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(KMOV St. Louis)   A homeowner tired of pranksters driving on to his lawn decides to lay a trap consisting of a board with nails hammered through it buried along the street and painted black to make it harder to see. And of course someone has a problem with this   (kmov.com) divider line 41
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2014-07-20 01:20:40 AM
9 votes:
Tearing up someone's lawn with your truck is not a "prank."
2014-07-20 12:16:41 AM
7 votes:
Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.
2014-07-20 02:13:58 AM
5 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.


I don't disagree that it is unwise, but if they fined him under an existing ordinance why do they need a new one. The article lacks important details.

In Mexico lots of people top their garden walls with broken glass, pieces of broken bottles mostly. It sure does deter people from climbing their walls. In Mexico it is not illegal, and they have fewer lawyers. Here that would never fly.
2014-07-20 02:32:55 AM
4 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.


s.hswstatic.com

Won't be set off by anything lighter than a vehicle. Problem solved.
2014-07-20 02:21:19 AM
4 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Triumph: Tearing up someone's lawn with your truck is not a "prank."

I agree, but that doesn't mean the homeowner can endanger others by booby trapping his property.


Well I'm not so sure I'd go that broadly. He could dig a two foot deep, two foot wide ditch sort of a big |_| that would catch the wheels of people driving on his lawn. It isn't a real danger to anyone, but it is a booby trap.

Personally I'd put up cameras and sue the owners of the vehicles and nail their asses to the wall in civil court. In many jurisdictions, and from a cursory reading of Missouri's 'trespass to realty' statute they can get 3X actual damages.

When my brother owned a laundromat kids used to break into the change machine. He put in security cameras, identified the kid and sued him and his parents. He won. They didn't want to pay. He had the kid's car towed by the sheriff. Then they paid, but they called him all sorts of names. The kid is now in prison for something completely unrelated.
2014-07-20 09:36:34 AM
3 votes:

jankyboy: Reminds me of when my grandfather used to toss thumbtacks onto a stretch of grass that was adjacent to his house. The grassy section did not belong to him, but he took care of it since the town ignored it.

He got tired of neighbors treating it like a dog park, walking their dogs there and not cleaning up afterward. Sucks that it was the dogs who paid the price.

/he was a grumpy man; he was a great man
//RIP grandpa


Your grandpa was not a great man. He was a busybody that tried to kill/wound dogs in what sounds like a city-owned public lot.
2014-07-20 07:58:16 AM
3 votes:
Step 1. Buy a huge, several ton boulder from the local quarry.
Step 2. Place it wherever people are always driving over your lawn.

Problem solved.  Call it a decoration, plant flowers around it.  Of course you'll then have to deal with kids spray painting it, but your original problem is solved.
2014-07-20 03:49:47 PM
2 votes:

cryinoutloud: Maggie_Luna: Your grandfather serving in a war does not excuse him or absolve him of any animal abuse he committed.

A possible thumbtack in the paw is animal abuse? I bet you're one of those people who puts the dog on a 3-foot leash and keeps pulling the dog in, in case it smells something offensive or gets its little feet dirty.


One: Way to extrapolate and create a farcical fantastical scenario based on my comment.

Two: If you do think hurting a dog is bad then clearly sociopathy runs in your family.

Three: No, I only pull dogs for their safety, health reasons (no garbage, fecal matter or decayed items that they may eat), or if we actually need to move on after five minutes of sniffing the same spot.
2014-07-20 02:08:39 PM
2 votes:

jankyboy: lackadaisicalfreakshow: jankyboy: Reminds me of when my grandfather used to toss thumbtacks onto a stretch of grass that was adjacent to his house. The grassy section did not belong to him, but he took care of it since the town ignored it.

He got tired of neighbors treating it like a dog park, walking their dogs there and not cleaning up afterward. Sucks that it was the dogs who paid the price.

