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(WBUR Boston)   Market Basket workers fired for trying to stage coup to counter coup that ousted CEO. Lawmakers are now joining in with the workers by boycotting the supermarket   (wbur.org) divider line 58
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2014-07-21 08:13:52 AM  
This is a big deal around here. My town has three MB stores and no other grocers.

If you've never been, think of a grocery store stuck in the 70s. No TVs everywhere, no self-checkout lanes, no coupon machines dangling in the middle of the aisle, no loyalty cards, yet an awesome selection and way better prices than everyone except maybe Trader Joes. No television advertising (only mailers and newspaper) and they don't even have a website. But it's doing billions in sales every year and apparently pulling a nice profit that gets shared with employees.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-21 08:21:45 AM  
I doubt I've ever been in a Market Basket, so consider me boycotting if you like. I'm west of Boston and grew up in other states. They are concentrated north. To a friend who grew up in Tewksbury Demoulas was the king of groceries, and my blank stare the first time he mentioned the name surprised him.
 
2014-07-21 08:31:45 AM  
i'm a loyal MB shopper.  now that the old guard is being pushed out of the company we can probably expect that they will go the way of S&S and Hannaford, high prices, shiat service and lower quality.  i really hope this isn't the case, but it's pretty apparent given the circumstances of arthur's removal that the current leadership does not share the same values that made MB so great in the first place.
 
2014-07-21 08:38:35 AM  

enry: This is a big deal around here. My town has three MB stores and no other grocers.

If you've never been, think of a grocery store stuck in the 70s. No TVs everywhere, no self-checkout lanes, no coupon machines dangling in the middle of the aisle, no loyalty cards, yet an awesome selection and way better prices than everyone except maybe Trader Joes. No television advertising (only mailers and newspaper) and they don't even have a website. But it's doing billions in sales every year and apparently pulling a nice profit that gets shared with employees.


There's one a town over from me (and we'd go there if the parking lot wasn't so terribly designed that it wouldn't take an hour just getting in or out of it) and they do have some pretty great stuff there, their butcher's stuff is pretty good quality too, and it's surprisingly cheap.

doublesecretprobation: they will go the way of S&S


hey now, S&S isn't terrible at all. You must be thinking of StarMarket/Shaws :P
 
2014-07-21 08:44:11 AM  
I've liked it when I've been there, but man, the one in Somerville is insane. Go at 2 on a random Wednesday afternoon and it's like any other supermarket on the day before Thanksgiving when a blizzard and a hurricane are due to hit at the same time.
 
2014-07-21 09:17:52 AM  
I've been going there since my Shaws shut down and MB opened 3 stores in a 15 minute drive and it's been great. The one I went to yesterday had massive amounts of empty shelves. The greedy family is basically killing their golden goose.
 
2014-07-21 09:22:42 AM  

BunkoSquad: I've liked it when I've been there, but man, the one in Somerville is insane. Go at 2 on a random Wednesday afternoon and it's like any other supermarket on the day before Thanksgiving when a blizzard and a hurricane are due to hit at the same time.


My wife refuses to go to the Somerville one ever again.  Unbelievably busy, your description is dead on
 
2014-07-21 09:39:08 AM  

somedude210: hey now, S&S isn't terrible at all. You must be thinking of StarMarket/Shaws :P


yes it is.  shaws is the absolute worst though, everything is reliably 25% more expensive than hannaford or s&s.  i buy produce at the Price Right in my 'hood, it's pretty damn good too if you can handle the clientele.
 
2014-07-21 09:45:21 AM  

doublesecretprobation: yes it is. shaws is the absolute worst though, everything is reliably 25% more expensive than hannaford or s&s. i buy produce at the Price Right in my 'hood, it's pretty damn good too if you can handle the clientele.


we have a S&S, Shaws and Big Y in a 4 mile stretch of 140 down here. S&S is arguably the cheapest, Big Y has some interesting and tasty local stuff (also has a better produce section sometimes). S&S is really the best deal for 90% of your weekly shopping (in terms of selection and price) around here, Trader Joes in Foxbourogh is great for some select items (produce mostly. You can find some really funky stuff there)

I dunno. Big Y just seems like a disappointment to me. Props for being all American stuff and relatively local stuff at that, but eh, it's not worth going to.

