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2014-07-23 01:32:05 PM
Don't kid yourself, Subby. If a tree ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!
 
2014-07-23 01:46:35 PM
FTA: Mr Higgins told 105.7 ABC Darwin morning presenter Julia Christensen that a resident had contacted the Department of Infrastructure to warn of dead branches on the road.

"The department asked their contractor to remove two dead trees... and removed five additional trees they weren't asked to remove at all," Mr Higgins said.


Seems like he's more upset about the unauthorized removal of 5 additional trees than anything else.

And for the record, submitter, pruning and completely removing a tree are entirely different things. A pruned tree will continue to grow, whereas a removed tree will not.
 
2014-07-23 02:58:30 PM

gopher321: Don't kid yourself, Subby. If a tree ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!


skulldugfilms.com
 
2014-07-23 02:58:55 PM
What? Liberals in Australia just as knee-jerk, over the top as in the US? The deuce you say!

/not that our conservatives aren't just as bad...
 
2014-07-23 03:02:27 PM
Day of the triffids.Jpg
 
2014-07-23 03:03:38 PM
They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.
 
2014-07-23 03:04:15 PM
We had a tree in our front yard that had a limb that obscured a stop sign from a certain distance away. Someone called the city to come out and look at it, and they did, and it was within the law. This happened at least twice.

We had a guy knock on our door and start screaming about how we didn't care if children died because of this branch and what would happen if someone ran that stop sign and t-boned a school bus and he would sue us and blah blah blah.

We went ahead and had the tree pruned anyway but lord some people are drama queens.
 
2014-07-23 03:06:00 PM

walktoanarcade: They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.


We now know James Cameron's handle.
 
2014-07-23 03:07:49 PM
I know I'm going to lose some street cred here...

But, I, kind of, see their point:

www.thewareaglereader.com
 
2014-07-23 03:08:22 PM
We just spent 5k to take down a poplar next to our house. It was a beautiful tree but it was always trying to kill us.
 
2014-07-23 03:09:26 PM

walktoanarcade: bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease


Bats also carry disease. Really nasty one, but please, continue.
 
2014-07-23 03:10:26 PM
1. It's some farking trees! It's not like they live in the forest of Fangorn.

2. They needed to be trimmed back. Those dirty hippies would be pissed off if those nice trees had damaged their (the dirty hippies') cars.

3. The thing about trees is; you can make more.
 
2014-07-23 03:11:48 PM

Russ1642: walktoanarcade: They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.

We now know James Cameron's handle.


Heh, I mean it too. Sorry I got lost in thought partway through. I could have said I did it intentionally, but I should have said: "Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease" is more important than getting rid of a tree so you can have a nicer view, which you will most certainly not appreciate for long and if you do, you're stupid anyway for not moving your selfish ass but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes. "

OK, it HAS to be ironic that I find Avatar extremely boring.
 
2014-07-23 03:14:42 PM

Kristoph57: walktoanarcade: bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease

Bats also carry disease. Really nasty one, but please, continue.


They also eat insects with yet worse diseases. And nothing carries rabies (which I know you did not mention, but..) in the sense, unless they're about to die of it, as with raccoons, dogs, cats;etc.

Bats aren't the demons Hollywood has made them out to be.
 
2014-07-23 03:18:58 PM

walktoanarcade: They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.


I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.
 
2014-07-23 03:21:11 PM
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2014-07-23 03:25:04 PM

tothekor: I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.


They're too noisy and should be used for other purposes, like inflating above ground pools and such.

Brooms do a much better job and leaf blowers stir up lots of particulate matter that gets into everyone's lungs and eyes, worsening allergies to boot. Also, they make the workers using them flabby, whiles a broom works their body.

We've become a society that user leaf blowers and because of them a lot of us need to work out in a gym.  If they stuck to brooms, they get a work out all day and stay in better health, but laziness.

Also, plants, animals and people like me are sensitive to sound.

