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(WFTV Orlando)   Banksy does it and it's considered pricey art. Rodriguez-Cruz does it and is facing felony criminal mischief charges with damage totaling more than $23,000   (wftv.com ) divider line
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2014-07-23 08:53:50 AM  

gerbilpox: [www.washingtoncitypaper.com image 497x331]

Laughs at the amateur.


Some of my favorite red line memories right there. Disco Dan  = awesome.
 
2014-07-23 09:04:41 AM  

Hoopy Frood: Monet does it and it sells at Sotheby's for $54 million. Your aunt Shirley does it and Salvation Army throws it out.


To be fair, Monet did landscapes. My aunt Shirley does Fartzilla.
 
2014-07-23 09:08:49 AM  

THX 1138: On reading the headline I wondered if it was about someone putting on a disguise and sneaking their own art into legitimate museums:


I like how a lot of museums decide to keep his pieces on display. It's nice to see the curators have a sense of humor.
 
2014-07-23 09:11:40 AM  

THX 1138: digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.

There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x372]


Yeah, if I were to guess, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that's him. How many people in Jamaica (where I believe that pic was taken) look like that AND use stencils for street art (as seen in the pic)? But really, I'd be sad if he were truly outed.
 
2014-07-23 09:12:39 AM  
Maybe in Meh-Hee-Co it's not a crime...check their papers LOL
Guy needs a brick upside his head for not knowing that it's a CRIME.
Loser. Whole family.
 
2014-07-23 09:13:01 AM  
To be fair, Banksy is a pseudonym because he knows what he is doing is illegal and he is likely to be prosecuted if he gets caught.
 
2014-07-23 09:22:53 AM  

quatchi: Meh, paying for repainting buildings after they've been tagged by graffiti can sometimes cause an honest shop keeper his business so I says fark this tagger guy.

In terms of what Banksy does I'm more open to the argument that it's art and the fact that a Banksy tag enhances property values due to his fame or infamy or whatever you want to call it certainly enters into that argument.

Up here in Vancouver we have a tagger who goes by the name "iv" who does some stuff people consider Banksy-esque to the point where Banksy actually posted pics of one of his pieces on his site.

This one...


That's not a "tag".

A tag is when you write your name on something, like a dog peeing on a fire hydrant to let other dogs know that its part of his territory.

For some reason I don't understand, all tags everywhere are done in the same ugly, boring style. Every artist has invented his own unique personal signature tag and style, and its just an coincidence that it's indistinguishable from every other artists original style.
 
2014-07-23 09:23:42 AM  

digistil: Yeah, if I were to guess, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that's him. How many people in Jamaica (where I believe that pic was taken) look like that AND use stencils for street art (as seen in the pic)? But really, I'd be sad if he were truly outed.


Yep, that's the Jamaica photo.  But who knows, it's ten years old now and he's got to look somewhat different at this point.  I also wouldn't be surprised if he changed his personal look to some degree as a result of that photo.
 
2014-07-23 09:27:37 AM  

LemSkroob: I'm guessing education is not going to be a high priority in a hispanic family with a hyphenated last name.


Why not?  That's a really weird combination of stereotypes.
 
2014-07-23 09:28:25 AM  
Rapmaster2000:
It also helps that Bansky is doing it in NYC, London, and Berlin. It's not like Orlando is really going to appreciate anything.

You live in Hollywood and are (apparently) proud of it. You have zero room for dissing any city about taste in art.
 
2014-07-23 09:32:05 AM  
CSB time:

I worked as an intern at an investment bank and we had a marketing guy in pitching to one of our clients.

He was explaining how he painted ads on abandoned buildings to generate buzz.  He flipped through a bunch of slides showing the company logo covering boarded up windows on gas stations and a few run down buildings on a main road. He had a brain fart and couldn't remember the word "graffiti".

Him: "This is a big trend now it's called... shoot.... hey- what's that called where you spraypaint art on a building?"
Me: "Um, vandalism?"