/he was a grumpy man; he was a great man
//RIP grandpa

Your grandpa was not a great man. He was a busybody that tried to kill/wound dogs in what sounds like a city-owned public lot.

World War II veteran and received a Purple Heart. Died with a piece of a German grenade still in his leg after all those years. Yeah, probably could have handled the dogs better.

You can eat a dick.


Your grandfather serving in a war does not excuse him or absolve him of any animal abuse he committed.
2014-07-20 01:11:09 PM
2 votes:

LoneWolf343: Oh, look, it's that thread where a bunch of tiny-dicked rageaholics justify attempted murder in retribution for vandalism again.


I thought it was the thread where bleeding hearts defend criminals and tell people they are bad humans for not rolling over for said criminals.

Precious snowflakes indeed.

Free mumia!
2014-07-20 10:00:02 AM
2 votes:

MBrady: jankyboy: Reminds me of when my grandfather used to toss thumbtacks onto a stretch of grass that was adjacent to his house. The grassy section did not belong to him, but he took care of it since the town ignored it.

He got tired of neighbors treating it like a dog park, walking their dogs there and not cleaning up afterward. Sucks that it was the dogs who paid the price.

/he was a grumpy man; he was a great man
//RIP grandpa

Similar situation here.  No sidewalks.  Grass goes to the curb, but the easement is 10 feet from the curb (no trees there).  Some people walk their dogs and don't clean up.  Neighbor spread oatmeal on that area, and had warning signs, "grass has been fertilized, no animals!"   Seemed to stop them.


I used to have a neighbor who let their dog loose to crap on my lawn. I invested a few bucks on a bulk bag of cayenne pepper and spread it liberally along my side of the property line. The dog quickly learned to not come into my yard.
2014-07-20 08:59:05 AM
2 votes:
In America, a board with nails = bad. Come outside and shoot the kids = quite possibly OK.
2014-07-20 08:29:50 AM
2 votes:

MisterSocksFox: Reminds me of a story I heard, probably apocryphal, about a guy whose VCR was stolen from his house. When he replaced it, the replacement was stolen. So he bought a broken VCR from a repair shop, put in a few ounces of plastique, shoved the AC leads into the explosive, and let them steal that one. They didn't come back.

/The story does not say where he got the plastique.
//paging Chris Rock...


Apocryphal. Semtex and C-4 need a primary explosive to detonate. Electricity won't do it.

/where's the kaboom?
2014-07-20 07:51:30 AM
2 votes:
There is no part of the U.S. where this isn't settled law.
Booby traps are illegal, and civilly actionable.
Don't make yourselves look stupid by arguing about it.
2014-07-20 12:47:23 AM
2 votes:

feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.


Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.
2014-07-20 07:10:01 PM
1 votes:
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2014-07-20 03:25:14 PM
1 votes:
I know I've posted this one before, but here it comes again.

My ex was one of those 'if I can't have you, no one else can either' types, so when I moved, I made sure not to be followed.  It lasted about 3 or 4 years, but he finally found my new home. Since it was on a dead end, he would drive off the road, into my yard, and trench it up really well.  Gwinnett county cop told me to go buy some azalea bushes, and lots of heavy duty spikes to prop them up with.  And since I was a blonde, no one would question some ditz who didn't have enough sense to put the pointy ends into the dirt.  He came back only one more time.  Several years later we heard that he had to have a tow truck in the middle of the night because he ended up with 3 flat tires, and his new wife was not happy when she saw the credit card bill.
2014-07-20 01:33:21 PM
1 votes:

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: I'm sure Mr. Greenjeans violated the Easement.  Your property ends several feet before the roadway.


It seems there is a misunderstanding about what an easement is. The homeowner owns the land (or trees, or lake or whatever) comprises the easement, he is responsible for care of the easement, mowing the lawn and the like. The easement appurtenant in this instance (if one indeed exists) seems to be a utility easement which would allow utilities to erect or bury poles, wires, cables, pipelines, ect in the space adjoining the roadway. These are generally of minimal concern to a property owner.

