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(Fox 4 KC)   Scientists hail DNA breakthrough in schizophrenia research. Well, technically one scientist, but the voices were all shouting at once   (fox4kc.com) divider line 26
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2014-07-23 09:06:40 AM  
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Schizophrenia does not work that way!!
 
2014-07-23 09:07:21 AM  
...It's still funny to me, dammit!

/not subby
 
2014-07-23 10:07:58 AM  

Donnchadha: Schizophrenia does not work that way!!


Is that what the voices in your head yell you?
 
2014-07-23 10:28:22 AM  
"The fact that we were able to detect genetic risk factors on this massive scale shows that schizophrenia can be tackled by the same approaches that have already transformed our understanding of other diseases," O'Donovan said.

More abortions?
 
2014-07-23 10:35:25 AM  

Donnchadha: [memedepot.com image 320x240]

Schizophrenia does not work that way!!


At least subby didn't conflate Schizophrenia with Multiple Personality Disorder, so there's that
 
2014-07-23 10:51:22 AM  
So... they finally found where religion comes from ?
 
2014-07-23 10:57:07 AM  

cryinoutloud: "The fact that we were able to detect genetic risk factors on this massive scale shows that schizophrenia can be tackled by the same approaches that have already transformed our understanding of other diseases," O'Donovan said.

More abortions?


Kind of a scary road we're starting down, huh?  It'd be crazy to see fetuses aborted for the gray areas like the MAOA gene, the genes linked to stuttering, alcoholism, depression, etc...
 
2014-07-23 11:16:58 AM  

FLMountainMan: cryinoutloud: "The fact that we were able to detect genetic risk factors on this massive scale shows that schizophrenia can be tackled by the same approaches that have already transformed our understanding of other diseases," O'Donovan said.

More abortions?

Kind of a scary road we're starting down, huh?  It'd be crazy to see fetuses aborted for the gray areas like the MAOA gene, the genes linked to stuttering, alcoholism, depression, etc...


Oooorrr "Oh, it appears you may be at risk for Schizophrenia. Let's keep an eye on that, while we also work on things like gene therapy."
 
2014-07-23 11:18:50 AM  
Is it me or is this the opposite of narrowing down the cause_ )going from less genes to more
 
2014-07-23 11:27:35 AM  
Sometimes the voices in your head are the only intelligent conversation you can get.

/looking at you, politics tab.
 
2014-07-23 11:40:20 AM  
Done in one
 
2014-07-23 11:51:00 AM  

nosearchimi: Is it me or is this the opposite of narrowing down the cause_ )going from less genes to more


it's you and your lack of the basic understanding of genetics. Somethings occur because of multiple genes.
 
2014-07-23 11:51:37 AM  

malle-herbert: So... they finally found where religion comes from ?


I always liked the "bicameral mind" theory. It's wrong, of course, and at any rate not testable, but it's fun to think about.
 
2014-07-23 12:32:05 PM  

Donnchadha: Schizophrenia does not work that way!!


Can someone explain this? I always thought "hearing voices" was a very common symptom of schizophrenia.

Talking to a smart schizophrenic is very, very disturbing to me. First, you take a strong mind with all of of the innate powers of observation and pattern recognition. Then, you load it up with the language, symbolism, and constructed logic of modern western thought. Finally, when its about 25 or so, and really its full powers, you let it go off the rails and smash its way through the landscape. The result is terrible.

Imagine a huge mechanical elephant, where all the pistons and gears and machinery are still there, spinning away like they're designed to work, but nothing is going where its supposed to go and the poor monkey clinging to the top has lost all control, and is absolutely terrified. It's terrible.

// must stop typing on phone.
 
2014-07-23 12:57:51 PM  
As the son of two thoroughly deranged non-schizophrenics, I'm pretty wary of this eugenics horse crap. Somehow these genes that "cause" (meaning, "are correlated with") things like nuttiness and addiction are real common in the population.

Suspiciously they also seem to correlate with useful things like motivation, memory, and IQ. So it looks like we'd be trying to kill the Golden Goose just because the stupid goose makes that honking noise.