And that is how you teach marketers that "20-something" does not mean "hip".
 
2014-07-23 09:36:34 AM  
Well, we have to do something folks. Now that mary-ju-wanna legalization is an inevitability, we have to have other serious crimes to convict Brown People of. Won't someone please consider the poor for-profit prisons!
 
2014-07-23 09:38:18 AM  

cirby: Rapmaster2000:
It also helps that Bansky is doing it in NYC, London, and Berlin. It's not like Orlando is really going to appreciate anything.

You live in Hollywood and are (apparently) proud of it. You have zero room for dissing any city about taste in art.


It's Banksy, Hollywood is right on point.  You know, 90% image and mystique and just enough substance that real appreciators will tolerate it and everyone else just respects that there is a high production value.
 
2014-07-23 09:38:43 AM  

THX 1138: digistil: Yeah, if I were to guess, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that's him. How many people in Jamaica (where I believe that pic was taken) look like that AND use stencils for street art (as seen in the pic)? But really, I'd be sad if he were truly outed.

Yep, that's the Jamaica photo.  But who knows, it's ten years old now and he's got to look somewhat different at this point.  I also wouldn't be surprised if he changed his personal look to some degree as a result of that photo.


The funny thing I remember about that photo is the photographer posting it online and saying something along the lines of, 'I caught that loser Banksy!! Look!! LOOK!!!! He looks like a complete pompous asshole, just like I knew he would. What a piece of scum!!!'
 
2014-07-23 09:40:01 AM  
Some taggers create beautiful well thought out carefully crafted works of colorful art which enhance the side of the building they grace illegally.

Others are no better than dogs pissing on a pole to mark territory.

This kid's a mutt raising his leg to a wall.
 
2014-07-23 09:40:21 AM  
In this day and age with social media, cameras everywhere and people not keeping their trap shut for a buck, I am very surprised he hasn't been outed yet.
 
2014-07-23 09:42:19 AM  

cirby: Rapmaster2000:
It also helps that Bansky is doing it in NYC, London, and Berlin. It's not like Orlando is really going to appreciate anything.

You live in Hollywood and are (apparently) proud of it. You have zero room for dissing any city about taste in art.


Everybody knows it's true.  The best art in Orlando is in The Haunted Mansion.  The smartest people in Orlando are attending the state's 4th or 5th best public university (whatever U Can't Fail is ranked).  The best looking people are the Brazilian tourists there to see Mickey Mouse.  The best restaurant in Orlando is Planet Hollywood.

You see, cirby, I'm from Hollywood. I have brains!  Hollywood is where movies and TV shows are made.  I'm from Hollywood.
 
2014-07-23 09:49:07 AM  

bekovich: I was at the art school in Bristol when banks was starting to get popular. I thought he was crap back then but all the art teachers were wanking themselves with glee thinking they had a secret 'real artist's in their midst. But then, these were the people that called Tracy emin an 'artist'. Kinda put a lot of real artists off of perusing their love. Fast forward in time, the few people I keep in contact with from art school are estate agents, drunks, or work at dominoes. Or a mixture of three prior mentioned careers.


So the teachers were right?
 
2014-07-23 09:50:08 AM  

digistil: THX 1138: digistil: Yeah, if I were to guess, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that's him. How many people in Jamaica (where I believe that pic was taken) look like that AND use stencils for street art (as seen in the pic)? But really, I'd be sad if he were truly outed.

Yep, that's the Jamaica photo.  But who knows, it's ten years old now and he's got to look somewhat different at this point.  I also wouldn't be surprised if he changed his personal look to some degree as a result of that photo.

The funny thing I remember about that photo is the photographer posting it online and saying something along the lines of, 'I caught that loser Banksy!! Look!! LOOK!!!! He looks like a complete pompous asshole, just like I knew he would. What a piece of scum!!!'


He just looks like a normal guy. And he's dressed like a mechanic. That photographer must have an anxiety attack anytime he takes his car in for servicing.
 
