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(The Big Story)   Reusing needles, syringes, saline solution, and vials of pain medication at a West Virginia clinic is called a "possible unsafe practice." It's unknown what would constitute a "definite unsafe practice"   (bigstory.ap.org) divider line 51
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2014-07-21 07:49:41 PM  
Irrigating wounds with raw sewage?
 
2014-07-21 07:52:56 PM  
Trepanning with a rusty corkscrew?
 
2014-07-21 07:58:53 PM  
This is the home town of the paint huffing guy
 
2014-07-21 08:06:30 PM  

Torgo_of_Manos: This is the home town of the paint huffing guy


Go Warriors.
 
2014-07-21 08:17:56 PM  
snl.jt.org

Approves.
 
2014-07-21 08:24:15 PM  
How can something be 'possibly unsafe'? Any given action is either risky or not risky.
 
2014-07-21 08:29:05 PM  
How do you reuse saline?  Do you just bag up the pee from the bedpans?
 
2014-07-21 08:29:38 PM  
LIke WV is a third world country or something.

Oh. Right.
 
2014-07-21 08:30:21 PM  

airsupport: How do you reuse saline?  Do you just bag up the pee from the bedpans?

cf

: The Soldier in White, _Catch-22_
 
2014-07-21 08:37:42 PM  
Going to the VA hospital instead?
 
2014-07-21 08:48:24 PM  
Maybe they were just using them to inject into IV lines, still bad practice, but I'm guessing pretty safe.
 
2014-07-21 08:56:39 PM  

Calm: How can something be 'possibly unsafe'? Any given action is either risky or not risky.


False.

You live on a ball of radioactive lava surrounded by hyper-sonic projectiles careening through wild orbits around an out of control nuclear wildfire in a universe that's in the process of exploding to parts unknown. ALL actions are risky except immediate death, which will hopefully prevent you from dying again indefinitely.
 
2014-07-21 09:10:38 PM  
It's not as bad as it could be since everyone is related to each other.
 
2014-07-21 09:15:48 PM  
They're used to sharing needles.
 
2014-07-21 09:17:08 PM  
So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.
 
2014-07-21 09:17:46 PM  
You have got to be kidding me.
Don't theyhave rules/laws like everywhere else?
Not possibly, in the scheme of things let's go with definitely.
 
2014-07-21 09:18:54 PM  
So is this a *cough* "pain management" clinic [wink, wink] or an actual legitimate medical practice?

I'm thinking the former.
 
2014-07-21 09:21:01 PM  

Kit Fister: So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.


I'm thinking the saline they're talking about is the bottles used for cleaning open wounds, packing wounds, flushing out eyes, etc. Those are supposed to be discarded either immediately or within 24 hours.
 
2014-07-21 09:21:54 PM  

Kit Fister: So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.


^all this

And to answer Subby:
Mixing up the regular thermometers with the rectal ones?

/do those even exist post ear thermometer days?
 
2014-07-21 09:23:43 PM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Maybe they were just using them to inject into IV lines, still bad practice, but I'm guessing pretty safe.


I can see this. It isn't a great practice but most of the time the pressure of sterile fluid would prevent contamination of the needle. Potentially dangerous because blood can be pulled up into the IV tubing, but most of time not obviously so. People doing this are not the smartest and need some explicit retraining.

Now, if they were injecting directly into patients and reusing the needles, well, that is criminal.
 
2014-07-21 09:26:16 PM  
It's West Virginia - who cares?
 
2014-07-21 09:28:34 PM  
38.media.tumblr.com

Our clinic staff are professionally trained to handle all crisis.
 
2014-07-21 09:31:06 PM  
Right, that's the procedure done. Now, as is traditional in this hospital, before we close the patient's chest cavity we use it as a toilet. So. Who needs to go and who needs a laxative first?
 
2014-07-21 09:36:38 PM  
Working as a Hells Angels dentist.
 
