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2014-07-20 07:53:36 PM  
Complaints that this is an invasion of privacy and is therefore worse than the catcalls in three, two, one...
 
2014-07-20 07:54:35 PM  
This is an invasion of privacy and therefore worse than the catcalls.
 
2014-07-20 07:58:09 PM  
I'm still trying to get that really rare catcall rookie card.
 
2014-07-20 07:59:06 PM  

fusillade762: This is an invasion of privacy and therefore worse than the catcalls.


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2014-07-20 07:59:55 PM  
I liked Kim Catcall as Valeris in Star Trek VI.
 
2014-07-20 08:04:17 PM  
Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.
 
2014-07-20 08:19:07 PM  
Hey! This is an invasion of privacy! Therefore, it is worse than the catcalls!
 
2014-07-20 08:22:22 PM  
I just say "Hi" and sometimes strike up a conversation with women I meet in public, if they are interested in chatting with me.

Nothing annoyed me more while on active duty (mostly while working with Army guys in joint assignments) than married men catcalling to single women while I was with them. God, screwed my chances of talking with the women later as I was associated with the married asshats. I was single at those timeframes too.
 
2014-07-20 08:33:43 PM  

Snarfangel: I'm still trying to get that really rare catcall rookie card.


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2014-07-20 08:50:40 PM  

AirForceVet: I just say "Hi" and sometimes strike up a conversation with women I meet in public, if they are interested in chatting with me.

Nothing annoyed me more while on active duty (mostly while working with Army guys in joint assignments) than married men catcalling to single women while I was with them. God, screwed my chances of talking with the women later as I was associated with the married asshats. I was single at those timeframes too.


When I was going to college in the USVI, the girls and I knew not to go out on Navy nights. One night we went to a mainly locals club and we didn't realize they were in town, there were about 10 guys on shore leave there.

A guy walked up to me and said, "I really want to smell your pu$$y". I looked at him closely and said, "Why hello, C.B., class of '87 from ______."

It was some guy I went to HS with and was he ever totally mortified. Good. When I saw him in our hometown a couple of years later, he apologized again to the point of tears.

I used to get harrassed by men daily, it's much less frequent now and I'm more than happy about that. I appreciate this woman's efforts.
 
2014-07-20 08:50:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.


At its core, the deepest most meaningful of human connection is sexual.Think about it. People marry marry the one whom they like to fark the most. Gays are battling furiously for this right, and they can't procreate with each other, so it's clearly the sex not the children that is the core of the connection.

Thus attempts to engage in sex are overtures to create a more meaningful relationship. If someone flirts with you, they are taking the first steps to join you on what might be the greatest journey of both your lives. If no one'shiatting on you, no one's trying to join with you, and you will die alone.

If you don't like the way an individual is flirting that's your business, but you can't begrudge flirting in general because someone's got to make the first move and would you rather be catcalled or duckpiled?

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2014-07-20 08:59:10 PM  

doglover: If no one'shiatting on you, no one's trying to join with you, and you will die alone.


Oh filter, how I love thee. Let me count the ways.
 
2014-07-20 08:59:14 PM  

doglover: If you don't like the way an individual is flirting that's your business, but you can't begrudge flirting in general because someone's got to make the first move and would you rather be catcalled or duckpiled?


The issue here is that what's described in the article is not flirting.  Flirting is collaborative and respectful and involves a mutual establishment of boundaries of acceptable bahavior.  Catcalls and harassment in general are ultimately about control and that comes out in the responses of many of these guys.
 
2014-07-20 09:02:51 PM  

Mentat: doglover: If you don't like the way an individual is flirting that's your business, but you can't begrudge flirting in general because someone's got to make the first move and would you rather be catcalled or duckpiled?

The issue here is that what's described in the article is not flirting.  Flirting is collaborative and respectful and involves a mutual establishment of boundaries of acceptable bahavior.  Catcalls and harassment in general are ultimately about control and that comes out in the responses of many of these guys.


Thank you.  You said it far better than I would have.

