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2014-07-22 12:58:14 PM  
What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.
 
2014-07-22 01:18:04 PM  
But they have so much more room for activities down there.
 
2014-07-22 01:29:37 PM  
Now I have Homer singing about fish heads stuck in my head.
 
2014-07-22 01:29:47 PM  
Are you sure they don't play World of Warcraft? I swear I've met these kids.
 
2014-07-22 01:30:35 PM  
In the old days, they'd have left them in the woods.
 
2014-07-22 01:31:25 PM  
Police found the basement while visiting the house for an unrelated matter.  Sounds like this couple might not be upstanding citizens to start with.
 
2014-07-22 01:32:23 PM  
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2014-07-22 01:32:40 PM  
THANKS JENNY McCARTHY!!!!

/You festering scab laden coont.
 
2014-07-22 01:34:22 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


Kinda what I came here to say, but I would have been way snarkier.
 
2014-07-22 01:36:39 PM  
Sloth love Chunk.
 
2014-07-22 01:41:37 PM  
Saw this on the local news this morning. Family members were like "No, no, no, you don't understand. They only locked them up from 10pm to 7am so they wouldn't escape during the night. So it's a good thing they did. It was done from the heart with love"
 
2014-07-22 01:42:05 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


Over in one....
 
2014-07-22 01:42:27 PM  
Sounds like a nice malthusian couple to me.  Just doing their bit to better society...
 
2014-07-22 01:42:46 PM  
Why did God punish these people?
 
2014-07-22 01:43:58 PM  
It makes your mom's basement seem pretty nice now doesn't it?
 
2014-07-22 01:46:40 PM  
Furniture and electricity would probably frighten them.
 
2014-07-22 01:49:30 PM  

whatshisname: Furniture and electricity would probably frighten them.


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Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW.. and run off into the hills, or wherever.. Sometimes when I get a message on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.
 
2014-07-22 01:50:11 PM  
No furniture? What, couldn't they at least put some rocking chairs in there?

//So sorry....
 
2014-07-22 01:51:41 PM  

Felonie: Are you sure they don't play World of Warcraft? I swear I've met these kids.


Yeah, they killed your 87th level mage and then f*cked your mom.
 
2014-07-22 01:52:15 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


Everyone is proud to tell you their child is autistic, like it's a status symbol, but the fun and games end when it's no longer a cute child.
 
2014-07-22 01:52:21 PM  

DoctorWhat: Police found the basement while visiting the house for an unrelated matter.  Sounds like this couple might not be upstanding citizens to start with.


Or a neighbor called it in and the cops invented a pretext to enter.
 
2014-07-22 01:53:33 PM  

Felonie: Are you sure they don't play World of Warcraft? I swear I've met these kids.


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2014-07-22 01:54:10 PM  

DoctorWhat: Police found the basement while visiting the house for an unrelated matter.  Sounds like this couple might not be upstanding citizens to start with.


Well, they have six other kids that have probably grown up on their own as the parents both worked and took care of the twins.  

It takes two people to take care of my one son at only 10yrs old. I can't imagine twins, 22yrs - that would kill me. 

Not excusing the parents but lets hear the whole story first.
 
2014-07-22 01:56:43 PM  

atomic-age: Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.

Everyone is proud to tell you their child is autistic, like it's a status symbol, but the fun and games end when it's no longer a cute child.


Most people that are "proud" to tell you their child is autistic, don't have a clinically diagnosed autistic child.
 
2014-07-22 01:57:59 PM  

brimed03: Felonie: Are you sure they don't play World of Warcraft? I swear I've met these kids.

Yeah, they killed your 87th level mage and then f*cked your mom.


Awwwww someone sounds butthurt, and like an angry basement dweller! Sounds also like you are projecting! It takes experience to come up with that kind of trolling. UMADBRO? DOYOUEVENLIFT?

 
2014-07-22 02:02:51 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


Here are some reasonable options:

- run electricity into the basement
- put furniture in the basement
- put a working bathroom in the basement
- put a television and/or computer in the basement
 
2014-07-22 02:03:01 PM  
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This girl would like to meet them
 
2014-07-22 02:03:52 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


There was a news story last year in the city I live in about a mother with a son who was in his 20's who basically walked her son into either a local social services or community health department office and told them she was leaving her son there because she could no longer take care of him. My wife thought it seemed like a crappy thing to do, but it made me think what other options would she have, especially as the parents start to get really old, and it is not like the kid is going to really improve past a certain point. And if the kid starts to get stronger than the parent then what?
 
