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2014-07-22 11:47:39 AM  
Punting on first down, kicking the can down the road when they can be bothered to do anything at all.

Neither side particularly driven towards doing the hard unpopular things that need to be done because election season is a 24/7 year round deal these days.

Ladies and Gentlemen, your do-nothing, know-nothing perpetually petulant and partisan POS Congress 2014!

Give 'em a hand! Let them feel the love in the room!
 
2014-07-22 12:34:54 PM  
90% re-election rate.

Hooray, gerrymandering!
 
2014-07-22 01:38:34 PM  
if only there were some way to FORCE all bills to the floor for a vote.
AT least that way bills would be voted on.

bah
the house is the worst do nothing house of all time.
there is nothing that the senate can do.
They cant force the house to vote on senate bills and the house isnt sending any bills to the senate, expect for OBAMACARE REPEAL!!!


lol
 
2014-07-22 01:43:12 PM  
"Destroying Obamacare" doesn't qualify as a "great/wise/noble thing."
 
2014-07-22 02:57:51 PM  

Wadded Beef: 90% re-election rate.

Hooray, gerrymandering!


Don't blame me, I live in the District. I only wish I could vote for a useless windbag. I'm stuck with the useless windbags you all send here.

"But the stagnation in this Congress - even in the face of mounting national and international challenges - only bolsters the perception fact that this is really the least productive in history."

FTFPolitico.

"It's the clearest form of generational theft that I've seen us do here," said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), a supporter of a higher gas tax."

Wait, if there are Republicans who are okay with raising taxes here, why the hell isn't this getting done?
 
2014-07-22 04:53:50 PM  
But if they actually voted on bills we'd have no time left for meaningless hearings on manufactured scandals.
 
2014-07-22 04:56:45 PM  

nmrsnr: Wadded Beef: 90% re-election rate.

Hooray, gerrymandering!

Don't blame me, I live in the District. I only wish I could vote for a useless windbag. I'm stuck with the useless windbags you all send here.

"But the stagnation in this Congress - even in the face of mounting national and international challenges - only bolsters the perception fact that this is really the least productive in history."

FTFPolitico.

"It's the clearest form of generational theft that I've seen us do here," said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), a supporter of a higher gas tax."

Wait, if there are Republicans who are okay with raising taxes here, why the hell isn't this getting done?


Because Koch, and Jesus.
 
2014-07-22 05:00:45 PM  
First class health care and paychecks and the only thing they do is fire up the base at home and suck corporate dick...
 
2014-07-22 05:03:28 PM  

nmrsnr: Wadded Beef: 90% re-election rate.

Hooray, gerrymandering!

Don't blame me, I live in the District. I only wish I could vote for a useless windbag. I'm stuck with the useless windbags you all send here.

"But the stagnation in this Congress - even in the face of mounting national and international challenges - only bolsters the perception fact that this is really the least productive in history."

FTFPolitico.

"It's the clearest form of generational theft that I've seen us do here," said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), a supporter of a higher gas tax."

Wait, if there are Republicans who are okay with raising taxes here, why the hell isn't this getting done?


They're afraid of Tea.
 
2014-07-22 05:04:36 PM  

Wadded Beef: Hooray, gerrymandering!


Electoral reform!

We need a nationwide movement through primaries and main elections that you won't get our vote unless you're more for (any kind) election reform than your opponent.

//Some idiots actually like our system of elections and think we're the "greatest democracy in the world".  Fark those people.
 
2014-07-22 05:07:51 PM  
The Democrats were quite willing to compromise. Obama was even willing to offer cuts to social security and Medicare, the most sacred cows of the party. Those compromises weren't getting any legislation through, and I think the government shutdown through the Dems over the edge. They gave up after that.

What I'm looking for in a president in 2016 isn't someone with good ideas so much as someone who can deal with congress successfully. I don't think Hilldog is that person.
 
2014-07-22 05:08:36 PM  

namatad: if only there were some way to FORCE all bills to the floor for a vote.
AT least that way bills would be voted on.

bah
the house is the worst do nothing house of all time.
there is nothing that the senate can do.
They cant force the house to vote on senate bills and the house isnt sending any bills to the senate, expect for OBAMACARE REPEAL!!!


lol


There is the process of filing a discharge petition, but this would require individual congressmen to set aside party loyalty and agree to vote dispassionately based on the merits of an individual piece of legislation regardless of its source, so you can understand why it's almost never used.
 
MFK
2014-07-22 05:09:02 PM  
BSABSVR?

*clicks link*

BSARBSVR.

fark you, Politico.
 