Shaws is just crap though
 
2014-07-21 09:47:18 AM  
So the board fire the successful managment and replace it with James Gooch, from the dying Radio Shack brand, and Felicia Thornton who was a key part of the managment team that ran Albertsons into the ground (and as a result enjoyed a healthy golden parachut in 2006).

Yea, that makes perfect sense.  I hope they get the reward they so richly deserve.
 
2014-07-21 09:48:11 AM  

Sueil: I've been going there since my Shaws shut down and MB opened 3 stores in a 15 minute drive and it's been great. The one I went to yesterday had massive amounts of empty shelves. The greedy family is basically killing their golden goose.


Agreed about the golden goose analagy. I'm guessing you're in manchester, nh. The one in Hooksett is in a perfect location for me as I work in bow.
 
2014-07-21 09:58:29 AM  
Was wondering if we'd see an article today, there was a story I saw yesterday, supply depots are refusing to restock stores, and shelves are bare all over the state. Lots of twitter and instagram shots of stores that look like Fallout
 
2014-07-21 10:16:19 AM  

minoridiot: So the board fire the successful managment and replace it with James Gooch, from the dying Radio Shack brand, and Felicia Thornton who was a key part of the managment team that ran Albertsons into the ground (and as a result enjoyed a healthy golden parachut in 2006).

Yea, that makes perfect sense.  I hope they get the reward they so richly deserve.


Wow. Just...wow!

How big IS that hole of suck they created with those hires?
 
2014-07-21 10:27:52 AM  

SurfaceTension: minoridiot: So the board fire the successful managment and replace it with James Gooch, from the dying Radio Shack brand, and Felicia Thornton who was a key part of the managment team that ran Albertsons into the ground (and as a result enjoyed a healthy golden parachut in 2006).

Yea, that makes perfect sense.  I hope they get the reward they so richly deserve.

Wow. Just...wow!

How big IS that hole of suck they created with those hires?


Somewhere in the neighborhood of Ishtar, Bieber, and a black hole. I knew it was going to be bad when the truck drivers were locked out. We can hope & pray that this bites Arthur S (the evil one) in the butt big time.
 
2014-07-21 10:40:04 AM  
Meh....  A few years back, my wife went on a market/budget/coupon kick and we actually priced out our average grocery bill at the 3 local shops...(from cheapest to most expensive)  Hannaford's, Market Basket and Shaw's.

Yep... Hannaford's was not only less expensive than Market Basket... it was by a WIDE margin... about 15%.  So the whole "MB is cheapest" is utter horsecrap.

and adding to that, the stores are complete dumps and the clientele makes Walmart's customers look classy.
 
2014-07-21 10:49:54 AM  
Here's another article about this:

http://www.wmur.com/news/shelves-empty-as-market-basket-strike-conti nu es/27049240#!bjcQW8

The reason I posted this was to share this one line FTA:

"Another rally is planned for 9 a.m. Monday at store 8, 10 Main St. in Tewksbury, Massachusetts.  Employees originally planned to protest at the store's headquarters, but were told they were not allowed on the property."

Talk about asshole running the place!  "Fark you guys, and we care what you think and we don't want to have to look at you, so go plan your little protest somewhere else.  We're going to fire you anyway, and we don't want you guys messing up the landscaping."
 
2014-07-21 10:53:59 AM  

enry: This is a big deal around here. My town has three MB stores and no other grocers.

If you've never been, think of a grocery store stuck in the 70s. No TVs everywhere, no self-checkout lanes, no coupon machines dangling in the middle of the aisle, no loyalty cards, yet an awesome selection and way better prices than everyone except maybe Trader Joes. No television advertising (only mailers and newspaper) and they don't even have a website. But it's doing billions in sales every year and apparently pulling a nice profit that gets shared with employees.


