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(Canada.com)   Obvious: Fighting breaks out over Gaza. WTFark: In Calgary?   (o.canada.com) divider line 69
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2014-07-19 06:27:50 PM  
It's breaking out everywhere.  Of course the first-waves of Gaza violence were in Paris and Milan but it takes a couple days before the cowtowns catch up on the latest in Gaza violence.

I suppose Des Plaines should get around to their own "Aw shucks" form of Gaza violence in a couple of weeks.

And given the patterns of history, two decades from now retro-Gaza chic should hit again the runways.
 
2014-07-19 07:12:33 PM  
I know I wouldn't wave an Israeli flag at a large crowd of grieving Palestinians.  Not only is it not classy, but you're just begging to get your ass kicked.
 
2014-07-19 07:24:59 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I know I wouldn't wave an Israeli flag at a large crowd of grieving Palestinians.  Not only is it not classy, but you're just begging to get your ass kicked.


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2014-07-19 07:39:24 PM  
Came here looking for Selena Gomez reference, leaving disappointed.
 
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2014-07-19 07:41:55 PM  
Oh Canada. Oh dear.
 
2014-07-19 07:43:27 PM  
Good thing Inspector Cliff O'Brian was there to help out, all I can picture is a green outfit and some dude thanking his lucky charms.
 
2014-07-19 07:46:52 PM  
Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.
 
2014-07-19 07:51:34 PM  

squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.


It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.
 
2014-07-19 07:56:29 PM  
Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"


This.
 
2014-07-19 08:00:40 PM  

Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.


Sweet, I can finally crank NWA and roll in my 5 litre the way I've always wanted to.

Don't know which Calgary you mean bud and I wasn't in Compton in 89 but I think your perspective may be a bit misguided.

I'm the first to point out the deficiencies of my city and off the bat I'd say it's way too white to make that metaphor (and I mean that our city doesn't have enough ethnicity, we could use more culture).

I've also been drinking mega so I could be embarrassing myself by responding to this.
 
2014-07-19 08:08:01 PM  
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

When you walk through a group of civilized people, you expect them to behave civilized.  When you walk through a group of Hamas, you expect them to behave like Hamas.
 
2014-07-19 08:14:40 PM  

SkinnyHead: "What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

When you walk through a group of civilized people, you expect them to behave civilized.  When you walk through a group of Hamas, you expect them to behave like Hamas.


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2014-07-19 08:14:48 PM  

Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.


Can't we all just get along, eh?
 
2014-07-19 08:26:39 PM  
I didn't realize the Israelis and Palestinians had hockey teams
 
2014-07-19 08:28:01 PM  

gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.


This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.
 
2014-07-19 08:40:01 PM  

yousaywut: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.

This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.


Keep in mind that this was a "Palestinian rally" that had been planned in advance.
Violent clashes broke out downtown Calgary during a Palestinian rally...

Israeli supporters had to go out of their way to arrive at this location and there where no issues or violence until the Israeli supporters arrived.
 
2014-07-19 08:48:31 PM  
"Well, what were you expecting, walking outside in a dress like that?"
 
2014-07-19 08:48:49 PM  
It seems beyond ridiculous that one side is entitled to "free speech" and the other, simply holding a flag is deemed worthy of a violent attack.

There is an entitlement to expect others to tolerate obvious hatred and bigotry towards themselves.  In a free country like Canada Jews should have every expectation that they too can stand in solidarity with Israel.
 
2014-07-19 08:53:01 PM  

nyseattitude: yousaywut: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.

This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.

Keep in mind that this was a "Palestinian rally" that had been planned in advance.
Violent clashes broke out downtown Calgary during a Palestinian rally...

Israeli supporters had to go out of their way to arrive at this location and there where no issues or violence until the Israeli supporters arrived.


It wouldn't really matter if it was a KKK rally and a couple of Black Panthers went out of their way to attend a counter protest(or the other way around). My statement had nothing to do with what the protesters did but with the response of the police officer. Just because you disagree with one side or the other does not in any way validate a police officer saying yep you deserved it for being there. The fact that even one person agreed with the sentiment is bad the fact that you are actually attempting to defend this is actually worse.

 Unless you believe the police shouldn't prevent people from being injured based on whether they are in agreement with the sentiment being expressed in which case I repeat "This is a sad commentary on you as a person"
 
2014-07-19 08:54:44 PM  
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often
 
2014-07-19 08:54:49 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I know I wouldn't wave an Israeli flag at a large crowd of grieving Palestinians.  Not only is it not classy, but you're just begging to get your ass kicked.


