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(KSAT San Antonio)   U.S. Rep. Filemon Vela: "If Governor Perry is so eager to deploy the National Guard, he should do so by sending them to cities with the most crime, which are not along the border"   (ksat.com) divider line 36
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2014-07-22 10:10:11 AM  
Nice take down of Perry there. A gang tackle if you will.

Reasonable people looking for and suggesting short term humanitarian solutions to the children coming in over the border and long term solutions in terms of immigration reform.

Rightfully deriding Perry's bald faced attempts to position himself for another 2016 run at the GOP nomination with Border photo ops, vague criticisms trying to affix blame to Obama personally for this and no real solutions beyond his "militarize the border" scheme.

The Archbishop dropping the Pope Francis cite on Perry's head was the cherry on the cake.
 
2014-07-22 10:20:36 AM  
That's a douchebag thing to say:  The military, whether under control of the state or the federal government, shouldn't be used for law enforcement.  To quell widespread riots, sure.  Disaster relief and recover?  Absolutely.

But normal, day-to-day law enforcement?   You really don't want to go there.
 
2014-07-22 10:25:28 AM  
I should point out, too the difference between civil law enforcement within the country as a whole and within the respective states, and controlling the border and protecting it from those who want to get in.  Military troops looking out are far less offensive than military troops looking in.
 
2014-07-22 10:48:55 AM  
Good idea. Let's just start making ED-209s while we're at it. The original, not the one from the shiatty remake.
 
2014-07-22 10:56:27 AM  
"I am concerned with how much this deployment would cost both in state dollars and economic development when the existing Operation Strong Safety is operating well. "

That Rick Perry sure is a tax and spend liberal looking for new things to spend money on.
 
2014-07-22 11:02:58 AM  

stpauler: "I am concerned with how much this deployment would cost both in state dollars and economic development when the existing Operation Strong Safety is operating well. "

That Rick Perry sure is a tax and spend liberal looking for new things to spend money on.


Doesn't count when it's military spending.
 
2014-07-22 11:19:15 AM  
One meaningless action is as good as another. But this one doesn't stick it to the libs or the mean Muslim in Washington
 
2014-07-22 12:21:28 PM  
What Perry and the GOP want you to think the border looks like:

img2.wikia.nocookie.net

What the border looks like:

media.sdreader.com
 
2014-07-22 12:23:09 PM  

Mugato: Good idea. Let's just start making ED-209s while we're at it. The original, not the one from the shiatty remake.


The terrain on the border is kinda rocky. Hell, EDs had enough trouble climbing stairs.
 
2014-07-22 12:23:14 PM  

Mugato: stpauler: "I am concerned with how much this deployment would cost both in state dollars and economic development when the existing Operation Strong Safety is operating well. "

That Rick Perry sure is a tax and spend liberal looking for new things to spend money on.

Doesn't count when it's military spending.


All military spending that is approved should be accompanied by the tax increase that will pay for it.
 
2014-07-22 12:28:04 PM  

dittybopper: That's a douchebag thing to say: The military, whether under control of the state or the federal government, shouldn't be used for law enforcement.


I agree.  Perry is a douchebag.
 
2014-07-22 12:28:26 PM  

dittybopper: That's a douchebag thing to say:  The military, whether under control of the state or the federal government, shouldn't be used for law enforcement.  To quell widespread riots, sure.  Disaster relief and recover?  Absolutely.

But normal, day-to-day law enforcement?   You really don't want to go there.


Well it was an if-then statement. I concur with your sentiment though.

The guard is not remotely trained to handle 4th and 5th amendment issues.
 
2014-07-22 12:28:56 PM  

Mugato: stpauler: "I am concerned with how much this deployment would cost both in state dollars and economic development when the existing Operation Strong Safety is operating well. "

That Rick Perry sure is a tax and spend liberal looking for new things to spend money on.

Doesn't count when it's military spending.


For lulz I brought this up to some people on FB. They said we can take the money out of Public Schools, IRS, FBI, CIA, Dept of Energy, anything dealing with the country's infrastructure.  Basically, give the military a blank check. When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts
 
2014-07-22 12:29:44 PM  
I like how he kept referring to him using his "executive" power to evoke the National Guard.  Don't worry Rick, those glasses are enough to convince us what a smart guy you are.
 
2014-07-22 12:29:56 PM  
Even supporters admit that the troops are only being sent to be a "visual deterrent" and can't actually do anything, meaning they will be as effective at stopping those coming across as putting up a sign that says, "Pretty please do not cross over our border"  but only cost much, much more.  So, of course, Republicans seem to be tripping all over themselves to support it.
 
