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(Sports Illustrated)   Tony Dungy doesn't think SEC Defensive Players of the Year are qualified to play in the NFL   (si.com ) divider line
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2014-07-21 02:24:51 PM  
Too distracting to be in the NFL - Gay players
Not too distracting to be in the NFL - Murderers, attempted murderers, animal abusers, spousal abusers
 
2014-07-21 02:31:57 PM  
Go fark yourself Tony Dungy. Go fark yourself.
 
2014-07-21 02:50:29 PM  

timujin: Too distracting to be in the NFL - Gay players
Not too distracting to be in the NFL - Murderers, attempted murderers, animal abusers, spousal abusers



Tigger: Go fark yourself Tony Dungy. Go fark yourself.


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2014-07-21 02:56:03 PM  
Dungy is such a self-righteous twit. I don't think Michael Sam is going to be a top-tier defensive player in the NFL, but saying "I wouldn't want the distraction" after engineering Michael Vick's comeback is ridiculous. Either the guy fits your draft needs or he doesn't.
 
2014-07-21 02:58:50 PM  
hee hee. Dummy.
 
2014-07-21 03:05:31 PM  
"Having a gay player will be a huge distraction because of people like me who will use every opportunity to talk about what a huge distraction having him around will be"
 
2014-07-21 03:12:45 PM  

BunkoSquad: "Having a gay player will be a huge distraction because of people like me who will use every opportunity to talk about what a huge distraction having him around will be"


Exactly. It's only a distraction so long as bigoted pieces of shiat keep saying it's a distraction. You will note how many of the players said they couldn't give a fark or "are not distracted" to put it in other words.

In sum: Go fark yourself Tony Dungy.
 
2014-07-21 03:31:33 PM  
Conservative Christian doesn't like homosexuals.  This is my shocked face.
 
2014-07-21 03:32:44 PM  
There are a lot of people who didn't think 2-time SEC Offensive Player of The Year Tim Tebow would succeed in the NFL. It seems they were right.
But that's not the point. The point is, never say you don't want to hire someone because you don't want to deal with the distraction. Honesty is never the best policy when it comes to employment practices. If you can't think up a lie for yourself, have your lawyer do it. That's what he's paid for.
 
2014-07-21 03:37:32 PM  
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2014-07-21 03:47:17 PM  
An evangelical Christian doesn't like gay people?!?!? I'm shocked.

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2014-07-21 03:55:50 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: There are a lot of people who didn't think 2-time SEC Offensive Player of The Year Tim Tebow would succeed in the NFL. It seems they were right.
But that's not the point. The point is, never say you don't want to hire someone because you don't want to deal with the distraction. Honesty is never the best policy when it comes to employment practices. If you can't think up a lie for yourself, have your lawyer do it. That's what he's paid for.


People didn't say Tim Tebow wouldn't succeed because he was a religious fundy. They said he wouldn't succeed because he wasn't good enough.

And you'll notice Tony Douchebag didn't say Sam wouldn't succeed. He said he wouldn't be willing to give him a chance. My guess is he thinks gay sex is icky. He might have to answer questions about icky stuff. He might even think about icky stuff. Can't have that.

So he is free to have an opinion. And we are free to note that he's an asshole.
 
2014-07-21 03:58:56 PM  
3bentchipmunks
He said he wouldn't be willing to give him a chance.


Because of distractions.

/just like Jesus would do
 
2014-07-21 04:17:51 PM  

timujin: Not too distracting to be in the NFL - Murderers, attempted murderers, animal abusers, spousal abusers


So, far as Dungy's coaching career goes, that would be Marvin Harrison and...some other dude?
 
2014-07-21 04:21:21 PM  
From 2006 to 2012, the SEC defensive players of the year were all drafted in the first round of the NFL draft the following year. Michael Sam was drafted in the 7th...it appears a lot more people other than Dungy thought he would be a distraction.

/the 2005 winner went in the 2nd round
//the 2004 winner went in the 1st  round
///the 2003 winner went in the 5th round
 
2014-07-21 04:21:32 PM  

EyeballKid: timujin: Not too distracting to be in the NFL - Murderers, attempted murderers, animal abusers, spousal abusers

So, far as Dungy's coaching career goes, that would be Marvin Harrison and...some other dude?