2014-07-22 05:12:04 PM  
Time to clean house and piss punt on congress again.

/if there were any justice in the world a few of them would have been executed for treason against the people, a few more would be in prison, and quite a few would have never been elected in the first place
//the House is particularly odious and in need of some heavy disinfectant and lots of roach traps
///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die
 
2014-07-22 05:14:22 PM  

Xythero: The Democrats were quite willing to compromise. Obama was even willing to offer cuts to social security and Medicare, the most sacred cows of the party. Those compromises weren't getting any legislation through, and I think the government shutdown through the Dems over the edge. They gave up after that.

What I'm looking for in a president in 2016 isn't someone with good ideas so much as someone who can deal with congress successfully. I don't think Hilldog is that person.


At this point, I'm thinking 'dealing with Congress successfully' might require tazers. Or a shark tank.
 
2014-07-22 05:15:12 PM  
Craving weasels? To nom or not to nom?
 
MFK
2014-07-22 05:15:15 PM  
Seriously though,  this whole morass can be traced directly to when these chuckleheads decided to start scoring points off of each other's earmarks. Pork, as distasteful as it sounds, was the grease that kept the gears of government slowly churning. Coalitions were able to be built because if a GOP rep really needed a Dem's vote for a highway project in his district, he was forced to deal and negotiate in good faith and as a result, shiat actually got done. Congressmen had to be nice to each other because you never knew when you'd need the other guy's vote and you had to maintain at least cordial relationships. Congresspeople could go home to their voters and say "yeah, I did vote to protect women's reproductive rights, but I got this gleaming new highway system in return that you all will benefit enormously from!" and he would get re-elected. The second that "earmark" became a dirty word, everything went to hell.  Because take away the ability to provide for your constituents, the only thing you're left with is farking principles and  you can't ever compromise those or you look like the asshole you probably are.
 
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2014-07-22 05:19:48 PM  
"If we're able to stop Obama on [health care reform], it will be his Waterloo."

So much for high-minded goals.

That was Jim DeMint. Former Congressman and now head of the Heritage Foundation'shiatler Youth and Schnitzengrubben Grabben Bund.
 
2014-07-22 05:20:13 PM  
Face facts, we as a nation were not ready for a Black President.

As wise and noble as we think we are some people will simply never get. over. it.
 
2014-07-22 05:27:57 PM  
unfortunately for this narrative, objective observable reality exists
 
2014-07-22 05:28:48 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: But if they actually voted on bills we'd have no time left for meaningless hearings on manufactured scandals.


images.politico.com
"What do you mean 'manufactured'? These scandals are all over the TV! Americans are outraged!"

 
2014-07-22 05:30:48 PM  

Xythero: The Democrats were quite willing to compromise. Obama was even willing to offer cuts to social security and Medicare, the most sacred cows of the party. Those compromises weren't getting any legislation through, and I think the government shutdown through the Dems over the edge. They gave up after that.

What I'm looking for in a president in 2016 isn't someone with good ideas so much as someone who can deal with congress successfully. I don't think Hilldog is that person.


How do you suppose we find someone who can when the GOP will vote and filibuster against their own interests and laws if there is a Democrat in charge.
 
2014-07-22 05:31:42 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Time to clean house and piss punt on congress again.

/if there were any justice in the world a few of them would have been executed for treason against the people, a few more would be in prison, and quite a few would have never been elected in the first place
//the House is particularly odious and in need of some heavy disinfectant and lots of roach traps
///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die


img4.wikia.nocookie.net
"This town needs an enema!"

 
2014-07-22 05:37:26 PM  
to use a soccer analogy, the republicans have been parking the bus since 2009 already, the rest of the country has just gotten used to one side standing around the goal and kicking the ball away while the other side passes the ball around attempting actual strikes

and then when the parked side says "elect us we'll attempt lots of strikes!" and we don't believe them, who knew?
 
2014-07-22 05:38:50 PM  

AdamK: to use a soccer analogy, the republicans have been parking the bus since 2009 already, the rest of the country has just gotten used to one side standing around the goal and kicking the ball away while the other side passes the ball around attempting actual strikes

and then when the parked side says "elect us we'll attempt lots of strikes!" and we don't believe them, who knew?


Yes, but at least Congress has goals.
 
