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(Stanford University)   Researchers discover that the voices you hear while hallucinating are dependent on your culture. Farkers hear slurred voices wondering where the bottle opener went   (news.stanford.edu ) divider line
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2014-07-23 08:44:44 AM  
I hear Morse when I hallucinate.
 
2014-07-23 09:22:48 AM  
I keep telling the voices I hate Ovaltine and I ain't gonna drink that shiat.
 
2014-07-23 09:30:15 AM  

gopher321: I keep telling the voices I hate Ovaltine and I ain't gonna drink that shiat.


I want to know who put the benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine.
 
2014-07-23 10:47:13 AM  
THANKS ObamaCare
 
2014-07-23 10:50:07 AM  
I don't recall ever having auditory hallucinations.  Visual, yes.  Auditory, no.
 
2014-07-23 10:50:22 AM  
The amount of grant money you get for silly research also depends on culture.
 
2014-07-23 10:52:21 AM  
Ahh, they're talking about schizophrenia, not drugs...

nevermind...

/slashies
//in my stashies
 
2014-07-23 10:52:30 AM  

pkrzycki: I don't recall ever having auditory hallucinations.  Visual, yes.  Auditory, no.


You're not taking enough then.
 
2014-07-23 10:53:15 AM  
I always hear the "chi, chi chi - ha ha ha" from the Friday the 13th movies. Freaks me out man!
 
2014-07-23 10:54:49 AM  

dittybopper: I hear Morse when I hallucinate.


www.dimarzio.com

Cool!
 
2014-07-23 10:55:38 AM  

dittybopper: gopher321: I keep telling the voices I hate Ovaltine and I ain't gonna drink that shiat.

I want to know who put the benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine.


GAH!  I havent thought of that song for 40 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2WJqnK3gAY
 
2014-07-23 10:55:47 AM  
My auditory hallucinations are musical... usually along the lines of "Friendly Little Finger" from Zappa's Zoot Allures
 
2014-07-23 10:58:07 AM  
...outside the West, people imagine the mind and self interwoven with others and defined through relationships.

Is this true, or is it one of those "magical non-white people" things?
 
2014-07-23 10:58:37 AM  
Are the voices in schizo hipsters onw brains sarcastic
about things the hipsters themselves have not yet heard of?
 
2014-07-23 11:02:46 AM  
That explains why it sounds like the adults from Peanuts.
 
2014-07-23 11:04:35 AM  
You're just jealous the voices don't talk to you
 
2014-07-23 11:07:12 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Are the voices in schizo hipsters onw brains sarcastic
about things the hipsters themselves have not yet heard of?


Wow, this is like when I wondered if people who have been bound since birth imagine colors that don't exist. Brain=sploded.
 
2014-07-23 11:08:05 AM  

Skarekrough: dittybopper: I hear Morse when I hallucinate.


Cool!


tikiloungetalk.com

What a successful Morse looks like
 
2014-07-23 11:10:14 AM  
whatthefluffy.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-23 11:11:48 AM  
I hear the voices from old radio programs -- The Great Gildersleeve, The Bickersons, The Jack Benny Show. W.C Fields and Edgar Bergen, Burns and Allen.

Only the best.
 
2014-07-23 11:12:42 AM  
They needed a study for this?

It's like saying, "Studies show that the first language most people learn is the one they hear at home."


dpoisn.com
 
2014-07-23 11:13:23 AM  
Whoops, bound=blind.
 
2014-07-23 11:13:41 AM  

HailRobonia: ...outside the West, people imagine the mind and self interwoven with others and defined through relationships.

Is this true, or is it one of those "magical non-white people" things?


I've seen studies that report this difference as well. I think one was a morality study or something. Non-Western cultures have different statistics with regards to how many people choose one option over the other. IIRC, one example was a study where two people in different rooms had to agree how to split a sum of money such that one was the primary recipient but could only receive any of it if another person agreed to it and they could divide the sum between them. Westerners are more likely to agree to a 50/50 split, but SE Asians were more likely to agree to an imbalanced split where the the primary recipient received more that the recipient who must agree. The study cited a cultural phenomenon where SE Asians perceive monetary gifts as having "strings attached" and are subconsciously leery of owing a favor to the primary recipient.