2014-07-22 02:04:15 PM  
atomic-age:

Everyone is proud to tell you their child is autistic, like it's a status symbol, but the fun and games end when it's no longer a cute child.

What color is the sky in your world?
 
2014-07-22 02:07:02 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.


Honestly, not much. Desperate parents here have taken to walking into the office of the responsible ministry and dropping the child off because there's nowhere else to turn. They don't belong in prison (not that that's any impediment to putting them there, it seems), they aren't mentally ill so you can't commit them, most long-term care facilities won't take them because they don't have the security or programming they need to keep them occupied...

Walker: Saw this on the local news this morning. Family members were like "No, no, no, you don't understand. They only locked them up from 10pm to 7am so they wouldn't escape during the night. So it's a good thing they did. It was done from the heart with love"


Your child is a non-verbal young adult of unknowable intelligence, with a long attention span, a willingness to damage property and a complete lack of insight into his own self-preservation. He routinely tries to leave your home while you are asleep, putting himself at great personal risk, and is unwilling or unable to follow your instructions to stay put. Brainstorm solutions below without using the word "lock".
 
2014-07-22 02:10:30 PM  
Definitely a basement. Definitely.
 
2014-07-22 02:17:11 PM  

lostcat: Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.

Here are some reasonable options:

- run electricity into the basement


Depending on developmental level of the twins, electricity can be dangerous. (Lamps, Light fixtures broken, etc.)
 
- put furniture in the basement

Mother said they had recently discarded furniture because it smelled of urine. Very likely but they should have replaced it with faux leather bean bags, mattresses on the floor, etc.  Furniture that couldn't be broken and used to hurt anyone if thrown. The mattresses would be hard to keep clean if the boys stripped the sheets and waterproof mattress covers. (I'm making a lot of assumptions here.)

- put a working bathroom in the basement

I'm guessing here that the boys are incontinent and still in diapers. (Urine stained furniture, strong smell of urine)

- put a television and/or computer in the basement

Depending on developmental level of the twins, they may or may not be able to use a TV or computer independently. They may fight over programming. They may weaponize the TV/computer and hurt each other. Night time, when they were supposedly locked in the basement, would be a time for sleeping. Why add the stimulation of a TV or computer?

/complicated scenario
 
2014-07-22 02:23:26 PM  

Madame Ovary: atomic-age: Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.

Everyone is proud to tell you their child is autistic, like it's a status symbol, but the fun and games end when it's no longer a cute child.

Most people that are "proud" to tell you their child is autistic, don't have a clinically diagnosed autistic child.


Same thing with peanut allergies. There have not been an increase in kids diagnosed with a peanut allergy but I think it makes suburban moms feel like a hero to claim that their kid has one then "protect" the kid by making sure no peanuts come near him.
 
2014-07-22 02:23:36 PM  

Somaticasual: No furniture? What, couldn't they at least put some rocking chairs in there?

//So sorry....


Oh, MAN!!  LOL, I get the window!
 
2014-07-22 02:29:15 PM  

mechgreg: Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.

There was a news story last year in the city I live in about a mother with a son who was in his 20's who basically walked her son into either a local social services or community health department office and told them she was leaving her son there because she could no longer take care of him. My wife thought it seemed like a crappy thing to do, but it made me think what other options would she have, especially as the parents start to get really old, and it is not like the kid is going to really improve past a certain point. And if the kid starts to get stronger than the parent then what?


I have a married friend who has an autistic boy and she and her husband had to institutionalize him after her turned 13 or so, because he was about 5'10" and at times he would become very violent.  One day when the father was out of the house the boy had one of these spells and hurt his mother pretty seriously.
 
2014-07-22 02:30:18 PM  
Madame Ovary:

/complicated scenario

And you're only getting started. Throw in a few destructive forms of stimming and tonights nice safe basement with bean bag chairs and furniture becomes tomorrow's "stuffing, table legs jammed in power sockets, peeled drywall, literal shiat literally everywhere, cushion cover wrapped around neck, head stuck in the window, three-alarm kidtastrophe".
 