2014-07-22 05:39:19 PM  

Xythero: What I'm looking for in a president in 2016 isn't someone with good ideas so much as someone who can deal with congress successfully. I don't think Hilldog is that person


I think she would be better at it than Obama. And she has Bill to help her out with some advice here and there. Had Obama expected anything like the reception he got, things might have been different. Democrats were far nicer to Bush and usually voted in favor of his agenda, even if it wasn't the way they wanted things to go - they saw the alternative would be chaos, and unlike the current Republicans, they did care and didn't want a default or stalemate. The next Dem President, no matter who it is, will know they're walking into obstruction and partisanship and won't be afraid of pushing Congress critters around.

Hillary's been in politics all of her adult life. She knows (in some cases, quite literally) where the bodies are buried, and what may Congress critters need to take back to their district to get reelected. Obama (understandably) was too ready to compromise, and the Republicans exploited that. Hillary (or Biden or Warren or Feingold or Sanders) will not make the same mistake.
 
2014-07-22 05:41:07 PM  
In any other job they would out on the street.
 
2014-07-22 05:42:17 PM  
I think we've reached a point where we can no longer reasonably assume our elected representatives have actual allegiance to their constituencies, but rather whatever amalgamation of interests has decided to bankroll them.

I don't see things getting better unless we institute term limits and cut down on lobbying, but those are pipe dreams.
 
2014-07-22 05:42:51 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Yes, but at least Congress has goals.


But are they good goals? And does it matter they have goals, good or bad, when when they can't accomplish them?

video.foxnews.com
"Our number one goal is to make Barack Obama a one-term President."

 
2014-07-22 05:44:50 PM  
Voting should be mandatory
Voting should be graded. For objectivity, let another country do it.  Canada, maybe.
"You voted for Louie Gohmert once, okay, try harder next time but you get a "C."  You voted for him twice?  Fail.  Sit out the next cycle, retake civics 101."
 
2014-07-22 05:59:44 PM  

nmrsnr: Wadded Beef: 90% re-election rate.

Hooray, gerrymandering!

Don't blame me, I live in the District. I only wish I could vote for a useless windbag. I'm stuck with the useless windbags you all send here.

"But the stagnation in this Congress - even in the face of mounting national and international challenges - only bolsters the perception fact that this is really the least productive in history."

FTFPolitico.

"It's the clearest form of generational theft that I've seen us do here," said Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), a supporter of a higher gas tax."

Wait, if there are Republicans who are okay with raising taxes here, why the hell isn't this getting done?


Because the President doesn't want to raise the gas tax. He wants to replenish the highway trust fund by effectively increasing taxes on corporations. Given the wage stagnation and wealth concentration problems in this country, I can't say that the President is wrong, either. A gas tax hike would impact middle and working class families the most, and likely damage the economy.

Other ideas besides corporate tax reform and raising the gas tax include allowing the states to make interstates into toll roads, the proceeds of which would go to maintaining the nation's roadways. Let's ask Illinois residents how that has worked out for them so far.
 
2014-07-22 06:05:39 PM  

MFK: BSABSVR?

*clicks link*

BSARBSVR.

fark you, Politico.


Yup.  Exactly.
 
2014-07-22 06:13:32 PM  

ox45tallboy: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Yes, but at least Congress has goals.

But are they good goals? And does it matter they have goals, good or bad, when when they can't accomplish them?

[video.foxnews.com image 640x360]
"Our number one goal is to make Barack Obama a one-term President."


That quote was from Mitch McConnell, not Michele Bachmann.
 
2014-07-22 06:20:51 PM  

anfrind: ox45tallboy: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Yes, but at least Congress has goals.

But are they good goals? And does it matter they have goals, good or bad, when when they can't accomplish them?

[video.foxnews.com image 640x360]
"Our number one goal is to make Barack Obama a one-term President."

That quote was from Mitch McConnell, not Michele Bachmann.


Correct, this is a quote from Rep. Bachmann regarding the shutdown

i457.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-22 06:37:53 PM  

Xythero: What I'm looking for in a president in 2016 isn't someone with good ideas so much as someone who can deal with congress successfully. I don't think Hilldog is that person.


Its pretty clear that the majority in Congress is happy to obstruct obstruct obstruct until they get their way.  You think its wise to give in and reward that behavior?
 
2014-07-22 06:42:14 PM  

DigitalCoffee: ///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die


img585.imageshack.us

But then he becomes a GOD!
 
2014-07-22 06:59:07 PM  

PirateKing: DigitalCoffee: ///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die



But then he becomes a GOD!


Then the twin brother pays the price
 
2014-07-22 07:04:22 PM  

PirateKing: DigitalCoffee: ///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die

[img585.imageshack.us image 356x525]

But then he becomes a GOD!


Neat! so does he:
www.petervbrett.com
\well, a deliverer at least.
 
