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2014-07-21 09:19:01 AM  
I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
2014-07-21 09:22:15 AM  
So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.
 
2014-07-21 09:22:41 AM  
That will almost hold my porn collection.
 
2014-07-21 09:23:13 AM  
Well, that should hold at least some of the porn.
 
2014-07-21 11:31:43 AM  
Saving our porn for future generations.

/Or future species
//Or aliens
///I wonder if aliens would like human porn
 
2014-07-21 11:36:43 AM  

Cybernetic: Saving our porn for future generations.

/Or future species
//Or aliens
///I wonder if aliens would like human porn


I imagine if there are any alien intelligences out there, they have their own versions of Captain Kirk willing to get it on with anything.
 
2014-07-21 11:37:01 AM  

UberDave: That will almost hold my porn collection.


Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Well, that should hold at least some of the porn.


Cybernetic: Saving our porn for future generations.

/Or future species
//Or aliens
///I wonder if aliens would like human porn


And we are done; covered the porn angles; hit the lights please.
 
2014-07-21 11:44:58 AM  
I guess I'll have to buy the White Album again...
 
2014-07-21 11:52:37 AM  

dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

This is what happens when you let the Insane Clown Posse write your press releases.
 
2014-07-21 11:55:49 AM  

dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.


That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.
 
2014-07-21 12:03:34 PM  
farking 2013?
 
2014-07-21 12:26:36 PM  

nitefallz: farking 2013?


Holy crap! This article is ancient!
 
2014-07-21 12:27:09 PM  
The future will have 5-D storage discs the size of a dime that can hold 360TB that will outlast the human race

And 40 years after that they'll be obsolete and no one will have working equipment that can read them.

/Have an 8" floppy disk that I can't read anymore.
//Book from the same year (1982)?  Still readable.
 
2014-07-21 12:40:57 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.


The 5th dimension is love. Or was that element?
 
2014-07-21 12:43:12 PM  
www.rocksbackpages.com

What a fifth dimension may look like.
 
2014-07-21 12:49:18 PM  
 

Unoriginal_Username: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.


I personally keep all my data safely stored in the past. It's a foolproof backup system.
 
2014-07-21 01:02:06 PM  
Yes, but will it run Crysis?
 
2014-07-21 01:13:48 PM  
Marilyn McCoo, perfect pitch and depth of tone. And long before autotune. My lawn, off of it...
 
2014-07-21 01:31:56 PM  
HAH...I already have two of deez.
 
2014-07-21 01:46:12 PM  
bullshiat. i'll believe it when it comes out.
 
2014-07-21 02:49:21 PM  
Unoriginal_Username:

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?



Space?

i677.photobucket.com

God I'm a nerd.
 
2014-07-21 02:53:03 PM  

UberDave: That will almost hold my porn collection.


That only holds the "chicks I wouldn't bang on a dare but still fap to" section of mine.
 
2014-07-21 03:13:22 PM  

dittybopper: The future will have 5-D storage discs the size of a dime that can hold 360TB that will outlast the human race

And 40 years after that they'll be obsolete and no one will have working equipment that can read them.

/Have an 8" floppy disk that I can't read anymore.
//Book from the same year (1982)?  Still readable.


Well 40 years after the extinction of the human race, no one will care.

But seriously, the major reason we don't have means of reading 8" floppies anymore is they couldn't store enough data to be worth recovering. They could hold, what, a few text spreadsheets and maybe part of a primitive game? Everyone who actually needed the data from their floppy collections transferred it to 3.5" disks or CDs decades ago. Unless it was for a criminal case or something, and then they could probably find a means of extracting the magnetic pattern from the disk and decoding it.

Even if this holographic disk thingy is surpassed by a storage technology that can hold orders of magnitude more data, that doesn't change the fact it can hold a tenth of the library of congress' worth of information on one disk. There's still going to be stuff worth accessing if these become popular, even if we get really shiatty about data compression in the future.
 
2014-07-21 03:32:41 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.


Link
 
2014-07-21 03:33:13 PM  

dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.


It's a 3 dimensional array of objects that can each hold 3 bits in a single spot by altering different optical properties of the glass in that spot.  So, in order to define any spot mathematically, you need 5 coordinates, i.e. 5 dimensions, because there are two additional axes apart from just x,y, and z.
 
