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2014-07-22 08:22:58 AM  
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071:44:48 Collins: Houston, Apollo 11. Understand you want the heaters Off for Hydrogen Tank 1 and Oxygen Tank 1. Is that affirmative?

Apollo 11 Flight Journal:   http://history.nasa.gov/ap11fj/
 
2014-07-22 08:36:02 AM  
Second comes right after first!
 
2014-07-22 08:54:52 AM  
But he did such great work with the whole IRA thing.
 
2014-07-22 09:44:06 AM  
Hey, a bit off topic, but I just realized that the Soviet Union was responsible for Apollo 13.

CDR = Commander of Apollo 13 (Lovell)
CMP = Command Module Pilot (Swigert)
CC = Cap Comm (Houston)
LMP = Lunar Module Pilot (Haise)
Osipovich = Soviet Cosmonaut tasked with destroying Apollo 13.

Times don't necessarily match because they are in Mission Elapsed Time for Apollo, and Zulu Time (UTC) for intercepted Soviet transmissions.

055:49:25 CMP Okay, Jack, during the TV, we were AUTO TRACK, NARROW BEAM WIDTH, and the PRIMARY ELECTRONICS. And we had a good lockup. Just after we started the maneuver, I was able to lock you up and get real good signal strength, and it just seemed that right there at about 239 degrees in yaw, that the signal strength would just drop off and yaw would go to zero and pitch would go to 90.
1823:37    Osipovich: "I am dropping back. Now I will try a rocket."
055:50:05 CC Roger. We copy, and the TV show was great.
055:50:12 CMP Okay, real fine. Okay, I'm going to maneuver to 060, 090, and 0.
055:50:31 CC And, 13, we'd like you to check C-4 thruster.

1824:22    Osipovich: "Roger, I am in lock-on."
055:51:33 CMP Okay, Jack. The battery charge has been terminated on the battery B.
055:51:38 CC Roger. We see it, Jack. And we got a reading of minus 2 degrees on the docking index. We'd like to know it that's 2.0 precise or if it's 2.1 or 1.9.
055:51:54 CMP No. It's a minus 2.0 precisely.
055:51:56 CC Thank you.

1825:11    Osipovich: "I am closing on the target, am in lock-on. Distance to target is 8 kilometers."
055:52:58 CC 13, we've got one more item for you, when you get a chance. We'd like you to stir up your cryo tanks. In addition, I have shaft and trunnion - -
055:53:06 CMP Okay.
055:53:07 CC- - for looking at the Comet Bennett, if you need it.
055:53:12 CMP Okay. Stand by.

1826:20    Osipovich: "I have executed the launch."
055:55:19 LMP Okay, Houston - -
1826:22    Osipovich: "The target is destroyed."
055:55:20 CDR I believe we've had a problem here.
1826:27    Osipovich: "I am breaking off attack."
055:55:28 CC This is Houston. Say again, please.
055:55:35 CDR Houston, we've had a problem. We've had a MAIN B BUS UNDERVOLT.
055:55:42 CC Roger. MAIN B UNDERVOLT.
055:55:58 CC Okay, stand by, 13. We're looking at it.
055:56:10 LMP Okay. Right now, Houston, the voltage is - is looking good. And we had a pretty large bang associated with the CAUTION AND WARNING there. And as I recall, MAIN B was the one that had had an amp spike on it once before.


I speculate that the Soviet cosmonaut thought that Apollo 13 was destroyed because it was obscured by debris from the missile hit and from the venting gas, but that's pure speculation.
 
2014-07-22 09:56:47 AM  

dittybopper: but I just realized that the Soviet Union was responsible for Apollo 13.


Has the subscription rate to your newsletter gotten into double digits yet?
 
2014-07-22 10:08:36 AM  
Odd thing is that, when there are no meetings scheduled in the Buzz Aldrin Conference Room, NASA will play this movie on the big screen TV.
 
2014-07-22 10:58:58 AM  
a cell phone waiting lot for Michael Collins

FTFY
 
2014-07-22 10:59:13 AM  

InterruptingQuirk: dittybopper: but I just realized that the Soviet Union was responsible for Apollo 13.

Has the subscription rate to your newsletter gotten into double digits yet?


Not yet.  But I'll keep trying.
 
2014-07-22 11:01:01 AM  
Figured it would have been a sound stage, not an entire building.
 
2014-07-22 11:18:46 AM  
They should really just name the boxing gym after Aldrin...
 