I don't know how much of that is true. But it has been observed before.
 
2014-07-23 11:14:42 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-23 11:16:52 AM  
I guess next they're going to tell me the voices in my dreams are only an amalgamation of any/all voices I've heard.
 
2014-07-23 11:20:27 AM  
covermyfb.com
 
2014-07-23 11:26:19 AM  
I hear subby's mom begging for more
 
2014-07-23 11:29:32 AM  

KidKorporate


MurphyMurphy: Are the voices in schizo hipsters onw brains sarcastic
about things the hipsters themselves have not yet heard of?

Wow, this is like when I wondered if people who have been bound since birth imagine colors that don't exist. Brain=sploded.


There are no "colors that don't exist". We know what the visible light spectrum is and where its upper and lower bounds are, so we know what all the colors are.

Feel free to reassemble your brain.
 
2014-07-23 11:31:19 AM  
Never heard voices when I hallucinated, except for my own thought processes, and I ate a LOT of acid.
 
2014-07-23 11:34:31 AM  

August11: The amount of grant money you get for silly research also depends on culture.


Studying the way the human brain works and empirically separating myth from neurological trick is "silly"?
 
2014-07-23 11:49:49 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: There are no "colors that don't exist".


What about bigfoot-colored? Bigfoot does not exist, ergo the color of bigfoot does not exist.
 
2014-07-23 12:01:19 PM  

fruitloop: That explains why it sounds like the adults from Peanuts.


I used to have that happen all of the time, glad it isn't just me. I am no longer married so it's been a while though.
 
2014-07-23 12:03:51 PM  
www.louisianime.com

/I wouldn't mind the voices in my head, but they only speak Spanish.
//They keep chanting: "El demoníaco / portador de la muerte / La profecía se ha hecho realidad"
///I think it has something to do with Bagels, but I don't speak Spanish...
 
2014-07-23 12:05:17 PM  
I only have one voice in my head. Morgan Freeman's. It's smooth and relaxing. It calms my rage and takes me on magical thought journeys.

theurbansniper.com
 
2014-07-23 01:04:09 PM  
I only hear one voice over and over again...

"I'm a kitty cat and I dance dance dance..."
"...and dance dance dance..."


Don't click this. Don't do it. For the love of God, don't do it...

...or, embrace the madness... It's been waiting for you.
 
2014-07-23 01:25:50 PM  

Skarekrough: dittybopper: I hear Morse when I hallucinate.

[www.dimarzio.com image 400x400]

Cool!


Not that one.

This one:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-23 01:38:25 PM  
My voices are like the psithurism of a thousand winds through all the forests on earth.
 
2014-07-23 01:40:22 PM  

August11: The amount of grant money you get for silly research also depends on culture.


Ah yes, public myopia: the bane of Basic Research everywhere.
 
2014-07-23 01:42:10 PM  
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2014-07-23 01:43:51 PM  
Canadians who hallucinate hear angelic voices saying: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry .... Even the demons voices apologize constantly because they know it annoys.

One French Canadian priest heard constant voices saying: mea maxima culpa, even outside of the confessional. He left the clergy in the end and married, naming his daughter Maya Maxima Culpa. Her friends call her "Max".
 
2014-07-23 01:58:27 PM  

brimed03: August11: The amount of grant money you get for silly research also depends on culture.

Ah yes, public myopia: the bane of Basic Research everywhere.


No you are right. It was a shallow, bitter moment on my part.

/researcher
 
2014-07-23 02:00:47 PM  

HailRobonia: ...outside the West, people imagine the mind and self interwoven with others and defined through relationships.

Is this true, or is it one of those "magical non-white people" things?


... why *wouldn't* it be? You don't really think that everyone, everywhere is born with the same cultural/social perspective, rather than learning it from the culture they live in?

