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2014-07-21 02:59:38 PM  

moothemagiccow: I doubt it, but either way, dogs are assholes of the highest degree. It's pretty much "I demand you stop ignoring me!" which has all the charm of a stalker or rapist.


A friend has two Labs about a year and a half old.  They are sweet dogs and are hysterical to watch play/wrestle together.  However as friendly as they may be, they are tiresome to deal with and because of that I don't visit nearly as often as I used to.  They bark, they jump, they rake, they beg, they mouth things and leave drool all over them, and almost constantly demand attention... things that a non-dog-owner isn't accustomed to dealing with, and frankly (at least in my case) find REALLY irritating REALLY fast, and a lot of dog owners don't seem to understand that.
 
2014-07-21 03:00:21 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm all for eliminating violent dog breeds as long as we also eliminate human "breeds" that commit the vast majority of violent crime

Which humans have been bred for violence? The Spartans are dead.


There is that one sector from hunger games.
 
2014-07-21 03:02:52 PM  

jst3p: Headso: kapaso: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Headso: racist red neck conservatives and gun grabby statists can come together on this issue to outlaw a dog they don't like, so that's nice.

You gotta admit it's highly amusing seeing people get so easily manipulated by the media...

Yes it's the media that has influenced me, not my lying eyes.

outlawing pitbulls is like outlawing a certain brand of gun though. You could probably put some stats together that show that most crimes are committed with a specific handgun. so let's ban just this handgun?

This is a great comparison because those guns that are used to kill people do it all by themselves.


I would ague that the person who robs someone with their gun is also the person who turns their dog into something that will attack and own it in a place that puts people at risk. So you outlaw glocks and pittbulls and they are on to S&W and rhodesian ridgebacks  or whatever.
 
2014-07-21 03:05:08 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Headso: kapaso: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Headso: racist red neck conservatives and gun grabby statists can come together on this issue to outlaw a dog they don't like, so that's nice.

You gotta admit it's highly amusing seeing people get so easily manipulated by the media...

Yes it's the media that has influenced me, not my lying eyes.

outlawing pitbulls is like outlawing a certain brand of gun though. You could probably put some stats together that show that most crimes are committed with a specific handgun. so let's ban just this handgun?

This is a great comparison because those guns that are used to kill people do it all by themselves.

I would ague that the person who robs someone with their gun is also the person who turns their dog into something that will attack and own it in a place that puts people at risk. So you outlaw glocks and pittbulls and they are on to S&W and rhodesian ridgebacks  or whatever.


You can argue it all you want can you demonstrate it to be true?
 
2014-07-21 03:07:15 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: I've been thinking of getting a pit bull but I only have so much money and I really want a neck tattoo. Sometimes in life you have to make hard choices.

Do what I did, just miss a couple child support payments, then get a neck tat of your your pitty


Outstanding!
 
2014-07-21 03:07:20 PM  

jst3p: pat34us: jst3p: kdawg7736: Did not read the article, but I will say this time and time again.

It is the owner, not the breed.

The problem is that this breed, when owned by bad owners, disproportionately kills people.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 544x530]

Golden Retriever? Off to Google I go.

Here's one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby -r ipped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711


The baby was in a swing when Lucky, a golden retriever-Labrador mix, bit the child several times and tore off his legs, authorities said.
The child's father, Quintin, was in the home at the time, police said. He was in another room asleep with the family's 3-year-old and their other dog.

Something doesn't add up
 
2014-07-21 03:09:41 PM  

Kuroshin: Good job Subby!  Now *that's* how you troll!

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If it really was a troll thread, I'd have seen a "Our Gang dog Petey is a pitbull.  scary?" picture by now

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-07-21 03:14:30 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: If it really was a troll thread, I'd have seen a "Our Gang dog Petey is a pitbull. scary?" picture by now


Ironically, my first exposure to the whole "pitbulls are a dangerous breed" meme was a schoolyard rumor that Petey was poisoned by a stagehand after attacking one of the children.

