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(Yahoo)   Iraqi Catholic leader says ISIS is "Worse than Genghis Khan," which if you know the history of that region is the local equivalent of saying he is worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot formed into a Voltron of Evil   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 89
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2014-07-21 12:10:22 PM  
strangest result from the mere 17 pictures return when doing a GIS for "Voltron of Evil":
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2014-07-21 12:16:27 PM  
Muslims at the service held up leaflets declaring "I am Iraqi, I am Christian", some writing it on their shirts.


I was told that no Muslims ever speak out against these kinds of acts, as required by each and every group when someone who claims to be an affiliate does something horrible.  Therefore, this story must be completely wrong.
 
2014-07-21 12:20:53 PM  
And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"
 
2014-07-21 12:50:12 PM  
A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

And we all contribute to this crap because we continue to buy stuff made from oil. Lots of stuff. Global supply chain stuff.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.
 
2014-07-21 01:03:34 PM  

Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"


When someone asks you to trade with them you say "YES"!
 
2014-07-21 01:23:09 PM  

b2theory: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

When someone asks you to trade with them you say "YES"!


I literally LOL'ed, well played, well played indeed.
 
2014-07-21 01:44:58 PM  
If I don't know the history of that region, what does it mean Subby?

/stupid qualifications are stupid
 
2014-07-21 01:45:09 PM  

Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"


But Doombreed had to be born.
 
2014-07-21 01:45:14 PM  
img.fark.net

MECHA SHIVA!! MECHA SHIVA!!
 
2014-07-21 01:45:15 PM  

bdub77: A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

And we all contribute to this crap because we continue to buy stuff made from oil. Lots of stuff. Global supply chain stuff.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.


Too much oil was used to produce the device you just used to post that and yet you haven't killed yourself yet, hypocrite.
 
2014-07-21 01:45:19 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

This is a dude who, 700 years ago, totally ravaged China, and who, we were told, 2 hours ago, totally ravaged Oshman's Sporting Goods.
 
2014-07-21 01:45:20 PM  

Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"


Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?
 
2014-07-21 01:45:30 PM  
 
2014-07-21 01:47:27 PM  
For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.
 
2014-07-21 01:49:17 PM  
It's not just the Voltron of Evil, it's the Vehicle Voltron of Evil.
 
2014-07-21 01:49:34 PM  
Are we all seriously going to let this guy talk that kind of shiat about our great great great (a few more greats) grandfather?
 
2014-07-21 01:49:35 PM  

bdub77: A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

And we all contribute to this crap because we continue to buy stuff made from oil. Lots of stuff. Global supply chain stuff.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.


People, we is not wrapped tight.
 
2014-07-21 01:50:06 PM  
i.imgur.com
subby is somewhat correct, voltron in its original japanese incarnation (golion and dairugger xv) were far more violent than the watered down voltron of our youth.
 
2014-07-21 01:50:07 PM  
but who's the fifth that will form the head?
 
2014-07-21 01:52:27 PM  

jaybeezey: bdub77: A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

And we all contribute to this crap because we continue to buy stuff made from oil. Lots of stuff. Global supply chain stuff.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.

Too much oil was used to produce the device you just used to post that and yet you haven't killed yourself yet, hypocrite.


See? Everyone, so dumb. My computer is made entirely from compostable recycled plastics and metal and is powered by a solar array made out of reverse osmosis organic recycled cow dung. The keys themselves power a device that converts carbon dioxide back into oxygen while sequestering carbon. The more I post the more clean air is generated. Birds are chirping around me as I speak.
 
2014-07-21 01:52:32 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.


How did that work?
 
2014-07-21 01:52:50 PM  

GRCooper: If I don't know the history of that region, what does it mean Subby?

/stupid qualifications are stupid


The Mongols are well known for dominating Asia. Many people don't also know that they brought down an Islamic Caliphate and slaughtered millions in what is now Iraq.
 
2014-07-21 01:53:12 PM  
Whoa now subby, Imma let you finish but Timurlane was the greatest monster of all time -- OF ALL TIME!  He used to build pyramids out of the skulls of the people who lived in the cities he conquered.
 
2014-07-21 01:53:15 PM  
Slaughter on an Epic scale all in the name of God...won't be joining that galactic community anytime soon!

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2014-07-21 01:54:46 PM  
These days, you can't simply tell people that you're going to war because you want to build an empire. It has to be all about justice and shiat. These are tough times for the modern conqueror.
 
2014-07-21 01:55:03 PM  

rockymountainrider: but who's the fifth that will form the head?


Obama, obviously.

/ they needed the diversity....

// I keed, I keed
 
2014-07-21 01:55:21 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-21 01:56:08 PM  

plcow: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?