Absolutely. Because they're also hot-headed irrational Semites.

By the way, we know from history that the Arab conquest that became the world of Islam was originally by armies of male warriors who in many cases took wives from the conquered nations, and also that many of the conquered people converted to Islam.

We also know that according to orthodox Halakha you're Jewish if your mother was Jewish, especially if hers was, etc. etc. If you trace your maternal line back to a Jew you're a Jew. Even if she converted to Judaism: from then on the tribe of Abraham grows.

This means that in the land formerly comprising the British Mandate of Palestine an awful lot of the "Arab" inhabitants, of whatever religion (or none), are halakhically Jewish.

Make of that what you will. I think it's funny that a nation of Ashkenazim with Jewish Y-DNA and largely convert/slave mt-DNA is embroiled in fratricidal war with their cousins who are of bedouin paternal ancestry out of conquered Jewish mothers.

To quote a great philosopher named King, "Can we all get along?"

Oh. By the way. You could hardly call me a dedicated friend of Israel, but this time (at least) Hamas asked for it. None of the other Palestinian fedayeen are coming to their "rescue" either. Israel is not going away, so maybe they should stop poking it with pencils.
 
2014-07-19 08:57:44 PM  

Salmon: Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.

Sweet, I can finally crank NWA and roll in my 5 litre the way I've always wanted to.

Don't know which Calgary you mean bud and I wasn't in Compton in 89 but I think your perspective may be a bit misguided.

I'm the first to point out the deficiencies of my city and off the bat I'd say it's way too white to make that metaphor (and I mean that our city doesn't have enough ethnicity, we could use more culture).

I've also been drinking mega so I could be embarrassing myself by responding to this.


Is Mega like Moxie or something? Some type of regional beverage? Eh?
 
2014-07-19 08:59:32 PM  

gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.



When you dress like a slut you can expect to be raped. See how stupid this sounds? Police should protect everyone, even those wearing Israeli flags...
 
2014-07-19 08:59:36 PM  
My first mainpage greenlight!
 
2014-07-19 09:09:25 PM  

Truther: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.


When you dress like a slut you can expect to be raped. See how stupid this sounds? Police should protect everyone, even those wearing Israeli flags...


Pretty poor analogy, old chap. 1/10.
 
2014-07-19 09:09:27 PM  

Rob3Fan: My first mainpage greenlight!


You poor kid.
 
2014-07-19 09:11:57 PM  
"Look at the way he was dressed. He deserved to get his ass beat."

This is an amoral argument. We have freedom of expression and laws against violence.

"Look at the way he was acting and what he was saying. He even dressed offensively and refused to leave when asked politely three seperate times. He deserved to get his ass beat."

I'm of the mind violent crimes, much like sex crimes, are not crimes when two or more consenting adults participate voluntarily.

If someone really, really, really tries to pick a fight and others oblige that's not analogous to rape. That's more like going to the club and picking up a willing partner then heading out the parking lot for a consentual quickie. In both cases, you'll probably start peeing blood the next day, too. It's a solid metaphor.

Now the question is did this guy behave himself before being attacked or did he pick the fight? The person(s) who threw the first punch are responsible and should feel the full brunt of Canadian Law.
 
2014-07-19 09:12:09 PM  

Salmon: Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.

Sweet, I can finally crank NWA and roll in my 5 litre the way I've always wanted to.

Don't know which Calgary you mean bud and I wasn't in Compton in 89 but I think your perspective may be a bit misguided.

I'm the first to point out the deficiencies of my city and off the bat I'd say it's way too white to make that metaphor (and I mean that our city doesn't have enough ethnicity, we could use more culture).

I've also been drinking mega so I could be embarrassing myself by responding to this.


I think our city has some good culture, but it either is isolated into small enclaves where it doesn't get shared out, or it's not spotlighted enough so others can seek it out more easily.

As for this, it's one side demonstrating, and the other side showing up confront them.  And amazingly, people who are passionate about something tend to not like being confronted about it, especially in groups.
 
2014-07-19 09:31:43 PM  
That one guy looks like he got his head stuck in a golf ball dimpler.
 
2014-07-19 09:32:15 PM  

yousaywut: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.

This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.


Typical F'ing Israeli Baby Killing Coward. Aggressively provoke a fight then blame the victim. Nobody buys your hasbara lies anymore. Stuff em' where the sun don't shine.
 
2014-07-19 09:32:56 PM  
Sounds as if elements on both sides acted like jerks.  Kind of like what is going on over there, too.
 
