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(Uproxx)   This week in "John Oliver makes you better at cocktail parties," Mr. Oliver explores the totally f--ked state of the prison system. Complete with a muppet sing-a-long   (uproxx.com ) divider line
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2014-07-21 02:45:53 PM  
3 votes:

LegacyDL: Here's my problem with show's like Oliver's, Daily Show, Maher, etc: Peeking out from your Ivory Tower doesn't really help. Calling out the fact that the Emperor doesn't wear any clothes doesn't help. Shows like these simply serve as court jesters, where they can make fun of the establishment because they're clowns but any effort to be serious results in their own downfall (Maher and 9/11 for example).

If these hosts are serious in their endeavors they need to cut it with the dark humor. Life isn't a Monty Python sketch. If they're so concerned about the public welfare or pointing out wrongs they need to climb off their intellectual mountain and do something. Sitting around the campfire exchanging ideologies isn't cutting it anymore.


Here's my problem with posts like yours in the comments section of Fark. It's not really helping anything. All you are doing is commenting about something anonymously. No one knows you or cares what you think and you aren't changing anything. Life isn't a bulletin board. Something something, life is pointless, etc.

amirite?
2014-07-21 02:31:04 PM  
3 votes:
The Internet is not for John Oliver and his muppets.
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2014-07-21 04:54:48 PM  
1 vote:

LegacyDL: Here's my problem with show's like Oliver's, Daily Show, Maher, etc: Peeking out from your Ivory Tower doesn't really help. Calling out the fact that the Emperor doesn't wear any clothes doesn't help. Shows like these simply serve as court jesters, where they can make fun of the establishment because they're clowns but any effort to be serious results in their own downfall (Maher and 9/11 for example).

If these hosts are serious in their endeavors they need to cut it with the dark humor. Life isn't a Monty Python sketch. If they're so concerned about the public welfare or pointing out wrongs they need to climb off their intellectual mountain and do something. Sitting around the campfire exchanging ideologies isn't cutting it anymore.


....says the person posting on Fark.
2014-07-21 04:29:06 PM  
1 vote:

Cast: Modern urban culture has a large share of blame. When you are on the 2nd generation of glorifying a criminal lifestyle over 'workin for the man', you are going to have high unemployment and crime rates. Thug life emulation has a large share of the responsibility for the current state of affairs.

I blame NWA. The world needs more Pharrel Williams "Happy" and less Dre "Natural Born Killaz".

But hey, it's the white man keepin ya'll down, encouraging you to murder each other, right?


Lol, people actually believe this garbage.
2014-07-21 04:18:14 PM  
1 vote:
Daily Show viewers are one of the of the most easily riled and most reflexively defensive subgroups of fandom I've ever seen on the internet.  That is of course outside of the most reflexively defensive group of fandom, which are Rush fans.

(Both the caterwauling capon-led Canadian crap-rock trio and the flabby radio derp-merchant apply equally.)
2014-07-21 04:16:48 PM  
1 vote:

Cynicism101: Jim_Callahan: twenty goddamned percent chance of being sent to jail/prison at some point.

Here are some numbers showing just how racist the whole system is: www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/Llgsfp.pdf

So, 28.5% chance for black men, 4.4% for white men. I'm definitely going to pull this stat out next time someone tells me systemic racism is dead.


Society is to blame.  We allowed progressive statists to destroy the African-American family through it's "war" on poverty, and now we are reaping the reward.
2014-07-21 04:05:55 PM  
1 vote:

Cast: I blame NWA.


Really?  You blame a band that disbanded 25 years ago?  You're basically blaming Daddy Day Care.

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2014-07-21 03:57:56 PM  
1 vote:

wesmon: bunner: Print this out and tape it to your fridge.   It is the only extant large scale truth in America.

I mean, this.  Period

"NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MATTERS MORE IN AMERICA THAN MOVING MONEY AROUND AND IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE MOST OF IT."

Period.  Not you, not your family, not your job, not your property, not the laws, not the constitution, not the people we elect to govern, nada.  Zilch.  Bupkiss. Money.  Period.  And that's what 90% of the threads on this site are about, Charlie Brown.

Right, and the prison population is a byproduct of this. We don't have the huge prison population because of the industries that have sprouted up to parasite off of it.

The actual reason we lock up so many is because they are superfluous labor. Maintaining that "natural rate of unemployment": and the wage insecurity that keeps wages low necessitates a percentage of the population without work and we have to put them somewhere.