2014-07-22 11:21:52 AM  
Michael Collins was always my favorite of the astronauts.

When I was young, it was because he had the same first name as me, but as I've gotten older, I've come
to appreciate the fact that, much like Moses, he only got to glimpse the promised land from afar.
 
2014-07-22 11:25:23 AM  
 
2014-07-22 11:35:02 AM  
I always thought it was a little dickish the way Armstrong withdrew after Apollo 11. If he always wanted to be left alone, he should have let Aldrin go first.
 
2014-07-22 11:54:58 AM  
The Michael Collins memorial monorail.  It takes you from the parking lot to the main entrance, but the driver never gets to go in.
 
2014-07-22 11:55:44 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Michael Collins was always my favorite of the astronauts.


He had a smoking hot daughter who was an actress.
 
2014-07-22 12:00:13 PM  
They should name a limo after Collins
 
2014-07-22 12:03:56 PM  

Tenga: I always thought it was a little dickish the way Armstrong withdrew after Apollo 11. If he always wanted to be left alone, he should have let Aldrin go first.


They tested that.  It was always the junior that does the risky stuff while the more senior/experienced hand remained behind.  Basically, Armstrong was first because Armstrong was next to the door. When they tried having Aldrin climb over, the mockup was damaged.
 
2014-07-22 12:24:34 PM  
Shouldn't they name the NASA boxing gym after Buzz?
 
2014-07-22 12:30:26 PM  
Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom
 
2014-07-22 12:40:42 PM  

Metastatic Capricorn: They tested that. It was always the junior that does the risky stuff while the more senior/experienced hand remained behind. Basically, Armstrong was first because Armstrong was next to the door. When they tried having Aldrin climb over, the mockup was damaged.


Armstrong was the mission commander.   The story I heard long ago was that it was definitely going to be him because he was a civilian, and had been for years.  Aldrin was still active duty, and rotated back to a military gig after assignment to NASA.  It was an intensely political environment, and the US didn't want to blow the chance to take the high road, hence the speech prepared for Armstrong and the plaque left behind on the lander stage reading "Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon July 1969, A.D. We came in peace for all mankind."

I don't think it was due to the seating arrangement, or more to the point the seating was assigned so that the person they wanted was closest to the exit.
 
2014-07-22 12:47:30 PM  

assburp: Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom


You get one window seat to Mars for that one.

/now... get your ass to Mars
 
2014-07-22 12:58:45 PM  

Bacontastesgood: hence the speech prepared for Armstrong


My bad.  Apparently he came up with it himself.
 
2014-07-22 01:02:32 PM  

Bacontastesgood: Metastatic Capricorn: They tested that. It was always the junior that does the risky stuff while the more senior/experienced hand remained behind. Basically, Armstrong was first because Armstrong was next to the door. When they tried having Aldrin climb over, the mockup was damaged.

Armstrong was the mission commander.   The story I heard long ago was that it was definitely going to be him because he was a civilian, and had been for years.  Aldrin was still active duty, and rotated back to a military gig after assignment to NASA.  It was an intensely political environment, and the US didn't want to blow the chance to take the high road, hence the speech prepared for Armstrong and the plaque left behind on the lander stage reading "Here men from the planet Earth first set foot upon the Moon July 1969, A.D. We came in peace for all mankind."

I don't think it was due to the seating arrangement, or more to the point the seating was assigned so that the person they wanted was closest to the exit.


Read this just the other day: The Surprising Reason Neil Armstrong was First to Walk on the Moon
 
2014-07-22 01:11:52 PM  

zamboni: assburp: Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom

You get a one-way window seat to Mars for that one.

/now... get your ass to Mars


FTFM
 
2014-07-22 01:16:05 PM  
If there's a boxing ring in the gym, they should name that after Buzz Alsrin.
 
2014-07-22 01:16:49 PM  
Yes, Spelling Nazis, I hit the S instead of the D by accident. Off to Der Camps I go.
 
2014-07-22 01:17:13 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: zamboni: assburp: Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom

You get a one-way window seat to Mars for that one.

/now... get your ass to Mars

FTFM


It was quite funny, but if the Apollo 1 fire hadn't happened, Gus would probably have been the first one
on the Moon.
 
2014-07-22 01:21:05 PM  

Sugarbombs: a cell phone waiting lot for Michael Collins

FTFY


I loved his music in the 80s. I didn't realize Neil Armstrong was such a fan.
 