Its not about flirting, it's about objectification.
 
2014-07-20 09:05:36 PM  
Guy on block 1, "Hey baby, flash me that pretty smile!"

Second block, "Looking good, looking good."

Third block, "Smile girl!"

Forth block, "Ooooh you got it going on!"

Fifth, "Can I get a smile?"

Me to last-straw guy, "My mother just died."

(She hadn't, but I was so pissed off by that point I wanted to freak him out and it worked.)
 
2014-07-20 09:09:44 PM  

Mentat: Flirting is collaborative and respectful and involves a mutual establishment of boundaries of acceptable bahavior.


Acceptable behavior and boundaries that change GREATLY depending on the desirability of the mate.

If I come up to you, and say "Excuse me, ma'am, would you care to go to dinner? It's okay if you say no." you're gonna feel dirty and take a Silkwood shower afterwards if I look like this:

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and even if you decline, you'll be happy if I say "Come with me to dinner." if I look like this:

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At the base, it's all about biology. Society is build up on top of it later. Catcalls don't exist because of control or whatever. They exist because 1/100 girls respond positively and it's a lot easier to say "Hey baby, let's sex now." 99 times and fail than to get a job as a famous rock star.
 
2014-07-20 09:18:41 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.


I would imagine those lighting bolts shooting out of your vagina back them right the fark up too.
 
2014-07-20 09:23:02 PM  

unyon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.

I would imagine those lighting bolts shooting out of your vagina back them right the fark up too.


I only do that to the ones who  really piss me off.  Or ask nicely enough.
 
2014-07-20 09:26:35 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: unyon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.

I would imagine those lighting bolts shooting out of your vagina back them right the fark up too.

I only do that to the ones who  really piss me off.  Or ask nicely enough.


I wish I could shoot thunderbolts from an orifice.

You know like when you're on the train and your phone is at 13% battery, but you really need to take a phone call sometime in the next few hours, but you don't know exactly when?

That's when having electric glands in your nose or something would really help.
 
2014-07-20 09:40:42 PM  

doglover: Acceptable behavior and boundaries that change GREATLY depending on the desirability of the mate.


Which has zero to do with the behavior described in the article.  The guys in the article all but admit that it's about control for them.
 
2014-07-20 09:54:11 PM  
doglover: Catcalls don't exist because of control or whatever. They exist because 1/100 girls respond positively and it's a lot easier to say "Hey baby, let's sex now." 99 times and fail than to get a job as a famous rock star.

No, catcalls exist because gullible people believe they work 1 time out of 100, even if the only evidence they have of that is something they saw in a series of Pick Up videos they spent $29.99 (plus tax and shipping) on. They don't work in reality, and you'd be rightly freaked out if you said (per the example posted up thread) "I really want to smell your pussy" and the woman said, "absolutely, let's go into this dark alleyway. You first."

Well, that reason  and the power play. So, basically gullible losers and douchebags. Certainly no one who doesn't fit those categories uses them.
 
2014-07-20 10:04:17 PM  

Theaetetus: doglover: Catcalls don't exist because of control or whatever. They exist because 1/100 girls respond positively and it's a lot easier to say "Hey baby, let's sex now." 99 times and fail than to get a job as a famous rock star.

No, catcalls exist because gullible people believe they work 1 time out of 100, even if the only evidence they have of that is something they saw in a series of Pick Up videos they spent $29.99 (plus tax and shipping) on. They don't work in reality, and you'd be rightly freaked out if you said (per the example posted up thread) "I really want to smell your pussy" and the woman said, "absolutely, let's go into this dark alleyway. You first."

Well, that reason  and the power play. So, basically gullible losers and douchebags. Certainly no one who doesn't fit those categories uses them.


All 32 flavors of this.
 
2014-07-20 10:09:20 PM  
There will come a day when it doesn't happen anymore. For now, give them the finger and keep walking.
 