For reasons of meditation, relaxation and bodily repair, silence, or closer to it is prefered. Heck, regular leaf-blowing is absolutely giving them higher blooder pressure. LINK: http://www.steadyhealth.com/how_noise_increases_heart_rate_causing_hi g h_blood_pressure_t65508.html

And that's old news.

Not to mention to idiots that use them in the rain, or in high wind. :|
 
2014-07-23 03:27:20 PM
mojoimage.com
 
2014-07-23 03:28:08 PM
Trees, like all flora and fauna, have a lifespan.

Seedling - Sprout - Adult - Reproducer - Diseased - Aging - Withering - Falling - Decay or Fire matter

There are more trees on the North American Continent today than when Columbus arrived.  Land Management has gone to seed.  Tree management has been replaced by some weird worshipping cult.

/kill it with fire and start over

//stories about killing trees always reminds me of this mournful tale:

images.barnesandnoble.com
 
2014-07-23 03:28:56 PM

walktoanarcade: They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.



I'm with you with everything except for that part.
Leaf blowers are actually quite useful.  And not only to make the neighborhood pretty.  All those dead leaves pile up and choke out everything.  Making a good cleanup of things is actually good for the environment.
Now, I know you could use a rake.  But the blower is much more efficient, and does less damage to other things on the ground.
 
2014-07-23 03:29:50 PM
Sorry for the typos, I try to be as fast in my responses as possible, is why.
 
2014-07-23 03:30:29 PM

gopher321: Don't kid yourself, Subby. If a tree ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!


Indeed!
 
2014-07-23 03:31:15 PM

Fista-Phobia: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 300x300]


VAGINA TREE!!

Marion, WI has a vagina tree coming north on 110. The different branches even suggest labia, and they're so tall now that there a hole in the foliage for the cables to run through, rather than just a U like this one.

Anyone know how to identify what would cause apple trees to lose a significant limb, and/or how ot repair them?
Worried that I might lose a theoretical Honey Crisp.
 
2014-07-23 03:32:17 PM
Forget the prunings. It's the applings you should be afraid of.
stream1.gifsoup.com
 
2014-07-23 03:32:49 PM
These people are worse than HItler.
 
2014-07-23 03:33:03 PM
Time for some poetry.

Trees

I THINK that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,         5
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.  10

Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
 
2014-07-23 03:35:03 PM
MooseBayou:
Bats also carry disease. Really nasty one, but please, continue.

Bats: The Big Bug Scourge of the Skies.

Dusk! With a creepy tingling sensation, you can hear the fluttering of leathery wings! BATS! With glowing red eyes and glistening fangs, these unspeakable giant bugs drop onto..
 
2014-07-23 03:35:21 PM

walktoanarcade: tothekor: I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.

They're too noisy and should be used for other purposes, like inflating above ground pools and such.

Brooms do a much better job and leaf blowers stir up lots of particulate matter that gets into everyone's lungs and eyes, worsening allergies to boot. Also, they make the workers using them flabby, whiles a broom works their body.

We've become a society that user leaf blowers and because of them a lot of us need to work out in a gym.  If they stuck to brooms, they get a work out all day and stay in better health, but laziness.

Also, plants, animals and people like me are sensitive to sound.

For reasons of meditation, relaxation and bodily repair, silence, or closer to it is prefered. Heck, regular leaf-blowing is absolutely giving them higher blooder pressure. LINK: http://www.steadyhealth.com/how_noise_increases_heart_rate_causing_hi g h_blood_pressure_t65508.html

And that's old news.

Not to mention to idiots that use them in the rain, or in high wind. :|


Really? Or is it lack of time?

I know we could all make time, but with that, and cooking all those vegan meals that I've grown from my garden from seed, and canning what's left over for winter, sort of hard to just toss in a couple of hours for bicycle-mowing and raking in there.
I mean sure if you have kids that are old enough for chores- great, but what about those toddlers? Gonna have them picking up leaves by hand?
 
