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(WFTV Orlando)   Banksy does it and it's considered pricey art. Rodriguez-Cruz does it and is facing felony criminal mischief charges with damage totaling more than $23,000   (wftv.com) divider line 98
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2014-07-22 10:31:21 PM  
To be fair, Banksy is better.
More interesting is how the police track things.
 
2014-07-22 10:36:11 PM  
Farking taggers get what they deserve.

/Someday Banksy will as well.
 
2014-07-22 10:45:00 PM  
I hope they don't track my bathroom vandalism. It's international. Perhaps you've seen my tag:

Here I sit my broken-hearted ...
 
2014-07-22 10:54:28 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I hope they don't track my bathroom vandalism. It's international. Perhaps you've seen my tag:

Here I sit my broken-hearted ...



You're lucky, you had your chance...I tried to fart, And shiat my pants!
 
2014-07-22 10:54:44 PM  
Whoo...someone found a buzz word outrage.

Yeah...when Putin does it, it's cronyism...

But when Rick Scott does it just sound biz sense.
 
2014-07-22 11:06:23 PM  
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Ahh..you doing anything tonight? I"m thinking Cat Tossing?

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FARK YOU...I'M GOING TO THE MANHOLE.
 
2014-07-22 11:32:46 PM  
To be fair,  banksy would have been arrested a long time ago if his identity was known.

These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.
 
2014-07-23 12:36:21 AM  

lindseyp: To be fair,  banksy would have been arrested a long time ago if his identity was known.


Was gonna say. The main difference is Banksy doesn't get caught.
 
2014-07-23 12:46:01 AM  

fusillade762: lindseyp: To be fair, banksy would have been arrested a long time ago if his identity was known.

Was gonna say. The main difference is Banksy doesn't get caught.


The main diffrence is that Bansky is a con artist. His performance is coning the art world.
He's not shy about this..he has no real talent other than making people look foolish for purchasing his stuff and becoming a media darling.

Even the worst of the abstract expressionists where doing it because of some ideal for 'art' above the selling price.

And any place 'tagged' by Bansky just hit the farken jackpot.
 
2014-07-23 02:34:22 AM  
Meh, paying for repainting buildings after they've been tagged by graffiti can sometimes cause an honest shop keeper his business so I says fark this tagger guy.

In terms of what Banksy does I'm more open to the argument that it's art and the fact that a Banksy tag enhances property values due to his fame or infamy or whatever you want to call it certainly enters into that argument.

Up here in Vancouver we have a tagger who goes by the name "iv" who does some stuff people consider Banksy-esque to the point where Banksy actually posted pics of one of his pieces on his site.

This one...

i.huffpost.com
 
2014-07-23 05:38:54 AM  
Maybe it's because this douchebag is a lowlife tagger and not a graffiti "artist" by any stretch of the imagination.
 
2014-07-23 05:41:53 AM  
I don't really give a shiat if it's a abandoned building, but on live businesses or homes were people live is wrong.
 
2014-07-23 05:51:20 AM  
Simple test to tell if it's graffiti or art : Would anyone be willing to pay for?  I bet a lot of people would pay Banksy.
 
2014-07-23 05:59:27 AM  

lindseyp: These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.


Yeah, and I doubt he'd be able to successfully throw up an "art" defense, at least in court.  If my "art" is taking a shiat on a police car, that doesn't mean I still can't be arrested for it.
 
2014-07-23 06:00:43 AM  

Hebjamn: Simple test to tell if it's graffiti or art : Would anyone be willing to pay for?  I bet a lot of people would pay Banksy.


I think someone is going to pay for Rodriguez-Cruz's graffiti.

And he will pay with fines and some time behind bars.
 
2014-07-23 06:06:13 AM  

Lsherm: lindseyp: These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.

Yeah, and I doubt he'd be able to successfully throw up an "art" defense, at least in court.  If my "art" is taking a shiat on a police car, that doesn't mean I still can't be arrested for it.


The difference nowadays is that once it's on his website, the property owner is going to be pretty stoked to have "a banksy" and wouldn't press charges or complain about the cost of cleanup.

Public property, however... I still think there's a good chance he'd get charged if caught.
 
2014-07-23 06:08:36 AM  
someone once posten an image of varying types of graffiti. The captions, in descending order were; "This is art, this is awesome, this is shiat."