2014-07-22 07:19:34 PM  
As long as everyone continues to think "all the do-nothing's in congress suck except MY representative/senator" nothing at all will change.

Yes, YOUR congresscritter sucks just as much as everyone else's.
 
2014-07-22 07:44:59 PM  

ox45tallboy: DigitalCoffee: Time to clean house and piss punt on congress again.

/if there were any justice in the world a few of them would have been executed for treason against the people, a few more would be in prison, and quite a few would have never been elected in the first place
//the House is particularly odious and in need of some heavy disinfectant and lots of roach traps
///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 660x370]
"This town needs an enema!"


You realize that if someone were to ever Smilex-gas DC that would be in very terrible taste, right?
 
2014-07-22 07:48:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Yes, YOUR congresscritter sucks just as much as everyone else's.


Fark you, I like my congresscritter.

/Rush Holt, if you're curious
//sadly, he's retiring
 
2014-07-22 08:09:21 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: ox45tallboy: DigitalCoffee: Time to clean house and piss punt on congress again.

/if there were any justice in the world a few of them would have been executed for treason against the people, a few more would be in prison, and quite a few would have never been elected in the first place
//the House is particularly odious and in need of some heavy disinfectant and lots of roach traps
///then there's that farkstick in the black robes that just needs to hurry up and die

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 660x370]
"This town needs an enema!"

You realize that if someone were to ever Smilex-gas DC that would be in very terrible taste, right?


Wouldn't have any effect. The place is already loaded with jokers.
 
2014-07-22 08:37:39 PM  

anfrind: That quote was from Mitch McConnell, not Michele Bachmann.


Quite a few Republican Congress critters expressed the same sentiment in those words. One of those Congress critters was indeed Michelle Bachmann.

Here's one example of her saying it in an interview following the first Republican primary debate. (Fast-forward to 3:20 to avoid too much derp from the combination of Michelle Bachmann and Steve Doocy.)
/and knowing is half the battle
 
kth
2014-07-22 09:11:04 PM  

Gyrfalcon: As long as everyone continues to think "all the do-nothing's in congress suck except MY representative/senator" nothing at all will change.

Yes, YOUR congresscritter sucks just as much as everyone else's.


I started to say that my congresscritter sucks way more than everyone else's but then I realized that was just a knee-jerk reaction because I lived in Kansas most of my life.

Mine is pretty bad though.
 
2014-07-22 09:15:17 PM  
Oh! Oh! Oh! I win! I win! Worstest of all Rep. Kerry Bontivolio, I has it!
 
2014-07-22 11:58:40 PM  

grumpfuff: Gyrfalcon: Yes, YOUR congresscritter sucks just as much as everyone else's.

Fark you, I like my congresscritter.

/Rush Holt, if you're curious
//sadly, he's retiring


You're also a Mercer County Farker? Cool.
 
2014-07-23 12:16:33 AM  

quatchi: Punting on first down, kicking the can down the road when they can be bothered to do anything at all.

Neither side particularly driven towards doing the hard unpopular things that need to be done because election season is a 24/7 year round deal these days.

Ladies and Gentlemen, your do-nothing, know-nothing perpetually petulant and partisan POS Congress 2014!

Give 'em a hand! Let them feel the love in the room!


I thought you were above the bsrb card.

/dnrtfa
 
2014-07-23 05:03:49 AM  

Smackledorfer: I thought you were above the bsrb card.

/dnrtfa


Noting the historical levels of get-nothing-done in Congress these days and the perpetual electioneering that goes on these days that contributes to that shiat-show are valid criticisms.

Again, saying "Both sides are bad"is being obvious.

Saying "both sides are equally bad" is being oblivious.

That noted, there are issues here that transcend both parties that are contributing to this problem.

The system badly needs electoral reform. Districts set up by impartial algorithms and not partisan gerrymandering.

Public financing on campaigns and limits to when that advertising can start.

Get rid of FPTP in favor of Single Transferable Vote.

Some say these things are well nigh impossible to bring about but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try them or at least talk about them.
 
2014-07-23 05:07:38 AM  
Yeah, both sides being full of useless morons with a tendency to punt isn't so much an illustration that both sides are bad as it is a highlighting of how outright psychopathic half the GOP must be for them to still be unambiguously worse at all times by any rational standard, even in that context.

When you're arguably the worse of two reasonable choices, it's not completely unreasonable to keep on truckin'.  When you're UNambiguously the worst of two choices that both suck to begin with, it may be time to seriously rethink your damned life.
 
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