I miss shopping in that environment.  I hate the ultra large super markets stuffed in the middle of a big box strip mall.
 
2014-07-21 10:54:16 AM  
Hannaford is way more expensive for myself their stores are old and dirty and their quality is garbage. Market Basket on the other hand are all brand new around here and is the cheapest by far. The staff is some of the best staff I have ever seen in a retail situation as well. Treating them well went a long way I imagine.
 
2014-07-21 10:58:54 AM  
Protesting is one thing. Blowing off your shift so you can protest is another. It's called job abandonment. I'd fire your ass for that too.
 
2014-07-21 11:08:22 AM  
If I lived in a area with those stores and needed a job, I would turn in an application.  When they ask me why they should hire me, I would tell them "I don't give a shiat who the CEO is"
 
2014-07-21 11:31:36 AM  

Hobo Jr.: If I lived in a area with those stores and needed a job, I would turn in an application.  When they ask me why they should hire me, I would tell them "I don't give a shiat who the CEO is"


"Thank you sir may I have another"
 
2014-07-21 11:42:45 AM  
MB has co CEOs now. When has that strategy ever worked? Pick one and go with him or her.
 
2014-07-21 12:01:47 PM  

lelio: MB has co CEOs now. When has that strategy ever worked? Pick one and go with him or her.


Why should you have to choose between the suck that is Radio Shack and the suck that is Albertsons?
 
2014-07-21 12:01:57 PM  

MassD: and adding to that, the stores are complete dumps and the clientele makes Walmart's customers look classy.


let me guess, fitchburg?
 
2014-07-21 12:04:12 PM  
My friend has a business literally across the street from the Tewksbury headquarters. Lots of people out front the other day. Went shopping at the MB in Plaistow yesterday and it was like the first 15 minutes of a zombie apocalypse movie, where the supermarkets get cleaned out. Almost zero MB branded anything on the shelves, TONS of empty shelf space.
 
2014-07-21 12:04:26 PM  

KidneyStone: Protesting is one thing. Blowing off your shift so you can protest is another. It's called job abandonment. I'd fire your ass for that too.


It's called a strike, and while you  can fire them all (depending on state law, I guess), you could end up in even deeper shiat trying to replace them all.
 
2014-07-21 12:13:03 PM  
And people say we don't need unions these days.

Well, farking idiots say that, but it is said.
 
2014-07-21 12:20:08 PM  
every MB i've been in stunk like there was rotting food or sour dairy. the only stuff that was actually well priced was the sale stuff, everything else was as or more expensive than hannafords, s&s or wegmans. i guess its worth it to occasionally stock the chest freezer with the door buster bulk meat sales but i have to hold my nose (literally) to make it through. or i suppose if the other option is shaws since they are terrible
 
2014-07-21 12:35:25 PM  
It is kind of scary how quick a grocery store can clear out of merchandise. Imagine if every grocery warehouse worker across the country decided to strike, or there was some major catastrophe...we'd be farked.
 
2014-07-21 12:37:34 PM  
A counter-coup? Isn't that a coup-coup?
 
2014-07-21 12:47:16 PM  

RamboBrite: A counter-coup? Isn't that a coup-coup?


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2014-07-21 12:51:04 PM  

doublesecretprobation: MassD: and adding to that, the stores are complete dumps and the clientele makes Walmart's customers look classy.

let me guess, fitchburg?


Hey now, John Fitch has better clientele than Water St. And the Leominster location was just redone and is supposed to be nice.
 
2014-07-21 12:57:43 PM  

tlchwi02: every MB i've been in stunk like there was rotting food or sour dairy. the only stuff that was actually well priced was the sale stuff, everything else was as or more expensive than hannafords, s&s or wegmans. i guess its worth it to occasionally stock the chest freezer with the door buster bulk meat sales but i have to hold my nose (literally) to make it through. or i suppose if the other option is shaws since they are terrible


The Market Baskets in my area (Seacoast Region NH) look like they're out of the 70's, but other than that they're clean and well kept. Plus, my favorite yogurt is $1.19 (-4% current store-wide discount) at MB, compared to $1.79 to $1.89 at Shaws and Hannafords. Chicken Tenders cost $3 more a pound at Shaw's.

