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(Reuters)   From deep in the heart of Russia, Snowden wants to rally hackers "to spur development of easy-to-use technologies to subvert government surveillance programs around the globe" that Russian agencies couldn't POSSIBLY want to use themselves   (reuters.com) divider line 44
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2014-07-21 08:44:50 PM  
Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?
 
2014-07-21 09:56:49 PM  

ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?


Maybe it is and we have just been lied to this entire time ;)
 
2014-07-21 09:56:55 PM  

ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?


I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.
 
2014-07-21 09:57:35 PM  
Does anyone think Snowden is still alive at this point?
 
2014-07-21 10:01:00 PM  
Also who's really against this push?  The people who have nothing to hide because their political views are currently in fashion?  Having something to hide doesn't often (and increasingly less so) mean you are doing something morally wrong.  Hell you can be doing all the right things these days and you could use some privacy from corporate creeps and the powermad.
 
2014-07-21 10:01:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Does anyone think Snowden is still alive at this point?


As long as he still has dirt to reveal in bits over time, Putin will allow him to be non-radioactive (for now).
 
2014-07-21 10:01:35 PM  
You guys realize he is basically hostage to Russia, yes? It's not as if he went there for the human rights tour.

And why wouldn't people or foreign agencies want to subvert government surveillance anyway? I don't know, maybe you're the kind of guy who relishes TSA cavity checks.
 
2014-07-21 10:01:49 PM  
Why the Dumbass tag? Oh, that's right...it's the tag mods use when they disagree with what the person is doing, regardless if said person is a dumbass or not.
 
2014-07-21 10:06:07 PM  
He is a traitor.  Hang him from the highest tree you can find.
 
2014-07-21 10:08:01 PM  
He wouldn't be in Russia if he hadn't been persecuted in the US.
 
2014-07-21 10:09:53 PM  
What does asking a bunch of hackers at a hacking conference to create more snoop resistant technology  have to do with Russia using the technology?

/Oh, right, propagandistic title.
//Subby is a retard
 
2014-07-21 10:14:20 PM  

Dupe of the Year

 
2014-07-21 10:14:45 PM  

nijika: ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?

I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.


Pretty sure Obama doesn't order the death's of his critics and reporters.
 
2014-07-21 10:18:57 PM  
Russia, of course, has no secret surveilance programs that such hacking might expose.

Srsly, even if the US has a big tech advantage, didn't Snowden just piss in  Putin's Tsar-O's?
 
2014-07-21 10:19:02 PM  

nijika: Also who's really against this push?  The people who have nothing to hide because their political views are currently in fashion?


c2.staticflickr.com
 
2014-07-21 10:22:24 PM  
Snowden, who addressed conference attendees on Saturday via video link from Moscow, said he intends to devote much of his time to promoting such technologies, including ones that allow people to communicate anonymously and encrypt their messages... he told the New York City conference

C'mon guys, basic reading comprehension
 
2014-07-21 10:25:53 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Pretty sure Obama doesn't order the death's of his critics and reporters.


I'm pretty sure as well, but there's a lot of three dimensional territory between the extremes of black-bagging someone for life at Gitmo and a public thallium poisoning incident.  Tell me if Snowden didn't set foot on US soil that he wouldn't be giving up his life in another sense, for a "crime" that he would be hailed as a hero for if he had given up any other regime.

Imagine if he was a Russian ex-pat living in Florida, responsible for blowing the lid off of a massive Russian privacy crime against it's own citizens and all of Europe?  He'd probably have his own radio show over here.

And for certain, Putin is a terrible guy, but looking at us, our government has been deep-snooping on us and our allies for years with money we gave them, for no obvious benefit except for internal power grabs of the select elite.

But yet somehow this one individual keeps getting hoisted up as the worst coward possible.  How odd.  How bizarre.
 
2014-07-21 10:27:32 PM  

spamdog: You guys realize he is basically hostage to Russia, yes? It's not as if he went there for the human rights tour.

And why wouldn't people or foreign agencies want to subvert government surveillance anyway? I don't know, maybe you're the kind of guy who relishes TSA cavity checks.


You realize he went there of his own free will, yes? Am I supposed to feel sorry for him now, that he's become Putin's sock puppet?
 
2014-07-21 10:28:16 PM  

ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?


No. He was trying to get to Brazil, the US Government stranded him in Russia. If you want to criticize him, criticize him for things that were actually in his control.
 
2014-07-21 10:31:37 PM  

Gyrfalcon: spamdog: You guys realize he is basically hostage to Russia, yes? It's not as if he went there for the human rights tour.

And why wouldn't people or foreign agencies want to subvert government surveillance anyway? I don't know, maybe you're the kind of guy who relishes TSA cavity checks.

You realize he went there of his own free will, yes?


[citation needed]

He didn't choose to go to Russia. His flight to Brazil connected to Russia. While he was there, the US cancelled his passport, and forced down the plane of the President of Bolivia- violating about a zillion international laws and standards and causing a major diplomatic incident- because they thought he might be aboard.
 
2014-07-21 10:37:07 PM  

nijika: ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?

I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.


Oh they will certainly guarantee his safety.  That isn't what is is afraid of.
 
2014-07-21 10:51:05 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: nijika: ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?

I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.

Pretty sure Obama doesn't order the death's of his critics and reporters.


The death's WHAT?
 
2014-07-21 11:08:31 PM  

nijika: Also who's really against this push?  The people who have nothing to hide because their political views are currently in fashion?


I would say, people who believe in the concept of Rule of Law.
 
2014-07-21 11:27:38 PM  

ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?


He's like a modern day Upton Sinclair.
 