Dunno if theres any truth to it.
 
2014-07-21 03:14:41 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: rbuzby: It seems like dogs bred for fighting could be more dangerous than dogs bred for hunting or companionship.

Man, I am learning so much about my pit bull today! Thanks Fark!


You are welcome!  It's pretty much common sense.
 
2014-07-21 03:17:07 PM  

rbuzby: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: rbuzby: It seems like dogs bred for fighting could be more dangerous than dogs bred for hunting or companionship.

Man, I am learning so much about my pit bull today! Thanks Fark!

You are welcome!  It's pretty much common sense.


You'll understand my confusion considering my dog, which I learned today is "bred for fighting" only wants to cuddle. I'm sure she's a ticking time bomb though :)
 
2014-07-21 03:18:52 PM  

jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Headso: kapaso: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Headso: racist red neck conservatives and gun grabby statists can come together on this issue to outlaw a dog they don't like, so that's nice.

You gotta admit it's highly amusing seeing people get so easily manipulated by the media...

Yes it's the media that has influenced me, not my lying eyes.

outlawing pitbulls is like outlawing a certain brand of gun though. You could probably put some stats together that show that most crimes are committed with a specific handgun. so let's ban just this handgun?

This is a great comparison because those guns that are used to kill people do it all by themselves.

I would ague that the person who robs someone with their gun is also the person who turns their dog into something that will attack and own it in a place that puts people at risk. So you outlaw glocks and pittbulls and they are on to S&W and rhodesian ridgebacks  or whatever.

You can argue it all you want can you demonstrate it to be true?


During the 70s and early 80s german shepherds were the #1 killer dog now it is pittbulls the only way that could be is if humans were at fault.
 
2014-07-21 03:20:29 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Headso: kapaso: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Headso: racist red neck conservatives and gun grabby statists can come together on this issue to outlaw a dog they don't like, so that's nice.

You gotta admit it's highly amusing seeing people get so easily manipulated by the media...

Yes it's the media that has influenced me, not my lying eyes.

outlawing pitbulls is like outlawing a certain brand of gun though. You could probably put some stats together that show that most crimes are committed with a specific handgun. so let's ban just this handgun?

This is a great comparison because those guns that are used to kill people do it all by themselves.

I would ague that the person who robs someone with their gun is also the person who turns their dog into something that will attack and own it in a place that puts people at risk. So you outlaw glocks and pittbulls and they are on to S&W and rhodesian ridgebacks  or whatever.

You can argue it all you want can you demonstrate it to be true?

During the 70s and early 80s german shepherds were the #1 killer dog now it is pittbulls the only way that could be is if humans were at fault.


Did they actually kill with the same frequency? They were the #1  attack dog but they don't seem to be as effective at killing people.
 
2014-07-21 03:22:05 PM  
A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners
 
2014-07-21 03:26:53 PM  

Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners


/CSB
 
2014-07-21 03:31:51 PM  

Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners


3/10
 
2014-07-21 03:34:50 PM  

happydude45: You mean there are Muslim dogs? I had no idea.


They are usually called Afghans.
 
2014-07-21 03:34:53 PM  

Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once


Why would a dog attack your Swedish furniture?
 
2014-07-21 03:35:50 PM  

pat34us: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby -r ipped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711


Did you see the picture of the dog?

assets.nydailynews.com


I love it when shelters say "XX-Labrador mix," because usually that means pit bull mix.  You can see it in the nose and the eyes - that's a pit mix.
 
2014-07-21 03:36:53 PM  

evilmousse: if we're going to be species-ist, i know of a mammal that walks upright and inflicts uncomparably more suffering on others, let's get all them caged up and euthanized before moving on to the dogs


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-21 03:37:39 PM  
 
2014-07-21 03:38:58 PM  

stonelotus: Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners

/CSB


Thanks. Here's another: concert in city park. Crowds flock to tent due to rain. Couple bring their pitbulls into tent near children. Lightning strikes. Dogs get upset and lunge at children. Entire crowd tells owners to leave NOW and take their psycho dogs with them or die. Again...VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners
 
2014-07-21 03:39:50 PM  

walkerhound: pat34us: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby -r ipped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

Did you see the picture of the dog?