2014-07-22 12:32:04 PM  

eagles95: For lulz I brought this up to some people on FB. They said we can take the money out of Public Schools, IRS, FBI, CIA, Dept of Energy, anything dealing with the country's infrastructure.  Basically, give the military a blank check. When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts


You might think about doing some "housekeeping" on your friend list.
 
2014-07-22 12:34:03 PM  

eagles95: When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts


Really, what do they say?  I've been trying to get any supporter to explain why they think that this ineffective, money-siphoning, visual deterrent is worthwhile for any reason and no one has explained in any of the threads on this subject.  They simply will not acknowledge the fact that this will prevent exactly no one from coming into the country at the cost of millions of dollars.
 
2014-07-22 12:35:05 PM  

rjakobi: Mugato: Good idea. Let's just start making ED-209s while we're at it. The original, not the one from the shiatty remake.

The terrain on the border is kinda rocky. Hell, EDs had enough trouble climbing stairs.


Good point. Then they'll be immobile and the Mexicans will steal them, lower them and install an 8 track player in them.

*runs*
 
2014-07-22 12:39:58 PM  

RyogaM: Really, what do they say?  I've been trying to get any supporter to explain why they think that this ineffective, money-siphoning, visual deterrent is worthwhile for any reason and no one has explained in any of the threads on this subject.  They simply will not acknowledge the fact that this will prevent exactly no one from coming into the country at the cost of millions of dollars.


Millions ? With an M ? You are so cute.
 
2014-07-22 12:42:55 PM  

Mugato: eagles95: For lulz I brought this up to some people on FB. They said we can take the money out of Public Schools, IRS, FBI, CIA, Dept of Energy, anything dealing with the country's infrastructure.  Basically, give the military a blank check. When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts

You might think about doing some "housekeeping" on your friend list.


Gotta keep some derp around. More fun than fighting people here

RyogaM: eagles95: When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts

Really, what do they say?  I've been trying to get any supporter to explain why they think that this ineffective, money-siphoning, visual deterrent is worthwhile for any reason and no one has explained in any of the threads on this subject.  They simply will not acknowledge the fact that this will prevent exactly no one from coming into the country at the cost of millions of dollars.


Basically think of the scene in World War Z at the wall where they take out machine guns on the zombies.  When bringing up their own ancestors its always, my family came here legally from Europe. I always ask how do they know. They always reply with how else could they get here? they couldn't cross a desert like current ones. Then it turns to THEY TOOK UR JERBS!!! I always say if you hate your job so much, go out to the farm fields and meat processing plants and ask for a job. I'm sure the owner will hire you since you will work long hours in hellish conditions and not complain. Usually the people bitaching the loudest are unemployed waiting for middle management type work.
 
2014-07-22 12:47:08 PM  

eagles95: Usually the people bitaching the loudest are unemployed waiting for middle management type work.


I wouldn't advertise to the world that I was replaced by or is fighting for the same job as an illegal with no skills and who can't speak english.
 
2014-07-22 01:34:46 PM  

eagles95: Mugato: stpauler: "I am concerned with how much this deployment would cost both in state dollars and economic development when the existing Operation Strong Safety is operating well. "

That Rick Perry sure is a tax and spend liberal looking for new things to spend money on.

Doesn't count when it's military spending.

For lulz I brought this up to some people on FB. They said we can take the money out of Public Schools, IRS, FBI, CIA, Dept of Energy, anything dealing with the country's infrastructure.  Basically, give the military a blank check. When noting they can't stop the people from crossing the border and their guns are basically for show only, that's when the derpfest really starts


The other piece is that these kids aren't exactly trying to get away.  They think that by being taken into custody they will get asylum.   Adding more people to police the border there does exactly nothing.  Now we could have had additional places to house them, but the shiatheels at GatewayPundit farked that up real good.  We could bus them to locations to speed the process up, but the people who decided to scream at buses full of kids who don't speak English farked that one up nicely.
 
2014-07-22 01:36:28 PM  

Mugato: eagles95: Usually the people bitaching the loudest are unemployed waiting for middle management type work.

I wouldn't advertise to the world that I was replaced by or is fighting for the same job as an illegal with no skills and who can't speak english.


Pfffft, whatever lib. You're only saying that because you're not a grade-A moron like us real Americans!
 