Modern urban culture has a large share of blame. When you are on the 2nd generation of glorifying a criminal lifestyle over 'workin for the man', you are going to have high unemployment and crime rates. Thug life emulation has a large share of the responsibility for the current state of affairs.

I blame NWA. The world needs more Pharrel Williams "Happy" and less Dre "Natural Born Killaz".

But hey, it's the white man keepin ya'll down, encouraging you to murder each other, right?
2014-07-21 03:24:09 PM  
1 vote:

LegacyDL: Shows like these simply serve as court jesters,


What stops a man who can laugh from speaking the truth? - Horace
2014-07-21 03:23:37 PM  
1 vote:
Do we still "hope" that this will "change"?
2014-07-21 03:12:54 PM  
1 vote:

LegacyDL: Here's my problem with show's like Oliver's, Daily Show, Maher, etc: Peeking out from your Ivory Tower doesn't really help. Calling out the fact that the Emperor doesn't wear any clothes doesn't help. Shows like these simply serve as court jesters, where they can make fun of the establishment because they're clowns but any effort to be serious results in their own downfall (Maher and 9/11 for example).

If these hosts are serious in their endeavors they need to cut it with the dark humor. Life isn't a Monty Python sketch. If they're so concerned about the public welfare or pointing out wrongs they need to climb off their intellectual mountain and do something. Sitting around the campfire exchanging ideologies isn't cutting it anymore.


You mean, like, Al Franken?
2014-07-21 03:04:08 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: Yet you applaud and adore the prison guard union in California due to the advantage it gives for democrats politically.


Please, show me where I've done so. I'll buy you TF for a year showing me where I've said anything that can even resemble that statement.

Of course, you can't, because you're delusional.
2014-07-21 02:57:36 PM  
1 vote:

MyRandomName: RoxtarRyan: When we have prisons that are for-profit, and we have the largest percentage per capita of people behind bars, you think it would be farking obvious that our entire goddamn system is farked up. The system is weighed against people to land them in prison because it makes money. People are literally treated like a commodity, seen as "how much money can this person earn me", and not as an employer-employee relationship. The fact that no one in either party is doing anything about this is another reason why America isn't, nor will ever be, #1*.


*except in the huge amount of ignorance and cognitive dissonance the people and ruling classes have

The left loves to blame for profit prisons which is a fraction of the actual prison populace. Yet you applaud and adore the prison guard union in California due to the advantage it gives for democrats politically.

I dont think you are being sincere.


Your entire intellectual life seems to consist of what you imagine the so-called "left" thinks, says, and does.
Do you have any actual views of your own with the merit to be worth discussing?
2014-07-21 02:38:17 PM  
1 vote:

AnotherBluesStringer: moothemagiccow: Serious Black: He hit the nail on the head when he noted that the reason nobody in power wants to fix this problem is nobody in power expects they or anyone they know will ever go to prison.

So what's the point of the show? Pretty much every big topic he's covered comes out like that. Oh, look at how farked up this thing is. Oh well, onto the next episode. It's about as useful as reading Fark.

What do you really want him to do? Pass a bill? That's not really in his job description. He's bringing awareness to subjects that go overlooked, or are utterly farked up...just like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert do.

We, as a society, are the ones that are expected to change the things we don't like about these topics. Whether or not we can or do is a whole different argument.

Do you also get angry when the local weatherman doesn't make the Sun shine?


And to do that, we need enough knowledge of the topic.  Which, strangely, comes more from for-profit comedy shows than from networks that are allowed to broadcast through the air because they're supposedly providing news for the public good.

/we found new evidence that officials are "very hopeful" will lead to the recovery of the plane.
//Benghazi
2014-07-21 02:30:18 PM  
1 vote:
We are a christian based society, our penal system is based not on rehabilitation, but on punishment, pain and suffering, just as the bible says it should be.
2014-07-21 02:27:34 PM  
1 vote:

moothemagiccow: So what's the point of the show?



Same as every other show on HBO: Be entertaining enough so that you keep paying your HBO subscription fee.
2014-07-21 02:23:29 PM  
1 vote:

moothemagiccow: Serious Black: He hit the nail on the head when he noted that the reason nobody in power wants to fix this problem is nobody in power expects they or anyone they know will ever go to prison.

So what's the point of the show? Pretty much every big topic he's covered comes out like that. Oh, look at how farked up this thing is. Oh well, onto the next episode. It's about as useful as reading Fark.


You seem to spend a great deal of time watching a show you don't like.  A word of advice for you? The Kardashians are on Sunday nights, too.  You may find you prefer that instead.
 
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