If the utility wished to locate a pole in the middle of his yard they would, unless such an easement already existed and that is quite rare, have to negotiate an easement with the property owner and pay for that easement. This easement would transfer with the property when it was sold, obviously the power company can't come out and dig up its pole when the house sell. (Unless of course they were induced to do so by the new property owner who would perhaps pay the cost of moving the pole and wires).

An easement is a right to use some specific thing (usually land) by a non-owner for a specific purpose. It doesn't mean the owner can't grow corn over some sewer pipes or plant apple trees under high tension wires, or absent some other law put spiked boards on his lawn. An easement doesn't prevent the owner for enjoying his property. The property ends where the property ends according to the plat maps and surveys, not where an easement is present.
Easements are complex, however this is a general explanation that should clarify that the guy that owns the house owns the land to the end of the property line, not some three foot DMZ.
2014-07-20 01:32:51 PM
1 votes:
I can understand his frustration.

Prior to the roads being paved in my rural area, a house on a corner lot had people making turns onto the side street gradually eating away the lawn there. The corner angle gradually became a huge crescent of dirt.

Polite signs didn't stop this. Nor did marker sticks painted bright colors to indicate the property line. So, the owner put some stones there, around half the size of a soccer ball and that seemed to work.

Until guys in these enormous pickup trucks pounded them into the ground.

So, the stones were replaced with boulders. Each about the size of a beach ball. Each big enough to do serious damage to any of those enormous pickup trucks trying to plow over them.

That worked.

The 'hidden' nail studded board, however, would not have gone over very well, because here, 5 feet of your yard is actually not yours. It's the right of way for the county road. Placing a serious trap there would get you in trouble because you would be on county property.

Also, because of reasons pointed out by several FARK-ers, the potential for injury to bike riders and kids walking along the edge would be too high.

We had two incidents that kind of illustrated this. One was where a home owner installed an arch over his driveway entrance from a side street, but one edge fell one inch onto the county property from the main road. The county wanted him to take the arch down and naturally, he got all litigious about it.

The county pointed out that if a car ran off the road and hit his arch, because it was one inch on their land, they could be sued and not the home owner. It made no difference that if a car did that, it would wind up going to their front door anyhow.

Lawyers agreed, so a compromise was reached. The home owner had to carry a million dollars insurance to cover the arch in case of such an occurrence and he agreed.

Must have really loved that arch. It lasted over 20 years and when the guy died, a year or so afterwards his son, helping his Mom move backed his truck into the arch, bringing it down.

One a main road, a school was being built so a sidewalk was being installed and the road widened and the county took the right of way. All of it. Which wound up ending right at the back wall of a house. Seems the contractor, years ago, had made a slight miscalculation.

Naturally, lawyers were called in and there was much squabbling to stop the sidewalk from going directly under this guys bedroom window and right up to the sill of his back door. He lost. The county installed the sidewalk.

Naturally, the increasing load of kids walking by over the next few years contained those who just had to pester him by yelling in his window or knocking on his door. So, he bricked up the window and the door.

After 25 years or so, the place is still there -- but apparently empty. Even when he moved out and the place became a rental, tenants had a problem with folks walking right next to the back wall.

So, remember, in most areas, that section of property you own next to a road more than likely is the county or state right of way. They'll tolerate a mailbox on it, even some large, obvious boulders used to stop cutting the corner -- but not anything sharp which can injure a walker.

It's best if you paint those boulders white also.
2014-07-20 01:07:59 PM
1 votes:

fredklein: Gary-L: His method is a hidden means that can cause harm to an innocent trespasser and is therefore illegal.

And their driving across his lawn is....??

I say fight fire with fire. The only ones affected by his 'booby trap' (if having something in plain sight can be considered such) are those who already breaking the law by being on his property without permission. So screw them. (This assumes the 'trap' is on his property, per se.)

