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2014-07-22 11:56:42 AM
The less people who involve themselves in the process the less legitimate the process becomes.

The more people inform themselves and involve themselves in the process the more legitimate the process becomes and the more likely quality solutions to problems will be realized.

That noted, although Congress' approval numbers are down to pretty much staff, family and statistical error the number of unopposed and gerrymandered seats plus the advantage of incumbency in running a successful campaign will no doubt result in a high re-election rate.

All of which should seem counter intuitive but has sadly become almost pro forma by now.
 
2014-07-22 12:28:55 PM
Congress' numbers are down...and yet most will get reelected.

'Every congressman is bad..except mine'
 
2014-07-22 12:29:55 PM
'muricans are beginning to figure out who owns their CONgressmen.  and it isn't them.
 
2014-07-22 12:30:41 PM

Aar1012: Congress' numbers are down...and yet most will get reelected.

'Every congressman is bad..except mine'



Repaired.
 
2014-07-22 12:31:19 PM
This is why we can't have nice things.


People who think not voting teaches politicians a lesson are idiots.
 
2014-07-22 12:31:45 PM

Aar1012: Congress' numbers are down...and yet most will get reelected.

'Every congressman is bad..except mine'


My senators are terrible people who deserve to get their asses run out of Washington on a rail. Unfortunately the derp is strong in my state.
 
2014-07-22 12:32:03 PM
. . . which is exactly what the oligarchy wants.
 
2014-07-22 12:32:54 PM
The real issue is why voting isn't enabled in this thread.
 
2014-07-22 12:34:21 PM
I hope these apathetic voters understand that by not voting, they are keeping status quo. And by doing that, they are encouraging a shift in power from the 3 branches to 2 branches (Supremes and Executive). This is the very thing they piss and moan about hating- power by fewer and fewer people.
 
2014-07-22 12:35:03 PM

quatchi: The less people who involve themselves in the process the less legitimate the process becomes.

The more people inform themselves and involve themselves in the process the more legitimate the process becomes and the more likely quality solutions to problems will be realized.

That noted, although Congress' approval numbers are down to pretty much staff, family and statistical error the number of unopposed and gerrymandered seats plus the advantage of incumbency in running a successful campaign will no doubt result in a high re-election rate.

All of which should seem counter intuitive but has sadly become almost pro forma by now.


Compound that with a number of states where extremist governments have decided that obstructing people's ability to vote is a good thing.
 
2014-07-22 12:37:43 PM
I'll be voting against mine, but I live in Oklahoma 1.   So it's not like it's a hard choice to vote against my rep and senator.  Although Dr. Coburn is gone, so whatever.
 
2014-07-22 12:40:21 PM
If nobody voted in a Congressional election, including any of the candidates, does the incumbent win by default?
 
2014-07-22 12:42:10 PM

redqueenmeg: If nobody voted in a Congressional election, including any of the candidates, does the incumbent win by default?


I say we drown them. If they sink, they are honest humans. If they float, they are evil witches who must be drowned.
 
2014-07-22 12:45:43 PM
Cant we all now acknowledge that people no longer have faith in the system we have here in America? Our political and economical system are too toxic and need to go.
 
2014-07-22 12:46:14 PM

Nadie_AZ: redqueenmeg: If nobody voted in a Congressional election, including any of the candidates, does the incumbent win by default?

I say we drown them. If they sink, they are honest humans. If they float, they are evil witches who must be drowned.


OK by me, but I bet that isn't codified.
 
2014-07-22 12:56:45 PM
If you want to send your loved ones to another unfunded oil war in Iran, then vote GOP. Otherwise, vote Democratic. Or Reformed Wiccan. Or Hot Tatas. Anything but GOP.
 
2014-07-22 12:59:29 PM
Former Majority Leader Eric Cantor says hi.
 
2014-07-22 01:01:30 PM
This is a song that has been sung for ages.  The incumbent advantage is huuuuuge from both a funding and historic voting record.

Also, I wish they would let get rid of having to be registered to a party to vote in the primary.  It would certainly increase my sense of political engagement.
 
2014-07-22 01:07:49 PM

Aar1012: Congress' numbers are down...and yet most will get reelected.

'Every congressman is bad..except mine'


Addendum: I may not like my congressman, but at least he isn't so farking crazy he's mailing people asking for their urine.
 
2014-07-22 01:09:55 PM

Corvus: This is why we can't have nice things.


People who think not voting teaches politicians a lesson are idiots.


Agreed.

All it teaches the politicians is who they have to pander to in order to get votes, because if you aren't going to vote anyways, why should he risk alienating the people that do vote regularly by courting those that don't vote?
 
2014-07-22 01:21:42 PM

Linux_Yes: 'muricans are beginning to figure out who owns their CONgressmen.  and it isn't them.