He was pretty big in Mike Vick's return to the league
 
2014-07-21 04:21:43 PM  
Maybe Tony should go coach Special Teams for Minnesota.
 
2014-07-21 04:22:44 PM  
I hope Dungy gets fired from his media gigs for his homophobia being too big of a distraction
 
2014-07-21 04:23:50 PM  
Hey, Tony.  It's a good thing a guy by the name of Branch Rickey didn't feel the same way that you do about "distractions".

Tony Dungy earns the "Douchebag of the Day" award.
 
2014-07-21 04:24:48 PM  
he should've taken the USC job....
 
2014-07-21 04:25:18 PM  

assburp: EyeballKid: timujin: Not too distracting to be in the NFL - Murderers, attempted murderers, animal abusers, spousal abusers

So, far as Dungy's coaching career goes, that would be Marvin Harrison and...some other dude?

He was pretty big in Mike Vick's return to the league


True, but he never coached Vick. He coached Marvin Harrison and never once lamented about "things happening." It's good to know Dungy's actual values.


/I bet, given the proper context, Tony Dungy would tell you how much he values human life. That would be a great time to laugh directly in his face.
 
2014-07-21 04:25:57 PM  
While they won't qualify to go to college on pure academics, they do qualify for the NOD.
 
2014-07-21 04:26:33 PM  
How does auto correct not know NFL
 
2014-07-21 04:27:58 PM  
There was a time when coaches responded to the proposed racial integration of professional sports saying they "wouldn't want to deal with all of it" because "things will happen."
 
2014-07-21 04:28:01 PM  
How cowardly of him.
 
2014-07-21 04:28:16 PM  

Nabb1: Dungy is such a self-righteous twit. I don't think Michael Sam is going to be a top-tier defensive player in the NFL, but saying "I wouldn't want the distraction" after engineering Michael Vick's comeback is ridiculous. Either the guy fits your draft needs or he doesn't.


To be fair, the dude was pitching a reality show before even the first training camp.
 
2014-07-21 04:28:50 PM  
This makes me sad. I really like Dungy and I am grateful for what he accomplished with the Bucs.
 
2014-07-21 04:29:04 PM  

Rann Xerox: Hey, Tony.  It's a good thing a guy by the name of Branch Rickey didn't feel the same way that you do about "distractions".

Tony Dungy earns the "Douchebag of the Day" award.


I'm all in favor of Michael Sam and wish him nothing but the best, but in terms of talent and ability in the sport, I don't think he's Jackie Robinson. Branch Rickey wanted Robinson on the Dodgers because he was a damned great ballplayer.
 
2014-07-21 04:30:58 PM  

MyRandomName: Nabb1: Dungy is such a self-righteous twit. I don't think Michael Sam is going to be a top-tier defensive player in the NFL, but saying "I wouldn't want the distraction" after engineering Michael Vick's comeback is ridiculous. Either the guy fits your draft needs or he doesn't.

To be fair, the dude was pitching a reality show before even the first training camp.


Admittedly, I lost a bit of respect for him when I found that out. It made that moment he shared with his boyfriend seem like viral marketing. It wasn't enough to make me turn anti-Sam, but it was kind of disappointing. Just because you respect someone doesn't mean they don't let you down from time to time.
 
2014-07-21 04:32:05 PM  

Mark Ratner: From 2006 to 2012, the SEC defensive players of the year were all drafted in the first round of the NFL draft the following year. Michael Sam was drafted in the 7th...it appears a lot more people other than Dungy thought he would be a distraction.

/the 2005 winner went in the 2nd round
//the 2004 winner went in the 1st  round
///the 2003 winner went in the 5th round


Nobody was projecting Sam as a 1st rounder before he came out. Nobody. Everything I'd read at the time projected him 4-5th round.
 
2014-07-21 04:33:21 PM  

Mark Ratner: From 2006 to 2012, the SEC defensive players of the year were all drafted in the first round of the NFL draft the following year. Michael Sam was drafted in the 7th...it appears a lot more people other than Dungy thought he would be a distraction.