2014-07-20 10:22:17 PM  
So, ok serious question.  I've got serious social anxiety problems.  So the last thing I ever do is talk to or even acknowledge an attractive girl.  In fact I look away and try to make it seem like I'm ignoring them.  They don't need me harassing them or anything because I'm...well, I'll leave that there I'm getting into some other stuff.

But what I get from this video is that compliments, even innocuous ones like 'You look nice' or 'You're pretty' would be met with 'Why the **** do you think I'm here for you to ogle?'.  Probably not externally.  But at least internally, all women are thinking 'Holy shiat not another farktard who thinks I'm on this planet just to be objectified and looked at in a sexual manner, talking to me, trying to get into my pants'.

So, I'm right, right?  I see a pretty girl, I just look away and GTFO.  I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.  Don't want to bother anyone.  Sorry if you read all this and it bored you.
 
2014-07-20 11:01:34 PM  

Roook: So, ok serious question.  I've got serious social anxiety problems.  So the last thing I ever do is talk to or even acknowledge an attractive girl.  In fact I look away and try to make it seem like I'm ignoring them.  They don't need me harassing them or anything because I'm...well, I'll leave that there I'm getting into some other stuff.

But what I get from this video is that compliments, even innocuous ones like 'You look nice' or 'You're pretty' would be met with 'Why the **** do you think I'm here for you to ogle?'.  Probably not externally.  But at least internally, all women are thinking 'Holy shiat not another farktard who thinks I'm on this planet just to be objectified and looked at in a sexual manner, talking to me, trying to get into my pants'.

So, I'm right, right?  I see a pretty girl, I just look away and GTFO.  I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.  Don't want to bother anyone.  Sorry if you read all this and it bored you.


It's all going to depend on the person, but I'd say the majority of women are not going to respond positively to random dudes on the street no matter what they say - most will probably ignore them.  However. there is a huge difference between going up to a girl and saying "Hi, I'm so and so and I just wanted to come over and meet you" or "Hi, how's it going" than yelling "nice tits" or following her down the street after she's ignored your advances.  Most women aren't going to be offended by a guy telling him they are beautiful and leaving it at that, it's the minority who think that this somehow earns them the right to have a conversation with the woman and then get aggressive or even just persistent about it after she's made it clear she isn't interested.  Those guys are the problem and it does make women a little more on edge in general when it comes to strange men approaching them.  Basically, jerks ruin it for the genuinely nice guys who just want to meet a girl unfortunately.
 
2014-07-20 11:01:45 PM  
No pictures of the woman in question?  Not fair.  I'm wondering if she's wearing a micro miniskirt in public or a low cut blouse and has huge cleavage - first reactions are the most honest ones.  Cuz you know if she was wearing a trenchcoat this would be a non-issue.

/There's more going on here than meets the eye.
//Dress like an attention whore... your going to get attention.
 
2014-07-20 11:02:05 PM  
she sounds like a biatch. any one of those fine men would have been happy to take her into the nearest rest room to have her service them. surely.
 
2014-07-20 11:02:56 PM  

Roook: So, ok serious question.  I've got serious social anxiety problems.  So the last thing I ever do is talk to or even acknowledge an attractive girl.  In fact I look away and try to make it seem like I'm ignoring them.  They don't need me harassing them or anything because I'm...well, I'll leave that there I'm getting into some other stuff.

But what I get from this video is that compliments, even innocuous ones like 'You look nice' or 'You're pretty' would be met with 'Why the **** do you think I'm here for you to ogle?'.  Probably not externally.  But at least internally, all women are thinking 'Holy shiat not another farktard who thinks I'm on this planet just to be objectified and looked at in a sexual manner, talking to me, trying to get into my pants'.

So, I'm right, right?  I see a pretty girl, I just look away and GTFO.  I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.  Don't want to bother anyone.  Sorry if you read all this and it bored you.


I feel the same way. Either you treat women respectfully by completely ignoring them, or try to be nice and risk be called a sexist male buffoon. Doesn't feel like there is much room for middle ground.
 