2014-07-19 09:41:22 PM  
Were the sides approximately the same size?
 
2014-07-19 09:43:43 PM  
It does seem that in certain cultures, violence is not the last resort, but the first and only resort.
 
2014-07-19 09:51:07 PM  

joshik72: "Well, what were you expecting, walking outside in a dress like that?"


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2014-07-19 09:55:41 PM  

Salmon: Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.

Sweet, I can finally crank NWA and roll in my 5 litre the way I've always wanted to.

Don't know which Calgary you mean bud and I wasn't in Compton in 89 but I think your perspective may be a bit misguided.

I'm the first to point out the deficiencies of my city and off the bat I'd say it's way too white to make that metaphor (and I mean that our city doesn't have enough ethnicity, we could use more culture).

I've also been drinking mega so I could be embarrassing myself by responding to this.


You think calgary is bad now? 10 years ago you couldn't walk a block without atleast a couple people trying to buy crack off you or sell it to you. Something like 20% of the population was high on coke. It was basically an open market for drugs and hookers. Edmonton is and was worse.

Aside from that hell hole in downtown Vancouver most of Canada is pretty good at fixing places before they go to total shiat.
 
2014-07-19 10:12:47 PM  

Nasty Celt: yousaywut: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.

This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.

Typical F'ing Israeli Baby Killing Coward. Aggressively provoke a fight then blame the victim. Nobody buys your hasbara lies anymore. Stuff em' where the sun don't shine.


Well that seems like an appropriate response to my comment in regards to the police officers statement. I'll take this to mean you think it would be perfectly rational to react to your verbal retort by shooting you in the face right? Since obviously you are aggressively provoking a fight so I can blame you for whatever happens next right?

Of course this would indicate you have rationally thought out what was written and somehow managed to contrive a meaning that is not actually in the realm of reality. There may be something broken within your brain. I suggest you get it checked out before posting more retarded responses to what you believe others have said.
 
2014-07-19 10:42:30 PM  

yousaywut: nyseattitude: yousaywut: gsxec: Jake Birrell, who wore an Israeli flag around his neck, said he was attacked during the second clash. He confronted an officer asking why police hadn't intervened.
"When you're wearing that, what do you expect is going to happen here?" the officer asked him.
"What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

This.

This is a sad commentary on the attitude of both the police and you. It is also the main explanation of the existence of Israel.  If wearing a flag is enough reason to provoke a violent response then what does actually being Jewish create?

 Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping? The police officers response should have been a cause for shame instead of a source for agreement.

Keep in mind that this was a "Palestinian rally" that had been planned in advance.
Violent clashes broke out downtown Calgary during a Palestinian rally...

Israeli supporters had to go out of their way to arrive at this location and there where no issues or violence until the Israeli supporters arrived.

It wouldn't really matter if it was a KKK rally and a couple of Black Panthers went out of their way to attend a counter protest(or the other way around). My statement had nothing to do with what the protesters did but with the response of the police officer. Just because you disagree with one side or the other does not in any way validate a police officer saying yep you deserved it for being there. The fact that even one person agreed with the sentiment is bad the fact that you are actually attempting to defend this is actually worse.

 Unless you believe the police shouldn't prevent people from being injured based on whether they are in agreement with the sentiment being expressed in which case I repeat "This is a sad commentary on you as a person"


I wasn't defending his statement.
 
2014-07-19 10:52:31 PM  
Considering the mayor's campaign was financed by his brother-in-law, a well-known Hezbollah financial backer for decades, it wouldn't surprise me if the cops were ordered not to protect any Israel supporters who showed up. Nenshi is a bigot who causes trouble for Christian and Jewish groups to pander to the Muslim community.
 
2014-07-19 10:55:53 PM  
LOL. I got to watch this first hand as entertainment for the day. It sure beat the hell out of the usual watching natives fight each other in front of the court rooms. Surprised the story made it on Fark.
 
2014-07-19 10:58:23 PM  

yousaywut: Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping?


Flags aren't clothing. Anyone wearing one who isn't destitute and unable to acquire any other clothing deserves a beatdown. Remember: only you can help prevent white trash.
 
2014-07-19 10:59:24 PM  
Aislan Ali, a Palestinian supporter who had observed both clashes, said the pro-Israel side had provoked the violence, saying they shouldn't have showed up during the demonstration.

Perfect metaphor for the middle-east.  The very existence of Israel is considered a provocation which can only be dealt with using violence.