/the 2005 winner went in the 2nd round
//the 2004 winner went in the 1st  round
///the 2003 winner went in the 5th round


2003 Chad Lavalais:  bust
2004 david pollack:  bust
2005 demeco ryans : good player
 
2014-07-21 04:33:34 PM  
That's actually not at all what he said. How odd for a farker to misrepresent the content of TFA.
 
2014-07-21 04:34:00 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Mark Ratner: From 2006 to 2012, the SEC defensive players of the year were all drafted in the first round of the NFL draft the following year. Michael Sam was drafted in the 7th...it appears a lot more people other than Dungy thought he would be a distraction.

/the 2005 winner went in the 2nd round
//the 2004 winner went in the 1st  round
///the 2003 winner went in the 5th round

Nobody was projecting Sam as a 1st rounder before he came out. Nobody. Everything I'd read at the time projected him 4-5th round.


I heard as high as 3rd I think. But no, not 1st.
 
2014-07-21 04:34:44 PM  

mikaloyd: 2004 david pollack:  bust


As in busted vertebra.
 
2014-07-21 04:38:00 PM  
Save Us Breesus?
 
2014-07-21 04:38:41 PM  
OW! & mikaloyd:True, but doesn't it seem odd he would fall to the 7th? There are busts in every round, but I thought it was strange he was being projected so low to begin with.
 
2014-07-21 04:40:37 PM  

obeymatt: An evangelical Christian doesn't like gay people?!?!? I'm shocked.

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Then he still wonders why his son offed himself...

/aisle seat
//non-smoking
 
2014-07-21 04:41:30 PM  

mikaloyd: 2004 david pollack: bust


Oh yeah, David Pollack is totally a busted NFL draft choice. I mean, everyone and their dead grandma knew that he was surely going to fracture one of his cervical vertebrae during a game against the Browns in his second season, and yet the farking Bungles audaciously drafted him anyway! What the hell were they thinking?
 
2014-07-21 04:41:35 PM  
Dungy, who is now an analyst for NBC, said he would not have selected Sam because he wouldn't have wanted to deal with the distractions and the amount of attention the selection would get.

Um... What distractions? To be fair, outside of a few articles over the last few months, the whole thing has been a pretty big non-issue.

And wait a second! Aren't you the guy who's been nothing but positive about Tim Tebow, who has been nothing but a media distraction for not just the teams he has been on, but also for teams he hasn't been on, like the Jacksonville Jaguars? How the hell do you square that away with your desire to avoid distractions?

C'mon maaaaan.
 
2014-07-21 04:41:58 PM  

Mark Ratner: OW! & mikaloyd:True, but doesn't it seem odd he would fall to the 7th? There are busts in every round, but I thought it was strange he was being projected so low to begin with.


To fall two rounds? Not really. He didn't stand out at all at the NFL combine and finished in the middle of the pack among all DEs. He was already getting some negative vibes about being a bit undersized and a touch slow. I mean, it might have come into play some, but I don't think that had a lot to do with him falling from 5th to 7th.
 
2014-07-21 04:43:01 PM  

This Looks Fun: Ow! That was my feelings!: Mark Ratner: From 2006 to 2012, the SEC defensive players of the year were all drafted in the first round of the NFL draft the following year. Michael Sam was drafted in the 7th...it appears a lot more people other than Dungy thought he would be a distraction.

/the 2005 winner went in the 2nd round
//the 2004 winner went in the 1st  round
///the 2003 winner went in the 5th round

Nobody was projecting Sam as a 1st rounder before he came out. Nobody. Everything I'd read at the time projected him 4-5th round.

I heard as high as 3rd I think. But no, not 1st.


And that was before the combine, at which his measurements and workouts sucked by all accounts.

Dude is a classic tweener -- too slow to be a linebacker, too small to be an every-down end, marginal explosiveness for a pass-rush specialist. It happens; lots of guys are great college players without NFL skillsets. I hope he succeeds (though not too much because he plays for a division rival of my favorite team, and one that already has a scary-good pass rush), but objectively he's not a high-end NFL prospect. He does have a great motor and that's what will have to carry him.
 