2014-07-20 11:05:22 PM  
Who the fark makes catcalls at people in public?  I've got shiat to do. Generally complete strangers are just people in my way when I'm trying to do something or go somewhere. I don't give a fark how attractive you think you are. Walk faster or move the fark over.
 
2014-07-20 11:06:49 PM  

sharphead: No pictures of the woman in question?  Not fair.  I'm wondering if she's wearing a micro miniskirt in public or a low cut blouse and has huge cleavage - first reactions are the most honest ones.  Cuz you know if she was wearing a trenchcoat this would be a non-issue.

/There's more going on here than meets the eye.
//Dress like an attention whore... your going to get attention.


It's easy to point to a woman's attire and blame her for the unwanted attention, but I can assure you that men catcall random women on the street no matter what they are wearing.  I'm sure the more provocatively she is dressed, the more attention she will get, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't get attention when not dressed provocatively and it doesn't mean that it's okay for people to harass her when she is.  Of course, these videos are fairly tame compared to some of the stuff I've seen guys do so they aren't the best examples of harassment in my opinion.  Of course the opinions they reveal after some probing is quite telling about their attitudes towards women in general.
 
2014-07-20 11:08:09 PM  

Roook: So, ok serious question.  I've got serious social anxiety problems.  So the last thing I ever do is talk to or even acknowledge an attractive girl.  In fact I look away and try to make it seem like I'm ignoring them.  They don't need me harassing them or anything because I'm...well, I'll leave that there I'm getting into some other stuff.

But what I get from this video is that compliments, even innocuous ones like 'You look nice' or 'You're pretty' would be met with 'Why the **** do you think I'm here for you to ogle?'.  Probably not externally.  But at least internally, all women are thinking 'Holy shiat not another farktard who thinks I'm on this planet just to be objectified and looked at in a sexual manner, talking to me, trying to get into my pants'.

So, I'm right, right?  I see a pretty girl, I just look away and GTFO.  I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.  Don't want to bother anyone.  Sorry if you read all this and it bored you.


Not sure if serious.
But no, 99% of women would not respond that way if you said "You look nice".
Common sense should tell you that.
Otherwise, you have worse problems than just social anxiety problems.
 
2014-07-20 11:08:13 PM  
I've never catcalled anyone nor been catcalled so these threads are always a bit of an education for me.

I do have friends who seem to think it's their mission in life to point out hawt ladies on the streets but that is generally done in a very low key sotto voice manner while out of earshot.

I can't imagine actually harassing women on the street like the dudes in the vids though. That's just rude.
 
2014-07-20 11:08:43 PM  
Typically this whole tumblr public shaming thing annoys me.  See 'mansitting' and 'forking dongles' to understand that.

However I do this this is a reasonable and smart response.
 
2014-07-20 11:09:17 PM  
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Hey lady, you're like a big bowl of butt soup with extra nipples!
 
2014-07-20 11:09:37 PM  
Thanks for the ride lady
 
2014-07-20 11:10:23 PM  
Catcalls are a way for men to feel like they're "trying" to hit on a women without actually putting anything on line. The catcall will fail, but the man doesn't feel bad because catcalls never work anyways. But hey, at least he "tried".
 
2014-07-20 11:10:46 PM  
Three simple rules:

1) Be handsome
2) Be attractive
3) Don't be unattractive

https://www.cloudy.ec/v/09b18e827769e
 
2014-07-20 11:10:48 PM  

quatchi: I've never catcalled anyone nor been catcalled so these threads are always a bit of an education for me.

I do have friends who seem to think it's their mission in life to point out hawt ladies on the streets but that is generally done in a very low key sotto voice manner while out of earshot.

I can't imagine actually harassing women on the street like the dudes in the vids though. That's just rude.


I've personally only experienced it in large cities (not to imply it doesn't happen elsewhere).  I'm not sure why that is, but it seems to be a thing.
 
2014-07-20 11:11:21 PM  
I get that she's playing hard to get, but there's a point at which it becomes a real turnoff.
 