Probably somewhere that only cared Ghengis Khan:

1. Was successful
2. Was not from an evil Eurocentric oppressor culture
3. Was not spreading a Judeo-Christian religion

Therefore, he was a true multicultural hero who invented diplomacy, literacy, and all the other things that are wonderful about liberal governments.

/went to public school too
 
2014-07-21 01:57:28 PM  

cgraves67: GRCooper: If I don't know the history of that region, what does it mean Subby?

/stupid qualifications are stupid

The Mongols are well known for dominating Asia. Many people don't also know that they brought down an Islamic Caliphate and slaughtered millions in what is now Iraq.


Which does nothing to change the meaning of subbys tortured english.

"If A then B, else B"
 
2014-07-21 02:01:31 PM  

rockymountainrider: but who's the fifth that will form the head?


Answer: the Democrat/Republican nominee in 2016 (please circle your choice with the crayon provided)

/note: crayon is not edible
 
2014-07-21 02:03:49 PM  

machoprogrammer: Jaden Smith First of His Name: For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.

How did that work?


The Mongols had a thing about drawing noble blood, so they had creative ways of killing nobles. In this one, the nobles were secured to the ground and a wooden floor was built on top of them. Then the Mongols had a feast on the floor until they crushed everyone underneath.
 
2014-07-21 02:04:33 PM  

Magorn: Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"


And for having such a cuddly name. Maybe that's why nobody every saw it coming.
 
2014-07-21 02:04:58 PM  

plcow: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?


Ate a Mongolian grill the other day named "Genghis Kahn's"   I sincerely doubt you'd see a restaurant called The Stalin Shack or Hitler's Hideaway, but we seem to have more tolerance for Genghis even though he was certainly in the same weight class loss of life wise
 
2014-07-21 02:08:06 PM  

Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"


And what is the source for these ludicrously precise laughably exaggerated interesting estimates?
 
2014-07-21 02:08:59 PM  

machoprogrammer: Jaden Smith First of His Name: For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.

How did that work?


As a General Contractor, I can assure you firsthand that it doesn't work well at all, particularly here in earthquake country.
 
2014-07-21 02:09:38 PM  

rockymountainrider: but who's the fifth that will form the head?


Good, I'm not the only one who noticed that.
 
2014-07-21 02:10:45 PM  

Magorn: Ate a Mongolian grill the other day named "Genghis Kahn's"


Was he related to Madeline?
 
2014-07-21 02:10:48 PM  

plcow: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?


A place where they taught correct history I assume.
 
2014-07-21 02:13:39 PM  

bdub77: jaybeezey: bdub77: A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

And we all contribute to this crap because we continue to buy stuff made from oil. Lots of stuff. Global supply chain stuff.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.

Too much oil was used to produce the device you just used to post that and yet you haven't killed yourself yet, hypocrite.

See? Everyone, so dumb. My computer is made entirely from compostable recycled plastics and metal and is powered by a solar array made out of reverse osmosis organic recycled cow dung. The keys themselves power a device that converts carbon dioxide back into oxygen while sequestering carbon. The more I post the more clean air is generated. Birds are chirping around me as I speak.


Why are you still breathing? Look either you think there should be fewer people in the world and are prepared to do something about by starting with the man in the mirror, or you are a just spouting off to look good and don't really care.

By your own standards, you should be cheering ISIS on as they thin out the population of the region helping to bring balance to the populace.

You're probably one of these people popping about gun control all of the time when they are used to thin the herd. You need to get your priorities straight mister.
beta.images.theglobeandmail.com
 
2014-07-21 02:14:33 PM  
For anyone interested in learning more about Genghis Knan you should check out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast called Wrath of the Kahns. It might be the greatest thing to come out of this whole internet age.

/seriously
 
2014-07-21 02:16:01 PM  

Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..


Khan is worshiped in Mongolia, however, like Best Korea's Dear Leader, or how Lenin was in the Soviet Union.  Statues of him all over their capital city.  Pretty much everything in the country is named after him, from their international airport to banks ("XAAH" is how they write "Khan") to brands of vodka.
 
2014-07-21 02:17:09 PM  
Adult Swim needs to get on this, I'd watch Voltron of Evil the cartoon, make it like pinky and brain where they try to take over the world every episode only to fail hilariously.
 
2014-07-21 02:18:09 PM  

Magorn: plcow: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?

Ate a Mongolian grill the other day named "Genghis Kahn's"   I sincerely doubt you'd see a restaurant called The Stalin Shack or Hitler's Hideaway, but we seem to have more tolerance for Genghis even though he was certainly in the same weight class loss of life wise


Give it a few years. There will be a brat stand called Adolf's Sausage fest.
 