2014-07-22 01:31:36 PM  

zamboni: /now... get your ass to Mars


Aldrin has started going around saying that now: https://pay.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2a5vg8/i_am_buzz_aldrin_engine e r_american_astronaut_and/cirup3v
 
2014-07-22 01:33:00 PM  

big pig peaches: Sugarbombs: a cell phone waiting lot for Michael Collins

FTFY

I loved his music in the 80s. I didn't realize Neil Armstrong was such a fan.


Oh right. Was that the guy who watched Armstrong and Aldrin drown in the Sea of Tranquility and did not lend a hand?
 
2014-07-22 01:33:24 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: InterruptingQuirk: zamboni: assburp: Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom

You get a one-way window seat to Mars for that one.

/now... get your ass to Mars

FTFM

It was quite funny, but if the Apollo 1 fire hadn't happened, Gus would probably have been the first one
on the Moon.


Yeah, we went through that in the moon landing thread.

I wonder who the rest of the crew would have been, since the rotation idea would have been out the window if it's confirmed from day one that Grissom walks on the moon,
 
2014-07-22 01:41:43 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Michael Collins was always my favorite of the astronauts.

When I was young, it was because he had the same first name as me, but as I've gotten older, I've come
to appreciate the fact that, much like Moses, he only got to glimpse the promised land from afar.

Yes, but he does have one distinction everyone forgets. While Armstrong and Aldrin were on the lunar surface and Collins was orbiting around the back side of the moon and out of contact with NASA, he was the first person to be completely cut off from the human race.

He wrote a great autobiography about his life as an astronaut - highly recommended.
 
2014-07-22 01:45:38 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: DjangoStonereaver: InterruptingQuirk: zamboni: assburp: Also, the smoking area by the loading dock has been named after Gus Grissom

You get a one-way window seat to Mars for that one.

/now... get your ass to Mars

FTFM

It was quite funny, but if the Apollo 1 fire hadn't happened, Gus would probably have been the first one
on the Moon.

Yeah, we went through that in the moon landing thread.

I wonder who the rest of the crew would have been, since the rotation idea would have been out the window if it's confirmed from day one that Grissom walks on the moon,


I always thought that the moon landing crew would have been Grissom, White and Chaffee.
 
2014-07-22 02:10:09 PM  

ImpendingCynic: DjangoStonereaver: Michael Collins was always my favorite of the astronauts.  When I was young, it was because he had the same first name as me, but as I've gotten older, I've come
to appreciate the fact that, much like Moses, he only got to glimpse the promised land from afar.

Yes, but he does have one distinction everyone forgets. While Armstrong and Aldrin were on the lunar surface and Collins was orbiting around the back side of the moon and out of contact with NASA, he was the first person to be completely cut off from the human race.


So in addition to "not getting to walk on the Moon", he also gets to be "loneliest person in the universe".

www.patentspostgrant.com
 
2014-07-22 02:24:48 PM  
Lets also not forget that Aldrin is a major attention whore and was even back then. He lobbied NASA brass extremely hard to be the first guy out once he found out he was on the mission and I don't doubt that played a role in not selecting him. NASA didn't want one guy overshadowing the moment, and Aldrin had that kind of personality (think of him as the first reality tv star). Also, Aldrin is extremely religious and wanted to have a ceremony done as part of the landing. NASA eventually allowed him to bring a small communion set so he could take communion once they landed (off mic and camera). Once again, NASA didnt want the moment overshadowed by religious symbolism.

None of this will ever be officially stated, but many of those involved at the time have said those very things in "off-the-record" interviews. Aldrin was a pain in the ass about the landing and NASA had Armstrong go first because of it.

Just to clarify, i have nothing against Aldrin. He's a great man that did great things. But it doesnt change the fact that he's an attention whore.
 
2014-07-22 03:03:44 PM  

Dick Gozinya: He's a great man that did great things. But it doesnt change the fact that he's an attention whore.


You know, that's usually the case.
 
2014-07-22 03:16:08 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I always thought that the moon landing crew would have been Grissom, White and Chaffee.


White would have more likely been a mission commander for one of the later lunar missions, like Dave Scott or John Young.

//IMO, anyway.
 
2014-07-22 03:49:48 PM  

Metastatic Capricorn: Tenga: I always thought it was a little dickish the way Armstrong withdrew after Apollo 11. If he always wanted to be left alone, he should have let Aldrin go first.

They tested that.  It was always the junior that does the risky stuff while the more senior/experienced hand remained behind.  Basically, Armstrong was first because Armstrong was next to the door. When they tried having Aldrin climb over, the mockup was damaged.