[assets.nydailynews.com image 425x319]


I love it when shelters say "XX-Labrador mix," because usually that means pit bull mix.  You can see it in the nose and the eyes - that's a pit mix.


It just looks like a lab to me. The fur would most likely be shorter if it was part pit bull, and the head would be heavier. And labs normally have that square muzzle.
 
2014-07-21 03:40:28 PM  

Stoj: 2nd one to hit the news... past 24 hours?


American Staffordshire terrier, which resembles a pit bull.

lovepet.com.br
 
2014-07-21 03:41:31 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners

3/10


So now a true story is trolling? Whatever doom guy.
 
2014-07-21 03:42:16 PM  
I hate to see dogs put down, but I would support an effort to have this breed die out.
 
2014-07-21 03:42:48 PM  

Stoj: 2nd one to hit the news... past 24 hours?


Look you need to understand that that baby was likely being aggressive towards the loving pitbull.
 
2014-07-21 03:45:25 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Stoj: 2nd one to hit the news... past 24 hours?

Look you need to understand that that baby was likely being aggressive towards the loving pitbull.


Yeah, parents fault. Should have taught that seven month old how to act around animals.
 
2014-07-21 03:48:35 PM  

destrip: Me wants some Neapolitan Mastiff.

Which part of it is strawberry?


The part that's pink.
 
2014-07-21 03:51:04 PM  
I May Be Crazy But...:It just looks like a lab to me. The fur would most likely be shorter if it was part pit bull, and the head would be heavier. And labs normally have that square muzzle.

Neither labs nor golden's have pink, nude mucosal surfaces like the dog in the photo, unlike light colored pit bulls.  And coat length means fark-all when we're talking about a cross-breed.

/we could argue about this ad nauseum, the point is shelters love to call a pit bull mix a "Lab mix."
 
2014-07-21 03:53:35 PM  

walkerhound: I love it when shelters say "XX-Labrador mix," because usually that means pit bull mix.  You can see it in the nose and the eyes - that's a pit mix.


They do that because you can't get homeowners insurance sometimes, it seems to be based on the location. I have a pittbull or whatever mixed with a black lab, he's really old now 13+ but when we got him that was the only kind of dog they had at the shelter. We checked into it beforehand and our NY homeowners wouldn't allow pittbulls but the insurance we have on our cape house in MA did allow it. The funny thing is in NY we have a ton of land, many acres, but in MA we only have a small lot. but it didn't matter anyway  because the shelter always just puts the other breed as the type of dog so ours was a "black lab mix" according to the insurance. This same thing would happen if they banned pittbulls, suddenly every dog would be a mutt.
 
2014-07-21 03:54:31 PM  

pat34us: jst3p: pat34us: jst3p: kdawg7736: Did not read the article, but I will say this time and time again.

It is the owner, not the breed.

The problem is that this breed, when owned by bad owners, disproportionately kills people.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 544x530]

Golden Retriever? Off to Google I go.

Here's one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby -r ipped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

The baby was in a swing when Lucky, a golden retriever-Labrador mix, bit the child several times and tore off his legs, authorities said.
The child's father, Quintin, was in the home at the time, police said. He was in another room asleep with the family's 3-year-old and their other dog.

Something doesn't add up


The other dog was a pit, but it obviously didn't do it as it was found licking blood off the child's legs in an attempt to heal him. The lab mix was in the corner with a guilty look on its face.
 
2014-07-21 03:54:43 PM  

walkerhound: I May Be Crazy But...:It just looks like a lab to me. The fur would most likely be shorter if it was part pit bull, and the head would be heavier. And labs normally have that square muzzle.