2014-07-23 09:52:27 AM  
You aren't really making art unless you're attracting critics.
 
2014-07-23 10:00:15 AM  

LemSkroob: Hawnkee: RVanZant: The problem.Found it,I have.

"You don't think that's a crime?" reporter Jeff Deal asked.
"Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.

I was going to post the same thing. Looks like the fail runs strong in that family.

I'm guessing education is not going to be a high priority in a hispanic family with a hyphenated last name.


I am guessing that in Spanish/Hispanic countries that people use both their family names and when they come here that is how it is preserved. Also on my wife's paperwork the US hyphenated her last names.
 
2014-07-23 10:08:05 AM  

Moopy Mac: digistil: THX 1138: digistil: Yeah, if I were to guess, I'd say there's a reasonable chance that's him. How many people in Jamaica (where I believe that pic was taken) look like that AND use stencils for street art (as seen in the pic)? But really, I'd be sad if he were truly outed.

Yep, that's the Jamaica photo.  But who knows, it's ten years old now and he's got to look somewhat different at this point.  I also wouldn't be surprised if he changed his personal look to some degree as a result of that photo.

The funny thing I remember about that photo is the photographer posting it online and saying something along the lines of, 'I caught that loser Banksy!! Look!! LOOK!!!! He looks like a complete pompous asshole, just like I knew he would. What a piece of scum!!!'

He just looks like a normal guy. And he's dressed like a mechanic. That photographer must have an anxiety attack anytime he takes his car in for servicing.


Yeah. It was pretty clear the photographer was actually describing himself.
 
2014-07-23 10:17:17 AM  
If these two are comparable then Banksy is shooting the game winning three of the championship and this dude is building brick houses in his mom's driveway.
 
2014-07-23 10:21:27 AM  

msP: THX 1138: digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.
There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:
I would like to think Banksy is someone much sexier than that guy.


Yeah, we all know that Banksy looks more like this. Here he is cooling off a little, after working up a sweat finishing his latest art work.

www.achotelexperts.com
 
2014-07-23 10:24:48 AM  

cryinoutloud: msP: THX 1138: digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.
There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:
I would like to think Banksy is someone much sexier than that guy.

Yeah, we all know that Banksy looks more like this. Here he is cooling off a little, after working up a sweat finishing his latest art work.

[www.achotelexperts.com image 230x288]


Here's Bansky's latest self-portrait:
lsd.dula.tv
 
msP
2014-07-23 10:32:15 AM  

cryinoutloud: msP: THX 1138: digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.
There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:
I would like to think Banksy is someone much sexier than that guy.

Yeah, we all know that Banksy looks more like this. Here he is cooling off a little, after working up a sweat finishing his latest art work.

[www.achotelexperts.com image 230x288]


Good - that's more like it.
 
2014-07-23 10:34:52 AM  
To be fair one is independently wealthy with lawyer(s) and PR people, the other probably not so much so.

It's ALLL GOOOD!
 
2014-07-23 10:48:57 AM  
Graffiti is not art and these criminals need to eradicated. I mean wiped from the earth. Hosed with gasoline and set in fire
 
2014-07-23 11:01:44 AM  
that's why you do it without getting caught,   and when you do it,  you might want to make it look presentable like banksy happens to do;  he goes in prepared and does simple, quick & appealing work.
 
2014-07-23 11:04:38 AM  
If it's any consolation to the perp, I don't consider what Banksy does to be art.
 
2014-07-23 11:09:58 AM  

Hebjamn: I bet a lot of people would pay Banksy.


Yeah, maybe a ten-year-old might.
 
2014-07-23 11:17:18 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Graffiti is not art and these criminals need to eradicated. I mean wiped from the earth. Hosed with gasoline and set in fire


Art is communication.  You don't have to like either the method or the message.
 