2014-07-22 02:40:36 PM  
Be quiet and eat your fish heads
 
2014-07-22 02:40:40 PM  
As cruel as it sounds, can't we just start some euthanasia programs or something? This is going to become a huge problem 10-20 years from now as parents start getting too old to care for their autistic children.
 
2014-07-22 02:49:21 PM  
maybe they shouldn't have had them vaccinated in the first place?


/I kid
 
2014-07-22 02:49:49 PM  

Gig103: What reasonable options exist for the parents that can't care for them or afford assisted living for them?

I'm not justifying what they did, I just don't know what options they had. Drive them a few hours away and leave them on a street corner unable to wander home? That would have been legal since they're adults, but no more kind.



These days?  Lots of options.  Drop them off at the firestation, tell them to get a job and get the fark out of the house, sell them on the black market.  Or best yet, when you take a pre-natal pregnancy test that tests for autism (http://genetics.emory.edu/egl/featuredtests/index.php/1642 ) you abort the baby and not punish you or the child.
 
2014-07-22 02:51:39 PM  
Get them a job in the fetish porn industry... Autistic Anal Adventures!!!
 
2014-07-22 02:55:19 PM  
A medium size town in the tony suburbs of Washington, DC ("Our nation's capital") with not only Red Light Cameras but Speed Cameras, too, Rockville, MD, decided that the only help they could give was to legally condemn their house. Could it be the "poor black people smell?" Or the recently passed "No Compassion Zone" ordinance?

DC suburbs are an excellent real estate market.

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When people are saving to buy new bedding because two autistic adults under their care have soiled everything that's a big sign that help is needed. The city only had 22 years to help.  Both autistic twins survived the police entering the house.  No dogs were shot.
 
2014-07-22 03:02:58 PM  
Hey, as long as they still had access to their MLP dvds, they were happy
 
2014-07-22 03:04:03 PM  
 
2014-07-22 03:06:42 PM  
Well at least the cops didnt shoot the twins or taser them, very surprising.
 
2014-07-22 03:09:27 PM  

stonicus: Get them a job in the fetish porn industry... Autistic Anal Adventures!!!


I prefer my "in bad taste" posts with a side of "funny".
 
2014-07-22 03:29:09 PM  

DoctorWhat: stonicus: Get them a job in the fetish porn industry... Autistic Anal Adventures!!!

I prefer my "in bad taste" posts with a side of "funny".


I prefer replies to my comments with a side of "fark you".
 
2014-07-22 03:43:50 PM  
try having it when you gota deal with 2 city/state departments telling you 2 different things.  when my oldest was bout 5 or 6 he was tested for adhd and autism.  He has both. The doctors set us up with a program run by DHS to train parents of kids with special needs.  Well he like to open his bedroom window and go outside.(he had figured out the window locks).  Parents and friends said to just put spikes in the window frame so that the window couldn't be open enough for him to get out.  The people who did the training said we could cause that stop the fire department if they need to get into the window in case of a fire.  So I ask the local FD what to do.  What did they say but the same thing that my parents and friends said. Was told by a firefighter that they never try to open windows(they always think they are locked) if they have to get in a window it get a axe in it.  But still the people form DHS said no
 
2014-07-22 04:18:29 PM  
I will agree with above regarding fire fighters opening windows. We always keep them shut because they can create a potential vent on the fire and make matters worse. When we go to open a window we generally have a fire attack team ready to go in because the new vent is going to make the fire real bad real quick unless we have an attack team to go in right away.

And ya, we don't try to open the window. We bash it out with an axe.
 
2014-07-22 04:38:41 PM  

Madame Ovary: DoctorWhat: Police found the basement while visiting the house for an unrelated matter.  Sounds like this couple might not be upstanding citizens to start with.

Well, they have six other kids that have probably grown up on their own as the parents both worked and took care of the twins.  

It takes two people to take care of my one son at only 10yrs old. I can't imagine twins, 22yrs - that would kill me. 

Not excusing the parents but lets hear the whole story first.


Ummmmm.... you pretty much covered it all when you pointed out the number of children they have. If you can't take care of 2 don't have 6. Their own fault.
 
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