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(Huffington Post)   Creationist leader Ken Ham says all aliens will go to hell, but aliens can survive molten lead which means they'll be just fine in hell which means the Queen will take out Satan which in turn will lead to illegal aliens in heaven. Thanks Obama   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 353
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2014-07-22 08:19:08 AM  
Is Fundamentalist Christianity becoming even more irrational & derpy in recent decades? Or, has the Internet simply allowed the most irrational among them to disseminate their opinions more easily?


Oh, and...


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2014-07-22 08:20:02 AM  
His god is a real pathetic god if he would create things just to damn them.
 
2014-07-22 08:23:14 AM  
Welcome to Helf!
 
2014-07-22 08:41:16 AM  

naughtyrev: His god is a real pathetic god if he would create things just to damn them.


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I damn thee!
 
2014-07-22 08:56:27 AM  
When are we just going to say.... we made it all up.
 
2014-07-22 08:59:58 AM  
I'm getting quite the contact high over here....
 
2014-07-22 09:02:05 AM  
He is either one of the smartest or dumbest people on the planet. Leaning towards smartest.
 
2014-07-22 09:12:51 AM  
This is the kind of shiat that will get us killed when aliens show up.
 
2014-07-22 09:14:28 AM  
"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin,  ."

Well...I'm afraid he's got us there, folks. His science sounds pretty solid.
 
2014-07-22 09:14:30 AM  
"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe"

Funny, I don't seem to remember that part, Ken.  I'm afraid I'm going to need chapter and verse, you lying lowlife scumbag.
 
2014-07-22 09:15:30 AM  
"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin, but because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

So many directions you could go with this. None of them would be positive.
 
2014-07-22 09:16:22 AM  
What about half-aliens like Spock? The Bible isn't so clear on that.
 
2014-07-22 09:17:01 AM  
You know, if a guy like this followed any religion other than Christianity, he would have been institutionalized by now, or in a standoff between the Feds and his cult in an isolated compound in Montana....
 
2014-07-22 09:17:14 AM  

syrynxx: What about half-aliens like Spock? The Bible isn't so clear on that.


One drop rule.
 
2014-07-22 09:17:16 AM  
Oh wait.. He's serious.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*catches breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2014-07-22 09:17:50 AM  
You guys have this all wrong.  He is actually acknowledging the probability of life elsewhere in the Universe and that they aren't human.  This is real progress!

Sadly...
 
2014-07-22 09:18:49 AM  

syrynxx: What about half-aliens like Spock? The Bible isn't so clear on that.


He could be saved, but only if he repents of his sins. The really tricky part would be getting him to understand God's plan for salvation in purely logical terms.
 
2014-07-22 09:19:11 AM  
I saw Bill Nye on Saturday, and one of the questions the audience asked him was how difficult it was to not have an outburst towards Ken Ham during the debate.

He kind of smiled and deflected the question.

You can lead an idiot to evidence, but you can't make him think.
 
2014-07-22 09:21:19 AM  
"You see, the Bible makes it clear..."
"In fact, the Bible makes it clear..."



The Bible makes very little "clear", you moronic douchebag.
 
2014-07-22 09:21:27 AM  
No no. The aliens would say "Thanks Adam."
 
2014-07-22 09:21:28 AM  

kid_icarus: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin,  ."

Well...I'm afraid he's got us there, folks. His science sounds pretty solid.


I don't know... These turtle shells I just pulled out of the fire tell a much different story.

Someone should go on a spirit quest and ask their totem animal what they think about all of this.
 
2014-07-22 09:21:39 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe"

Funny, I don't seem to remember that part, Ken.  I'm afraid I'm going to need chapter and verse, you lying lowlife scumbag.


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2014-07-22 09:21:41 AM  

naughtyrev: His god is a real pathetic god if he would create things just to damn them.


Man creates g*d in his own image, and petty, spiteful, and hate-filled men will create petty, spiteful, and hate-filled g*ds.
 
2014-07-22 09:21:57 AM  
I heard Chuck Colson (another crazy creationist who was big in prison ministries) on the radio 3 or 4 years ago saying that Carl Sagan was wrong about his predictions about life outside of Earth in the universe. Colson said Sagan had made his predictions in the 70s, and yet we still haven't found alien life 40 years later, so obviously there is no alien life. Understanding the size and nature of the universe isn't exactly the strength of creationists.
 
2014-07-22 09:22:10 AM  
He wrote "earth was specially created," and the entire hunt for extraterrestrials is "really driven by man's rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!"

Why would scientists want to "supposedly" prove anything?  They'd likely want to conclusively prove it.
 
2014-07-22 09:22:12 AM  

Nadie_AZ: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin, but because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

So many directions you could go with this. None of them would be positive.


I wonder if this guy even knows his own religion.

/Not a bible expert at all, could still poke a few holes in that
 
2014-07-22 09:22:41 AM  
Remember when the original Enterprise went to the Roman planet, and at the end end of the episode they realized that the Roman weren't talking about a Sun God, but the Son of God?

Jesus is out there trying to save the souls of all those aliens. That's why he hasn't come back yet.
 
2014-07-22 09:23:04 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Is Fundamentalist Christianity becoming even more irrational & derpy in recent decades? Or, has the Internet simply allowed the most irrational among them to disseminate their opinions more easily?


