman Gekas who lost in 2003. Stupid people, to be fair, but their vote counts the same as yours or mine, if they actually voted.


Thankfully, I live in this part of the state. 

Ah, George "Missing In Action" Gekas. Maybe the hayseeds just think he popped out for a pack of smokes and he'll be back any minute...
 
2014-07-23 10:47:01 AM  
my former congressman voted against the Iraq War and the PATRIOT Act.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:06 AM  
Of course, if only 22% of Americans in a given district decide to fire their representative, not much will actually change.

Because Math®  can only do so much.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:26 AM  
The best way to fix Congress is to participate in local elections. Find a candidate you support, do work for that person, get her or him elected.

I know, it actually requires work. The other option is to be all snarky about it online or to just simply complain about it to your friends.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:35 AM  
Meh, I am pretty happy with Franken. He doesn't always get it right, but he does pretty well.
 
2014-07-23 10:48:24 AM  

icam: Trivia Jockey: Every time I watch Louie Gohmert speak, I marvel at who must be voting for him.  He may be the dumbest man ever to win anything other than the lottery.

If you look at where his district is, it kind of makes sense, but he is basically just the schizophrenic man from the street corner in a suit.


Watching him give a speech on the floor is quite a show.  I'm not kidding, it looks like he never graduated from high school, was the cashier at a Jiffy Lube when someone put him in a suit and told him to talk to all these nice people about Obama.
 
2014-07-23 10:48:41 AM  

Anonymous Bosch: Since the younger members of the far left are committed to "both sides are bad so sit on your ass while everybody else votes Republican," we're pretty well stuck with this bullshiat.


So by far left you mean Reagan adherents, there is no left in the US only Nazi's and open Nazi's

/Right I forgot that they where all socialists!
 
2014-07-23 10:49:02 AM  

GameSprocket: Meh, I am pretty happy with Franken. He doesn't always get it right, but he does pretty well.


What about your Representative?
 
2014-07-23 10:50:07 AM  

Lex A. Preau: Of course, if only 22% of Americans in a given district decide to fire their representative, not much will actually change.

Because Math®  can only do so much.


Often voter turnout is only 22%.  So it depends on which 22% is showing up at the polls.
 
2014-07-23 10:52:41 AM  

albatros183: Anonymous Bosch: Since the younger members of the far left are committed to "both sides are bad so sit on your ass while everybody else votes Republican," we're pretty well stuck with this bullshiat.

So by far left you mean Reagan adherents, there is no left in the US only Nazi's and open Nazi's

/Right I forgot that they where all socialists!


Digging up old derpy alts I see, fascinating. Nice of you to admit you're a Nazi though, makes it easier for the rest of us to ignore you.
 
2014-07-23 10:52:45 AM  
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