2014-07-20 11:11:53 PM  
Also, I don't know if any of you're familiar with a "kilt check" but basically it's basically acceptable that when a man is wearing a kilt at a party, a lady (or gay guy, let's not be haters now) can stick their hand up your kilt to make sure you're not wearing any underwear. I've never met a guy who really minded. Not one. In fact, it seemed to be kind of bonus reason to wear a kilt. Not only is it cool, buy you get free groping to boot. It's a real ice breaker and it makes you feel like the cock of the walk, which is ironic because they're the ones feeling... anyway it's a thing I've experienced often in kilts.

How does that compare to catcalls?
 
2014-07-20 11:12:00 PM  
I lived in South America for along time and it when you told a random girl she was pretty, looked good, or sound, wow, you were generally met with a smile and thank you.
 
2014-07-20 11:12:02 PM  

some_beer_drinker: she sounds like a biatch. any one of those fine men would have been happy to take her into the nearest rest room to have her service them. surely.


You sound like the kind of
guy that could end up in one of her videos. Charming.
 
2014-07-20 11:12:07 PM  

doglover: Benevolent Misanthrope: unyon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.

I would imagine those lighting bolts shooting out of your vagina back them right the fark up too.

I only do that to the ones who  really piss me off.  Or ask nicely enough.

I wish I could shoot thunderbolts from an orifice.

You know like when you're on the train and your phone is at 13% battery, but you really need to take a phone call sometime in the next few hours, but you don't know exactly when?

That's when having electric glands in your nose or something would really help.


Electric Booger-Lu?

/I think it's funny, but it's snot
 
2014-07-20 11:12:08 PM  

sharphead: No pictures of the woman in question?  Not fair.  I'm wondering if she's wearing a micro miniskirt in public or a low cut blouse and has huge cleavage - first reactions are the most honest ones.  Cuz you know if she was wearing a trenchcoat this would be a non-issue.

/There's more going on here than meets the eye.
//Dress like an attention whore... your going to get attention.


fark you.
It's attitudes like yours that make women wear hijabs or trenchcoats or whatever.
I like to see women dressing hot, and hence I don't treat them like shiat.
If I want to get laid I communicate with them, not be an asshole.
It's guys like you who ruin it for everyone.
fark you.
 
2014-07-20 11:12:29 PM  
Cat Calls are nature's way of announcing that the individual is not fit for reproduction. Ladies, I realize it's a pain but think of it as really obvious sign that this idiot is not worth anyone's time.
 
2014-07-20 11:12:52 PM  

sharphead: No pictures of the woman in question?  Not fair.  I'm wondering if she's wearing a micro miniskirt in public or a low cut blouse and has huge cleavage - first reactions are the most honest ones.  Cuz you know if she was wearing a trenchcoat this would be a non-issue.

/There's more going on here than meets the eye.
//Dress like an attention whore... your going to get attention.


Good God. I think it's reproduced.
 
2014-07-20 11:13:15 PM  
OMG
I mean
OMG
She has decided to take offense and it doesn't matter if the intention is a compliment, she has decided that she wants to be offended.  You have got to be seriously chemically imbalanced or masochistic (why not both) or traumatized and damaged goods to run through life with that game plan.  Good luck with your autonomic nervous system after a decade or so of doing that to it.  You wont be getting compliments assaulted much longer.
 
2014-07-20 11:13:48 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Basically, the response is, "Hey, I'm a man.  You're a woman.  What else are you there for?  I have every right to objectify you.  How dare you say I shouldn't?"

I'm kind of glad I'm low on f*ckability points, actually.  When people interact with me, I get to be a human and not just a substitute realdoll.


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2014-07-20 11:14:48 PM  
FTFA: "It was then she had the idea for Cards Against Street Harassment - pocket-sized cards women could download, print, and hand out to their catcallers, explaining why the attention was unwanted without even speaking."

Hmm, CASH.  If given to the wrong person, it could also become GABE - Get a Black Eye.
 
2014-07-20 11:15:27 PM  
I understand her issues. Those jerks were objectifying her.

I'd at least have offered her a twenty for a quick screw. Just two people doing business.
 
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