2014-07-21 03:36:03 PM  

LrdPhoenix: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

It's a 3 dimensional array of objects that can each hold 3 bits in a single spot by altering different optical properties of the glass in that spot.  So, in order to define any spot mathematically, you need 5 coordinates, i.e. 5 dimensions, because there are two additional axes apart from just x,y, and z.


Oh, also the reason you only need 5 and not 6 axes are that 2 of the bits stored use the same property in different ways, and so use the same axis.
 
2014-07-21 03:42:52 PM  
lh5.ggpht.com

One of these?
 
2014-07-21 03:49:44 PM  
How can you be a DDDDD and still be the size of a dime? I bet they have terrible backaches.

And I don't care what the longevity tests say - sooner or later anything that big is gonna start drooping.
 
2014-07-21 05:43:09 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Unoriginal_Username: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.

Link


Ok, so I'm not the smartest person in the world, but that sorta makes sense? Maybe? I think I need a few drinks and a sheet of LSD to be totally sure.
 
2014-07-21 06:44:25 PM  

Meatybrain: How can you be a DDDDD and still be the size of a dime? I bet they have terrible backaches.


That's not how it works. You just made them DDDDD when they are only D. Otherwise, a 32C would be CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC.

Cup size is D, band size is 5 (still larger than a dime). And a 5D is not the same cup size as a 36D.

/damned "Come bra shopping with me" ex-girlfriend
 
2014-07-21 06:52:04 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: dittybopper: The future will have 5-D storage discs the size of a dime that can hold 360TB that will outlast the human race

And 40 years after that they'll be obsolete and no one will have working equipment that can read them.

/Have an 8" floppy disk that I can't read anymore.
//Book from the same year (1982)?  Still readable.

Well 40 years after the extinction of the human race, no one will care.

But seriously, the major reason we don't have means of reading 8" floppies anymore is they couldn't store enough data to be worth recovering. They could hold, what, a few text spreadsheets and maybe part of a primitive game? Everyone who actually needed the data from their floppy collections transferred it to 3.5" disks or CDs decades ago. Unless it was for a criminal case or something, and then they could probably find a means of extracting the magnetic pattern from the disk and decoding it.

Even if this holographic disk thingy is surpassed by a storage technology that can hold orders of magnitude more data, that doesn't change the fact it can hold a tenth of the library of congress' worth of information on one disk. There's still going to be stuff worth accessing if these become popular, even if we get really shiatty about data compression in the future.


The point I was making was that every time we move from one media form to another, we lose things. Maybe they aren't important, maybe they don't seem important to us but might be illuminating to future generations. Maybe there is some important information we've lost. Heck, the only clue I have to what is on that floppy is the label, which implies that it's old source code. But I have no way to tell if the label is accurate or not.

Maybe there is some amazing bit of code, or maybe someone recycled an old disk and wrote an amazing thesis to it (180 KB can store a lot of ASCII text). Maybe it's some smut from 1982. We just don't know.

On the other hand, I can open that book and read it immediately with nothing more special than my eyes. And even after bit rot has destroyed the data on that disk (if it hasn't already), the book will still be readable, perhaps even 100 years from now.
 
2014-07-21 07:00:32 PM  
My ATM collection can be preserved for all time, until the stars go dark. Where do I sign up?
 
2014-07-21 07:59:46 PM  
 
2014-07-21 08:35:01 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: 5D


What a 5D might look like

www.dslrfilmnoob.com
 
2014-07-21 08:52:00 PM  

LrdPhoenix: LrdPhoenix: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

It's a 3 dimensional array of objects that can each hold 3 bits in a single spot by altering different optical properties of the glass in that spot.  So, in order to define any spot mathematically, you need 5 coordinates, i.e. 5 dimensions, because there are two additional axes apart from just x,y, and z.

Oh, also the reason you only need 5 and not 6 axes are that 2 of the bits stored use the same property in different ways, and so use the same axis.


If you're that loose about what "dimension" means, anything can be pretty much any number of dimensions.  I can index the set of 6-digit natural numbers by the numbers themselves on a 1-dimensional line, or I can index them by each of their digits, creating a 6 dimensional arrangement.

Dimension implies some kind of continuity or unboundedness.  The "depth" dimension is just the 3 layers, and though it doesn't describe exactly how the "nanostructuring" thingees are 2-D, they can only hold 3 bits each, so they're not exactly tiny little Flatlands all of their own.