It's not magic dude. A lot of the same geographical barriers that permitted minor physical differentiation between races also permitted cultural differentiation. Including ideas on how we view ourselves in relation to others. In the West, which happens to be primarily Caucasian, we developed strong social and political ideas about individuality. We tend to think of ourselves as self-defined. Other cultures view the individual as defined by his/her relationships to others.

It's what the (white) poet Donne John was talking about in his lines about "no man is an island." In the West this idea was (and remains to this day) revelatory. In other cultures the reaction would be more like "duh."
 
2014-07-23 02:04:37 PM  

August11: brimed03: August11: The amount of grant money you get for silly research also depends on culture.

Ah yes, public myopia: the bane of Basic Research everywhere.

No you are right. It was a shallow, bitter moment on my part.

/researcher


Enjoy your ban.

/nobody apologizes on Fark and gets away with it
// ;)
 
2014-07-23 02:10:12 PM  

brimed03: ... why *wouldn't* it be? You don't really think that everyone, everywhere is born with the same cultural/social perspective, rather than learning it from the culture they live in?


No, but it if "non-western" people all have this different concept of relationships,it amounts to "everyone else in the world is the same... it's the West that is different" rather than "different cultures are different".
 
2014-07-23 02:39:04 PM  
What ever happened to the "voice of conscience"?
 
2014-07-23 06:42:44 PM  

HailRobonia: brimed03: ... why *wouldn't* it be? You don't really think that everyone, everywhere is born with the same cultural/social perspective, rather than learning it from the culture they live in?

No, but it if "non-western" people all have this different concept of relationships,it amounts to "everyone else in the world is the same... it's the West that is different" rather than "different cultures are different".


I disagree. The article indicates that while the folks from Ghana and India are *more* similar than the Western folks, they do differ between themselves. While they may not be individual-focused like us, there appear to be differences in their more relational outlooks that lead to differences in how the voices in their heads sound.

In other words, nobody is saying the West is the sole standout from an otherwise homogenous world view. Just that Western individuality is perhaps a more differenced view than the differences between the other views.

It's an admittedly poor analogy that would fail any serious analysis (including strict accuracy), but: it's like saying that Buddhism is a different view than all the other major religions that posit some kind of single, all-powerful deity. That doesn't make Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or belief in a "Great Spirit" a monolithic worldview. It just means that they have a lot more commonalities than non-theistic Bhuddism.
 
2014-07-23 09:38:37 PM  
Englebert Slaptyback: There are no "colors that don't exist". We know what the visible light spectrum is and where its upper and lower bounds are, so we know what all the colors are.

That turns out not to be the case...
Google impossible colors.
 
2014-07-23 10:40:32 PM  

Beowoolfie: Englebert Slaptyback: There are no "colors that don't exist". We know what the visible light spectrum is and where its upper and lower bounds are, so we know what all the colors are.

That turns out not to be the case...
Google impossible colors.


I managed that back in 1969 when I mixed beer and vodka.
 
2014-07-24 01:58:05 AM  

Beowoolfie: Google impossible colors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_colors

And...?


Egalitarian: What ever happened to the "voice of conscience"?


I have dozens of them. They all think I'm irremediably and incredibly evil. A couple dozen more just tell me I'm a jerk.

I'm not kidding: there's an echoing choir in my head.


A Leaf in Fall: My voices are like the psithurism of a thousand winds through all the forests on earth.


Noun
psithurism (plural not attested)

1. (obsolete) the sound of rustling leaves.

Thanks,  sir and/or ma'am. If nothing else I've already learned a new word today.


yakmans_dad: Beowoolfie: Englebert Slaptyback:

There are no "colors that don't exist". We know what the visible light spectrum is and where its upper and lower bounds are, so we know what all the colors are.

That turns out not to be the case...
Google impossible colors.

I managed that back in 1969 when I mixed beer and vodka.


Damn man, I was six (6) years old in 1969. That was when they took my Daddy away and replaced him months later with a shuffling twitching Thorazine zombie. Which was probably your fault.

/ By the way, speaking of "titty sprinkles," would splotches do? BIP!
 
2014-07-24 02:02:46 AM  

Egalitarian: What ever happened to the "voice of conscience"?


Gag order.
 
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