Interesting artistic style you chose there

I must applaud this fine post
 
2014-07-22 01:21:56 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: If you want to send your loved ones to another unfunded oil war in Iran, then vote GOP.


...which is basically what you're doing if you don't vote.
 
2014-07-22 01:42:43 PM

brap: This is a song that has been sung for ages.  The incumbent advantage is huuuuuge from both a funding and historic voting record.

Also, I wish they would let get rid of having to be registered to a party to vote in the primary.  It would certainly increase my sense of political engagement.


But it would also be horrible undemocratic.

I suggest political parties would stop having primaries in response.
 
2014-07-22 01:44:39 PM

Aar1012: Congress' numbers are down...and yet most will get reelected.

'Every congressman is bad..except mine'


My congressman is an utter scumbag. But his Republican opponent is much, much worse. He's pretty safe, so I guess it's Green Party for me this year...
 
2014-07-22 02:02:54 PM
I have to play Devil's advocate a bit here. If all of these non-voters suddenly decided to vote one year, what makes anyone think they'd make any better decision than those who have elected the crop of representatives we have now? It's entirely possible they could do worse. There are plenty of low information voters going to the polls already. Would it really be that great to have 100 million (most likely) even lower information voters showing up and filling out ballots? Do you really think these current non-voters are going to miss part of their Keeping Up With the Kardashians marathon to figure out the likely impact or Prop 3 or how their incumbent has voted on trade issues?
 
2014-07-22 02:26:51 PM

Corvus: This is why we can't have nice things.


People who think not voting teaches politicians a lesson are idiots.


People who think people quit voting to teach politicians a lesson are idiots.

People quit voting because no candidate is worth voting for.

People quit voting because the system is rigged.

People quit voting because the system is broken beyond repair.
 
2014-07-22 02:32:40 PM
For the record, I've voted every two years for the last 22 years. For every step we've taken forward, we've taken two back. Voting is a waste of energy that accomplishes nothing. You can vote third party and watch as your fellow countrymen continue to vote R&D which accomplishes nothing, or vote D and slightly put off our national collapse or vote R and hasten said collapse.

Those are some shiattacular choices so I choose not to bother anymore.
 
2014-07-22 02:35:09 PM

chaoswolf: For the record, I've voted every two years for the last 22 years. For every step we've taken forward, we've taken two back. Voting is a waste of energy that accomplishes nothing. You can vote third party and watch as your fellow countrymen continue to vote R&D which accomplishes nothing, or vote D and slightly put off our national collapse or vote R and hasten said collapse.

Those are some shiattacular choices so I choose not to bother anymore.


Exactly

Soviet Union knew it was dying and it was in denial. Thats what we are going through right now. Our political system and our economy are too toxic to hold on to. We have completely stagnated. Its time for something new
 
2014-07-22 02:49:20 PM
It's cute, people still believe their votes count for something.
 
2014-07-22 02:54:17 PM

cman: Its time for something new


You sound like a guy with a plan. What's the 'something new'?
 
2014-07-22 03:03:56 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: cman: Its time for something new

You sound like a guy with a plan. What's the 'something new'?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-22 03:04:54 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: cman: Its time for something new

You sound like a guy with a plan. What's the 'something new'?


Meritocracy is the only proper system instead of our near Oligarch system
 
2014-07-22 03:06:24 PM
I'm going to vote for the first time in years.   Partly because where Im registered to vote is somewhat far away from where I actually live, but i'll get in the mix this time.
 
2014-07-22 03:09:21 PM
Plans are about as useful as voting. Unless you're sitting on millions of bucks to throw around you have no power in this country to change anything. And when you have millions the system is rigged in your favor so why would you want it to change?

And who is going to do what's necessary to get the system fixed when they have AC in the summer and food in their fat bellies? I've not had any cops busting down my door yet and as a white, heterosexual man making far more money than I should as a college dropout what oppression do I have to suffer?

Comfort breeds complacency and the powers that be have done a fine job of creating a very comfortable jail for us all.
 
2014-07-22 03:10:25 PM
So does this mean people have grown weary of being forced fed who "their candidates" are by the political machines in place? Good for them.

First, stop dancing to the tunes of others.
Second, but more importantly, come up with a new dance.
 
2014-07-22 03:12:39 PM
So, FTA, the end result will be that Republicans will pick up more seats, and congress will become even more hated and useless, because, as even their own scholars admit, Republicans are actually the problem.  It's the circle-jerk of life.
 
2014-07-22 03:15:10 PM

StopDaddy: Second, but more importantly, come up with a new dance.


Only thing I've figured out to do is get debt free and buy as little crap as possible. But as with voting, if I'm the only one doing it, it makes damn near no difference to the system.
 