As for the "innocent trespassers"- is that like 'innocent murderer' or 'innocent thief'?? If you're trespassing, you are, by definition, guilty.


You have to wonder what types of
People some farkers hang out with and what type of person they themselves are when they make excuses for criminals.


Innocent trespassers indeed.

This is probably a byproduct of telling People they arent responsible for their own actions
2014-07-20 12:53:59 PM
1 votes:

fat boy: feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.

I don't disagree that it is unwise, but if they fined him under an existing ordinance why do they need a new one. The article lacks important details.

In Mexico lots of people top their garden walls with broken glass, pieces of broken bottles mostly. It sure does deter people from climbing their walls. In Mexico it is not illegal, and they have fewer lawyers. Here that would never fly.

Can we try that on our border fence?


If someone got hurt, 0bama would apologize.  And they would probably sue the government - and if it went to the 9th District Court of Appeals, they would probably win.
2014-07-20 12:18:48 PM
1 votes:

TheGreatGazoo: Just get some landscaping rocks about a foot in diameter and put them along the edge. If someone tries to drive over them they will have a bad time.


My old neighbor's solution was nine-foot lengths of old telephone poles.  Six feet buried in the dirt, three feet up top.

People stopped taking the curve quite so wide.

/still stops the odd drunk driver cold
//the important thing is his bushes are safe
///seriously...if you can't keep it between the lines, no biatching about whatever you hit
2014-07-20 11:42:51 AM
1 votes:

doczoidberg: I have all of my widow sills equipped with boards that have nails sticking out of them. They're all covered with doilies.

My hope is that anyone who breaks in here will wind up with some nasty puncture wounds from when they climbed in.

How's that for a booby trap?


Illegal.  You're almost certainly liable for any injury those cause, and depending on the local law enforcement mentality probably likely to get charged criminally.

It's not illegal per se to put in something that can cause injury.  But concealing it is setting a trap, you don't get to do that.  Take the doilies off, make the hazard obvious, and you're probably ok.

Or if you happen to be in the room at the time, in most states you could shoot them as soon as they break the glass.  Breaking into an occupied dwelling tends to generate a presumption that you have a reasonable fear for your life, and therefore a right to use deadly force.
2014-07-20 10:34:13 AM
1 votes:
Our old homestead was out in the middle of the boonies nearest town was ten miles away and all dirt roads. Our problem was the fact that the land we owned people liked to come out and hunt, whether it was the season or not and not ask permission(there was only a couple of folks my parents allowed) The sheriff's office said while we had every right to keep trespassers of the land they couldn't be bothered with putting a patrol out there. So we went out on the land and cut down trees across the atv paths they were using to get in and out. And just to make sure they wouldn't just drive around the trees we dug holes with nail boards and even some spots buried boards with big nails in random places. Took fishing line and strung it between the trees. There was actually one person that we knew of that flattened his tires amd had the balls to say he was going to press charges. He changed his tune when the sheriff reminded him his tires would still be fine if he hadn't been trespassing.(This is southeastern Oklahoma and pretty much the mentality of the populace) but I would say it is frustrating as a landowner to see someone coming out of your woods dragging a deer in the middle of July and when confronted, basically tell you there was nothing you could do(as they were unshouldering their rifle)
2014-07-20 09:48:52 AM
1 votes:

jankyboy: Reminds me of when my grandfather used to toss thumbtacks onto a stretch of grass that was adjacent to his house. The grassy section did not belong to him, but he took care of it since the town ignored it.

He got tired of neighbors treating it like a dog park, walking their dogs there and not cleaning up afterward. Sucks that it was the dogs who paid the price.