2014-07-23 03:35:52 PM

durbnpoisn: walktoanarcade: They did overprune, but I wouldn't call it murderous.

Btw, I loathe people that cut down healthy trees just to get a view..How about YOU move?  Maybe oxygen, prevention of soil erosion, a place for birds and bats to live, which eat insects, which carry disease, but no, you'd rather chop it down then wonder later on why you're being eaten alive by mosquitoes.

Every plant, fish, tree, insect, and animal on this planet are connected, get that through your heads, lovers of leaf blowers and insecticides and reckless chainsaws.


I'm with you with everything except for that part.
Leaf blowers are actually quite useful.  And not only to make the neighborhood pretty.  All those dead leaves pile up and choke out everything.  Making a good cleanup of things is actually good for the environment.
Now, I know you could use a rake.  But the blower is much more efficient, and does less damage to other things on the ground.


I agree to a point, but actually, leaving some leaves to rot here and there is good for the environment.

Raking is good for the body.  Although, I would agree that on certain surfaces, a leaf blower is preferred and I do understand that, believe me, I have done tons of hard labor in the distant past and recent past (like a few days ago) I have been there..scratching pavement or other flooring with a rake because I had to, well...work sucks sometimes.

I think leaf blowers are abused and misused. I probably should have added that in the first place. *nervously stirs shoe in dirt*
 
2014-07-23 03:36:57 PM

HailRobonia: MooseBayou:
Bats also carry disease. Really nasty one, but please, continue.

Bats: The Big Bug Scourge of the Skies.

Dusk! With a creepy tingling sensation, you can hear the fluttering of leathery wings! BATS! With glowing red eyes and glistening fangs, these unspeakable giant bugs drop onto..


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad= rj a&uact=8&ved=0CC0QtwIwBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv% 3DYXLh1sLXmi0&ei=sQ7QU7WMAoOnyASh7YLQCg&usg=AFQjCNEkUngHoZ4RIS1LgWjnYO QDTlbQsw&bvm=bv.71667212,d.aWw
 
2014-07-23 03:39:14 PM
At my previous residence the city had to remove 5 huge trees, which was a shame because they were lovely. But they were also dead and when you saw the sections you could see that they were rotted out to the very core. They had already dropped quite a few branches during an ice storm, which is what caught the city's attention and they sent someone about to check on the them (still live, or dead tree).

Still didn't stop a bunch of treehuggers protesting, though. I got pissed off enough about their ignorance that I asked them if they wanted someone injured or killed because a huge branch from a dead tree fell on their head as they were walking down the sidewalk next to the trees. And, of course, the city would be held liable if that happened.
 
2014-07-23 03:39:30 PM

tlars699: walktoanarcade: tothekor: I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.

They're too noisy and should be used for other purposes, like inflating above ground pools and such.

Brooms do a much better job and leaf blowers stir up lots of particulate matter that gets into everyone's lungs and eyes, worsening allergies to boot. Also, they make the workers using them flabby, whiles a broom works their body.

We've become a society that user leaf blowers and because of them a lot of us need to work out in a gym.  If they stuck to brooms, they get a work out all day and stay in better health, but laziness.

Also, plants, animals and people like me are sensitive to sound.

For reasons of meditation, relaxation and bodily repair, silence, or closer to it is prefered. Heck, regular leaf-blowing is absolutely giving them higher blooder pressure. LINK: http://www.steadyhealth.com/how_noise_increases_heart_rate_causing_hi g h_blood_pressure_t65508.html

And that's old news.

Not to mention to idiots that use them in the rain, or in high wind. :|

Really? Or is it lack of time?

I know we could all make time, but with that, and cooking all those vegan meals that I've grown from my garden from seed, and canning what's left over for winter, sort of hard to just toss in a couple of hours for bicycle-mowing and raking in there.
I mean sure if you have kids that are old enough for chores- great, but what about those toddlers? Gonna have them picking up leaves by hand?