2014-07-21 09:37:40 PM  

lindalouwho: Kit Fister: So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.

I'm thinking the saline they're talking about is the bottles used for cleaning open wounds, packing wounds, flushing out eyes, etc. Those are supposed to be discarded either immediately or within 24 hours.


Yeah, presumably they give the next guy the leftovers from the previous bottle.
 
2014-07-21 09:40:33 PM  

Fano: lindalouwho: Kit Fister: So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.

I'm thinking the saline they're talking about is the bottles used for cleaning open wounds, packing wounds, flushing out eyes, etc. Those are supposed to be discarded either immediately or within 24 hours.

Yeah, presumably they give the next guy the leftovers from the previous bottle.


In my day we mixed up salt water in a drinking glass, used it, and then ran it through the dishwasher.
 
2014-07-21 09:52:22 PM  

Fano: lindalouwho: Kit Fister: So, wait. Reusing syringes is bad, yes (unless they only ever went into IV lines, then, ehhhh autoclave the shiat out of them). How the fark do you re-use saline solution? Rehang the bag for someone else if it's not completely empty?

What stuck out to me, though, is, why the fark is "vials of pain medication" on the list? Like, are we talking about shiat poured out of an IV or something? Or are we talking about the actual bottles of shiat like morphine that come from the pharmacies? Because I'm pretty sure that they stick in the clean, sterile hypodermic (assuming one believes that doctor's offices and hospitals are truly sterile) into the thing, withdraw the dosage, and then shoot it into the patient or the patient's IV line. The don't jab someone and then use the same damn needle in the same bottle of meds for someone else.

But, assuming that reusing needles and vials of medication are in conjunction with each other, not separate cases, then I could see it.

I'm thinking the saline they're talking about is the bottles used for cleaning open wounds, packing wounds, flushing out eyes, etc. Those are supposed to be discarded either immediately or within 24 hours.

Yeah, presumably they give the next guy the leftovers from the previous bottle.


It's a clinic, not a hospital.
The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?
 
2014-07-21 10:04:10 PM  
Voting Republican?

/I win.
 
2014-07-21 10:04:52 PM  

Winston Smith '84: It's West Virginia - who cares?


Oh, and this.
 
2014-07-21 10:11:31 PM  

doglover: Calm: How can something be 'possibly unsafe'? Any given action is either risky or not risky.

False.

You live on a ball of radioactive lava surrounded by hyper-sonic projectiles careening through wild orbits around an out of control nuclear wildfire in a universe that's in the process of exploding to parts unknown. ALL actions are risky except immediate death, which will hopefully prevent you from dying again indefinitely.


Wow!  Guess it's time to build a basement under Mom's basement!?!?

/kidding ... kinda
 
2014-07-21 10:16:03 PM  

lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?


It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident
 
2014-07-21 10:20:58 PM  
Uh, going to that clinic.
 
2014-07-21 10:20:59 PM  
Vaccines, obviously. They cause the autisms and stuff.
 
2014-07-21 10:22:27 PM  

doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident


I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that
 
2014-07-21 10:35:27 PM  
It's only unsafe if the alternative is less safe
 
2014-07-21 10:37:07 PM  

lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that


How else to keep Big Bertha's running?
 
2014-07-21 10:46:38 PM  

Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?


Hmm I'm lost - I know Big Bertha's to be either German howitzers or a nickname for a steel mill blast furnace.
 
2014-07-21 10:47:19 PM  

Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?


And we're back to the pain meds.  See it always comes back to the pain meds, or the meth, or if it's a Saturday pain meds and meth.
 
2014-07-21 10:49:29 PM  

lindalouwho: Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?

Hmm I'm lost - I know Big Bertha's to be either German howitzers or a nickname for a steel mill blast furnace.


If you'd ever seen Big Bertha let a fart go you'd know she's a blast furnace.
 
2014-07-21 10:54:34 PM  

doomjesse: lindalouwho: Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?