2014-07-23 11:35:25 AM  
In my neighborhood, we started adding "SUCKS" to any graffiti tags. So if "RTMISS" tagged a sign, we added "SUCKS" underneath it.

Our neighborhood is now relatively graffiti-tag free.

YMMV.
 
2014-07-23 11:37:39 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Maybe it's because this douchebag is a lowlife tagger and not a graffiti "artist" by any stretch of the imagination.


I agree. Big difference between a cool mural and someone's name. There is a state park near me which has a bunch of abandoned buildings nearby and some of the graffiti there would qualify as art. (Well.....not great art, but pretty cool pics anyway. Example: until very recently there was a pic of a Smurf painted on a chimney, it has been there since the 80's anyway....)
 
2014-07-23 12:36:24 PM  
Heh, I used to battle that guy when I was traveling through FLA.

/his handstyles suck.
 
2014-07-23 12:39:16 PM  
Wonder how pissed these asshats would be if someone painted shiat on the walls of there home.
 
2014-07-23 12:44:16 PM  

MaliFinn: Clemkadidlefark: Graffiti is not art and these criminals need to eradicated. I mean wiped from the earth. Hosed with gasoline and set in fire

Art is communication.  You don't have to like either the method or the message.


And artists are commissioned to make public murals. They don't have to resort to defacing property and trespassing.
 
2014-07-23 01:16:43 PM  
The only appropriate response to Banksy and other graffiti artists taggers.

"Spit"
 
2014-07-23 01:29:57 PM  

bhcompy: MaliFinn: Clemkadidlefark: Graffiti is not art and these criminals need to eradicated. I mean wiped from the earth. Hosed with gasoline and set in fire

Art is communication.  You don't have to like either the method or the message.

And artists are commissioned to make public murals. They don't have to resort to defacing property and trespassing.


Prostitutes are paid too, but that doesn't mean amateurs like you don't fark.
 
2014-07-23 02:34:10 PM  
spacebison.com
 
2014-07-23 02:48:01 PM  
Obligatory

And check out the ITG comments on this one. Reminds me of how the guy who invented Skate Stoppers received death threats. I hope that wall coating catches on.
 
2014-07-23 02:52:46 PM  
Two wrongs don't make a right.  Prosecute anyone for this vandalism if an owner's charges are brought against them.  Harumph!
 
2014-07-23 03:57:14 PM  

fireclown: LemSkroob: I'm guessing education is not going to be a high priority in a hispanic family with a hyphenated last name.

Why not?  That's a really weird combination of stereotypes.


Uninspired trolls are uninspired.

/ most latinos have two last names
 
2014-07-23 04:26:36 PM  
FTFA : "Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.

The give me your address and let me paint whatever crap I want on your house.

Oh, you don't own a house or a car, you just rent and take the bus?  Why am I surprised.
 
2014-07-23 05:17:49 PM  

Boo_Guy: Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.


i think, if they make the FATHER perform and pay for all the re-painting of his sons tags, somehow the message will come across to both of them.
 
2014-07-23 06:20:19 PM  

JuggleGeek: FTFA : "Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.

The give me your address and let me paint whatever crap I want on your house.

Oh, you don't own a house or a car, you just rent and take the bus?  Why am I surprised.


I'm guessing "you are surprised" because in general you are a racist asshole. Probably proud of it too, if your post is any indication.
Hooray for racism! different colored people are better than other people!
 
2014-07-23 09:23:43 PM  

Hoopy Frood: Monet does it and it sells at Sotheby's for $54 million. Your aunt Shirley does it and Salvation Army throws it out.


It's not about the Monet, Monet, Monet...
 
2014-07-23 11:08:25 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm guessing "you are surprised" because in general you are a racist asshole. Probably proud of it too, if your post is any indication.
Hooray for racism! different colored people are better than other people!


What does race have to do with it?  Graffiti "artists" come from all races.  The common denominator is that they think it's okay to spray paint their crap on stuff that other people own.  And almost none of them own anything of their own.

I didn't say a thing about race.
 
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