2014-07-21 02:19:22 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: machoprogrammer: Jaden Smith First of His Name: For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.

How did that work?

The Mongols had a thing about drawing noble blood, so they had creative ways of killing nobles. In this one, the nobles were secured to the ground and a wooden floor was built on top of them. Then the Mongols had a feast on the floor until they crushed everyone underneath.


Holy fark. Were they laying down or standing?
 
2014-07-21 02:19:41 PM  

plcow: Magorn: And yes, given that after they took they city the Mongols are reported to have killed all 2 million residents of Baghdad BY HAND  literally lined them up and chopped their heads off...50 per mongol soldier,  it is likely that Genghis Khan is regarded in a somewhat darker light in the Islamic world than the grudging affection we have for him in the west..

Especially when you consider that other estimates say that they also killed 1,600,000  at the sack of  Harat, and 1,747,000 at  Nishapur,that's roughly 8 million people back when killing even 1 million people took some real determination and effort.  Hugalu Khan is pretty much personally the answer to the question "How did the Islamic world go from being the most advanced civilization on earth to a cultural backwater so quickly?"

Grudging affection?  Where the heck did you go to high school?


No he's absolutely right. Genghis is seen as a most horrific figure in that part of the world. In comparison we, who suffered not at the hands of the Mongols (unless you're eastern European, and 800 years old) view him only as a distant historical figure, which makes it very easy to detach ourselves from the slaughter. I have a grudging admiration for what he achieved. Wouldn't want to meet him, though.

However I'm not sure about those numbers. I'm pretty sure London in the 19th century was the first city to reach 1 million inhabitants after Rome was sacked. I'm 100% sure the 2m slaughtered is Muslim propaganda. Like the Persian armies that drank rivers dry, and arrows that blotted out the sun in Herodotus, the real figure is probably closer to 100,000. But yeah, add all the places together and you get a staggering number.

In that part of the world they don't like Alexander the Great either. They believe he was a bad person, but that's just because no one likes to be conquered. Anyway, Alexander wept when he realised there were no more worlds to conquer, Genghis Khan just kept going, because no river or mountain was going to stop him. Only death could stop him.
 
2014-07-21 02:19:43 PM  

Next week's Tom Sawyer: [i.imgur.com image 300x335]


You lie! In Iraq there was life!  A fair chance...
 
2014-07-21 02:19:57 PM  

bdub77: A lot of people think population control is a brutal dystopian concept, but frankly I don't trust humanity anymore. Sure, ISIS emerged from fundamentalist sects but that's it's own system of control - you can brainwash people when they think they will have a better life under a different regime. This is the result of inequality, overpopulation, and overconsumption. Think about all the genocides that have occurred since Khan. Humanity hasn't changed.

That being said, Catholicism is the same system of control, it just points in a slightly nicer direction in today's society - in essence, "let people sh*t all over you because Jesus did". Ignoring the fact that 700 years ago Catholics were doing some really nasty sh*t to other people in the name of faith.

So dumb. Everyone, so dumb.


The Chaldean Catholics don't share that history, so you're only showing off how stupid and bigoted you are. The Chaldeans (or their predecessors) have lived under Muslim domination since Islam moved into Iraq. They later re-established ties with the Pope of Rome, but that didn't change their own local history.
 
2014-07-21 02:20:53 PM  
Voltron requires a minimum of five components. I would suggest Saddam Hussein for No. 5, for contextual lulz alone.
 
2014-07-21 02:21:39 PM  

jaybeezey: Why are you still breathing? Look either you think there should be fewer people in the world and are prepared to do something about by starting with the man in the mirror, or you are a just spouting off to look good and don't really care.

By your own standards, you should be cheering ISIS on as they thin out the population of the region helping to bring balance to the populace.

You're probably one of these people popping about gun control all of the time when they are used to thin the herd. You need to get your priorities straight mister.


I'm not adding to the population and I'm not in favor of violence. Draw your own conclusions, dumbass.
 
2014-07-21 02:24:42 PM  

machoprogrammer: Jaden Smith First of His Name: machoprogrammer: Jaden Smith First of His Name: For a guy that would build lodges where the foundations were made of living prisoners, it's nuts to think that he was more politically progressive than modern ISIS.

How did that work?

The Mongols had a thing about drawing noble blood, so they had creative ways of killing nobles. In this one, the nobles were secured to the ground and a wooden floor was built on top of them. Then the Mongols had a feast on the floor until they crushed everyone underneath.

Holy fark. Were they laying down or standing?


They would have to be laying down, I think, otherwise the floor would be really unstable as noble legs buckled. Hard to throw a good party when the floor keeps tipping.
 
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