It just bothers me that'll still be talking about him 1000 years from now, and in that very brief period when he was still alive, he decided to STFU.
 
2014-07-22 03:50:43 PM  
/ try preview
 
2014-07-22 04:16:23 PM  
My high school was named after Zefram Cochrane.
 
2014-07-22 04:24:26 PM  

Ambitwistor: ImpendingCynic: DjangoStonereaver: Michael Collins was always my favorite of the astronauts.  When I was young, it was because he had the same first name as me, but as I've gotten older, I've come
to appreciate the fact that, much like Moses, he only got to glimpse the promised land from afar.

Yes, but he does have one distinction everyone forgets. While Armstrong and Aldrin were on the lunar surface and Collins was orbiting around the back side of the moon and out of contact with NASA, he was the first person to be completely cut off from the human race.

So in addition to "not getting to walk on the Moon", he also gets to be "loneliest person in the universe".

[www.patentspostgrant.com image 360x270]


Apollo 8 and 10 did it too - really, 10 did everything but land on the surface of the moon. Apparently, NASA deliberatley underfueled the LEM, thinking that Stafford and Cernan might just say "fark it" and land themselves if given the opportunity.

And while it's amusing to think of Collins as nothing but the cabbie or what he missed... can you imagine how many other astronauts would have rushed to take his place if he had passed on the mission?
 
2014-07-22 05:46:59 PM  

clkeagle: Apollo 8 and 10 did it too - really, 10 did everything but land on the surface of the moon. Apparently, NASA deliberatley underfueled the LEM, thinking that Stafford and Cernan might just say "fark it" and land themselves if given the opportunity.


In 8 and 10 there were 3 of them when they went around the moon.  Collins was by himself when he went to the dark side.
 
2014-07-22 05:58:22 PM  

Ambitwistor: So in addition to "not getting to walk on the Moon", he also gets to be "loneliest person in the universe".


f.kulfoto.com
 
2014-07-22 10:27:55 PM  

Tenga: I always thought it was a little dickish the way Armstrong withdrew after Apollo 11. If he always wanted to be left alone, he should have let Aldrin go first.


Read this book and you'll understand why he withdrew.  http://www.amazon.com/First-Man-Life-Neil-Armstrong/dp/1476727813

Hell, he second child (Karen) died of a brain tumor during his time with the X-15 program. He was the first human to walk on the farking moon and he left no personal memento for her or his two sons. I'm pretty sure the other 11 moon walkers did but don't quote me.
He was first and foremost an engineer
And besides, the LEM hatch door opened toward Aldrin
 
2014-07-22 10:45:40 PM  
what the f*ck was that Ryssky noise, ditty!?
 
2014-07-22 10:49:31 PM  

mjbok: clkeagle: Apollo 8 and 10 did it too - really, 10 did everything but land on the surface of the moon. Apparently, NASA deliberatley underfueled the LEM, thinking that Stafford and Cernan might just say "fark it" and land themselves if given the opportunity.

In 8 and 10 there were 3 of them when they went around the moon.  Collins was by himself when he went to the dark side.


Oh, you're right... I forgot the LEM was orbiting with the CSM during Apollo 10. For some reason I thought it slowed down over the Apollo 11 landing site.

Young was alone in the CSM, but I don't think he was ever out-of-contact with Stafford and Cernan.
 
2014-07-22 10:53:31 PM  
BAD DITTY!! BAD BAD!!

*vigorously spanks ditty with tiny paw*

/like hell I'm givin it away, that's for the rest of you to think over
 
2014-07-23 07:07:34 AM  

Kittypie070: BAD DITTY!! BAD BAD!!

*vigorously spanks ditty with tiny paw*

/like hell I'm givin it away, that's for the rest of you to think over


Thank you, Ma'am, may I have another?
 
2014-07-23 07:51:04 PM  
Tenga:

It just bothers me that'll still be talking about him 1000 years from now, and in that very brief period when he was still alive, he decided to STFU.

Why?  He didn't owe anybody shiat except to do the job and do it well.  That's what he did, and then he didn't seek the limelight.  That's class.  He was smart enough to know that he should STFU as much as possible or the ridiculous news media would dissect his speech forever until they found some little reason to tear him down.  He owed it to history to STFU and not try to be some ridiculous fame whore after being the first man to walk on the farking moon.

/the moon, Houston.  The farking moon.  Over.
 
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