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2014-07-22 09:23:57 AM  
"Kenneth Ham" is such an unlikely name that coupled with this screed I'm pretty Sure we've found out where Andy Kaufman has been all this time
 
2014-07-22 09:24:34 AM  

Conthan: I heard Chuck Colson (another crazy creationist who was big in prison ministries) on the radio 3 or 4 years ago saying that Carl Sagan was wrong about his predictions about life outside of Earth in the universe. Colson said Sagan had made his predictions in the 70s, and yet we still haven't found alien life 40 years later, so obviously there is no alien life. Understanding the size and nature of the universe isn't exactly the strength of creationists.


Did Mr. Colson, in claiming Dr. Sagan's prediction to have been falsified, actually quote Dr. Sagan's specific prediction?
 
2014-07-22 09:24:41 AM  
"because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

All dogs go to hell?
 
2014-07-22 09:24:48 AM  
How can there be aliens when the sky is just a big bowl with holes poked thru it for the light to shine thru (stars) and that rain and snow fall thru those holes with the ocean above that bowl rolls around?
 
2014-07-22 09:25:10 AM  
What if Jesus is worshipped on other planets? Wouldn't that mean aliens are saved from the pit of fire?
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2014-07-22 09:25:46 AM  

naughtyrev: His god is a real pathetic god if he would create things just to damn them.


We're talking about a God who horrifically tortured one of his most devout followers, killing a ton of innocent bystanders in the process, to win a bet with the Devil...
 
2014-07-22 09:26:04 AM  

Nadie_AZ: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin, but because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

So many directions you could go with this. None of them would be positive.


So every living being in the universe save humans is sent to hell? Animals? Plants? Bacteria? That sounds like some crowded damnation.
 
2014-07-22 09:26:48 AM  

Fluid: Nadie_AZ: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin, but because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

So many directions you could go with this. None of them would be positive.

I wonder if this guy even knows his own religion.

/Not a bible expert at all, could still poke a few holes in that



I love when people try to construct arguments based on logic to defend something that is fundamentally illogical.
 
2014-07-22 09:27:12 AM  

"We won't let you into our imaginary afterlife - this book we wrote implies that we're not allowed to, and we pay attention to that book when it fits our needs. Sorry!"

 
2014-07-22 09:27:48 AM  
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"Ah, an alien. One of my father's side projects."
 
2014-07-22 09:28:13 AM  
The Cylons worship God.

Are they going to Heaven?
 
2014-07-22 09:28:56 AM  
Wait...what if we're all going to hell because of something some alien Adam did on another planet? How would we even know?
 
2014-07-22 09:29:23 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe"

Funny, I don't seem to remember that part, Ken.  I'm afraid I'm going to need chapter and verse, you lying lowlife scumbag.


I was going to say about the same thing.  Only, not about the lying part...he has completely misinformed himself by "reading between the lines" instead of what is there.  There's nothing in there that says the whole universe.  It says mankind.  If what he were saying is true, all animals are going to Hell as well, since being without souls they can't have salvation.


Forbidden Doughnut: Is Fundamentalist Christianity becoming even more irrational & derpy in recent decades? Or, has the Internet simply allowed the most irrational among them to disseminate their opinions more easily?


The less informed and more militant have gotten a bigger soapbox with the internet.  So, Hamburger B.
 
2014-07-22 09:29:42 AM  

RminusQ: Nadie_AZ: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam's sin, but because they are not Adam's descendants, they can't have salvation."

So many directions you could go with this. None of them would be positive.

So every living being in the universe save humans is sent to hell? Animals? Plants? Bacteria? That sounds like some crowded damnation.


Will there be hops? Barley? Grapes? Sugar?
 
2014-07-22 09:31:00 AM  
So...he's evolved from fanatically moronic to fanatically evil.
 
2014-07-22 09:31:07 AM  

naughtyrev: His god is a real pathetic god if he would create things just to damn them.


The same god that would create a utopian paradise, give humans free will and stick a random forbidden tree in there for the lulz?
 
2014-07-22 09:31:09 AM  

The Larch: I don't know... These turtle shells I just pulled out of the fire tell a much different story.

Someone should go on a spirit quest and ask their totem animal what they think about all of this.


I would, but I'm pretty sure my totem animal is a ferret, and would get immediately distracted by something far more interesting than "What the fark is going on in Ken Ham's Skull."
/For instance, a particularly shiny pebble.
 
2014-07-22 09:31:14 AM  
Religious ideology is just so downright silly.

My three-year-old has a better grasp on the difference between fairy tales and reality than some of these grown adults do.
 
2014-07-22 09:31:33 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: "You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam's sin affected the whole universe"

Funny, I don't seem to remember that part, Ken.  I'm afraid I'm going to need chapter and verse, you lying lowlife scumbag.


It's in the book of Genesis, just before the chapter where Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel leave.
 
2014-07-22 09:33:38 AM  

Rapmaster2000: He wrote "earth was specially created," and the entire hunt for extraterrestrials is "really driven by man's rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!"

Why would scientists want to "supposedly" prove anything?  They'd likely want to conclusively prove it.


Scientific explanations are never "proven". All scientific claims are tentative and subject to revision or rejection pending observation of contradictory data.

Creationists frequently cite the tentative nature of science as proof of its unreliability, while contrasting their own absolute certainty in their religious claims. They confuse their certainty with accuracy; they are incapable of comprehending that their certain belief in a claim is not proof of the accuracy of the claim.
 
2014-07-22 09:33:43 AM  
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2014-07-22 09:35:00 AM  
The saddest part about this is that people are still giving Ken Ham a platform to speak, and are not immediately dismissing him as crazy as most rational people tend to do.
 
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