Fair enough, but do you ever work out or feel the need to exercise to stay in shape?

You made your point, though, perfectly, in fact. It's not like people don't already have enough to do. I'm just railing against the abusers of it. I mean, you don't leaf blow in a driving rain like some people do, do you? That's wasted energy and annoying.
 
2014-07-23 03:39:49 PM
The worldwide "fear and safety," crowd never misses the chance to get the goverment involved to further erode our freedoms.   "the sky is falling, the sky is falling,"  all hail the "Mommyocracy!"
 
2014-07-23 03:39:50 PM
Have you ever seen a contractor working for the city/state or business go out of there way to do a nice looking job?  I swear there must be some kind of competition to do the shiattiest looking job possible -

They had to clear back saplings (up to about the size of your wrist) along a stretch of freeway... rather than a couple guys with chain saws and a shredder they used this giant weedwacker on a backhoe and basically flailed the trees apart about 10 feet off the ground... and left the debris.  So we got 10' high shredded trunks and piles of crap everywhere.... nice job boys.
 
2014-07-23 03:41:24 PM

tothekor:
I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.

Fark leaf blowers. They're noisy farking things beloved of douchey suburbanites who want to blow their leaves into someone else's yard instead of cleaning them up.

/ I don't see the connection they'd have to wildlife either...

August11: We just spent 5k to take down a poplar next to our house. It was a beautiful tree but it was always trying to kill us.


5k to remove a tree? WTF? I don't care how big that poplar was. I don't see how it costs 5k to get rid of it. A zillion or so ash trees have been removed around here in recent years and from I heard the most expensive run a bit over $1k to remove. A quick google search backs that up. It's about $10/foot for a 90 foot tree...
 
2014-07-23 03:41:42 PM
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          .........and aliens.
 
2014-07-23 03:43:14 PM
Is it possible to murder a tree?
 
2014-07-23 03:43:54 PM

Fista-Phobia: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 300x300]


It's good!!
 
2014-07-23 03:50:55 PM

trappedspirit: Is it possible to murder a tree?


I say yes. If it's healthy and you've got no legal right to "take it", it's the unjustified killing of a living being.

Not that I consider lumberjacks murderers...because they have the right.

Some consider me a douche, but I do save some trees from poachers. Long story, but asking questions, lots of them and informing as many people as possible to a situation somehow magically makes an old-growth and "dangerous" tree not dangerous anymore.

It isn't like I've done so much, but I did something and it did save one huge tree. Maybe someone will read this and have the courage to do what I did and save at least one tree.

And no, I do not consider myself to be majorly involved in the "fight", but I do my part locally.

/tree poaching is big business
 
2014-07-23 03:52:00 PM

walktoanarcade: tlars699: walktoanarcade: tothekor: I was with you until you got the leaf blower thing. What do you have against leaf blowers? They just blow leaves from one place to another. Not that dangerous to wildlife that I can think of.

They're too noisy and should be used for other purposes, like inflating above ground pools and such.

Brooms do a much better job and leaf blowers stir up lots of particulate matter that gets into everyone's lungs and eyes, worsening allergies to boot. Also, they make the workers using them flabby, whiles a broom works their body.

We've become a society that user leaf blowers and because of them a lot of us need to work out in a gym.  If they stuck to brooms, they get a work out all day and stay in better health, but laziness.

Also, plants, animals and people like me are sensitive to sound.

For reasons of meditation, relaxation and bodily repair, silence, or closer to it is prefered. Heck, regular leaf-blowing is absolutely giving them higher blooder pressure. LINK: http://www.steadyhealth.com/how_noise_increases_heart_rate_causing_hi g h_blood_pressure_t65508.html

And that's old news.

Not to mention to idiots that use them in the rain, or in high wind. :|

Really? Or is it lack of time?