2014-07-21 11:29:24 PM  

Enigmamf: nijika: Also who's really against this push?  The people who have nothing to hide because their political views are currently in fashion?

I would say, people who believe in the concept of Rule of Law.


Nice to know that not all Farkers lose their sense of human when it comes to Snowden.
 
2014-07-21 11:30:16 PM  

worlddan: Enigmamf: nijika: Also who's really against this push?  The people who have nothing to hide because their political views are currently in fashion?

I would say, people who believe in the concept of Rule of Law.

Nice to know that not all Farkers lose their sense of human when it comes to Snowden.


Or humor, either one fits actually.
 
2014-07-21 11:32:21 PM  

cptjeff: Gyrfalcon: spamdog: You guys realize he is basically hostage to Russia, yes? It's not as if he went there for the human rights tour.

And why wouldn't people or foreign agencies want to subvert government surveillance anyway? I don't know, maybe you're the kind of guy who relishes TSA cavity checks.

You realize he went there of his own free will, yes?

[citation needed]

He didn't choose to go to Russia. His flight to Brazil connected to Russia. While he was there, the US cancelled his passport, and forced down the plane of the President of Bolivia- violating about a zillion international laws and standards and causing a major diplomatic incident- because they thought he might be aboard.


Yeah we'll pay dearly for that mistake for generations to come....
 
2014-07-21 11:34:51 PM  
Fark him.
 
2014-07-21 11:39:23 PM  
I liked what Snowden had to say about Ukraine, SAMs and the Malaysian jet. It was so transparent.
 
2014-07-21 11:43:45 PM  

ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?


It is for the people at the top and those directly serving them.
 
2014-07-22 12:33:59 AM  

Big_Doofus: He is a traitor.  Hang him from the highest tree you can find.


You give doofuses everywhere a bad name.
 
2014-07-22 12:38:38 AM  

Gyrfalcon: spamdog: You guys realize he is basically hostage to Russia, yes? It's not as if he went there for the human rights tour.

And why wouldn't people or foreign agencies want to subvert government surveillance anyway? I don't know, maybe you're the kind of guy who relishes TSA cavity checks.

You realize he went there of his own free will, yes? Am I supposed to feel sorry for him now, that he's become Putin's sock puppet?


Remember the bit where several high-ranked US bureaucrats called for Snowden to receive the death penalty? "Free will" my ass. If he went back to the US, he'd disappear.

Remember when the US was the good guys?

/not an American
//wtf is wrong with your .gov?
///and the morons that think it's all good?
 
2014-07-22 01:21:40 AM  
Subby please take your jingoistic bullshiat and shove it up your ass.
 
2014-07-22 01:45:49 AM  

VendorXeno: Subby please take your jingoistic bullshiat and shove it up your ass.

punitjajo.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-07-22 01:49:43 AM  
Duped under two flags. Enjoy the apartment on Kutuzovsky, komrade
 
2014-07-22 02:19:15 AM  
Snowden is of no value and no danger for Putin. Well, there is a little bit of value, showing him to America and saying "nyaaah nyaaah", but inside Russia pretty much no one knows who Snowden is. He isn't in any local news or anything; nobody cares about him.

Snowden is not some kind of serious scientist, so he can't produce anything that Russia would want to use, either.
 
2014-07-22 02:35:40 AM  

nijika: I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.


1. Yes, they are. Anyone who thinks otherwise is frankly a doofus.
2. Won't guarantee his safety? Where? Pretty sure he'll be given a nice cell with access to lawyers if he comes home.
3. Why do people keep saying it's illegal? FISA: look it up.
 
2014-07-22 03:46:25 AM  
Why is anybody listening to this gooch and why is anything he says still making the news ?
 
2014-07-22 06:41:30 AM  

nijika: ArkAngel: Does he actually think Russia is this wonderful nation of bunnies and rainbows?

I think the real question is does he think they're any worse than the US.. the country he blew the whistle on who currently won't guarantee his safety for giving up their giant, illegal surveillance program.


This is exactly what people seem to forget when they're foaming at the mouth at the idea of a captured Snowden.
 
2014-07-22 07:35:56 AM  
People just can't seem to decide which bogeyman he's really working for.

I still love that people think a spy would do what he did, in spite of it making literally no farking sense at all.

farkeruk: 3. Why do people keep saying it's illegal? FISA: look it up.


Actually some elements he has exposed have been deemed unconstitutional. Just wait for the lawsuits from the individuals that can now prove were targeted, despite years of denials from the NSA.
 
2014-07-22 07:57:03 AM  
HotWingConspiracy:
farkeruk: 3. Why do people keep saying it's illegal? FISA: look it up.

Actually some elements he has exposed have been deemed unconstitutional. Just wait for the lawsuits from the individuals that can now prove were targeted, despite years of denials from the NSA.


Hey now, the Fark Democrat Brigade told me that it was all total constitutional despite the ACLU saying otherwise  https://www.aclu.org/national-security/why-fisa-amendments-act-uncons t itutional
 
2014-07-22 08:10:22 AM  

Bandito King: He wouldn't be in Russia if he hadn't been persecuted in the US.


*shrugs* and if he did the same thing to Russia he'd be in the US

i guess nobody remembers the cold war, but this stuff used to be more common
 
2014-07-22 10:44:03 AM  
farkeruk:
2. Won't guarantee his safety? Where? Pretty sure he'll be given a nice cell with access to lawyers if he comes home.

Please tell me you're trolling
 
2014-07-22 11:31:59 AM  
Farkers Rally For Reuters! Hate the rebel! Shill for the Man! Farkers For More Control! Freedom is Wrong. Control is What We Want!
 
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