/If you chop a brick in half and stack the halves on each other, it doesn't magically become 4 dimensional.
//Munkres' Topology Theorem 50.6: Every compact subspace of N-dimensional euclidean space has topological dimension at most N.
 
2014-07-21 09:04:44 PM  
Someday we'll be able to store the sum of human knowledge in a device the size of a pebble.It will also look like a pebble. Civilization will collapse. One of our descendants will find the pebble and think it looks neat. He'll polish it, shape it a bit, drill a hole through it, stick it on a necklace, pick up his spear and wander off along the beach.
 
2014-07-21 09:05:41 PM  

RoomFullOfMonkeys: Someday we'll be able to store the sum of human knowledge in a device the size of a pebble.It will also look like a pebble. Civilization will collapse. One of our descendants will find the pebble and think it looks neat. He'll polish it, shape it a bit, drill a hole through it, stick it on a necklace, pick up his spear and wander off along the beach.


P.S. This might have already happened. Check your rock tumblers.
 
2014-07-21 11:26:35 PM  

RoomFullOfMonkeys: RoomFullOfMonkeys: Someday we'll be able to store the sum of human knowledge in a device the size of a pebble.It will also look like a pebble. Civilization will collapse. One of our descendants will find the pebble and think it looks neat. He'll polish it, shape it a bit, drill a hole through it, stick it on a necklace, pick up his spear and wander off along the beach.

P.S. This might have already happened. Check your rock tumblers.


Douglas Adams? What are you doing here? I thought you died.
 
2014-07-22 12:13:08 AM  

dittybopper: On the other hand, I can open that book and read it immediately with nothing more special than my eyes. And even after bit rot has destroyed the data on that disk (if it hasn't already), the book will still be readable, perhaps even 100 years from now.


To be fair, the information in a book can be destroyed by plain old rot. A little humidity, too much direct sunlight, God forbid a fire or black mold getting involved...

These glass disks should be more or less impervious to their environment, and depending on how they structure the data, they might still be partly recoverable even if they were smashed.

/Of course the really cool part is they only need ordinary silica glass, so for a big enough investment you could store all your diabolical secrets in any object you wanted....
 
2014-07-22 04:53:40 AM  

Unoriginal_Username: dookdookdook: So by "5 dimensional", you mean a 3 dimensional array of 2 dimensional objects.  Yeah, that's not how dimensions work.

That's what I was thinking.
I'd always thought the 4th dimension was time and wasn't sure what the 5th dimension was, movement?

/Probably wrong and will be corrected, but that's ok.


The 5th Dimension was a music group.
 
2014-07-22 11:46:31 AM  
...and we'll never get to see it on the consumer market, because once everybody has one, there won't be a need to replace them by the dozen (as Google currently does) when they fail, and that just isn't profitable.
The storage media industry thrives heavily on the fact that current storage methods have a finite lifespan.  Once everybody had one or more of these things, imagine how quickly the big names in storage would start folding when Joe User doesn't need a new hard drive every couple of years, and his current drive is so reliable that he can just move it from system to system as he upgrades.

Yeah, we'll never see this.  CIA, on the other hand, is probably already moving to ensure they've got first pick of any production efforts.  I'm sure they'd just love to have storage capability that has that kind of longevity.
 
2014-07-22 11:57:55 AM  

ItachiNai: ...and we'll never get to see it on the consumer market, because


Because they aren't re-writable. They are useful for archival purposes only, which is great for DVDs or the Library or Congress, but bad for information that is subject to change.

dittybopper: Maybe there is some amazing bit of code, or maybe someone recycled an old disk and wrote an amazing thesis to it (180 KB can store a lot of ASCII text). Maybe it's some smut from 1982. We just don't know.


Are you a hoarder, perchance?

LrdPhoenix: It's a 3 dimensional array of objects that can each hold 3 bits in a single spot by altering different optical properties of the glass in that spot.  So, in order to define any spot mathematically, you need 5 coordinates, i.e. 5 dimensions, because there are two additional axes apart from just x,y, and z.


Exactly. Due to the prismatic arrangement of the atoms in the glass, the same space yields different information depending on the angle it is looked at, which is why it has such a high capacity.
 
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