2014-07-22 03:15:46 PM

chaoswolf: Plans are about as useful as voting. Unless you're sitting on millions of bucks to throw around you have no power in this country to change anything. And when you have millions the system is rigged in your favor so why would you want it to change?

And who is going to do what's necessary to get the system fixed when they have AC in the summer and food in their fat bellies? I've not had any cops busting down my door yet and as a white, heterosexual man making far more money than I should as a college dropout what oppression do I have to suffer?

Comfort breeds complacency and the powers that be have done a fine job of creating a very comfortable jail for us all.


Food is the key

When people don't have food in their bellies they rebel. We have no problems with that. We are unwilling to change the system because it is risky and we don't want to risk farking up our food supplies. We haven't hit rock-bottom yet, but its only a matter of time.
 
2014-07-22 03:21:45 PM
Aye, cman. I keep telling myself that the collapse is inevitable but it keeps not happening. No global killing cosmic event either.

/damnit
 
2014-07-22 03:23:41 PM

chaoswolf: Aye, cman. I keep telling myself that the collapse is inevitable but it keeps not happening. No global killing cosmic event either.

/damnit


Everything that has a beginning has an end. It is inevitable.
 
2014-07-22 03:27:12 PM
"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal."  ~  Traditional
 
2014-07-22 03:33:20 PM

cman: chaoswolf: Plans are about as useful as voting. Unless you're sitting on millions of bucks to throw around you have no power in this country to change anything. And when you have millions the system is rigged in your favor so why would you want it to change?

And who is going to do what's necessary to get the system fixed when they have AC in the summer and food in their fat bellies? I've not had any cops busting down my door yet and as a white, heterosexual man making far more money than I should as a college dropout what oppression do I have to suffer?

Comfort breeds complacency and the powers that be have done a fine job of creating a very comfortable jail for us all.

Food is the key

When people don't have food in their bellies they rebel. We have no problems with that. We are unwilling to change the system because it is risky and we don't want to risk farking up our food supplies. We haven't hit rock-bottom yet, but its only a matter of time.


It's not for lack of the Republicans trying.

They did cut food stamps, as well as let unemployment extensions lapse.  I swear they are actually trying to foment revolution sometimes.

Taking food out of the hands of those that need it most, and many of them will get re-elected.
 
2014-07-22 03:33:52 PM

quatchi: The less people who involve themselves in the process the less legitimate the process becomes.

The more people inform themselves and involve themselves in the process the more legitimate the process becomes and the more likely quality solutions to problems will be realized.

That noted, although Congress' approval numbers are down to pretty much staff, family and statistical error the number of unopposed and gerrymandered seats plus the advantage of incumbency in running a successful campaign will no doubt result in a high re-election rate.

All of which should seem counter intuitive but has sadly become almost pro forma by now.


On the other hand, people so stupid that they think that voting is pointless, not voting is the "best" they can do etc. are shortsighted imbeciles and not having their influence further stinking up the political process is a good thing.
 
2014-07-22 03:39:19 PM
Oh look, it's 'that' guy. I live with my mom, buddy.
 
2014-07-22 03:56:13 PM
LOL. Hadn't seen that filter hit yet.
 
2014-07-22 03:59:23 PM
And, no, Mr. Fark Filter, I haven't lived with my mom since I left home at 18.

/yea, I love my mom.
//and apple pie
///baseball is boring is fark
 
2014-07-22 04:05:11 PM
Pundits and the MSM have failed to mention on major metric that hasn't been in play in previous mid-term elections.  There are 14 states with impending cannabis legalization/regulation laws that will draw a larger portion of youth and liberal vote that don't normally show up to the mid-terms.
 
2014-07-22 04:36:57 PM

Alphakronik: Pundits and the MSM have failed to mention on major metric that hasn't been in play in previous mid-term elections.  There are 14 states with impending cannabis legalization/regulation laws that will draw a larger portion of youth and liberal vote that don't normally show up to the mid-terms.


www.redstate.com

"Dammit!"
 
2014-07-22 05:03:45 PM
What is the point in voting in this election? My district is gerrymandered to hell, so the person who goes to DC is always the one that wins the primary.

Unless there is an interesting ballot initiative, or some close state office election there is no reason for myself or many other people across the country to bother going out and voting.
 
2014-07-22 05:11:45 PM

AlHarris31: What is the point in voting in this election? My district is gerrymandered to hell, so the person who goes to DC is always the one that wins the primary.

Unless there is an interesting ballot initiative, or some close state office election there is no reason for myself or many other people across the country to bother going out and voting.


Exactly

Its rigged. Its about as useful as voting in the Soviet Union. You are given a selection. No real choice. What is the point of taking part of this system anymore?
 
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