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(Huffington Post)   MSNBC contributor points out media's biased coverage toward Israel; promptly has all future TV appearances canceled   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 232
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2014-07-22 10:16:35 AM
"We are disgustingly biased when it comes to this issue," said Jebreal, an Italian-Palestinian journalist with dual Italian and Israeli citizenship.

She is, of course, correct but it just doesn't do to say such things aloud where folks can hear you.

American coverage of the Israeli Palestinian conflict is now and has almost always been completely lopsided and more interesting in terms of who gets to speak than what is actually being said.

Hopefully she ends up with a gig on AJ after this.
 
2014-07-22 10:33:46 AM
That's almost as career killing as saying they run Hollywood.
 
2014-07-22 11:53:09 AM

Mugato: That's almost as career killing as saying they run Hollywood.


If the Israelies ran Hollywood we'd have more GI Jane movies.
 
2014-07-22 11:57:06 AM
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2014-07-22 12:09:34 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x800]
Others



Others = terrorists
 
2014-07-22 12:10:57 PM

The_Sponge: Others = terrorists


Women, children, civilians.
 
2014-07-22 12:16:28 PM
If you can't control the message, even after you've controlled the language of the debate, then maybe you should engage in a little introspection.
 
2014-07-22 12:18:28 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.



Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.

/Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.
 
2014-07-22 12:20:29 PM

The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.


If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?
 
2014-07-22 12:24:54 PM

The_Sponge: Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.


Damned strange how being turned off by dead children=support for one side over another.
 
2014-07-22 12:25:32 PM

doyner: Damned strange how being turned off by dead children=support for one side over another.


Right.
 
2014-07-22 12:26:17 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.



Why would I blame something so delicious?
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2014-07-22 12:32:37 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.

If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?


Hospitals that contain weapons...maybe they should love their child more than they hate Jews.
 
2014-07-22 12:34:42 PM
Children, not child
 
2014-07-22 12:37:26 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


They don't matter.  Genocide is OK when Israel does it.
 
2014-07-22 12:38:41 PM
Since when is self defense genocide? Do you expect Israel to sit there and just take it?
 
2014-07-22 12:39:35 PM

doyner: The_Sponge: Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.

Damned strange how being turned off by dead children=support for one side over another.


Don't you know? Anything short of 120% support for Israel is anti-Semitic and proves you love Hamas.
 
2014-07-22 12:39:37 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.

If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?

Hospitals that contain weapons...maybe they should love their child more than they hate Jews.


So, wait a sec:  Lobbing false accusations towards Palestinians is alright, but doing the same to Israel is blasphemous, am i right?

I really have no dog in the fight, I rather see the US withdraw all support towards Israel and act as a true intermediary.
 
2014-07-22 12:40:40 PM

The_Sponge: Since when is self defense genocide? Do you expect Israel to sit there and just take it?


You're right, they should just bomb all the civilians.
 
2014-07-22 12:40:56 PM
The real news was in the sidebar where Anna Paquin opens up about being bisexual.
 
2014-07-22 12:41:31 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.

If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?

Hospitals that contain weapons...maybe they should love their child more than they hate Jews.


I'm not defending Hamas here, to be clear. They're assholes of the highest order. I'm also not saying Israel doesn't have the right to defend themselves; they do.

What I'm doing is asking a simple question: what's the Palestinian man-on-the-street to do? He can't go build his own hospital somewhere. He can't go and try and remove the arms that Hamas put in the hospital - they'd shoot him. If he needs to go to the hospital, that need overrides everything else, so he goes to the hospital even when there are arms stored there.

The Palestinians aren't using human shields - their corrupt and immoral leaders are.
 
2014-07-22 12:41:49 PM

The_Sponge: Since when is self defense genocide? Do you expect Israel to sit there and just take it?


Step 1: Occupy then blockade Gaza until they become desperate and fight back
Step 2: Claim self defense and massacre hundreds to thousands of civilians
Step 3: Build some more settlements on Palestinian land
 
2014-07-22 12:42:43 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.