I often go to Shaws or Hannafords for produce or meat, but aside from that, Market Basket is the best place to go.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-07-21 01:26:19 PM  
RamboBrite: A counter-coup? Isn't that a coup-coup?

You can call the workers "Contras" for short.  I bet they'll be getting covert assistance from Washington soon.
 
2014-07-21 01:30:06 PM  

BunkoSquad: I've liked it when I've been there, but man, the one in Somerville is insane. Go at 2 on a random Wednesday afternoon and it's like any other supermarket on the day before Thanksgiving when a blizzard and a hurricane are due to hit at the same time.


Never grocery shop on Wednesday, that's when the weekly sales start.
 
2014-07-21 01:30:44 PM  
Skipped my MB trip this weekend, went elsewhere with my dollars to support the workers. We have two in town, less than a mile apart. One a standard blue collar MB, the other for rich folks. I doubt they will be a store for average joes much longer.
 
2014-07-21 01:35:30 PM  
Sounds kind of useless.  The CEO is already ousted.  They only need a reason to fire any loyalists and they're giving it to them.  I don't see the good guys winning here.

If there was ever a time to prevent the coup it would've been before they got enough power to oust the CEO in the first place.
 
2014-07-21 01:45:15 PM  
The American CEO Class Guide to Business:

1. Take a successful business with loyal workforce, loyal customers and good reputation.
2. Apply MBA logic to it.
3. Fire any loyal employees
4. Change the business model to focus solely on short-term high profit moves that destroy long term profitability.
5. Hire your buddies who have run a series of formally successful businesses into the ground yet have made millions.
6. Go out of business slow but surely from the short-sighted management choices.
7. Enrich yet another failed CEO with a golden parachute.

People wonder why us plebes hate rich asshole CEOs. Hmmm
 
2014-07-21 02:17:47 PM  
As a New Yorker who frequently visits New England, "Maahhhhhket Basket" is one of a few words I literally cannot avoid pronouncing like I was born and raised in Billerica.
 
2014-07-21 02:23:09 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: As a New Yorker who frequently visits New England, "Maahhhhhket Basket" is one of a few words I literally cannot avoid pronouncing like I was born and raised in Billerica Billricker.


Fixed.
 
2014-07-21 02:24:42 PM  
Things I never expected to be reading about on fark include: Market Basket.

I can't imagine what it is that the top brass think they're accomplishing here.  They called the employees bluff and are losing so far.  They can't fire absolutely everyone unless their goal is to just sell the buildings to another grocery chain...

...hmmm...
 
2014-07-21 02:27:40 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: As a New Yorker who frequently visits New England, "Maahhhhhket Basket" is one of a few words I literally cannot avoid pronouncing like I was born and raised in Billerica.


You mean Brr-ricka.
Both my kids worked for MB when they were in high school. Sucks that the chain is going down the tubes like this...
 
2014-07-21 02:37:37 PM  

NkThrasher: I can't imagine what it is that the top brass think they're accomplishing here. They called the employees bluff and are losing so far. They can't fire absolutely everyone unless their goal is to just sell the buildings to another grocery chain..

The new execs have shown no indication they have any interest in MB as a business.  MB is a cash-heavy company that owns a lot of property.  Even if what's left of this war is just some cash reserve and some property, that's more than what they started out with, so they're perfectly happy to burn the whole thing to the ground just to get at whatever's left.  The cash-heavy nature of MB actually works against it; it means that even with no revenue, their lack of debt means they won't go under quickly.