And then I'm sure all the lazy dull Idiocracies would wonder where their electricity, internet, plumbing, and so on went.
 
2014-07-23 12:58:43 PM  
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2014-07-23 12:59:15 PM  

The Larch: Can someone explain this? I always thought "hearing voices" was a very common symptom of schizophrenia.


Schizophrenia is the loss of the ability to determine what is real and what is not. Auditory hallucinations are a symptom, but they are not "other people" or "other personalities". A schizophrenic would not verbalize the heard voices as if they were his own.
 
2014-07-23 01:05:46 PM  

Donnchadha: The Larch: Can someone explain this? I always thought "hearing voices" was a very common symptom of schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is the loss of the ability to determine what is real and what is not. Auditory hallucinations are a symptom, but they are not "other people" or "other personalities". A schizophrenic would not verbalize the heard voices as if they were his own.


I guess the headline must have been changed between the time of the Boobies and when I first saw it. Because with what's up there now, the subby is not implying the voices he hears are his own.

I guess the Boobies went from being a good joke to being something else. Oh well.
 
2014-07-23 01:09:40 PM  

The Larch: I guess the Boobies went from being a good joke to being something else. Oh well.


Don't be sad. Time does the same thing to all of us. We can't be perky forever.
 
2014-07-23 01:12:55 PM  

Felgraf: FLMountainMan: cryinoutloud: "The fact that we were able to detect genetic risk factors on this massive scale shows that schizophrenia can be tackled by the same approaches that have already transformed our understanding of other diseases," O'Donovan said.

More abortions?

Kind of a scary road we're starting down, huh?  It'd be crazy to see fetuses aborted for the gray areas like the MAOA gene, the genes linked to stuttering, alcoholism, depression, etc...

Oooorrr "Oh, it appears you may be at risk for Schizophrenia. Let's keep an eye on that, while we also work on things like gene therapy."


Your scenario is obviously much, much more likely.

Gene therapy has seen, at best mixed results.

I was responding to a comment about abortions.
 
2014-07-23 01:25:09 PM  

The Larch: I guess the headline must have been changed between the time of the Boobies and when I first saw it. Because with what's up there now, the subby is not implying the voices he hears are his own.

I guess the Boobies went from being a good joke to being something else. Oh well.


The implication in the headline is that the scientist has schizophrenia which turns his solitary voice into the voices of multiple scientists.
 
2014-07-23 03:21:55 PM  

Felgraf: FLMountainMan: cryinoutloud: "The fact that we were able to detect genetic risk factors on this massive scale shows that schizophrenia can be tackled by the same approaches that have already transformed our understanding of other diseases," O'Donovan said.

More abortions?

Kind of a scary road we're starting down, huh?  It'd be crazy to see fetuses aborted for the gray areas like the MAOA gene, the genes linked to stuttering, alcoholism, depression, etc...

Oooorrr "Oh, it appears you may be at risk for Schizophrenia. Let's keep an eye on that, while we also work on things like gene therapy."


Your naivete is cute.
 
2014-07-23 06:10:05 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Technically one.  Seemed like more.
 
2014-07-23 06:24:16 PM  
FTA: However, schizophrenia is usually diagnosed in those over age 45.

That's news to me.....
 
2014-07-23 07:50:51 PM  

cretinbob: nosearchimi: Is it me or is this the opposite of narrowing down the cause_ )going from less genes to more

it's you and your lack of the basic understanding of genetics. Somethings occur because of multiple genes.


No, what they are analyzing is risk factors.  My point= if 1000 genes are a risk factor instead of a small amount of genes we may never understand the complexity.
 
2014-07-24 12:26:10 AM  

gfbabbitt: FTA: However, schizophrenia is usually diagnosed in those over age 45.

That's news to me.....


Yeah, that bit was wrong. There are two forms of schizophrenia, early onset which is truly severe and appears in childhood to teens, and late onset, which manifests in the early 30s.

The real story here is that $650,000,000 grant to study the disorder. That is really important.
 
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