Hmm I'm lost - I know Big Bertha's to be either German howitzers or a nickname for a steel mill blast furnace.

If you'd ever seen Big Bertha let a fart go you'd know she's a blast furnace.


Is she related to Large Marge?
 
2014-07-21 11:00:13 PM  

doomjesse: lindalouwho: Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?

Hmm I'm lost - I know Big Bertha's to be either German howitzers or a nickname for a steel mill blast furnace.

If you'd ever seen Big Bertha let a fart go you'd know she's a blast furnace.


Ohyeah, I've seen that.
Pittsburgher.

Oooh, now I get it!
 
2014-07-21 11:01:21 PM  
If we just get rid of those burdensome regulations and gubbmint red tape it will be cheaper, safer and all the patients will live to 120
 
2014-07-21 11:16:07 PM  

buds: Wow! Guess it's time to build a basement under Mom's basement!?!?


AND GET CLOSER TO THE RADIOACTIVE LAVA!?! ARE YOU MAD!!!

Seriously though, once you know the odds, you become a fatalistic drunk.

www.bubbleblabber.com
 
2014-07-21 11:27:44 PM  

lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: Fano: lindalouwho: doomjesse: lindalouwho: It's a clinic, not a hospital.The next guy might be a few days or more; how many patients would possibly need it?

It's pain meds, we're WV, you're lucky if its more than 5 minutes.

/Current WV resident

I was talking about the saline.

/but you knew that

How else to keep Big Bertha's running?

Hmm I'm lost - I know Big Bertha's to be either German howitzers or a nickname for a steel mill blast furnace.

If you'd ever seen Big Bertha let a fart go you'd know she's a blast furnace.

Ohyeah, I've seen that.
Pittsburgher.

Oooh, now I get it!


Strip club that used to be in the Badlands outside of Saint Albans, WV
 
2014-07-22 03:59:20 AM  
Definitely unsafe practice in West Va? Puttin' the moves on one of Cleetus Juggin's daughters withouten you givin' ole Cleetus a bottle of Jack Daniels first. Or a pouch of rollin' tobaccy.
 
2014-07-22 07:32:30 AM  
Owner of the Clinic:

s13.postimg.org

"But I cleaned them with my napkin."
 
2014-07-22 09:09:39 AM  
WV residents sharing needles while injecting pain medication?   Color me shocked.
 
2014-07-22 01:16:05 PM  

Torgo_of_Manos: This is the home town of the paint huffing guy



If by "home town" you mean random city over 150 miles north of, then you're right!!
 
2014-07-22 01:46:55 PM  

2KanZam: Torgo_of_Manos: This is the home town of the paint huffing guy


If by "home town" you mean random city over 150 miles north of, then you're right!!


Absolutely incorrect:

Tribett grew up in McMechen, the son of Robert Tribett, a railroad employee, and Patricia, a housewife. He has a brother and two sisters that remain part of his life. Tribett said his family was normal

Wheeling paper

His older brother used to bully me in elementary....


FTFA

West Virginia health officials found that, prior to November 2013, needles and syringes were reused at Valley Pain Management in McMechen to administer pain medications and saline solutions.
 
2014-07-22 01:58:01 PM  

Torgo_of_Manos: 2KanZam: Torgo_of_Manos: This is the home town of the paint huffing guy


If by "home town" you mean random city over 150 miles north of, then you're right!!

Absolutely incorrect:

Tribett grew up in McMechen, the son of Robert Tribett, a railroad employee, and Patricia, a housewife. He has a brother and two sisters that remain part of his life. Tribett said his family was normal. 

Wheeling paper

His older brother used to bully me in elementary....


FTFA

West Virginia health officials found that, prior to November 2013, needles and syringes were reused at Valley Pain Management in McMechen to administer pain medications and saline solutions.


Hmmm...I woulda bet my life he was from sissonsville (also has warriors).

I hang my head in Fark shame and deserve to feel bad
 
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