I know we could all make time, but with that, and cooking all those vegan meals that I've grown from my garden from seed, and canning what's left over for winter, sort of hard to just toss in a couple of hours for bicycle-mowing and raking in there.
I mean sure if you have kids that are old enough for chores- great, but what about those toddlers? Gonna have them picking up leaves by hand?

Fair enough, but do you ever work out or feel the need to exercise to stay in shape?

You made your point, though, perfectly, in fact. It's not like people don't already have enough to do. I'm just railing against the abusers of it. I mean, you don't leaf blow in a driving rain like some people do, do you? That's wasted energy and annoying.


Heck no. It's mojitos or lemonade while watching the thunderstorms on the porch.
 
2014-07-23 03:53:44 PM

Fista-Phobia: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 300x300]


Touchdown!!
 
2014-07-23 03:56:00 PM

tlars699: Heck no. It's mojitos or lemonade while watching the thunderstorms on the porch.


If I was in your spot, I'd make sure to say "Mmmm it's good to own land."

/mojito
 
2014-07-23 04:00:20 PM

unchellmatt: What? Liberals in Australia just as knee-jerk, over the top as in the US? The deuce you say!

/not that our conservatives aren't just as bad...


No, the outrage was that the contractor was hired to remove two dead trees, and maybe prune some low-hanging branches from the live ones. Instead, the contractor cut down several of the live trees, all the way to the stumps.

Imagine if you had hired someone to prune your trees in your own yard, and the person instead cuts down your trees? I bet you'd be majorly pissed off, just as the residents in TFA are.
 
2014-07-23 04:05:26 PM

walktoanarcade: tlars699: Heck no. It's mojitos or lemonade while watching the thunderstorms on the porch.

If I was in your spot, I'd make sure to say "Mmmm it's good to own land."

/mojito


No, that just encourages my spousal unit to start quoting Firefly/Serenity.
But then I get to respond back with "Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" so it's all good.
 
2014-07-23 04:07:59 PM

MooseBayou: Trees, like all flora and fauna, have a lifespan.

Seedling - Sprout - Adult - Reproducer - Diseased - Aging - Withering - Falling - Decay or Fire matter

There are more trees on the North American Continent today than when Columbus arrived.


Citation needed.
The National Atlas indicates a loss of 300 million acres in the United States since the mid 1600s down to 747 million acres. About a third of the nation's land is forest now compared to about half in pre-Columbian times

Also of importance is the destruction of most of the nation's old growth forest. It's 90% gone.

Another important factor is the size of a given forest. Small sections of forested land, relatively far more common now than several centuries ago, are less valuable than an equal amount of land that's an uninterrupted forest. Many large animals can't survive without the latter and edge effects negatively impact the entire ecosystem.
 
2014-07-23 04:09:05 PM

Fista-Phobia: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 300x300]


That's not so bad, in my area the Ass-Plunderers would have just clear-cut the thing to the ground.
 
2014-07-23 04:13:15 PM

Fizpez: Have you ever seen a contractor working for the city/state or business go out of there way to do a nice looking job?  I swear there must be some kind of competition to do the shiattiest looking job possible -


Around here they routinely cut down trees when a little pruning would keep the limbs out of the power lines. I've been wondering if the tree pruning/removal contractors are simply cutting down as many trees as they can because they get paid more for removal than they do for just pruning.
 
2014-07-23 04:23:28 PM

August11: We just spent 5k to take down a poplar next to our house. It was a beautiful tree but it was always trying to kill us.


I paid some illegals $500 to remove a large pear tree, but they also managed to knock down our power line in the process so I paid them only $150.
/Comed fixed for free  in two hours
 
2014-07-23 04:23:56 PM
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-07-23 04:25:32 PM

gopher321: Don't kid yourself, Subby. If a tree ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!


Come now, trees are are mostly harmless... their bark is worse than their bite!
 
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