Spending time creating a thought-provoking piece that sparks conversation and reinforces the reputation of the artist is one thing, writing your name on dumpsters using 17 different colours of spray paint just means you've got too much time on your hands and a massively inflated ego

Not to say Banksy hasn't got an ego, but at least he does something interesting with it
 
2014-07-23 06:09:40 AM  
www.washingtoncitypaper.com

Laughs at the amateur.
 
2014-07-23 06:09:49 AM  
Given that the fines for graffiti are usually on the order of what it costs to actually clean it up properly (so usually a couple hundred bucks per incident, rarely more than 500$), building up 23k$ of fines is... a farking lot of tagging, there.
 
2014-07-23 06:10:45 AM  

lindseyp: Lsherm: lindseyp: These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.

Yeah, and I doubt he'd be able to successfully throw up an "art" defense, at least in court.  If my "art" is taking a shiat on a police car, that doesn't mean I still can't be arrested for it.

The difference nowadays is that once it's on his website, the property owner is going to be pretty stoked to have "a banksy" and wouldn't press charges or complain about the cost of cleanup.

Public property, however... I still think there's a good chance he'd get charged if caught.


Why not both?  Have him arrested and your in demand piece of stucco becomes even more in demand since he'll be done making new pieces of shart for a while
 
2014-07-23 06:17:01 AM  
Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.
 
2014-07-23 06:26:08 AM  
Off with his ear!
 
2014-07-23 06:28:28 AM  

Boo_Guy: Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.


I'm guessing that'd mean that the landlord would have to deal with it.  We city folks usually don't own the buildings we live in.
 
2014-07-23 06:30:21 AM  
The problem.Found it,I have.

"You don't think that's a crime?" reporter Jeff Deal asked.
"Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.
 
2014-07-23 06:33:00 AM  

Running a-puck: Boo_Guy: Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.

I'm guessing that'd mean that the landlord would have to deal with it.  We city folks usually don't own the buildings we live in.


Inside walls would work for me too.
 
2014-07-23 06:35:06 AM  

RVanZant: The problem.Found it,I have.

"You don't think that's a crime?" reporter Jeff Deal asked.
"Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.


I was going to post the same thing. Looks like the fail runs strong in that family.
 
2014-07-23 06:43:23 AM  

Boo_Guy: Running a-puck: Boo_Guy: Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.

I'm guessing that'd mean that the landlord would have to deal with it.  We city folks usually don't own the buildings we live in.

Inside walls would work for me too.


Or his vehicles.
 
2014-07-23 06:48:34 AM  
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2014-07-23 06:50:39 AM  
Banksy:

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Rodriguez-Cruz (guesstamated)

www.dontpaniconline.com
 
2014-07-23 07:11:14 AM  
FTFA: "Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.

I don't think this kid really stood a chance given his upbringing.

As for Banksy -- It's only vandalism if the property owner says it is.
 
2014-07-23 07:24:45 AM  
Writing your name in huge block letters is not art.
 
2014-07-23 07:40:58 AM  
Banksy isn't an artist, he's a stencilist.
 
2014-07-23 07:48:53 AM  

I'm just asking questions: Banksy isn't an artist, he's a stencilist.


Most of the "Street Artists", including Banksy, have typically considered themselves activists and commentators more than anything. Of course Art has often been about protest and trying to raise social awareness of issues. Besides, calling a distinction between being an artists and a stencilist is a false dichotomy. It isn't like you don't still have to design and create the stencils. Being an artist isn't just about being able to freehand paint a subject.

That said I usually find the art world to be extremely pretentious and completely up its own ass. I like Banksy though after watching Exit Through the Giftshop. Need to watch his new doc that is up on Netflix.
 
2014-07-23 07:56:45 AM  
I was at the art school in Bristol when banks was starting to get popular. I thought he was crap back then but all the art teachers were wanking themselves with glee thinking they had a secret 'real artist's in their midst. But then, these were the people that called Tracy emin an 'artist'. Kinda put a lot of real artists off of perusing their love. Fast forward in time, the few people I keep in contact with from art school are estate agents, drunks, or work at dominoes. Or a mixture of three prior mentioned careers.
 
2014-07-23 08:01:53 AM  

Boo_Guy: Sounds like the father needs to have his house tagged,  then see if he still thinks it's not a crime.


Came here to say this, figured someone would have beat me to it.
 
2014-07-23 08:11:15 AM  

Hebjamn: Simple test to tell if it's graffiti or art : Would anyone be willing to pay for?  I bet a lot of people would pay Banksy.