If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?

Hospitals that contain weapons...maybe they should love their child more than they hate Jews.


It's a small country, they run out if room.
 
2014-07-22 12:44:26 PM
Damn strange how conservatives keep supporting Israel.
maybe they should love their child more than they hate Palestinians.
Since when is self defense genocide? Do you expect Palestine to sit there and just take it?
 
2014-07-22 12:46:46 PM
what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?
 
2014-07-22 12:47:10 PM

Markus5: Since when is self defense genocide? Do you expect Palestine to sit there and just take it?


static.fjcdn.com
 
2014-07-22 12:47:56 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.

If I did would I be convinced it's okay to murder women and kids and bomb hospitals? Is that what convinced you?

Hospitals that contain weapons


BULLshiat.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28399292 
The Israeli military said it had targeted a cache of anti-tank missiles in the hospital's "immediate vicinity".

Now stop parroting the farking "stop-hitting-yourself" nonsense the Israelis are claiming. Hamas isn't killing these people, the IDF is.
 
2014-07-22 12:49:30 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.

/Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.


Just because you saw a few clips on memri doesn't make you an expert on the viewing patterns of Palestinian youths.  Is taught hatred a serious problem?  Of course it is.  Does that justify bulldozing houses and public facilities?  Isn't there an equally serious problem with Israeli youths, particularly children of settlers, being taught to hate Palestinians?
 
2014-07-22 12:50:29 PM

skyotter: what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?


Then you're an anti-Semite.
 
2014-07-22 12:51:13 PM

Stile4aly: skyotter: what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?

Then you're an anti-Semite.


But at least a pedantically accurate one.
 
2014-07-22 12:51:27 PM
I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
www.haaretz.com
 
2014-07-22 12:52:31 PM

Stile4aly: The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.

/Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.

Just because you saw a few clips on memri doesn't make you an expert on the viewing patterns of Palestinian youths.  Is taught hatred a serious problem?  Of course it is.  Does that justify bulldozing houses and public facilities?  Isn't there an equally serious problem with Israeli youths, particularly children of settlers, being taught to hate Palestinians?


Also having a problem with the deaths of civilians means you support Hamas or something.
 
2014-07-22 12:52:36 PM

monoski: The real news was in the sidebar where Anna Paquin opens up about being bisexual.


No kidding:  "there's people that think that monogamy and bisexuality are mutually exclusive."   She's clearly into trannies.  Hot or not?
 
2014-07-22 12:52:44 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Stile4aly: skyotter: what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?

Then you're an anti-Semite.

But at least a pedantically accurate one.


It just isn't the same having that card played since Tats wandered off. He was a true master.
 
2014-07-22 12:53:23 PM

timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]


That's a losing argument.  Anti-Semitism has meant "Anti-Jewish" for at least the last hundred years.  Trying to make "Semitism" mean "all people which trace back to ancient Semetic roots" is pointless.
 
2014-07-22 12:55:41 PM

Stile4aly: That's a losing argument.


no i am pretty sure "hey guys this war is mega depressing lets talk about boobs" is a winning argument
 
2014-07-22 12:55:45 PM

Stile4aly: timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]

That's a losing argument.  Anti-Semitism has meant "Anti-Jewish" for at least the last hundred years.  Trying to make "Semitism" mean "all people which trace back to ancient Semetic roots" is pointless.


Don't let facts get in the way of your bigotry.
 
2014-07-22 12:56:21 PM

sprawl15: Stile4aly: That's a losing argument.

no i am pretty sure "hey guys this war is mega depressing lets talk about boobs" is a winning argument


I like boobies.
 
2014-07-22 12:57:40 PM

The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.

/Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.


Blame Israel for their ham-fisted tactics.
 
2014-07-22 12:57:40 PM

Muta: Stile4aly: timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]

That's a losing argument.  Anti-Semitism has meant "Anti-Jewish" for at least the last hundred years.  Trying to make "Semitism" mean "all people which trace back to ancient Semetic roots" is pointless.