Neither labs nor golden's have pink, nude mucosal surfaces like the dog in the photo, unlike light colored pit bulls.  And coat length means fark-all when we're talking about a cross-breed.

/we could argue about this ad nauseum, the point is shelters love to call a pit bull mix a "Lab mix."


Definitely has that pitbull look in the face and skull shape. Probably has the pitbull toughguy brain too...
 
2014-07-21 03:56:07 PM  

walkerhound: I May Be Crazy But...:It just looks like a lab to me. The fur would most likely be shorter if it was part pit bull, and the head would be heavier. And labs normally have that square muzzle.

Neither labs nor golden's have pink, nude mucosal surfaces like the dog in the photo, unlike light colored pit bulls.  And coat length means fark-all when we're talking about a cross-breed.

/we could argue about this ad nauseum, the point is shelters love to call a pit bull mix a "Lab mix."


Eh, a big square chested terrier, whatever you name it can do some damage if it's not properly trained, treated, or otherwise gets riled up for whatever reason.

That said, the only dog bite I've witnessed in the last 40 years was a tiny poodle that bit my dad, while he was playing with it.  Obviously, no one really worries too much about tiny poodle bites.
 
2014-07-21 03:56:18 PM  

Friction8r: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners

3/10

So now a true story is trolling? Whatever doom guy.


I thought you were trolling since you mentioned an Akita, which are way more aggressive than pits
 
2014-07-21 03:56:40 PM  

Headso: This same thing would happen if they banned pittbulls, suddenly every dog would be a mutt.


Then eventually pit bulls would be bred (bread?) out of existence.
 
2014-07-21 03:58:23 PM  
There is nothing to lose by letting certain breeds die out.

"But we need fighting dogs to look tough!" -  the cry of the irresponsible.
 
2014-07-21 04:00:14 PM  

walkerhound: I May Be Crazy But...:It just looks like a lab to me. The fur would most likely be shorter if it was part pit bull, and the head would be heavier. And labs normally have that square muzzle.

Neither labs nor golden's have pink, nude mucosal surfaces like the dog in the photo, unlike light colored pit bulls.  And coat length means fark-all when we're talking about a cross-breed.

/we could argue about this ad nauseum, the point is shelters love to call a pit bull mix a "Lab mix."


That's true that often a Lab/Pit Bull mix is often called a Lab mix. I don't agree with you about this particular one, but that doesn't matter.
 
2014-07-21 04:02:13 PM  

Carousel Beast: Saborlas: I'd like to know more about the animal RAISING these dogs. Dogs tend to have to be trained to attack people without provocation, and most animals put up with a fair amount of provocation from small children due to instinctively knowing that they're little kids.

Da fuq?

You are amazingly incorrect, sir.


He is incorrect, but if you improperly train, mistreat, and ignore any dog you're going to have a problem.

The problem is shiatty people think pitbulls are BA because the are strong and look cool. If it were golden retrievers the same thing would happen. In fact most dog attacks are chuahuas(sp?), but due to their size they don't cause as much damage. It all stems from the same thing though: people not training their dogs. Chiuahua's are tiny so they're easy to control and people see them as accesories so they don't train them.

It's unfortunate that such a light is cast on bully breeds, it's causing a huge issue of dogs being abandoned, which then comes full circle as a dog is left on the street untrained and dogs getting hungry and desperate.
 
2014-07-21 04:02:28 PM  
Sure, not all pits are killers. But how many children do we have to save before it is worth it? One... two... three?
 
2014-07-21 04:03:20 PM  

Ker_Thwap: That said, the only dog bite I've witnessed in the last 40 years was a tiny poodle that bit my dad, while he was playing with it.  Obviously, no one really worries too much about tiny poodle bites.