Uh but they won't. Remember when he set up a stall on the street and no one bought his stuff?
 
2014-07-23 08:15:19 AM  

quatchi: Meh, paying for repainting buildings after they've been tagged by graffiti can sometimes cause an honest shop keeper his business so I says fark this tagger guy.

In terms of what Banksy does I'm more open to the argument that it's art and the fact that a Banksy tag enhances property values due to his fame or infamy or whatever you want to call it certainly enters into that argument.

Up here in Vancouver we have a tagger who goes by the name "iv" who does some stuff people consider Banksy-esque to the point where Banksy actually posted pics of one of his pieces on his site.

This one...

[i.huffpost.com image 640x640]


Yup... here in Columbus, we have Vinchen. He's reached the point where most of his stuff doesn't get removed.

www.vinchen.com
 
2014-07-23 08:16:05 AM  

bhcompy: lindseyp: Lsherm: lindseyp: These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.

Yeah, and I doubt he'd be able to successfully throw up an "art" defense, at least in court.  If my "art" is taking a shiat on a police car, that doesn't mean I still can't be arrested for it.

The difference nowadays is that once it's on his website, the property owner is going to be pretty stoked to have "a banksy" and wouldn't press charges or complain about the cost of cleanup.

Public property, however... I still think there's a good chance he'd get charged if caught.

Why not both?  Have him arrested and your in demand piece of stucco becomes even more in demand since he'll be done making new pieces of shart for a while


Back in the day they would have just broken his hands or, if his commentary was political, blinded him.  Good times.
 
2014-07-23 08:22:06 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I don't really give a shiat if it's a abandoned building, but on live businesses or homes were people live is wrong.


This. Absentee landlords practicing demolition by neglect deserve what they get, whether it be squatters or taggers. You have to exercise property rights to keep them.
 
2014-07-23 08:23:11 AM  
Would it be different if someone came in and landscaped my yard without my permission?  Or painted my house?  It may have even improved the value of the property, but what if I didn't want that?  Could I not argue that the yard and house is an "installation" of my own creation and this work that was done to it has defaced and damaged it?  It would be impossible to show monetary damage as the property had increased in value.  At that point, doesn't it become a simple matter of property rights.
 
2014-07-23 08:23:27 AM  
The appropriate punishment should be to require these vandals to repaint the damage at their own expense, or failing that to seize all their personal property and "tag" it with pink gloss. See how they like it.
 
2014-07-23 08:24:15 AM  
shiat... Anyone who goes to the site I posted up there, www.vinchen.com,

BE WARNED THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NSFW (blood/gore)PICTURES THAT MIGHT COME UP WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING.

He did a couple of "christmas cards" a few years ago that have disturbing pictures on them.
 
2014-07-23 08:30:07 AM  
On reading the headline I wondered if it was about someone putting on a disguise and sneaking their own art into legitimate museums:

graphics8.nytimes.com

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2014-07-23 08:30:08 AM  
Behold the power of marketing.
 
2014-07-23 08:33:56 AM  

lindseyp: To be fair,  banksy would have been arrested a long time ago if his identity was known.

These days he probably still would if he did a piece on public property and was busted before posting on his website.


Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.
 
2014-07-23 08:37:35 AM  

digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.


There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-07-23 08:39:45 AM  

rooftop235: To be fair, Banksy is better.
More interesting is how the police track things.


It also helps that Bansky is doing it in NYC, London, and Berlin.  It's not like Orlando is really going to appreciate anything.
 
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2014-07-23 08:41:13 AM  

THX 1138: digistil: Thought his name was Robert Banks and from Bristol, England.

There's a theory that this is him.  Not many (if any) other photos out there:


I would like to think Banksy is someone much sexier than that guy.
 
2014-07-23 08:51:26 AM  
Monet does it and it sells at Sotheby's for $54 million. Your aunt Shirley does it and Salvation Army throws it out.
 
2014-07-23 08:53:25 AM  

Hawnkee: RVanZant: The problem.Found it,I have.

"You don't think that's a crime?" reporter Jeff Deal asked.
"Hey listen, it's not a crime," Rodriguez-Cruz's father said.

I was going to post the same thing. Looks like the fail runs strong in that family.


I'm guessing education is not going to be a high priority in a hispanic family with a hyphenated last name.
 
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