I hate that these people bring their mentality to my country. I hate that they teach it to their children. Why do they not want peace ? or rather they do want peace: the peace that they believe will come after they have destroyed Israel and the last of their children has avenged the last of their ancestors.
 
2014-07-19 11:04:32 PM  
So, I know that this isn't the correct thing to say or think, but perhaps someone can explain to me what the most reasonable thing to make of all this is...because I'm having a really hard time wondering why it isn't proper or right to think to myself: "Why don't you just go back there, if it's so damn important to you? Don't bring your farking baggage here. We've got enough farking problems of our own without you having to dump your baggage all over our metaphorical table."

I know you might think me bigoted and closed-minded. But I'm seeking knowlege here, I really don't understand why I'm almost expected to a) pick a side, b) care passionately about it...

I mean seriously, I really cannot be bothered to give a good goddamn about what language people in a farking useless desert around the world are currently spitting at eachother...so, please. enlighten me. Why should i have to...?
 
2014-07-19 11:09:29 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: yousaywut: Seriously how far into the depths of human depravity does one need to reach to agree that wearing a flag deserves an arse whooping?

Flags aren't clothing. Anyone wearing one who isn't destitute and unable to acquire any other clothing deserves a beatdown. Remember: only you can help prevent white trash.


You take your funny somewhere else:) also you be owing unto me one keyboard and some monitor cleaner

/seriously I LOL'd good point
 
2014-07-19 11:11:03 PM  
Another success story for the anti-Zionist propaganda machine.

/"When people say Zionists, what they really mean is 'Jews.'" - Martin Luther King Jr.
 
2014-07-19 11:12:36 PM  

Deadguy2322: Considering the mayor's campaign was financed by his brother-in-law, a well-known Hezbollah financial backer for decades, it wouldn't surprise me if the cops were ordered not to protect any Israel supporters who showed up. Nenshi is a bigot who causes trouble for Christian and Jewish groups to pander to the Muslim community.


What, his hideous sister is actually married? fark that'd turn me into a terrorist if I had to see that cow's face every night.
 
2014-07-19 11:18:19 PM  
This is what I can't stand about people from the middle east, arabs or israelis. They WON'T leave their shiate at HOME.
 
2014-07-20 12:05:50 AM  
I'm taking notes on all the anti-semites in this thread (myself included) who dare to question the nobility of the perfect nation of Israel and their supporters.

Why shouldn't they crash a gathering of their mortal enemies? Of course if it was the other way around it would be different, for understandable reasons.
 
2014-07-20 12:27:50 AM  

nyseattitude: SkinnyHead: "What do you expect is going to happen when you walk through this group?"

When you walk through a group of civilized people, you expect them to behave civilized.  When you walk through a group of Hamas, you expect them to behave like Hamas.

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So nyseattitude, anyone who disagrees with you is a troll?
 
2014-07-20 12:59:28 AM  
There was a demonstration in Wellington, NZ a few days ago. Why? Yeah cool you want the violence to end but.... What's the department store you're protesting outside going to do about it? Go lobby someone who can actually help instead of preaching to the flock.
 
2014-07-20 01:02:20 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Salmon: Ooba Tooba: squirrelninja: Im surprised after the fight both sides didnt hug it out and say a communal appology to each other and all of canada. They are canadians dontcha know.

It's not like that anymore. 2014 Calgary = 1989 South Central L.A.

Sweet, I can finally crank NWA and roll in my 5 litre the way I've always wanted to.

Don't know which Calgary you mean bud and I wasn't in Compton in 89 but I think your perspective may be a bit misguided.

I'm the first to point out the deficiencies of my city and off the bat I'd say it's way too white to make that metaphor (and I mean that our city doesn't have enough ethnicity, we could use more culture).

I've also been drinking mega so I could be embarrassing myself by responding to this.

You think calgary is bad now? 10 years ago you couldn't walk a block without atleast a couple people trying to buy crack off you or sell it to you. Something like 20% of the population was high on coke. It was basically an open market for drugs and hookers. Edmonton is and was worse.

Aside from that hell hole in downtown Vancouver most of Canada is pretty good at fixing places before they go to total shiat.


Calgary isn't anymore violent than usual. Like all of Canada, most of the recent murders fall into the Creepy Canada territory and that's about it. Street crime is lower than ever and dropping.

This is the first "riot" in Calgary since the Winnipeg General Strike in 1919, if it even was a riot.

Even West Hastings in Vancouver is pretty dull, everybody. We're a pretty relaxed nation.

Now in Toronto, they're shooting people like crazy...;)
 
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