I work with animals for a living, and have been bitten three times.  Once, a dying Malamute.  The second, a poodle, and the third a Westie.  All of them had really bad teeth - the worst of my worries.  Of course, I've been much more careful around dangerous-acting Belgians, pit bulls, and Filas than I was with the others.
 
2014-07-21 04:03:53 PM  

jst3p: Stoj: 2nd one to hit the news... past 24 hours?

American Staffordshire terrier, which resembles a pit bull.

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Link

Link
 
2014-07-21 04:04:13 PM  

jst3p: Headso: This same thing would happen if they banned pittbulls, suddenly every dog would be a mutt.

Then eventually pit bulls would be bred (bread?) out of existence.


on paper yeah.
 
2014-07-21 04:06:35 PM  

Stoj: jst3p: Stoj: 2nd one to hit the news... past 24 hours?

American Staffordshire terrier, which resembles a pit bull.

[lovepet.com.br image 550x230]

Link

Link


Very interesting, thanks!
 
2014-07-21 04:07:35 PM  

Headso: jst3p: Headso: This same thing would happen if they banned pittbulls, suddenly every dog would be a mutt.

Then eventually pit bulls would be bred (bread?) out of existence.

on paper yeah.


If banning the breed would have no effect why do you oppose it?
 
2014-07-21 04:07:52 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Friction8r: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Friction8r: A pitbull attacked my Akita once...bad mistake. My Akita reversed the hold, put the pitbull down and had him by the throat when I got there. I grabbed the pitbull by the collar and launched him like a discus about 30 feet. The owner biatched until everyone at the dog park told her to get her stupid dog out of the park. VERY satisfying!
/screw pitbulls
//and their ghetto owners

3/10

So now a true story is trolling? Whatever doom guy.

I thought you were trolling since you mentioned an Akita, which are way more aggressive than pits


I can see your point. They WERE bred to hunt bears. I had him since he was a puppy and raised him around kids and other dogs. He was very sweet to all except the pit that attacked him. But I guess some pitbull owners could say the same thing if they nurtured their dogs from puppyhood. Still, from what I've witnessed, most pitbull owners are thugs and chose that breed to posture their thuggish ways.
 
2014-07-21 04:08:52 PM  

evilmousse: if we're going to be species-ist, i know of a mammal that walks upright and inflicts uncomparably more suffering on others, let's get all them caged up and euthanized before moving on to the dogs


Let's start with the ones calling for the heads of all pit bulls.
 
2014-07-21 04:11:26 PM  

blindio: kindms: blindio: When it comes to the breed vs. owner debate, I can't help but think of a special little hispanic girl we all know who offers the timeless suggestion of "Por que no los dos"

Maybe it's the breed that was selectively cultivated over centuries to produce a powerful animal prone to vicious behavior.

Perhaps it's the owners, as such a breed has a tendency to gravitate to people who make a lot of other poor life choices.

Either way, if you take an animal bread to be a dangerous and efficient fighter and pair it with someone who thinks it's funny to have it attack a tire swing you might end up with an animal and owner combination that is not only likely to end badly, it's inevitable.

Tells us more Jimmy The Greek

;)

I can only assume that you're referring to Jimmy The Greek's often overlooked side career as a professional dog breeder.


Sorry. It just struck me as funny
 
2014-07-21 04:11:42 PM  
It's sooo hard to teach kids not to touch things in other people's homes, isn't it?
 
2014-07-21 04:12:56 PM  
Pi-bulls have killed more people then guns ever will, yet they will let anyone own one.


It's time for common sense dog safety.
 
2014-07-21 04:13:40 PM  

jst3p: Headso: jst3p: Headso: This same thing would happen if they banned pittbulls, suddenly every dog would be a mutt.

Then eventually pit bulls would be bred (bread?) out of existence.

on paper yeah.

If banning the breed would have no effect why do you oppose it?


I oppose banning the breed for the same reasons I oppose banning the weed. It's just legislation that hurts poor people and makes people do end runs around it but won't actually take the controlled substance off the streets.
 
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