/he was a grumpy man; he was a great man
//RIP grandpa


Similar situation here.  No sidewalks.  Grass goes to the curb, but the easement is 10 feet from the curb (no trees there).  Some people walk their dogs and don't clean up.  Neighbor spread oatmeal on that area, and had warning signs, "grass has been fertilized, no animals!"   Seemed to stop them.
2014-07-20 09:39:16 AM
1 votes:

lackadaisicalfreakshow: jankyboy: Reminds me of when my grandfather used to toss thumbtacks onto a stretch of grass that was adjacent to his house. The grassy section did not belong to him, but he took care of it since the town ignored it.

He got tired of neighbors treating it like a dog park, walking their dogs there and not cleaning up afterward. Sucks that it was the dogs who paid the price.

/he was a grumpy man; he was a great man
//RIP grandpa

Your grandpa was not a great man. He was a busybody that tried to kill/wound dogs in what sounds like a city-owned public lot.


It IS delightful when idiot dog owners meet idiot homeowners.
2014-07-20 09:19:11 AM
1 votes:
No matter how justified booby traps are illegal.  Large decorative boulders, however, are not.
2014-07-20 09:16:15 AM
1 votes:

lack of warmth: So all he needs is a tire damage warning sign and he's good to go. Works for me, because then they can't say they weren't warned.


Yeah, but the trick is to put the sign up first, and leave it up for a few months without putting the trap in. After the drivers "figure out" that the sign is "meaningless" and go back to doing what they were doing with impunity, only THEN do you put the boards with nails in. This way you get the asshats.

/like the idea of digging the trench better.
2014-07-20 08:59:15 AM
1 votes:

MutantMotherMouse: My parents had a similar problem with folks curbing their lawn. Dad installed 4-ft iron rods marked w/ red reflective paint along the area. Problem solved.


I like that solution. For good measure, mount reflectors on top of the poles and call them guides for snowplowing (assuming snowy winters there).
2014-07-20 08:43:35 AM
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Triumph: Tearing up someone's lawn with your truck is not a "prank."

I agree, but that doesn't mean the homeowner can endanger others by booby trapping his property.


Cue the puzzled dog.
If people wouldn't use vehicles to vandalize the guy's lawn, they wouldn't even know or care about the nails.  The guys driving into other people's yard uninvited are the ones endangering people.
2014-07-20 08:38:52 AM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.

I don't disagree that it is unwise, but if they fined him under an existing ordinance why do they need a new one. The article lacks important details.

In Mexico lots of people top their garden walls with broken glass, pieces of broken bottles mostly. It sure does deter people from climbing their walls. In Mexico it is not illegal, and they have fewer lawyers. Here that would never fly.


It has nothing to do with the lawyers in the United States.  It is part of the common law that a private property owner has a Duty of Care when it comes to trespassers.  A property owner has to take reasonable precautions to secure his real property and must warn trespassers of hazards unless those hazards are not open, obvious, and there is no way the property owner could have known about them.  This is why bobby traps and other means of intentionally and passively inflicting bodily harm to a trespasser are illegal.
2014-07-20 08:33:03 AM
1 votes:

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: I'm sure Mr. Greenjeans violated the Easement.  Your property ends several feet before the roadway.


Know how I know you don't understand how easements work?

Access rights don't equal ownership. You still own it and are responsible for maintaining it. I'm sure the city of Pevely would have no problem coming out and repairing/re-sodding the damage at their expense every time, right?

Go ahead and call your city and tell them you want them to maintain the lawn on the easement, see how well that works out.
2014-07-20 08:07:25 AM
1 votes:
Just get some landscaping rocks about a foot in diameter and put them along the edge. If someone tries to drive over them they will have a bad time.
2014-07-20 08:02:49 AM
1 votes:
Technically, most property lines don't meet the road. There's usually an easement. The municipality would have some rights in terms of what one can do with it.

If he put some decorative armor stones on the problem area, people wouldn't cut the curve so short. I doubt it's "pranksters".
2014-07-20 07:56:38 AM
1 votes:

MBrady: Maybe the homeowner can get a few of those Russian missiles that are normally used to shoot down commerical airliners.