Don't let facts get in the way of your bigotry.


Wait, I'm a bigot now?  When did that happen?
 
2014-07-22 12:58:54 PM

timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]


I'm often amused when people pull out this timeworn and essentially meaningless talking point. The term "anti-semite" was coined by an avowed anti-semite to describe his hatred for Jews. We didn't ask for your hatred, and don't get all snarky when a term you created 150 years ago doesn't fit your current narrative.

Actually, we Jews have a lot of responsibility for the current increase in antisemitism. If we hadn't rubbed your nose for the past 60 years in your determined attempt to murder us, or your willingness to look the other way while others murdered us, or your refusal to allow Jews to emigrate even though you knew that they were being sent back to certain death, maybe you wouldn't be so cross with us. Oh well, live and learn...
 
2014-07-22 12:59:03 PM

cameroncrazy1984: The_Sponge: Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


Watch some Palestinian TV shows geared towards kids and get back to me.  And if you want to blame anyone for civilian deaths, blame Hamas.

/Damn strange how progressives keep supporting the Palestinians.

Blame Israel for their ham-fisted tactics.


This.
 
2014-07-22 12:59:07 PM
Solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is as simple as getting everyone on both sides to recognize they're in a Snowdrift, and game theory dictates their distrust of each other is hindering the optimal outcome.

And once you've accomplished that, start on the Space Elevator.
 
2014-07-22 12:59:34 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: The_Sponge: Others = terrorists

Women, children, civilians.


But children just love playing with white phosphorus!
 
2014-07-22 12:59:58 PM

quatchi: Hopefully she ends up with a gig on AJ after this.


Israel has declared AJ as one of the primary targets of their military campaigns. It probably won't be allowed to exist in the western world for much longer
 
2014-07-22 01:01:07 PM

Stile4aly: Muta: Stile4aly: timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]

That's a losing argument.  Anti-Semitism has meant "Anti-Jewish" for at least the last hundred years.  Trying to make "Semitism" mean "all people which trace back to ancient Semetic roots" is pointless.

Don't let facts get in the way of your bigotry.

Wait, I'm a bigot now?  When did that happen?


Your bigotry is probably due to your up bringing.
 
2014-07-22 01:01:10 PM

skyotter: what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?


Then no one will take you seriously even though you're basically right.
 
2014-07-22 01:02:20 PM

clambam: timujin: I'm often amused when people claim that anyone who says anything in support of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic.  Palestinians are Semitic people.

Also, FWIW, Rula Jabreal is hot.
[www.haaretz.com image 640x370]

I'm often amused when people pull out this timeworn and essentially meaningless talking point. The term "anti-semite" was coined by an avowed anti-semite to describe his hatred for Jews. We didn't ask for your hatred, and don't get all snarky when a term you created 150 years ago doesn't fit your current narrative.

Actually, we Jews have a lot of responsibility for the current increase in antisemitism. If we hadn't rubbed your nose for the past 60 years in your determined attempt to murder us, or your willingness to look the other way while others murdered us, or your refusal to allow Jews to emigrate even though you knew that they were being sent back to certain death, maybe you wouldn't be so cross with us. Oh well, live and learn...


He's going vertical! We're going ballistic, man!
 
2014-07-22 01:03:17 PM

timujin: Palestinians are Semitic people.

Semitic people because Semitic languages. From the Wiki for semitic people

This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Ahlamu, Akkadian (Assyrian-Babylonian), Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite (Phoenician/Carthaginian/Hebrew), Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic,

I imagine Hannibal crossing the Alps swearing in Carthaginian at the elephants, not knowing that the song would be reworked as Hava Nagilah.
 
2014-07-22 01:03:58 PM

LazarusLong42: skyotter: what if I think both sides are wrong at this point?

Then no one will take you seriously even though you're basically right.


I've been sayin' that shiat for years.
 
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