2014-07-21 04:43:42 PM  

Mark Ratner: OW! & mikaloyd:True, but doesn't it seem odd he would fall to the 7th? There are busts in every round, but I thought it was strange he was being projected so low to begin with.


Oh, the 'distraction' angle might very well have cause him to fall in the draft, not denying that. Some teams likely did pass because of it and others held off for bargain hunting reasons.
 
2014-07-21 04:44:12 PM  

Nabb1: Branch Rickey wanted Robinson on the Dodgers because he was a damned great ballplayer.


Michael Sam's damned great at playing with balls, too.
 
2014-07-21 04:45:03 PM  
I kind of wanted the Patriots to draft him, just so some idiot from the press who doesn't normally cover football would have ended up in a press conference and made the mistake of asking Belichick a question about it, because you know if there is one coach who would give no farks about that at all and tell a reporter so to his face, it's him.
 
2014-07-21 04:46:09 PM  

Nabb1: Rann Xerox: Hey, Tony.  It's a good thing a guy by the name of Branch Rickey didn't feel the same way that you do about "distractions".

Tony Dungy earns the "Douchebag of the Day" award.

I'm all in favor of Michael Sam and wish him nothing but the best, but in terms of talent and ability in the sport, I don't think he's Jackie Robinson. Branch Rickey wanted Robinson on the Dodgers because he was a damned great ballplayer.


No way was I comparing Michael Sam to Jackie Robinson.  Just like Rickey did with Robinson, the St. Louis Rams see something in Michael Sam, so they drafted him.

Michael Sam will make it or not make it based on his abilities, just like everyone else and just the way it should be.  But when a former NFL football coach comes out and spouts, "I wouldn't want to deal with the distractions", which is just code words for "He's gay and I don't need the headaches", that pisses me off.

So, to repeat:  Tony Dungy earns the "Douchebag of the Day" award.
 
2014-07-21 04:46:40 PM  

Nabb1: Mark Ratner: OW! & mikaloyd:True, but doesn't it seem odd he would fall to the 7th? There are busts in every round, but I thought it was strange he was being projected so low to begin with.

To fall two rounds? Not really. He didn't stand out at all at the NFL combine and finished in the middle of the pack among all DEs. He was already getting some negative vibes about being a bit undersized and a touch slow. I mean, it might have come into play some, but I don't think that had a lot to do with him falling from 5th to 7th.


Well then, it must've been a down year for standout defensive players in the SEC last year. A statistical anomaly.
 
2014-07-21 04:47:21 PM  
Does Michael Sam make loud, silly noises during film sessions? When coach addresses the team, does Sam sneak up behind him and make condescending pantomime gestures? Is that what makes him a "distraction"?
 
2014-07-21 04:47:52 PM  

Mark Ratner: OW! & mikaloyd:True, but doesn't it seem odd he would fall to the 7th? There are busts in every round, but I thought it was strange he was being projected so low to begin with.


His main weakness according to most is that hes too small to be a lineman and too big to be a linebacker. And he is not blazingly fast. Thats not to say he will be a bust but it probably means that to be effective they need to use him more as a ituational player rather than every down or at least use him in in ways and surrounded by players who allow his strengths to show and cover his weaknesses. If I were betting on what happens to him this year, since the Rams should have decent lline and linebackiers already, I would bet that he lands on the practice squad this year until somebody gets injured I would also bet that causes a ruckous but not as big a ruckous as if they cut him. I think the Rams drafted him hoping for eventual upside more than for playing his first year.
 
2014-07-21 04:48:55 PM  
Everyone saying they hate Dungy for saying this makes you seem kind of judgy...
 
2014-07-21 04:49:42 PM  

Super Chronic: He does have a great motor


Timeout, need a ruling from the judges here:

I was under the impression that "high-motor guy" was a description reserved for... different kinds of athletes than Michael Sam.

You know the guys I'm talking about. Grinders. Effort guys. Guys with the intangibles, whose accomplishments don't always show up on the stat sheet. Coach's sons.
 
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