You're talking about surface-to-air missiles, likely won't work here, but the Dukes of Hazzard should be getting a little nervous.

/My eleven yro self just had a fun image, thinking of the general lee getting shot out of the sky.
2014-07-20 07:53:11 AM
1 votes:

Nabb1: feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.

I don't disagree that it is unwise, but if they fined him under an existing ordinance why do they need a new one. The article lacks important details.

In Mexico lots of people top their garden walls with broken glass, pieces of broken bottles mostly. It sure does deter people from climbing their walls. In Mexico it is not illegal, and they have fewer lawyers. Here that would never fly.

Any deterrent that is open and apparent or has sufficient warnings, within reason ("Warning: Land Mines" probably still won't cut it), is going to be okay in the US. I see broken glass on tops of privacy walls all over the French Quarter. Hidden traps and hazards placed by the homeowner that cause unreasonable injuries will probably make the homeowner liable.


So all he needs is a tire damage warning sign and he's good to go.  Works for me, because then they can't say they weren't warned.
2014-07-20 07:52:06 AM
1 votes:
Maybe the homeowner can get a few of those Russian missiles that are normally used to shoot down commerical airliners.
2014-07-20 07:42:44 AM
1 votes:
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2014-07-20 07:42:12 AM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: feckingmorons: Journalism is in the toilet.

How was he fined if the city doesn't have the proper ordinance yet. Did that not occur to anyone when they were making this 'news' story.

Idiots.

Perhaps they fined him under an existing city ordinance.

At any rate I do understand this man's frustration, but he was opening himself for a lawsuit. What if someone minding their own business was walking by & stumbled and fell onto the concealed board and was badly injured? What if a child riding by on his bike hit a rock and was thrown from his bike onto the board? I'm sure he wouldn't want either of those scenarios to happen, but they easily could.

I don't disagree that it is unwise, but if they fined him under an existing ordinance why do they need a new one. The article lacks important details.

In Mexico lots of people top their garden walls with broken glass, pieces of broken bottles mostly. It sure does deter people from climbing their walls. In Mexico it is not illegal, and they have fewer lawyers. Here that would never fly.


Any deterrent that is open and apparent or has sufficient warnings, within reason ("Warning: Land Mines" probably still won't cut it), is going to be okay in the US. I see broken glass on tops of privacy walls all over the French Quarter. Hidden traps and hazards placed by the homeowner that cause unreasonable injuries will probably make the homeowner liable.
2014-07-20 02:08:13 AM
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Triumph: Tearing up someone's lawn with your truck is not a "prank."

I agree, but that doesn't mean the homeowner can endanger others by booby trapping his property.


I never said he could. But I will say this - it's akin to an electric fence that isn't properly marked.
2014-07-20 02:05:23 AM
1 votes:
I used to rent a house on a dead end dirt road in a part of Arizona that was at the time having a lot of border issues. At that time I'd see dozens of illegal immigrants every day, I'd see vans and trucks come to an abrupt stop on the highway, 20 people would pile in, and they'd drive off like nothing ever happened, blink and you'd miss it. It was normal, and in my heart I wished them a safe journey. It was just what was going on at the time (thanks Bush?)

Anyway, a couple times a van or truck packed with people or bundles of weed would be chased down our road by Border Patrol and deputies. And they wouldn't stop, they'd just tear straight through the fence at the end, into my neighbor's pasture and kept going until they crashed or found pavement again. It freed his horses and cattle every time. So he put up dead end signs in English and Spanish, probably two dozen reflectors. And then he built a huge dirt berm just on his side of the fence and set in concrete a bunch of angled chunks of railroad track to catch any vehicle unfortunate enough to take the ramp. I don't know if he ever impaled anyone, I moved shortly after. He wasn't a pleasant man.
 
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