2014-07-22 01:58:21 PM  
Violent crime is much less prevalent in South Texas than other Texas cities.

This isn't surprising, really... Florence, AZ is a sleepy little town that houses both the Pinal County jail and the state prison. Someone breaks out of jail, you might get your car stolen, but whatever they do, getting out of town is the #1 priority, so they don't hang around and wreak havok. Same thing with the border... Hell, even Tucson has less issues with illegals than Phoenix, because Phx is close enough to put down roots, but isn't so close to the border that it's crawling with Border Patrol. Perry would notice this if either he or his staff was even partially competent.
 
2014-07-22 02:24:10 PM  
You don't fix rampant crime by hiring cops. Poverty needs to be addressed for anything to actually change.
 
2014-07-22 04:40:51 PM  

Russ1642: You don't fix rampant crime by hiring cops. Poverty needs to be addressed for anything to actually change.


Nobody is going to get a jump start for their political career in the GOP by fixing poverty.
 
2014-07-22 05:05:42 PM  

BSABSVR: Russ1642: You don't fix rampant crime by hiring cops. Poverty needs to be addressed for anything to actually change.

Nobody is going to get a jump start for their political career in the GOP by fixing poverty.


This. Poverty is what keeps the GOP going. If people are poor, they can't afford education beyond public high school. And THAT education is crap because the American education system has been butchered.

Poor and uneducated people will often take whatever job they can get, which will be even MORE true if the GOP ever manages to totally kill the safety net. If they're that desperate, they can't afford to complain when their bosses treat them like shiat, let alone quit. And they can't improve their station because, as stated, they can afford neither the time nor money to get an education that would allow them to move up in the world.

People turn to crime instead of going through all that? Instant bogeymen, to scare middle-class white people into voting for fascist assholes in the name of being Tough On Crime™.
 
2014-07-22 06:06:13 PM  
Yeah, it's a humanitarian crisis because of the children™.
What about the rest coming across while Border Patrol is being taking care of the children™?

The children™ are a diversion and drain on resources by design.  They didn't spontaneously all decide to come here alone at the same time.
This was coordinated.
 
2014-07-22 08:23:21 PM  
Those kids have no appreciation for what they have at home. When I was a kid, I would have loved to see free beheadings.
 
2014-07-22 09:29:11 PM  

Saturn5: Yeah, it's a humanitarian crisis because of the children™.
What about the rest coming across while Border Patrol is being taking care of the children™?

The children™ are a diversion and drain on resources by design.  They didn't spontaneously all decide to come here alone at the same time.
This was coordinated.


www.acrdepos.com

/if you want a non-mocking response, back that shiat up with actual evidence
 
2014-07-23 03:25:39 AM  
Obama creates a problem, refuses to own up to it, and won't do anything about it but Perry is the stupid one for attempting to do something.
 
2014-07-23 03:56:38 AM  

randomjsa: Obama creates a problem, refuses to own up to it, and won't do anything about it but Perry is the stupid one for attempting to do something.


You've repeated this in a couple of threads now.
Can you explain how Obama created this problem?
Can you also explain how Perry's plan helps in any way?
 
2014-07-23 06:36:52 AM  

Fury Pilot: randomjsa: Obama creates a problem, refuses to own up to it, and won't do anything about it but Perry is the stupid one for attempting to do something.

You've repeated this in a couple of threads now.
Can you explain how Obama created this problem?
Can you also explain how Perry's plan helps in any way?


Isn't it more fun to point and laugh than to listen to what he has to say?
 
2014-07-23 08:58:24 AM  
This is the stupidest thing I have heard from a politician this year.

"One of the primary objections I have to the Cornyn-Cuellar border plan is its support for militarization of the southern border. "

You're concerned about militarization of the border but not concerned about the militarization of law enforcement?  You are OK with tanks on the streets of American cities?  As if militarization of the police has not gone way way too far you want to send the actual military out to patrol US cities.  The military did such a great job in iraq and afghanistan im sure they will do just as good finding drug dealers in poor neighborhoods in the US.
 
2014-07-23 07:20:33 PM  

randomjsa: Obama creates a problem, refuses to own up to it, and won't do anything about it but Perry is the stupid one for attempting to do something.


Explain.
 
2014-07-23 08:45:44 PM  

NateAsbestos: randomjsa: Obama creates a problem, refuses to own up to it, and won't do anything about it but Perry is the stupid one for attempting to do something.

Explain.


He won't, whoever he is.
 
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