It's like if you inherited a fully furnished house by through cutthroat litigation.  If all you want is some cash and broken hearts mean about as much to you as road salt, you can sell all the heirlooms for pennies on the dollar and it's even like a protest on the front lawn or the gardener refusing to show up out of protest is gonna slow you down.  I can't imagine what the employees think they're accomplishing here.  They're bringing attention to the issue but it's not like shame is any sort of deterrent against a good-ol'-fashioned American takeover.
 
2014-07-21 02:47:37 PM  

dfenstrate: tlchwi02: every MB i've been in stunk like there was rotting food or sour dairy. the only stuff that was actually well priced was the sale stuff, everything else was as or more expensive than hannafords, s&s or wegmans. i guess its worth it to occasionally stock the chest freezer with the door buster bulk meat sales but i have to hold my nose (literally) to make it through. or i suppose if the other option is shaws since they are terrible

The Market Baskets in my area (Seacoast Region NH) look like they're out of the 70's, but other than that they're clean and well kept. Plus, my favorite yogurt is $1.19 (-4% current store-wide discount) at MB, compared to $1.79 to $1.89 at Shaws and Hannafords. Chicken Tenders cost $3 more a pound at Shaw's.

I often go to Shaws or Hannafords for produce or meat, but aside from that, Market Basket is the best place to go.



THIS. Hannaford does have the best deli (as far as the big 3 go anyway). Their "Inspirations" brand is pretty damn good. Market Basket is generally the smelliest and the dirtiest, but they are the cheapest for for most off the shelf items.

/Calef's is king for non-supermarket deli though.
 
2014-07-21 03:41:42 PM  

Hobo Jr.: If I lived in a area with those stores and needed a job, I would turn in an application.  When they ask me why they should hire me, I would tell them "I don't give a shiat who the CEO is"


"Good. Can you start tonight, minimum wage, 6 hours a day, 4 days a week? We may give you more in a decade...if you're a good worker."
 
2014-07-21 03:49:24 PM  

SurfaceTension: minoridiot: So the board fire the successful managment and replace it with James Gooch, from the dying Radio Shack brand, and Felicia Thornton who was a key part of the managment team that ran Albertsons into the ground (and as a result enjoyed a healthy golden parachut in 2006).

Yea, that makes perfect sense.  I hope they get the reward they so richly deserve.

Wow. Just...wow!

How big IS that hole of suck they created with those hires?


And they're probably paying them a TON OF MONEY because those job creators represent the best and the brightest and that's the only way to get the best and the brightest to work for you.
 
2014-07-21 03:53:47 PM  

Hobo Jr.: If I lived in a area with those stores and needed a job, I would turn in an application.  When they ask me why they should hire me, I would tell them "I don't give a shiat who the CEO is"


If I were the hiring manager, I would probably disqualify you based on the proudly-demonstrated lack of critical thinking skills.  Given that it's important enough that a multitude of long-time employees are willing to lose their jobs over it, only a fool would casually dismiss the concern without further consideration.
 
2014-07-21 03:54:59 PM  

minoridiot: So the board fire the successful managment and replace it with James Gooch, from the dying Radio Shack brand, and Felicia Thornton who was a key part of the managment team that ran Albertsons into the ground (and as a result enjoyed a healthy golden parachut in 2006).

Yea, that makes perfect sense.  I hope they get the reward they so richly deserve.


To be fair Albertsons didn't have far to go before it hit the ground.
 
2014-07-21 04:03:54 PM  

Booyaxe: Market Basket is generally the smelliest and the dirtiest,


I guess stores vary from area to area; the nearest 5 MBs here are very nice, even the ones that haven't been replaced by one of their new mega stores.
 
2014-07-21 05:32:34 PM  
"Even if they don't sell the company, we feel that they are going to sell the real estate, which is a big part of our business plan - owning the real estate and collecting the rent enables us to keep low prices for our customers and keep us out of debt."


The rent they collect on the real estate makes it possible to keep their food prices low? Sounds like a shiatty business plan.

"Sure we take losses over here, but we are profitable in something totally unrelated to groceries so it all works out!"

Seems like the better idea is selling off the grocery store (or just closing it) and keep collecting rent from the real estate.
 
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